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dnaleor had the courage to act in real life to defend his position, not only behind an stupid nickname like all the other trolls (Icy, ariel, smoothy, etc.) hiding in a forum.
He has my respect for that.
Yes, he has my respect for that as well. But he didn't defend anything, he accused someone for scamming. After all, you think that I'm not helping him with his insecurity and anxiety? He will be stronger after he read all this. That's why I advised him "Grow a pair next time and laugh it up a little bit" and even suggest a good old movie "Cool Hand Luke"  somebody respects Icebreaker here too, i'd like you to take note on that. Follow Icebreaker's example: he knows Dash pretty well and sometimes even mentions real issues of this project. He also exaggerates them to an extremely absurd level which makes it difficult to take him seriously but he still makes some valid points.
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Keep trolling boys!!! I'm warming up my garage for that new addition I'm buying. Love you guys... Though I can't see your posts, I'm sure it's trolling of some sort...
You are DASH's lucky charms! It must be so disheartening to see that your feeble whimpering is doing nothing but drive us up. So so sad.  Pretty much half the monero dev team community is on here trollin'  Soooo boring I didn't get, btw, why the fact that Evan could have been thinking of Masternodes as an issue. It was something that changed (and is changing) the market. So, if he had it in mind early or thinking of it after some sort of "Back to the future" happening while cleaning the kitchen, i don't care. Bless he did. Thank you for thinking of MNs, Evan! According to Arielbits valuable research, and I'm paraphrasing, it does matter because Evan the Instaminer scammed everyone with the instamine. He then diabolically conceived masternodes almost at the beginning as a way to keep his scam going forever from masternode income, and it was all premeditated and he didn't tell us about masternodes until he had to. And dash is a scam. And it was instamined. Meanwhile Icebreaker is concerned about IPv6 not being available to masternodes. He does care. Smooth is also worried, I think about the cost of a masternode but for some reason won't consider sharing payments from one based on shared collateral. you forgot an important piece of statement..."Evan's masternode plans is his motivation to orchestrate the instamine" Evan's motivation to do the instamine proves that it never was an accident. |
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It is rather interesting to see these trolls fall back into their old habits of spamming this Dash ANN thread with troll posts whenever they feel insecure and threathened by Dash. While knowing they get reported to the Bitcointalkforum moderator for excessive trolling and risk getting banned for weeks by that type of trolling behaviour.
I vividly remember arielbit getting bannend for excessive trolling in the past.. what was it again arielbit ? Two weeks ?
Always remember : actions have consequences
so inquiring about DASH anon tech susceptibility to timing attacks and discussing Evan's hiding of the "masternode concept" and why was it hidden from public before and a month after Xcoin launch (which turns out to be the perfect motive for instamining).....is trolling ??  don't mix me handling your shill-troll replies (with ease and finesse) with "trolling" buddy  am I discussing some pressing matters here? that qwizzie is publicly reporting me to moderators? didn't know you're a cry baby  and to add to that, nobody here was able to debunk my theories/arguments |
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I had already explained why you can't do this kind of attack and won't do it again. This is not a spam contest. You can't prove a false statement by repeating it. I am still waiting for you to prove that Evan had the MN concept in mind before he shared it here. It should impossible to prove unless you can read his mind. But you got caught in this logical trap by yourself, no one forced you And even if he did then I don't see anything drastic here. Actually I advise you to do some research before posting the same BS over and over again. Follow Icebreaker's example: he knows Dash pretty well and sometimes even mentions real issues of this project. He also exaggerates them to an extremely absurd level which makes it difficult to take him seriously but he still makes some valid points. You, on the other hand, act at a level of a mediocre chat bot i just realized that you have a comprehension problem, no worries i won't mention our concluded statement (for your sake) but i will mention how you bailed out on the topic.. You bailed out by hiding behind MasterMined710's statement that didn't prove anything. back to Evan.. I'll sum up things for you pretty good so you can comprehend..and afbitcoins who has a reading problem can read without vehemently scrolling down. let's begin.. CHECK THE DATESJanuary 18, 2014 the instamine occured..48 hours later Evan posted this. Great, now that everything is stable, I'll be posting later about the vision of this project and milestones! Time to move on to actually implementing what I set out to do.
