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maybe an invention of an algorithm or formula could get things done...thinking out of the box...a game changing idea...
a four wheeled vehicle would not make it to real world application without the invention of the steering wheel(including mechanisms). because in the real world you have to deal with cross roads and curves.
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Where did he state his hash rate? Why was he buying up 20,000 coins at a time in those early days if he already got 40% of all the coins created? And so many people knew how to rent amazon servers to mine via cpu. There were so many people that knew and were doing it. I think you are way off. The highest estimate I could come up with was that Evan has 200,000 coins, including the ones he bought, minus what he spent on awards and other things. I think also, that he is more than worth the price.
I don't recall exactly where I stumbled across it, I was researching Dash 6+ months ago. I did however find a breakdown from another user who shows a similar result to what I calculated (first ~20 hours): Dude, if you're going to quote me, you have to include it in context. I didn't "show a similar result". Did you even read my post? Those numbers require a bunch of rosy assumptions that simply can't be true: 1) It assumes that Evan was the ONLY miner for the first 500 blocks, which we know isn't true. There was at least one other developer at that time, I believe a friend of Evan's, but I'm not sure... so the "instamine" would have been split at least between two people 2) It assumes no one else was mining for the first 500 blocks (which may be the case... we'll never know, but I make this assumption in the interests of being conservative) 3) It assumes that Evan and Co had absolutely no down time for updating their miners, which is impossible... any downtime would reduce these assumptions 4) It assumes that once huge amounts of mining power joined beginning at block 500 that Evan didn't start experiencing an elevated level of rejects... this is unlikely as well since blocks were being created so rapidly at that time - literally seconds apart on average - that he and many others reported rejects, getting on wrong chains, having to reset, etc. Evan would have no way to be immune to these issues caused by the rapid creation of the blocks and network latency, so the true "networkhashps" is clearly understated during that period because many blocks were rejected and not counted. 5) It assumes that he never sold any Dash EDIT: Not to mention that I was very clear that these numbers therefore constituted an UPPER LIMIT to refute claims by trolls (which I am starting to suspect you are) that Evan had instamined 1.8 million coins. This was proof that the claim was bogus. The real number is clearly much lower for all of the above reasons, which makes Evan's claimed amount of coins very much in line with what the data shows. If you are going to just ignore data, you are no longer just exhibiting "healthy scepticism" and I'm inclined to classify you as a troll yourself. assume .. assume ..la la la assume .. assume .. Taylor05, signed up jan19, 2014...all first post darkcoin, non-newbie-ish posts and forever darkcoin  what is your love at first sight story with darkcoin? welcome to my list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.msg13200467#msg13200467 |
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Evan does not own 500+ nodes. Otoh our largest investor currently owns about 430 nodes as he divested a big portion of his nodes in favor of more distribution and a healthier network, also giving new whales the opportunity to buy in. Having said that, I don't see why the minimum age for a proposal could not be changed to 48 or 72 hours to always give the network more time. I think that is a really good suggestion.
How would you know? I ran the numbers 6 months ago, but I estimated Evan should have mined 750,000+ in the first 24-48 hours with the hashrate he himself claimed to have at the time... that's 750MNs already... (not that he necessarily has them online right now) Then they start collecting 50% of the mining share as masternodes, he should have 1000+ by now... Yeah, your numbers are off and Minotaur is correct. I do not hold as many coins as Otoh. The system is designed in such a way that the founders eventually lose complete control of the voting system. It's on purpose, we are the ones that have the best idea of what needs to be done currently, but over the next few years our voting power will become less and less. Look at the emission schedule here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RpLd87PTs65sz8USrrXwGRoVGVbzaC-nunErEtGSJoE/edit#gid=055% of the coins are going to people other than the masternodes (miners and budgets), that means a good portion of those will actually be turned into fresh masternodes. Over a long period of time this will dilute our power in the system. In 2020 we will have nearly 10 million coins and probably about 7000 masternodes (Just a guess based on current trends). In 2025 we will have nearly 12 million coins and probably about 9000 masternodes. You should be able to see where I'm going. Those with a many masternodes can't even keep control of this if they are dedicating a good deal of earned coins back into the system. Year by year, our network will become increasingly more decentralized. I think it's a good strategy. You also have to consider running masternodes isn't free. Operators must pay for hosting or someone to administer their nodes. Those coins are also reentering the supply and some of them will be turned into a new masternode, ran by someone else. Every part of this process further decentralizes the system over time. --skipping the instamine dialogue-- and why reduce the maximum coin supply from 84 million to 18 million and block rewards too. |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA Then I transitioned from a gullible fool and I started to ponder the more likely truth about the altcoin arena being one big "mining the speculators" paradigm.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Learn noobs |
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We are already a movement that goes beyond online forums and this is how we will continue to grow. Well done. Looks like a great presentation and healthy looking audience. You guys sure are proving to be a powerhouse on the promotional front as well as in development ! you think moving beyond online ensures growth or success? LEOcoin by far outpaces you in terms of "going beyond online" by doing MLM ...but their coin is crashing why? it is a scam coin like yours  ..oh it is not a coin but a "digital scam cash" (digital cash) DUHHSSHH! LOL! |
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wow, i found my name on your list. Thanks for that.
