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261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Shrem on: February 02, 2014, 12:32:44 AM
I don't see Money Laundering on here:
http://internationalextraditionblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/japan.pdf

1. Murder, manslaughter, including causing death through solicitation or assistance
2. Assault made with intent to commit murder
3. Malicious wounding, injury or assault
4. Illegal abortion
5. Abandonment which causes bodily harm or death
6. An offense relating to kidnapping, abduction or unlawful arrest or imprisonment
7. Threat
8. Rape, indecent assault
9. An offense relating to pandering or prostitution
10. An offense relating to obscene material
11. Bigamy
12. Burglary
13. Robbery
14. Larceny
15. Extortion, blackmail
16. Fraud (obtaining property, money, valuable securities, or other things of economic value by false pretenses or by fraudulent means)
17. Embezzlement, breach of trust by a person [*19] who is in a fiduciary relationship
18. An offense relating to unlawfully obtained property
19. An offense relating to damage of property, documents, or facilities
20. An offense against the laws relating to protection of industrial property or copyright
21. Obstruction of business by violence or threat
22. Arson, burning through gross negligence
23. Leading, directing or inciting a riot
24. An offense against the laws relating to protection of public health
25. An offense endangering public safety through explosion, water power or other destructive means
26. Piracy according to the law of nations
27. An offense relating to unlawful seizure or exercise of control of trains, aircraft, vessel or other means of transportation
28. An offense interfering with or endangering the normal operation of trains, aircraft, vessel or other means of transportation
29. An offense against the laws relating to the control of explosive substances, incendiary devices or dangerous or prohibited weapons
30. An offense against the laws relating to the control of narcotic drugs, cannabis, psychotropic drugs, cocaine, or their precursors or derivatives, or other dangerous drugs or [*20] chemicals
31. An offense against the laws relating to the control of poisons or other substances injurious to health
32. An offense relating to forgery or counterfeiting
33. An offense against the laws relating to the control of gambling or lotteries
34. Assault or threat upon public official relating to the execution of his duty
35. An offense relating to false statements
36. An offense relating to perjury
37. An offense relating to escape from confinement of a person detained or serving a sentence for an offense specified in paragraph 1 of Article II of this Treaty
38. An offense relating to obstruction of justice, including harboring criminals and suppressing or destroying evidence
39. Bribery
40. An offense relating to abuse of official authority
41. An offense against the laws relating to the control of public elections or political contributions and expenditures
42. An offense relating to willful evasion of taxes and duties
43. An offense against the laws relating to the control of companies or other corporations
44. An offense against the laws relating to bankruptcy or rehabilitation of a company
45. An offense against the laws relating to prohibition [*21] of private monopoly or unfair business transactions
46. An offense against the laws relating to the control of exportation and importation or international transfer of funds
47. Attempt, conspiracy, assistance, solicitation, preparation for, or participation in, the commission of any of the above-mentioned offenses
262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Shrem on: February 02, 2014, 12:20:50 AM
Karpeles is incarcerated??  What did I miss??

The joke.  Hint:  It had a component of predicting the future.



Ha.  Yes he could be next.  If only he wasn't in Japan.  (What is their extradition policy with the US??)
263  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Shrem on: February 02, 2014, 12:16:16 AM
Karpeles is incarcerated??  What did I miss??
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The way it will play out on: February 02, 2014, 12:14:48 AM
Pay your taxes people.
I'd say don't convert to fiat, don't pay taxes, stay happy!

I totally agreed with you, why pay tax, so the government can use it to fund war, and other bad things.

Just pay your taxes. Yes you also have to pay capital gains when making a purchase.


Paypal collects your National Tax ID and reports earnings to the respective governments.  Won't be long untill coinbase.com and circle.com and others exchangers do the same.  There will be no hiding your virtual currency from the powers that be.  Even if you keep it all in virtual currency, overstock and tiger direct need an address to ship you your goods.  This is the 21st Century, there is no more anonymity.

Yeah bastards reported my eBay sales.

They are even reading your email (she the Shrem/Fiallia indictment).  No more hiding from the man.
Enough of this foolish conformist bullshit.

We can use CoinJoin, CoinSwap, CoinControl.
We can use GPG.
We can use Truecrypt.

If you let them read your email and steal your money, that's just your choice. They cannot force anybody to give up their Bitcoins. They cannot even prove that (careful)somebody has Bitcoins.

Charlie and DPR said things like this until they had them in a federal holding cell.

