I can't pick the winner here so went for the draw. If it was the other way around I would have backed Brighton but I think they'll cancel each other out ultimately.

The big game to watch this weekend is obviously Liverpool V City, but is anyone backing an upset in the Man U v Newcastle game? Newcastle bagged 4 and 5 goals in the last two games and maybe Manchester will underestimate them. I'll wait for the line-ups before I lock my picks in but there could be a lot of goals in both these games.

Yeah, well if that's actually the case then you have to show him who's boss, but he probably shouldn't even be on the bench and send him to the stands instead, especially if you don't have any intent to play him. It's a shame because everyone wants to see him play. You would think Ronnie knows the score by now though, but I'm sure we don't know the whole details and the excuses Hag was giving was just the 'political' answer. I wonder where he's going to go? Probably not many options for him right now and if he gets a rep for being stubborn or crying when he doesn't get his own way a lot of teams probably won't erven bother with him.

I read recently that if both Portugal and Argentina finish first in their World Cup groups then they could both meet in the final. Now that's something I'd love to see. Would definitely help settle the GOAT debate.


Definitely a catch-22 for Man U as they can't afford to be benching him really. Hopefully he just learns now that he's not above being benched.

I agree. We don't know the whole situation so it's hard to say what is right and wrong, but it's often that ego and arrogance that drives a lot of top level athletes and even musicians to get to that elite level in the first place. If you didn't have so much self-belief you probably wouldn't get very far. There's a line from Drake that says  I am the greatest and I said that even before I knew I was but I think he was quoting Muhammed Ali. There's of lots of stuff from Kanye West before he was famous that's ridiculously egotistical but it's their own self-belief and arrogance that is their fuel to get where they want to be. Obviously Ronaldo has a massive ego and probably throws a tantrum when he doesn't get his own way and that's hard to handle for a manager. You need to learn to babysit them because you can't just let them walk all over you or backseat manage, but you also can't give into their every whim. If a player is disrespecting the team or manager and not playing by the rules you have to bench them sometimes to show them who's boss.


I don't think it would have come down to not letting him leave but time just run out on getting a deal done. Probably both the club and Ronaldo wanted him to go but their options were limited. Ronaldo would only go to a top tier club that is in the CL and there's not many clubs that can even afford him, and even the super-big clubs have probably already blown their budget on other players so can't buy him even if they wanted to. Also, Ronaldo isn't going to leave for less money and United aren't going to let him go at a bargain price so it's a catch-22. I'm sure they were trying to get rid of him right up to transfer deadline day and by the looks of it with Ronaldo not turning up for pre-season stuff he probably thought he was likely to go as well but deals probably just fell through for whatever reason. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't leave in the next window, though maybe there's still not many options as to who can afford him.  

This is just classic management BS when they don't actually want to give the real reason. Ronnie sat on the bench is already pretty disrespectful to him and the fans not to mention pissing away millions for him to warm the bench. Looking at his face during the match it looked like he wanted to come on and I'm sure he's been itching to do so. Bringing him on for the last 5-10 minutes might have been disrespectful but they should have just done it at half time. You make changes then to try turn the game round. Given that Man U actually managed to get 3 in the end it could have been a different story if he was brought on. Regardless, he should have started. I'm sure it's not down to fitness but attitudes or egos.

Does anyone know the reason why Man U are not starting or even playing Ronaldo? Is it some sort of power play cos Ronnie has been a dram queen or was trying to the run the squad himself, or is it just because of the transfer drama and him obviously not wanting to be there? Either way, not bringing him on at half time when you're 4-0 down is silly. If anyone could have turned that game around it was him.


Leicester have had bad results this season but they're not a bad team. Definitely not as bad as Forest hence why I got the home win correct on that one. Don't really know what's happened to them though to be honest. I'm sure they'll turn their form around now.