is that all you have to say? gonna stay away now like everyone on the list or ..are you kind enough to share your love at first sight story with darkcoin? @icebreaker they know and they stay away LOL! yes sorry, that's all i have to say here. In our DASH community we love to contribute and do some work for our coin, this thread is useless but good enough to stop your cryptogang from working on your own. Btw, it's not too late to buy some DASH, you are here and could also be a very early investor in it. DASH is still very young and very cheap at the moment. But i wish you guys all the best with your coin, over and out. I'm giving you a way out of shadiness among your DASH gang...isn't it funny that DASH foundation members and prominent members don't want to share their love at first sight story with darkcoin even if they are publicly known..hhmmmmm. |
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I want to...tell a story of a couple of nights ago. My hubby and kids were in Texas visiting family, and my sister came over. We sat at the fireplace sipping wine and enjoying each other's company in a quiet way that almost never happens. And she, who is completely skeptical, started asking questions about Dash. But what about this? How can you do that? etc.... and by the end, when she went back home, she'd learned a lot more about Dash and crypto currency than I've ever been able to explain before. It was very nice. She's far from being converted but on the other hand, she's starting to mull it over. Very exciting for me  If she ever converts, LOL, then the rest of the world would be a slam dunk! Invite them too to signup at bitcointalk and we will sip some instamine-x @ icebreaker not only these dash shills endorsed cryptsy back then, they mud sling poloniex too because XMR is the no. 1 coin with the highest volume there. |
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wow, i found my name on your list. Thanks for that.
is that all you have to say? gonna stay away now like everyone on the list or ..are you kind enough to share your love at first sight story with darkcoin? @icebreaker they know and they stay away LOL! |
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( back stabbed dashcoin ) Dashcoin looks to be doing well! Even hit $10 USD in 24h volume today. Must be a whale buying in. ROFL ... now that's what I'm talking about... confirmed name stealing... crosspost: This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.
There's too much competition with the name DASH. Google search "DASH" and you'll find KarDASHian clothing, something to do with coding, paywithdash.com that appears to be a mobile payment app, and DASH soap.
Ask someone "can i pay with Dash?" and they may think you are talking about the payment app, not the cryptocurrency.
now I'm thinking, they might want to add "coin" to DASH...like DASHcoin LOL! and where is minotaur26??? crosspost: haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off. well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion. this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above. What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin. Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests. The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums. The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now. Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone. what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand? "the acquired project itself will not continue" https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened. Hi Ariel, no one failed, it was important for us for Dashcoin to continue as I already explained. You are quoting something from our own forum, you must understand it was a complicated process for us too, re brands are not easy people at the time were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no, we would not continue with that project ourselves. Anyway I just wanted to clarify this for Artic, I am not really looking to convince you of anything. We are happy with the results. were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests kindly elaborate this statement...if dashcoin continue working and what if not? Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone. it reached all time low during that time, it only became slightly higher when you failed to kill dashcoin and that brings confidence to DSH coin and exposure.. you wanted it dead so you can have the name all for yourselves. were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no NONE of you people are in dashcoin thread until Evan back stabbed dashcoin holders, and now you are saying this? WOW! taking care my ass suddenly it became your project ... SUUUUPPERR WOW WHOOOH!! hahaha |
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actually just objectively reporting on the features of DASH without using a single hype-word
and why do you need to create a sock puppet account just to hype dash? And what's it to you, ding-dong? you know I have a thread with a list of user accounts with first post darkcoin (not newbie-ish posts)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.0and you macrochip is included.. i was thinking i might add this Chkval..but i don't want to flood it with newbie accounts...I'd rather focus on shady people like you I am aware of your autoerotic "investigation". I just couldn't bring myself do give a flying fuck about it due to the humongous amount of ridiculousness it provides. Whatever you think you're achieving with it, backstabbing loser, you're not. Dash is winning and there's nothing you can do about it, backstabber: no it is not ridiculous, you and your cohorts are just running away from that thread..just like lebubar ..because it brings light to all your shadiness haha Evan is the backstabber not me ( back stabbed dashcoin ) |
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HYPE...
