Another issue that you don't get any fees back by mining. With 20000khash running 24/7 I get like 1/lots of thousands of 0.09 in fees for a block from the pool. Is this really an accurate reprensentation of how much transaction data my 20000khash can help process in relation to what I am being forced to pay in fees by the new client?
Yes. Go into your settings and set fees to 0 if you want to try to send transactions without fees. I don't know how well it works; good luck. works fine for me. the transactions are a bit slow, but they are full working i don't want to pay fees before the reward for a block reaches 6.25 btc. The reward now is 50, and i think that is a fine reward, for solving a block, i don't think we should give fee to the miners they are earning enough for now. im not saying fees are bad or any think and i think the miners should berewardet for the work they do for bitcoin, but no fee for now. |
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That's just one big offer. I cannot tell if this is the same thing this time - but I've seen someone manipulating the market in this manner.
now there is two.  i also seen it before. and its likely that the price will fall in a correction... i happed before, after a big rise. i sold mine at $10. |
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let just start it now: Sell! Sell! Sell!i already sold mine |
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hi! im a high school student from Denmark  i currently working on bitdrop the Courier network. im a python/C/bash programmer. and i am a Linux 'fanboy' nice to see you all. |
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i would like too, but i don't have the time. I am still in school. |
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you are wrong.
i have never said people MUST do something, and i never will. it their coins its them who decides what to do with them.
i DON'T want their coins.
i have never mined, and never will(except maybe try FPGA mining sometime, and then use is to do funny stuff on after)
Some of your quotes in this topic: it might not be so high that it is a problem for you. but i think MtGox should not take so much for it. i dont like that! i think the fee should be around 0.05% its more fair. (it gives them a ~48.25btc/2day) good point. but still 626btc/2day is way to much.i think t hey should have many coins, but not as much as they have now. i can't see me trying to force MtGox to set a lower fee, im only suggesting that they should set a lower fee. and im also suspecting that the last qoute you has takeing from me, you must have misread. |
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Their money, they can do what they like with it. Burn it for all I care (can you burn bitcoins?).
it should be eazy: get some gasoline. put it on your pc. take a ligther. watch the stuff burn. Cheaper way exist, put your wallet on a cheap 64mb usb stick and burn it. oh. yes but then there is file recovery... its easier just to burn the whole computer. |
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Their money, they can do what they like with it. Burn it for all I care (can you burn bitcoins?).
it should be eazy: get some gasoline. put it on your pc. take a ligther. watch the stuff burn. |
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Dude, you know what is the biggest problem? People like you who think they know how other people SHOULD (or later MUST) act.
If you think MtGox takes too much, use other exchange. Or, better, start your own new exchange taking just 0.05% as you proposed. You will be happy, maybe we, too. Better not ask how much robbery fee I had to shell out to my bank to accept EURO SEPA payment from MtGox and convert it to my local currency.
If you think some have too much Bitcoins, you should CPU-mined them last year. When the price of electricity was larger than what was their price.
Check Google Finance. You will see buying Apple stock in 2003 also could make a lot of people insanely rich nowadays. Should they now give a part to you?
you are wrong. i have never said people MUST do something, and i never will. it their coins its them who decides what to do with them. i DON'T want their coins. i have never mined, and never will(except maybe try FPGA mining sometime, and then use is to do funny stuff on after) |
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Next you'll be one of those guys pissed off about the early adopters sitting on tens of thousands of coins for having the foresight to participate in this program.
i already am. its not because of greed. its because i don't think its good for the economy that 10 people is sitting on 90% of the money(over estimate). i think they should have many coins, but not as much as they have now. They won't after you offer them enough to sell. Problem solved! I don't think they are buying. They are speculating. im not socialist, but i think the people with the money, should also take the responsibility. just like with the root account: "with great power, comes great responsibility" |
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Next you'll be one of those guys pissed off about the early adopters sitting on tens of thousands of coins for having the foresight to participate in this program.
i already am. its not because of greed. its because i don't think its good for the economy that 10 people is sitting on 90% of the money(over estimate). i think they should have many coins, but not as much as they have now. |
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so, if you all think, the fee is 100% earnings, you must also think, MtGox operates for free,
the owner works for free, support is free, servers are free, DDoS protection is free, that all doesnt cost a dime, huh?
like others said, if you don't like it, don't use it,
there's other exchanges with lower, or no fees at all, use those,
or create a new exchange with lower/no fees, try to compete.
good point. but still 626btc/2day is way to much. |
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The fee CANNOT be too high, because if it was, the market would react.
OR the market is stupid and didn't know and therefor didn't reacte. that why i wrote this post to make people know how much MtGox is earning. "earning" would be the operative word. what's the fee for exchanging currency at the average airport? currency exchange != airport |
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MtGox has a monopoly on the exchange market. Let's change that. Not because I don't like MtGox, but because competition is a very healthy thing for a market/industry/economy.
+1 |
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The fee CANNOT be too high, because if it was, the market would react.
OR the market is stupid and didn't know and therefor didn't reacte. that why i wrote this post to make people know how much MtGox is earning. |
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think it should be in offtopic. but it still excticing. looking forward to see how it turn out |
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i know but MtGox is where things happen. |
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just asking if you think if the fee on MtGox is too high.
i think its very high, and also thinks that MtGox is earning alot of eazy btc on it.
it might not be so high that it is a problem for you.
but i think MtGox should not take so much for it.
every time ther is traded 100 btc they earn 0.65 btc.
and there has been trading for around 96461 the last 2 days. it gives them 626 btc in fees in the last 2 days.
i dont like that! i think the fee should be around 0.05% its more fair. (it gives them a ~48.25btc/2day)
i know that its their choose, free market and all that stuff.
what do you think?
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How to create really anonymous bitcoins.
if you wants more anonymity install tor too, and make it the default proxy for bitcoin. |
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