- he said "i'll be posting later" not "i will think of a vision of this project and milestones"... - before February 21, 2014, Evan already forked DASH from 84 Million supply to about 21 Million, and you can see him posting, WTB 20,000 and WTB 10,000 DASH --->this is clearly an accumulation because.. (only he knows ) clearly he is still not planning to tell the public about the masternodes in February 21, 2014 but since a guy asked him in reddit he was forced to speak about it....well after a month people will ask what's this coin up to obviously.. see..this was the vision of this project and milestones posted a month after the instamine do i have to breakdown your baby food into a mush Riseman? |
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I don't understand... if the trolls are so disillusioned and dissatisfied with their scumero coin that they prefer to spend their time focusing on Dash, why don't they just switch to supporting a coin they can actually get some enthusiasm for? Theyre all so passionate about Dash this would be an obvious choice, but it takes a special kind of stupid to troll the coin they're passionate about whilst silently supporting a scum coin that clearly embarrasses them and bores them to tears.... By all means keep it up though! We'll be in the 20s by tomorrow What exactly makes Monero scummy though? It seems just as legitimate as other "legitimate" coins. The thing being Monero has an independent codebase from Bitcoin and wasn't forked from Litecoin/etc. I don't see how Monero is an embarrassment either as its development has come a long way considering it (again) was not forked from the a Bitcoin style clone and it has a market cap nearly 50% higher than DASH. I just don't see why the two communities have to be so needlessly hateful unless someone can point to a legitimate reason for their disapproval of another coin. NOTE: I do not currently hold any Monero and I do in fact have a decent sum of DASH. From the beginning, Monero has trolled this thread and repeatedly made false accusations. We didn't start it! A Monero troll even came to a conference that our lead dev presented at, and during Evan's presentation, the Monero guy passed around fliers calling Dash a scam. So you might want to rework your question--we haven't be hateful to them at all. It's pretty much a one-way street. enough of playing the victim here...why don't you guys answer my inquiry...i'm waay past my sleeping time here..i expect answers when i wake up. and oh...blame macrochip, he summoned me here...just happened that i have unfinished questions, the other one was concluded by me and Riseman that DASH anon tech somewhat works by wasting money and wasting time. @bigrcanada i hope your sourgrapes are turning a little bit sweeter with this DASH pump @Gi01 look at how much the masternodes generate coins compared to coins generated by POW mining  |
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I don't understand... if the trolls are so disillusioned and dissatisfied with their scumero coin that they prefer to spend their time focusing on Dash, why don't they just switch to supporting a coin they can actually get some enthusiasm for? Theyre all so passionate about Dash this would be an obvious choice, but it takes a special kind of stupid to troll the coin they're passionate about whilst silently supporting a scum coin that clearly embarrasses them and bores them to tears.... By all means keep it up though! We'll be in the 20s by tomorrow What exactly makes Monero scummy though? It seems just as legitimate as other "legitimate" coins. The thing being Monero has an independent codebase from Bitcoin and wasn't forked from Litecoin/etc. I don't see how Monero is an embarrassment either as its development has come a long way considering it (again) was not forked from the a Bitcoin style clone and it has a market cap nearly 50% higher than DASH. I just don't see why the two communities have to be so needlessly hateful unless someone can point to a legitimate reason for their disapproval of another coin. NOTE: I do not currently hold any Monero and I do in fact have a decent sum of DASH. You're reading too much into what I said. I know very little about Monero. I'm not interested so I stay away. The fact that these trolls can't do that is what leads me to speculate about why they're here instead of there. If they were proud of and dedicated to their coin, surely they'd be there, which is the only point I was trying to make. Date Registered: August 02, 2016 you are pretty fresh around here...Just watch and learn buddy |
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Arielbit. It was an instamine of an almost worthless token at the time. It has proved its worth after much development and changes. Your argument is pointless. There has been plenty of time to buy at cheap prices. If you are worried about the way a coin is distributed why not go and attack the Ripple forums