and why do you need to create a sock puppet account just to hype dash? Ohhh, now you're in my ignore list no problem, i know I'm not ignored in your other DASH shilling account |
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DASH HYPE
and why do you need to create a sock puppet account just to hype dash? And what's it to you, ding-dong? you know I have a thread with a list of user accounts with first post darkcoin (not newbie-ish posts)? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1282836.0and you macrochip is included.. i was thinking i might add this Chkval..but i don't want to flood it with newbie accounts...I'd rather focus on shady people like you |
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Dash is a total failure when it comes to brand recognition even way worse than Goldcoin I doubt it. Just because you Googled and trawled up a pile of brands from all sorts of trading sectors doesn't mean you can't do that with almost any other brand - even in the crypto space. In fact, all those comparisons do is to show how successful it's been in acquiring such a coveted identity and deploy it within the crypto space. dash.org  P.S....and those are just from one country alone  so if there is no problem with having the same brand names, how come evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin by paying the dev to fuck off?...minotaur26 didn't answer me..why did he say that you want dashcoin to continue working?...what are the expected circumstances if dashcoin continues or stopped working? |
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HYPE...
and why do you need to create a sock puppet account just to hype dash? |
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@ TPTB_need_war I've read you made kombucha(in your economic totalitarianism thread)... I suggest trying to make a ginger bug to make some ginger ale, you can get your probiotics or whatever good stuff is in there..Philippines is a ginger producing country, gingers are easily available and cheap. (I got curious and made some ginger ale because there is someone with "ginger ale" username roaming around in XMR thread) ginger bug: purified water grated ginger sugar (brown or muscovado) 1/3 of a container (1 liter glass jar) is grated ginger, add sugar (same amount of ginger)..the rest is water, add 1.5 tablespoon (heaping) sugar every day and mix. when you bubbles rising and at the side it is ready _______________________________________________________________________ ginger ale: 1 kilo sugar (brown or muscovado) 1 gallon purified water 2 cups ginger bug juice (strained) 400 grams of ginger 100 grams of red ginger (if you can get one, it is 5x smaller, 5x more spicier and 5x more expensive) boil (medium-low) the ginger in 2 liters of water and strain the juice (30 min to 1 hr), if the grated ginger is still spicy and gingery (specially the red ginger) add another 2 liters of water and boil again, (for me that's for 2 batches of ginger ale - keep the excess in the ref), boil 1kg sugar in the ginger water until diluted. note: for the second batch that's another 1 kilo of sugar and 2 cups of ginger bug juice. put in a container(there should be a space for fermentation to breath 1/4 to 1/3 of the container), add cold water to make a gallon and reduce the temp that might harm your ginger bug and don't worry about the spiciness it will mellow down during fermentation. add 2 cups of ginger bug. _______________________________________________________________________________ _____ taste test until sugar sweetness is low (depends on your preference), for me it took 2.5 days beside miners fermentation areas: behind a refrigerator, beside miners. my ginger ale is a bit concentrated so you can add water to dilute (you can adjust to your preference), concentration makes space in the refrigerator. the taste is closer to grocery iced tea juice when diluted (if it is not diluted the taste is like an ale or beer) so it is a very enjoyable drink..the spiciness gives warmth and the coldness gives refreshment. health benefits that I immediately noticed, it aids digestion, when eating heavy meals with meat and rice and drinking ginger ale, it is not heavy to the stomach anymore..adds extra energy too.. that's 2 batches of 1 gallon ginger ale that can be diluted to 2 gallons (up to 4 gallons or 16 liters for 2 batches if diluted). the cost is about 300 pesos or 6.5$ for all ingredients, water and LPG. _______________________________________________________________________________ __ my next ginger ale batch i will add Davao pomelo (fragrant and delicious) pulps in the fermentation. my next experiment is to make a root beer tasting ginger ale by adding this ingredient to the fermentation..i might find this kalingag from herbal vendors here.. http://herbs-treatandtaste.blogspot.com/2012/03/kalingagunique-to-philippines-health.htmlEDIT: the pulp will float, remove it (not good for drinking experience) ..the flavor spreads anyway |