265  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Free Shrem on: February 01, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
Yea, I know.  I just thought the shirt was funny.
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Free Shrem on: February 01, 2014, 11:47:18 PM


http://teespring.com/freeshrem?utm_source=perfaudience&utm_medium=cpm&utm_campaign=dynamicads
267  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The way it will play out on: February 01, 2014, 11:20:02 PM
so with all these replies what is the purpose and usefulness of crypto currencies? If I go and trade around physical gold and silver for goods and services locally or pay cash for something second hand, that would seem to be a more anonymous way to get away with not having to pay taxes and transact business than having to suddenly pay 35% capital gains tax when I go to purchase something on overstock.com (this is all theoretical, I don't actually have bitcoins and am not paying 800 bucks for one)

If you goal it to remain anonymous and avoid taxes you are much better off to use cash. 

If you would like to quickly and seamlessly transact legally with individuals around the world you would want to use virtual currency.

If you are in an emerging nation and want access to the global economy use virtual currency. 
268  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins do you have (poll)? on: February 01, 2014, 10:53:15 PM
I have 7592.39477210. Proof:

Code:
$ bitcoind getbalance
7592.39477210

Date Registered:   June 03, 2011, 09:11:12 AM

Early Adopter.  Could be. 

Only way to prove it is to post a signed message of a public key associated with those bitcoins.
269  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS] Up to 1BTC on: February 01, 2014, 10:50:36 PM
How do you want paid?
270  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, Inputs.io, Tradefortress (HACK) on: February 01, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
All it would have taken to avoid the TradeFortress case would have been for the Bitcoin Foundation to vet it's membership.  

I think you give the Foundation too much authority and power.  Scamming existed way before the Foundation existed and virtual currency
users will continue to be defrauded by businesses whether or not they are members of the foundation.


Like I've said before, 95% of the fraud problems in the Bitcoin ecosystem could be solved by users simply not trusting money to parties who they cannot identify.

I could not agree more.

The Bitcoin ecosystem needs to develop a system of bonding and robust escrow (a single-party John K. doesn't cut it here.)  Open-ledger distributed crypto-currencies are uniquely capable of supporting such constructs without any involvement from governments at all.  Eventually users will self-train to use such solutions if/when they exist...after suffering much damage along the way.

Agreed.  This is an opportunity for a service to be build on top of the protocol

Distributed crypto-currencies are simply a mechanism to achieve a balance of power in my mind.  

This is the true benefit the protocol holds for the world.  Now if we can get the press to cut through all the FUD and start talking about that.

271  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CoinLenders, Inputs.io, Tradefortress (HACK) on: February 01, 2014, 09:13:24 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad new but this is why we need regulation in the virtual currency space.  

If TF and his various businesses were legitimate and registered:
1.  We would actually know who TF is and where he actually operated and
2. there would be clear and specific legal recourse.

As it stands now no one seems to be certain who he is and even if we did know, like Trendon Shavors, there may be no money left to recover.

With regulated financial services, these businesses are required to hold reserves and/or insurance to prevent the loss of customer funds from fraudulent activity or bad business decision.

As is stands you have no recourse, short of a criminal investigation.

But I guess some of the crypto-anarchists and libertarians would prefer it that way, which is fine but you suffer the consequences.






272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The way it will play out on: February 01, 2014, 08:47:31 PM
Pay your taxes people.
I'd say don't convert to fiat, don't pay taxes, stay happy!

I totally agreed with you, why pay tax, so the government can use it to fund war, and other bad things.

Just pay your taxes. Yes you also have to pay capital gains when making a purchase.


Paypal collects your National Tax ID and reports earnings to the respective governments.  Won't be long untill coinbase.com and circle.com and others exchangers do the same.  There will be no hiding your virtual currency from the powers that be.  Even if you keep it all in virtual currency, overstock and tiger direct need an address to ship you your goods.  This is the 21st Century, there is no more anonymity.

Yeah bastards reported my eBay sales.

They are even reading your email (she the Shrem/Fiallia indictment).  No more hiding from the man.
273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The way it will play out on: February 01, 2014, 08:44:21 PM
Pay your taxes people.
I'd say don't convert to fiat, don't pay taxes, stay happy!

I totally agreed with you, why pay tax, so the government can use it to fund war, and other bad things.

Just pay your taxes. Yes you also have to pay capital gains when making a purchase.