my investigation shows that ... ^ that was the impression projected to the public, while hiding his plans in making masternodes out of the coins. It has proved its worth after much development and changes how about the worth of publicly known plan of creating those masternodes "before" launching Xcoin?..Evan knows before and a month after the launch date but he deliberately kept the public in the dark( the irony-darkcoin LOL). why are you so defensive? this is not just about the "distribution argument", this is about finding the motive for orchestrating the instamine.. |
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* snip * * snip * * snip * * snip * * snip * * snip * etc ... yeah..keep pretending not seeing my post bitches -snip- In answer to your masternodes point, what is your point? You hate that Evan is doing well from something he created? Doesn't bother me comrade. I stayed with Dash because I saw a lot of potential in the concept of a two tier network. -snip- my point is...I'm asking around here if Evan did really hide his plans (specifically the masternodes) from the public on purpose..it is very logical and reasonable enough to be the motivation to orchestrate the instamine.. if there is a motivation = instamine will really look like an orchestrated event. no motivation = people like DASH fanatics/propagandists will clearly argue that it was an accident. let us hear from TaoofCRAPtoshi and Amanda B (ullshit) J (uggler) ?? we all know when building a case, "motivation" is an essential ingredient to look at why hide it for over a month since Xcoin launch? (and to mention he still saying "it is not important for discussion" even after he already announced the masternodes after a month from launch date) -insider trading? -he and his buddies accumulating? is the "masternodes concept" and the instamine related?.. seems perfectly reasonable to grab those coins and lock them up into POS, so they can generate more coins than POW miners without spending on stuff like rigs and electricity, and reduce the block reward and total supply from 84M to 21M to finish the job... this is the story of DASH beginnings in relation to the "Masternodes"......"Masternodes" are posted on like every page in this thread Masternodes = the nodes of the Masters of DASH network .. who are the Masters? you know who you are |
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Outdated trolling script:
1. Mixing Tech
2. Mixing Time
1. We use denominated mixing which solves the tracking problems most BTC mixers have. They have new tech now that tracks specific amounts but is defeated by denominations. Blockchain Analysis and Anti-Money Laundering "Everyone should send bitcoins in rounded amounts from 0.25 to 1.0, this would destroy the entire matching algorithm, if we all just send coins in amounts of 1.0 it would be impossible to ascertain users if we avoided KYC." https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5cb74u/blockchain_analysis_and_antimoney_laundering/2. People are already reporting 30 min mixing times with this new release and the network has not yet even fully updated. Not even sure if that was with the new multi session mixing on or not? I will do a live mixing test next week after enforcment is on and the network is fully updated and stable. I'm betting it will be faster to mix and receive a confirmed/locked double spend proof instantsend transaction than a fully confirmed double spend proof monero transaction. no matter how much you denominate coins and mix it, the conclusion that me and Riseman reached still stands. you should mix coins in advance and better not the exact amount you are going to spend privately.
It does not anymore after MasterMined710's reply. No matter how much you show your (intentional) lack of technical understanding, it won't convince anyone but total noobs. i like how you cut my statement (this part) DASH blockchain can still be analyzed and it is only a matter of "analysis algorithm" to get varying meta data. I'm betting it will be faster to mix as i have argued up thread, it is not about the speed of mixing time but it's all about blockchain analysis, if you mix a 100 DASH today and sent it to John...a simple blockchain analysis of "who lost a 100 DASH and who recieved a 100 DASH today" can greatly narrow suspects down to a few or worse a specific individual ..and spew a pointless argument, i hope you don't end up like ceti and MasterMined710 with cheap-retarded-out of topic attacks on me no matter how hard you try, it is still very clear that both our conclusion still stands. which is.. That is why you should mix coins in advance and better not the exact amount you are going to spend privately.