A nobody. It's obviously just an easy tune up fight to keep the ring rust off before the Usyk fight next year. Nobody wants to see it though but it's probably who Tyson will fight if this AJ fight doesn't get sorted. According to Charr he signed a three fight deal to fight under Queensbury so Warren will probably just use him as a journeyman for his fighters.


I think it is a tougher challenge on paper, but sometimes fighting someone the same size has it's advantages. Usyk was much smaller and very agile, so harder to hit. Tyson and AJ are almost identical in stats, though Fury does have very small advantages is size and reach etc, but I think AJ will be able to hit him easier than Usyk. There's bad blood between Fury and AJ and has been for a long time, and Fury has only been adding fuel to the fire recently with the insults so that could maybe spur AJ on. AJ will also know that this is his chance to redeem himself so hopefully he doesn't waste the opportunity and fights like his life is on the line. AJ doesn't even need to win the fight as most people are expecting him to lose; all he needs to do is give a great performance and that will be enough for most. If it's a close fight they'll probably immediately call for the rematch as well, especially if it makes a fuck tonne of money, which it probably will. If this fight happens then they already have the deal for the rematch in there with a 50/50 split so it will be very easy to get sorted.

I'm split myself as I was with the Woodley fight. It's probably going to be Jake's toughest challenge yet, though I'd put it in the same category as Woodley. Woodley is nearly ten years younger than Silva so he has the age advantage, but Silva was a much better MMA fighter and is now doing fairly decently in boxing himself so there's pros and cons to bother fighters in terms of matchups. If I had to put money on it maybe it goes the distance and Jake on points. I kinda want Jake to win though just to see how far he can actually take this, and ultimately I really wanna see him fight someone like McGregor. The build up to that fight would be epic with all the trash-talking and I think Jake could give Connor a good game in that respect.

I honestly don't know weather you people are just naïve, signature shitposting or don't know anything about boxing. Show me the evidence of all this "holding back". These boxing fights are the same as any other. Nobody wants to lose. Everybody wants to win. They're all done for the money but there's absolutely no evidence to suggest the fights are fixed or the outcome is 'decided'.

Are you trying to tell me all the people Jake has knocked out are just acting? Because if so, give them their Oscars:





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They all go down from great punches. No acting or anything suspicious, they just got shook from a good punch and nobody can stop their brains from rattling around in their skulls.

Is it really not possible that Jake might actually just be a pretty good boxer? He's surprised me for sure but he's deserved the wins and I've seen nothing that would suggest any fighter is holding back or not trying to hurt him. Put him in the ring with another Pro boxer coming up like Tommy Fury and I think we'll see how similarly matched they are. That's one reason why I really want that fight to happen and hopefully it will shut up a lot of this nonsense. If Jake can get passed Silva and someone like Fury and do a good job there's no reason why we couldn't see him against a decent current pro boxer but he needs to build himself up to that.


Noted. Next time I'll do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lS_eVNthFw

Looks like the fight is still possibly on. According to Tyson himself Dazn, BT Sports and ESPN have all agreed a broadcasting deal and in my opinion that was going to be the biggest stumbling block as all parties will want their fare share of the pie which was probably a difficult thing to do. Not sure what is holding the contract back from being signed now though. Fury seems to have capitulated on a lot according to the video and if he's to be believed. Hearn as been MIA all week from interviews so hopefully he gives an update soon.

Personally, I think there's a few things theymos should do rather than nothing.

1) Offer or auction some long term deals to companies that are already trusted and have a history of advertising here. Many of these gambling companies are sponsoring streamers millions a month so I'm sure they'd put up a fairly large amount for a years ad subscription or something.

2) Hire someone trusted to vet all new adverts.

3 Implement Silver/Gold/Platinum/Lamborghini Memberships like the current Copper one that come with the benefits of a Full/Senior/Hero/Legendary etc, and maybe even some additional perks with a higher "premium" rank like the ability to change name, access to a exclusive sub board and so on.