Paypal collects your National Tax ID and reports earnings to the respective governments.  Won't be long untill coinbase.com and circle.com and others exchangers do the same.  There will be no hiding your virtual currency from the powers that be.  Even if you keep it all in virtual currency, overstock and tiger direct need an address to ship you your goods.  This is the 21st Century, there is no more anonymity.
274  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: (Warning) Whats going on with cryptsy.com every one is losing there coins on: February 01, 2014, 08:25:37 PM
I met Big Vern and his partner at the Vegas conference and asked them some tough questions about their business.  While I can only take the answers they chose to give (for obvious security and business privacy reasons) as face value, it is clearly a legitimate business run by thoughtful and intelligent individuals.   My only concern with Cryptsy.com would be their legal compliance.  As I understand Federal and State Money Transmission regulation they would seem to me ( I am not a lawyer or any type of legal expert - this is only my personal opinion) to be operating as a Money Transmitter without a license.  

So while your coins may be save from a business and a technological standpoint (depending on their security model) the greater concern would be shut down by law enforcement and civil asset forfeiture of any coins on the cryptsy.com server at the time of any seizure.

EDIT: as we have seen from the SHREM indictment (http://www.scribd.com/doc/202555785/United-States-vs-Charles-Shrem-and-Robert-M-Faiella) the US GOV has been making undercover buys from the SR since 2012.  If, in their ongoing investigation, they determine that any coins from SR made their way into or out of Cryptsy.com in an effort to launder or move funds from any illicit activity, there are civil asset forfeitures regulations in place that could have an impact on all funds held on cryptsy.com's servers.

I think it would be tough to fully trust any on-line virtual currency business right now unless they clearly state their compliance with laws and regulations in any jurisdictions in which they operate.  As we have seen in the past, virtual currency business are clearly the current focus of law enforcement's efforts and I don't think we've seen that last of the their efforts to make an example of individuals and business that are not operating with in the existing laws and regulations.  

The only question that remains is "Who is next?"
275  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: February 01, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
IMHO the protocol speaks for it's self, the fact that the vast majority of journalist's haven't taken the time to even learn the basics speaks volumes about the desperation of the average sensationalist media hack.  

Many of the regulators who will soon be issuing regulation and even new law don't fully understand the potential of the protocol and you know where they are getting their info:  From the press whose main mission is selling enough eyeballs to their advertisers ( with sensational 'link-baiting' headlines)  in an effort to keep their operations afloat.

The community needs to reach out and EDUCATE or as we have seen it will be done for us!  Write a letter to your state legislator, write a letter your federal legislator.  Explain to them simply how the protocol works, explain to them the benefits it can offer to society,  explain to them how you use it.  Then explain to them how we as a community are being criminalized by the illicit activity of the bad actors.

The fact is decentralized virtual currency like bitcoin with an open, public ledger is the LAST place a criminal would want to launder money - which is the MAIN concern of government.  

Refer them to the many academics like Sarah Meiklejohn and her team who are doing studies of the blockchain: "A Fistful of Bitcoins: Characterizing Payments Among Men with No Names" http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~smeiklejohn/files/login13.pdf

This is a DECENTRALIZED community. You can't rely on the bitcoin foundation or the bitcoin center or the bitcoin embassy etc to do it for you.  

We must each do our part and make an effort engage the decision makes to help then allay their fears and increase their understanding of this truly revolutionary technology.
276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POLL | Should Gavin decline or accept the CFR invite ? on: January 31, 2014, 12:21:41 AM
Charles Lee ROCKED the New York State Department of Financial Services BitLicense Hearing.  Watch it if you can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OEJiWhCOEk

When asked by Benjamin Lawsky about risks to the Bitcoin network Lee responded in all seriousness:  "If the government is concerned about the security of the network, they should start mining."

Now that is how distributed consensus works!

 
277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Coinbase email Phishing - Beware on: January 29, 2014, 10:57:51 AM



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278  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: North American Bitcoin Conference - Miami Beach - Jan 25 & 26th, 2014 on: January 29, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Is there no video from the conference?

"Let's Talk Bitcoin" has been broadcasting audio of some of the talks.

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/

279  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Bitcoin-Banker.Com = Bitcoin hybrid cloud wallet on: January 29, 2014, 10:46:17 AM
Scamma Damma Ding dong.
280  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 90 BTC stolen! on: January 27, 2014, 02:01:50 AM
If tools like BitIodine were public, maybe these cases would have more chances, and thefts would reduce frequency.
http://miki.it/pdf/BitIodine_presentation.pdf
http://miki.it/pdf/thesis.pdf

is this your paper?
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