i like you to make a manual on that for the newbs and for the next generation of crypto users heheh...like, mix a 100 coins when you are going to spend 80 coins...and oh, mix your coins on thursday before spending them in saturday LOOOOL end of discussion...see ya and good luck ...... to all DASH fanatics/shills/love at first sight accounts: no proof yet of "masternode concept" before and after a month of Xcoin launch? did Evan intentionaly hide it from the public? c'mon I'm about to make a reference thread about this in "altcoin discussion".. I need you guys to clarify this issue.. note: i know you are here reading my inquiry...specially when the price is rising, you all are taking a peek at this thread |
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Outdated trolling script:
1. Mixing Tech
2. Mixing Time
1. We use denominated mixing which solves the tracking problems most BTC mixers have. They have new tech now that tracks specific amounts but is defeated by denominations. Blockchain Analysis and Anti-Money Laundering "Everyone should send bitcoins in rounded amounts from 0.25 to 1.0, this would destroy the entire matching algorithm, if we all just send coins in amounts of 1.0 it would be impossible to ascertain users if we avoided KYC." https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/5cb74u/blockchain_analysis_and_antimoney_laundering/2. People are already reporting 30 min mixing times with this new release and the network has not yet even fully updated. Not even sure if that was with the new multi session mixing on or not? I will do a live mixing test next week after enforcment is on and the network is fully updated and stable. I'm betting it will be faster to mix and receive a confirmed/locked double spend proof instantsend transaction than a fully confirmed double spend proof monero transaction. no matter how much you denominate coins and mix it, the conclusion that me and Riseman reached still stands. you should mix coins in advance and better not the exact amount you are going to spend privately.
DASH blockchain can still be analyzed and it is only a matter of "analysis algorithm" to get varying meta data. I'm betting it will be faster to mix as i have argued up thread, it is not about the speed of mixing time but it's all about blockchain analysis, if you mix a 100 DASH today and sent it to John...a simple blockchain analysis of "who lost a 100 DASH and who recieved a 100 DASH today" can greatly narrow suspects down to a few or worse a specific individual by the way is there any update on this? I just read a Darkcoin whitepaper from march 2014 that talks about masternodes and Darksend/privatesend, supposedly there is another white paper before that but i don't have it. Either way, I bought my first Darkcoins in march 2014 for .55 cents because of the privacy focus not masternodes. You or anyone else could have bought cheap dash back then too, hell you could have bought around a year ago for ~$2. Sorry you missed out and are now butthurt. Stop complaining and Buy now before you have to pay $100 a year from now. Dump your monero, buy Dash, thank me later. it seems nobody here is able to provide any evidence of Evan sharing the "masternode concept" before and a month after Xcoin launch |
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OMFG. You can quit hurting your brain with making up arguments like these and just reply with "I don't like Dash" to every post. This will deliver the same amount of information 1. There is zero information on them breaking CoinJoin either so it doesn't prove anything. I assume they just work together with honeypot mixer operators or use some flaws in certain implementations. If there are some known flaws in Dash privacy implementation, post them here. 2. I agree, it's not perfect, but it is as easy as it gets. If thinking several hours ahead and making 2 extra mouse clicks is "lame-ass" for you then I can't help you and you better not use crypto at all. And you must already be having trouble with planning your personal finances using regular money. 3. Changing the topic to instamine means you agree that "deceptively hidden" was not true, ok  But you can quote Evan telling about MNs to prove that he was hiding them again, it's fun. The instamine may have been intentional, maybe not. But hiding information on masternodes? WTF? 1. There is zero information on them breaking CoinJoin either so it doesn't prove anything. I assume they just work together with honeypot mixer operators or use some flaws in certain implementations. If there are some known flaws in Dash privacy implementation, post them here. based from the article i've posted it was a federal agent who knows stuff (mix/obfuscate bitcoins) who got caught, DASH and private send is a fork of bitcoin technologies, it is time for "non-fork" technologies to dominate the privacy sector of crypto currencies. what i'm posting here are "insights" not a hack or crack. 2. I agree, it's not perfect, but it is as easy as it gets. If thinking several hours ahead and making 2 extra mouse clicks is "lame-ass" for you then I can't help you and you better not use crypto at all. And you must already be having trouble with planning your personal finances using regular money. remember i compared DASH to cassette tapes? you remember using them? how difficult is it to get to the 4th track at the middle of the tape? it is just "two clicks" forward and play back to your manual...(against my timing attack ) you bought a 100$ worth of DASH just to spend 80$ worth of DASH? .. you know how absurd this is in the real world adoption? and you wait for two days (variable-could be more days) to spend your anon DASH? ... i say i choose the cassette tape over DASH LOL! i can fast forward to track #4 in just under a minute, now that's fast! LOL! 3. Changing the topic to instamine means you agree that "deceptively hidden" was not true, ok But you can quote Evan telling about MNs to prove that he was hiding them again, it's fun. okay..now don't put words into my mouth... it (masternode concept) was deceptively hidden to accumulate Xcoins for more than a month..and it was also a perfect motive for Evan and co. to orchestrate the instamine. this argument separates my investigation from your criticisms like, "why Evan didn't do the typical copy-paste, hype, pump and dump shitcoin?". |
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...paying guaranteed 8% returns....