Being able to purchase these memberships have numerous benefits:

Completely passive income for the forum
Essentially stops account sales and farming
Will severely dent people from fishing/begging for merit


Whilst the forum does have a lot of money held in reserves it will only dwindle over time, and there's always the risk of bitcoin having a massive crash. We've already seen it lose well over half its value since the all time high. I'm sure we will see much more volatility over the next ten years with even worse crashes along the way.

Theymos would very likely have to comply with a court order for this. The mods would be the least of his worries though as Craig would likely just go after the forum as a whole.


I would slightly disagree. Most people lost respect when Gavin obviously got fooled, but It matters because Craig is using it as one of the pieces of evidence of him being satoshi and therefore he signed it then so he doesn't need to now. If Gavin came out and said "in retrospect it was very likely that I was duped" that would help a lot, though obviously Craig will disregard it and excuse it away like he always does.


Giving him that info was optional and not all mods did.

Again, then you should apply this same logic to any fight as this fight has as much chance of being fixed as any other. And all fights are for the money. When a fighter says he doesn't care about the money they're lying. How many fighters fight for free or donate all their money to charity? Zero. It's a business and a good one at that if you make it to the top and become one of the most popular fighters. And how do they do that? By grabbing headlines and people like Jake Paul are masters of it. It would be obvious if the fights were fixed or staged in anyway. There would be no question about it. This isn't the WWE. Most 'bad blood' in fights is just done to sell the fights anyway. It's just theatre to generate hype and add a little spice to the match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-oJTZ1b5Q

Silva is really not going to want to get knocked out because it will be embarrassing and taint his legacy, but why would he take that risk? Because the millions of dollars he's going to get paid will be worth it. He will be getting paid more for this fight alone than what he would have probably got in half of his UFC career.


They're never going to work together. Dana hates Jake and has even banned questions about him at the UFC pressers. Dana probably needs to keep fighter pay down as much as possible so it doesn't effect his bottom-line. If all fighters suddenly started wanting the big bucks UFC wouldn't be anywhere near as profitable as it now. They obviously need to find some middle ground though because a lot of the smaller fighters get hardly anything and even big fighters like Ngannou aren't getting paid what they deserve.



Well it all comes down to the PPV numbers, ticket sales and ad revenue from sponsors etc. As long as that money is there then fight will happen and generate at lot of money for the big ones, but there will be a lot of flops happening. Eddie Hearn alluded to the recent Canelo fight not doing as great as they wanted it to, but they PPV numbers are out there as are the purses for each fighter and doing the math they probably struggled to break even, though it's hard to calculate truly because Dazn had the worldwide rights for the fight but they charged different amounts for it in different countries.




https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/news/boxing/how-much-is-canelo-vs-golovkin-3-pay-per-view-cost-which-countries-get-it-included-in-their-subscription/18eezv82nr2o81qt0g9ktjdcbv

But the fight was shown for free in other markets like Spain and Germany which is how I watched it. Nearly $100 for a fight is ridiculous though, especially for not really a huge one like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQd_rdiQ5Ko

"EDDIE HEARN ADMITS, FURY VS JOSHUA BROADCASTING RIGHTS AN ISSUE; out of our hands"

As expected, it looks like the TV rights are going to be the ultimate hurdle. This is obviously the Tyson Fury show but dazn are going to want their fair share since they've paid for it with the AJ exclusive but I can't see them getting what they want. I'm sure they're looking at a 50/50 or 60/40 split but that isn't going to happen if Fury's camp is in charge.


I don't know where people get this logic from that a fighter is done after a couple of losses. AJ isn't expected to beat Fury either so as long as he puts in a good performance people will give him props. There's plenty of options for AJ after this fight. Him against Wilder would be huge, but I don't think AJ beats Wilder. Aj can do the Ruiz trilogy, or maybe even Usyk again for another trilogy at some point. Then of course Matchroom has a lot of fighters they could throw at him for easy fights - Chisora, Whyte again etc. Dazn have got exclusive rights for his fights so they're going to want to start seeing their moneys worth from him so I'd expect to see him fighting quite often soon enough. If this Fury fight doesn't get made I'm sure we will see him fighting someone on Matchroom's roster before the end of the year.