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off. well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion. this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above. What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin. Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests. The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums. The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now. Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone. what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand? "the acquired project itself will not continue"https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened. Hi Ariel, no one failed, it was important for us for Dashcoin to continue as I already explained. You are quoting something from our own forum, you must understand it was a complicated process for us too, re brands are not easy people at the time were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no, we would not continue with that project ourselves. Anyway I just wanted to clarify this for Artic, I am not really looking to convince you of anything. We are happy with the results. were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests kindly elaborate this statement...if dashcoin continue working and what if not? Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone. it reached all time low during that time, it only became slightly higher when you failed to kill dashcoin and that brings confidence to DSH coin and exposure.. you wanted it dead so you can have the name all for yourselves. were wondering if the Dash team was going to take care of DSH and the answer to that was no NONE of you people are in dashcoin thread until Evan back stabbed dashcoin holders, and now you are saying this? WOW! taking care my ass suddenly it became your project ... SUUUUPPERR WOW WHOOOH!! |
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This may be off-topic but I think they should have stuck with the Darkcoin name.
There's too much competition with the name DASH. Google search "DASH" and you'll find KarDASHian clothing, something to do with coding, paywithdash.com that appears to be a mobile payment app, and DASH soap.
Ask someone "can i pay with Dash?" and they may think you are talking about the payment app, not the cryptocurrency.
now I'm thinking, they might want to add "coin" to DASH...like DASHcoin LOL! |
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off. well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion. this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million Dashcoin [DSH] is a textbook example on how de-centralized virtual currencies are supposed to work, and why the developers are not administrators as per the FinCEN guidance. https://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html, They also cannot be issuers of the coin as a security. Other good examples are Monero (The takeover from thankful_for_today) and of course Bitcoin (The two sides on the blocksize debate). Market capitalization is not critical here given the wide range of capitalizations of the examples above. What occurred with Dashcoin is that the Darkcoin Foundation attempted to buy Dashcoin as if it were a centralized virtual currency in order to become its administrator, as per the FinCEN guidance. The original intent was to shut it down. The motive for this was that they needed the common law trademark rights associated with the word dash for a trademark dispute with a third party. There was even an investor in the then Darkcoin who figured on purchasing 51% of all Dashcoins in order to "control" Dashcoin as if it were a company. His motivation was to protect his investment in the then Darkcoin after the failed takeover attempt of the Darkcoin foundation. The key here is that both of these attempts to turn Dashcoin into a centralized virtual currency failed, despite the minuscule capitalization of Dashcoin. Hi Artic, I know you to be a reasonable person so let me just try to clarify something, the intention was never to shut down DSH, as you mentioned we were interested in the trademark rights so it was good for the project to continue working, for it to die would have been against our interests. The idea of us wanting DSH to die is just propaganda from the forums. The other thing you mention is about that user MyFarm that has nothing to do with the Dash project other than having invested in it at some point and is AWOL for a long time now. Even today the DSH marketcap is higher than before Dash took an interest in the project so the outcome was positive for everyone. what part of Evan Duffield's statement you can't understand? "the acquired project itself will not continue"https://dashtalk.org/threads/official-statement-on-rebranding-to-dash.4297/anyway it was an amazing display of power a decentralized crypto currency showed back then (by dashcoin). you DASH/darkcoin people failed and then try to white wash what happened. |
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Okay, it is really confusing. So, am I right? DASH [DASH] -> total amount 22 million Dashcoin [DSH] -> total amount 18.4 million haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off. well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion. this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million DASH total is near 18.9 million https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.0Dashcoin total coins 18.446 Million https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0coin supply is stated in the first page of the coins thread. |
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haha.......evan duffield tried to kill dashcoin for its name by paying dashcoin dev to fuck off. well dashcoin is still alive because of decentralization...evan created confusion. this is outdated and wrong dashcoin is not POS + POW the supply is not 184 billion it is 18.4 million |
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