....lose their money....
Do I still have to tell you you're fucking retarded or did you notice yourself after you read your own quote? Ponzi schemes "guarantee" profit all the time... until it doesnt happen and the scheme falls apart like Dash will. It is purely paid pumpers selling to greater fools. It's a scheme you fools. I am going to answer this once in case you are just confused about how Dash works and not actually trolling. The Masternode rewards are not fix, all masternodes share 45% of the block rewards, just like all miners share 45% of the block rewards. Thus as more masternodes join the network the rewards go down. Some masternode operators sell their nodes and some new buy. So basically the free market determines the balance and the risk/ return node operators want to take. What about the legality of instamining? Dash is nothing but instamined bullshit anyway. The instamine was an error and most of those coins were sold off by the miners early on since the original XCoin project was an experiment that not many took very seriously to hold and invest. Also the duration of the instamine was not that severe. A real example of a crooked instamine is Bytecoin sold by miners who don't know what Evan and co. plans... Evan plans to make masternodes out of Xcoins even before launching Xcoin, and he kept it secretly and deceptively hidden from the public for 1 month after the release of Xcoin. Also the duration of the instamine was not that severe it's not about the duration, it's about the quantity of coins that were instamined that matters..and then changing the block reward from 84M to 21M and make the loot more valuable. Not even half of the total Dash that can ever be mined has been mined yet. 1.9 million coins were instamined out of just under 7 million now, and 16 or 18 million is the final circulation amount in the end. That instamine was very fast but it was not a death blow in quantity of the total circulation. The fact that an instamine happened sucks, but it has been mitigated and right now the coin has taken many steps to improve and stand out which is why it has value and once Evolution comes you will wish you was holding some to trade at least wow, you speak as if DASH is purely a POW coin..Masternodes get coins too, if 1.9 million coins were instamined, how many coins will that 1.9 million generate as masternodes? DASH is a fork of bitcoin no matter how much it evolve and re-evolve it won't be that good. there is a saying "The fruit doesn't fall very far away from the tree" |
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nothing was implied or promised by Evan for more than a month, but he knows something and the plan is set
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i agree you found a work-around the timing attack, but still you have to follow the lame-ass manual...and as i have mentioned before, the FBI prosecutor found a way around bitcoin mixers, DASH was forked from bitcoin and private send was a fork of coin join...you get the picture? ... DASH privacy was over that's why monero flew above DASH, ZCASH will too.
You seem to agree with me, good He had plans, so what? Did it do any harm, those "evil intentions"? This is not a workaround, this is a system immune to that kind of attacks from the start. Did you read that article yourself? There is zero information on how they do this and whether it is possible for Dash mixer implementation. I wonder how many home appliances did you break not wanting to follow a "lame-ass manual" And learning to use a PC must've been a true hell for you. This explains much, lol. of course there is zero information, it was an interview not some geek laboratory/tutorial stuff. I just said Dash is a fork and private send is a fork...and forking means inheriting what's also in bitcoin and coin join...you didn't get the picture do you? i called it a lame-ass manual because just looking at these is quite funny, you know that is a lame ass technology too. you should mix coins in advance and better not the exact amount you are going to spend privately.