It's only a possibility in the same way it is in any other boxing match or sport. Matches being 'fixed' are very rare, but what isn't rare is armchair critics who think everything is fixed once something doesn't go their way or the way they expected. How exactly do you stage such a thing without it being obvious? They're not really punching each other in the face, or maybe the punches they throw are CGId in in real time? It's usually pretty obvious if someone gets KOd with a very light touch and if that happens then you might have a case for their being something dodgy going on, but I've seen none of that in Jake's fights or any other youtuber boxing match. Both parties really want to win and nobody wants to lose because it's embarrassing, and even more so when you get KOd by a youtuber. Both Woodley and Askrem have said essentially the same thing and Woodley at least is humble enough to give Jake credit for a great KO.

Also, there is no such thing as a no knock-out clause. That's just something idiots on the internet make up once someone doesn't get a KO. How the hell can you fight someone and bar a KO. The only really valid criticism you could have of Jake right now is he's cherry picking his opponents to stack the odds in his favour by only fighting ex-MMA fighters and retired ones at that, but still, people like Woodley and Silva are no pushovers even at their ages. Personally I'm not sure we will see a knock out but could see it going the distance.

It's the right way to go about it. No point manufacturing drama, especially if you respect your opponent and Silva isn't really one to give it back anyway. He's fairly quiet and reserved really so it would be out of character or very one sided if they were going to go the psychological warfare approach. Trash talking only really works when both are committed. I'd love to see the build up to a fight against Jake V Connor or Andrew Tate or something. The press conferences would be better than the actual fight.


It's not an exhibition match. It's a professional one. Neither parties want to lose and if you think this match is fixed then you might as well be saying the same about all pro fights.

Given that Craig manages to track down and sue anonymous people for a tweet don't you think that would be a terrible idea? You'd be preaching to the choir here anyway.



I don't think he was saying ignore it and it'll go away, just that a sub board probably isn't the right way to go about it. I think we can all agree that ignoring Craig would be a bad idea as Craig is going nowhere. The louder people are calling him out the better because he will manage to convince other people and outlets along the way if people just sit back and leave him to his scam but I don't think there's much we can do here as it's elsewhere where he's doing the damage.


You - or whoever starts the thread(s) - could choose to self-moderate it rather than argue with trolls.



I'd say he looks his age - late 40s early 50s. I'm sure the stress of it all is weighing on him but he doesn't really show it, at least not publicly. I cannot imagine living a life under so many lies but maybe charlatans and fantasists or even sociopaths aren't effected the way normal people would be. He probably has to watch his back everywhere he goes for various reasons. I'm also sure he knows it's only a matter of time before the law catches up to him not to mention how much are his benefactors going to take before they pull the plug? But maybe they're already in too deep and have to see it out until the end if they hope to recoup any money.


He's already widely discredited on everything but that doesn't stop him. I think him being charged or at least arrested will be the best thing that can happen. Him being tied up in a court case where his very freedom is on the line can't be ignored and will probably put the brakes on all his other court cases. If he can still weaponise the courts and convince others along the way then he won't stop until he's behind bars. It doesn't matter if he himself loses in court in his civil cases because he miraculously manages to find a way to spin it into a win regardless and has even stated that if something is not found in his favour he won't accept the verdict anyway so you really can't beat him here.

I don't think an entire sub board would be necessary right now. Like others have said, this info would be best confined to their own relevant thread(s) and sub boards are only created if and once there's demand so that's the place you should start. Still, I don't think we need an entire board and could even be counter productive as I'm sure Craig would find a way to turn it into a win or a point of attack. He usually does.


Yeah, maybe rename it to BSV/Faketoshi scam sub or something.