Example: mix a 100 coins if you will spend 80 coins and mix them in Thursday before spending them in Saturday. why some newer technologies called tumblers and mixers, which attempt to obscure the trail of bitcoins as they travel from bitcoin address to bitcoin address, could be unscrambled. now.. back to Evan You seem to agree with me, good He had plans, so what? Did it do any harm, those "evil intentions"? I showed a "MOTIVE" here that shows a good reason to orchestrate the Instamine...what will it prove? (i'll make a quick list for you buddy) - the instamine was not an accident - there will be a "TRUST ISSUE" (i can make another list out of this buddy) - the instamine was indeed orchestrated therefore the argument that majority of DASH masternodes is really in a few hands gets stronger. actually the argument becomes "DASH masternodes are really in much fewer hands" - propaganda ministers TaoOfSaatoshi and Amanda BJ would have to revise the story again but it won't be believable anymore. - if Evan didn't tell the public about the masternodes then (but this is where the money is), what are the things he is not telling the public now? specially now when Evan and shills hypes DASH evolution (where your money is needed to buy DASH)... I'd say "buyer beware" - is DASH a dead end in crypto currency evolution and innovation? of course Evan and co. will not tell the public |
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server PSU's specially the powerful ones aren't available from where i live, i'm doing the 2x PSU setup since 2013. server PSU's aren't "single" in terms of running/troubleshooting the entire power supply, you have to have the break out boards, the step down device from 12v to 5v, the pico adapter that makes server PSU desktop motherboard compatible and that's 4 pieces of stuff. i was planning to buy and ship a server PSU with the 3 other stuff to run it, but then i found a seller in my area selling 130$ for a seasonic platinum 1200W and gold 1250W and about 112-120$ for a seasonic platinum 1000w...bought a bunch, the 1000w i bought is slightly used and the others (2x 1200w and 1x 1250w) are unused.. I'm very happy with the purchase |
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... misleading impression ... i'm no coder/software engineer/programmer but when we conclude in our discussion that this is your work around to get privacy--that's is super lame. i don't need to look at the code/ white paper to know stuff, i just look at the results and it is as clear as day, DASH private send is like the cassette tape in it's dying breath There is nothing misleading there because nothing was implied/promised. Your demagogic approach fails to prove anything. And you seem to agree that timing attack the way you described it is impossible. Good Usability issues is a whole different question and not related to the things we were discussing. But sometimes you really do have to read the manual to use the new tech. nothing was implied or promised by Evan for more than a month, but he knows something and the plan is set--he will make maternodes with a certain amount of coins locked (1000 DASH) and turn it to a HYIP ... and the other tech stuff of course. makes sense why a person/s have to orchestrate an instamine..a perfect motive to grab as many coins as possible and reduce the supply from 84M to 21M... the instamine issue was always portrayed here as an accident...but I'm putting "MOTIVE" on the table here i agree you found a work-around the timing attack, but still you have to follow the lame-ass manual...and as i have mentioned before, the FBI prosecutor found a way around bitcoin mixers, DASH was forked from bitcoin and private send was a fork of coin join...you get the picture? ... DASH privacy was over that's why monero flew above DASH, ZCASH will too. |
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that very last part can be a bit tricky, specially with Dash. yup..or worse stolen  (for the people who knows what's stolen... here's a smile for you ) EDIT: screen-cap this one...the picture speaks louder than words  |
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now...after all this shills appearing around, did anyone of these bitches answered if Evan did really hide the "masternode concept" before launching and after 1 month since this shitcoin is launched?
You do understand that masternodes were a game-theory outgrowth of preventing mixing nodes from being sybil-attacked, right? my question is about DASH beginnings, and when the "marternodes concept" (hoarding and locking 1000 coins per masternode) was deceptively hidden from the public's eye by Evan and co. ... i'm not asking about how these masternodes works. "Deceptively hidden" implies someone asked him about it and he lied. Please produce some proof for this. Otherwise this claim is as accurate as your "timing attack" infographic, which is not. Developers are free to disclose information about their projects when they see fit if not bound by some legal agreement. google deceptively: in a way or to an extent that gives a misleading impression. I said deceptively hidden, not deceptively lied....i'm not implying anything, just take the words as it is.. even after a month since Xcoin is launched and masternode concept is already made public..i can still use the word "deceptively" (meaning: misleading impression ) ---snip---
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To defeat propagation problems, master nodes are elected each new block. They are responsible for being the authority of what goes into the joined transaction each session. This is done in a tamperproof way, but I think it’s not important to the discussion.
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Otherwise this claim is as accurate as your "timing attack" infographic, which is not. you mean this?? That is why you should mix coins in advance and better not the exact amount you are going to spend privately.
i like you to make a manual on that for the newbs and for the next generation of crypto users heheh...like, mix a 100 coins when you are going to spend 80 coins...and oh, mix your coins on thursday before spending them in saturday LOOOOL i'm no coder/software engineer/programmer but when we conclude in our discussion that this is your work around to get privacy--that's is super lame. i don't need to look at the code/ white paper to know stuff, i just look at the results and it is as clear as day, DASH private send is like the cassette tape in it's dying breath |
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now...after all this shills appearing around, did anyone of these bitches answered if Evan did really hide the "masternode concept" before launching and after 1 month since this shitcoin is launched?
You do understand that masternodes were a game-theory outgrowth of preventing mixing nodes from being sybil-attacked, right? my question is about DASH beginnings, and when the "marternodes concept" (hoarding and locking 1000 coins per masternode) was deceptively hidden from the public's eye by Evan and co. ... i'm not asking about how these masternodes works. |
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...paying guaranteed 8% returns....
....lose their money....
Do I still have to tell you you're fucking retarded or did you notice yourself after you read your own quote? Ponzi schemes "guarantee" profit all the time... until it doesnt happen and the scheme falls apart like Dash will. It is purely paid pumpers selling to greater fools. It's a scheme you fools. I am going to answer this once in case you are just confused about how Dash works and not actually trolling. The Masternode rewards are not fix, all masternodes share 45% of the block rewards, just like all miners share 45% of the block rewards. Thus as more masternodes join the network the rewards go down. Some masternode operators sell their nodes and some new buy. So basically the free market determines the balance and the risk/ return node operators want to take. What about the legality of instamining? Dash is nothing but instamined bullshit anyway. The instamine was an error and most of those coins were sold off by the miners early on since the original XCoin project was an experiment that not many took very seriously to hold and invest. Also the duration of the instamine was not that severe. A real example of a crooked instamine is Bytecoin sold by miners who don't know what Evan and co. plans... Evan plans to make masternodes out of Xcoins even before launching Xcoin, and he kept it secretly and deceptively hidden from the public for 1 month after the release of Xcoin. Also the duration of the instamine was not that severe it's not about the duration, it's about the quantity of coins that were instamined that matters..and then changing the block reward from 84M to 21M and make the loot more valuable. |
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oh it's you son, it's you all right. Did Fluffy refund you? This is the 12th time you've needed to get this information removed by the mod from memory? anyways...run along now and get some instructions on what to post. Bad Ceti! Bad! I've had the mermaid on ignore for years now, and you made me see something I must respond to. It (the mermaid thing) claims that the reduction in total supply of coins effected how hard it was to mine back in March 2014. This is not true. The first time it had and effect was in January 2015, where there was a reduction of ~7% of rewards. Ultimately, the reduction in rewards mirrors Bitcoin, only on a smoother scale. It reduces 1/14 of payouts roughly each year and Bitcoin reduces by half every 4 years. The calculations are basically the same after 4 years with Dash. But regarding mining in March, 2 months after launch, there was no change caused by the vote to reduce mining rewards ~7% each year. wow! after all this time and you become a legendary, legendary loudmouth, legendary shill, legendary liar... topic: "Darkcoin reward schedule vote" author: Evan Duffield thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525093.0note: don't go in the water with the mermaid, you'll just get drowned with facts bitch now...after all this shills appearing around, did anyone of these bitches answered if Evan did really hide the "masternode concept" before launching and after 1 month since this shitcoin is launched? |
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