I tend to look at BSVers as just brainwashed sheep who have fallen for an enigmatic cult leader. It doesn't matter what evidence you show them they will explain it away no matter how ridiculous the reasoning is. You could make a very rational and reasonable argument to a religious person as to why there is no god or that there's no spaceship coming to ascend a cult member off to heaven but people won't listen once they've drunk the coolaid. I'm not sure half of the BSV trolls believe Craig's bullshit anyway but have such a vested financial interest in BSV that they don't care and will promote it because they see this as getting in at ground zero and want to see BSV flip Bitcoin and take them to the moon with it.

As much as I despise Craig - and I hate to say it - I almost admire his tenacity with his long-con as he has quite an ingenious knack for excusing everything away with relative ease regardless of whether we can see through the obvious lies. Most people would have buckled under the enormous weight of having to keep up the ruse of piling bullshit on top of several layers of bullshit, but he's like a Terminator: he just keeps going no matter how many times he gets knocked down. I think prison is the only thing that's going to stop him at this point. Was there any update on why the ATO haven't actually tried to arrest him given the pretty obvious tax fraud? I'm sure he's likely to have committed tax fraud in the UK too with all the losses and hacks he's reported to the police so it wouldn't surprise me if he tried to write that off on his taxes.

Of course age is a factor. You do not move or hit the same at 50 as you do at peak 25-30 or whatever. Everything is effected - stamina, speed, agility, recovery time + many more factors. You just can't keep going for as long as you could when you were in your prime not can you take as much damage. Anderson is no slouch but he's not in his 20s or 30s anymore either so age is a huge factor. If Jake was fighting Anderson at his prime at the same age Jake is now the odds would be greatly against him.


People said the same about Woodley and Jake got one of the best KOs of the year against him. If you tuned into a random boxing match and Jake was fighting on the undercard you wouldn't even question whether he was a boxer. He's certainly got the skills and a lot of respected boxing commentators and pundits say the same thing. The only thing counting against him is he's choosing fighters at the end of their careers but he's just getting started really and I'm sure he's building up to better, more age-appropriate fighters. It's only a matter of time really but baby steps are the best way to go about it right now given he obviously doesn't have the years of fighting amateur fighters have before they go pro. He tried to fight current pros in Rahman Jr and Tommy Fury but they both messed him about.

I think they're almost certainly having it in the UK, or that's the desired plan from both promoters at least right now. It would make sense since it's an all British heavyweight super fight and it's what the fans have wanted for years. I think there'd be quite an uproar if it wasn't as there's going to be a lot of demand for tickets so they'll want to have it in the largest possible venue in the UK. I'm sure they could hold it in Saudi but it looks like they're more interested in the unification fight against Usyk. Hopefully Usyk will fight Wilder or something as that's a fight both of them have recently said they want. I think Wilder would probably beat Usyk though so it looks like we might see them against each other again. The winner or Wilder V Helenius in the mandatory anyway so Fury will probably see him again pretty soon. Personally I'd watch Fury V Wilder 10 times. I thought the third fight was one of the best boxing fights ever personally. It had everything. A real "Rocky" showdown.

He had to act swift. It was a take it or leave it situation with a hasty deadline put in place by Fury and any niggling will have likely cancelled the deal. Hearn even said they tried to get a 60/40 in favour of AJ in the potential rematch but Fury's camp told them to either accept the deal or it's off and AJ just told them to accept all terms so they don't have any excuses as to why the fight didn't happen. It was the right thing to do as 60/40 is a generous offer and he might not ever get the chance to fight Fury again, not to mention he's got an immediate chance to win the belts back which he doesn't deserve right now.  


Couldn't have really done anything about the last time with Wilder winning the arbitration and I think that was the right decision as the pandemic put a spanner in the works. From both Hearn and Warren it looks like all the details have been formally arranged except the TV rights which is probably going to be tricky given AJ's Dazn deal but they should be able to work something out. I doubt Dazn will get US or UK rights so they'll probably just end up with other worldwide markets like they did with the last Usyk fight but maybe Dazn will want more given they've just shelled out a bucket-load of money for exclusive access to AJ.