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2721  Economy / Economics / Germany urges global minimum tax for digital giants on: October 21, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
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Frankfurt am Main (AFP) - German Finance Minister Olaf Scholz said in an interview for publication Sunday he backed a global minimum fiscal regime for multinationals as Europe looks to levy tax notably on US tech giants.

"We need a minumum tax rate valid globally which no state can get out of (applying)," Scholz, a social democrat in conservative Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government, told the "Welt am Sonntag" weekly.

Europe is trying to devise a strategy to tax profits from the likes of Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple and digital platforms such as YouTube and Airbnb which currently manage to keep fiscal exposure to a bare minimum.

Digital platforms "aggravate a problem which we know well from globalisation and which we are trying to counter -- the shifting of profits to fiscally beneficial regions," said Scholz.

Scholz was last week nonetheless reported not to be convinced by a controversial EU proposal to slap a European tax on US tech giants amid worries it may turn out to be both ineffective and protectionist.

France for a year has rallied EU partners to draw up the tax which Paris says is necessary to ensure tech giants pay their way.

Scholz explained he had launched an initiative designed to help states react to so-called fiscal dumping in support of embryonic OECD plans designed to fight tax transparency and cross-border tax evasion.

"We require coordinated mechanisms which prevent the displacement of revenues to tax havens," said Scholz.

The European Commission, the EU's executive arm, has proposed a European tax on "big tech" with susbstantial digital revenue in Europe, based on overall revenue in Europe and not just profits.

But lead opponent Ireland says a growing number of countries are grumbling about hidden problems with the tax, including that it could inadvertently snag European companies.

There is also concern as to what consequences might flow from such a plan at a time against the backdrop of a potential full-blown EU-US trade war.

Berlin worries that cranking up the ante on trade with the United States by launching what Washington could see as an attack on Silicon Valley's corporate giants may threaten German auto exports.

Germany has already shown some opposition to a French plan to tax tech giants three percent of certain forms of revenue including advertising and sale of personal data.

French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said Thursday he will in the coming days urge EU members to commit to backing a tax.

A March proposal by the Commission includes introducing a tax as a bridge measure until such time as the OECD can roll out a measure which can be applied globally.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/germany-urges-global-minimum-tax-digital-giants-220405598.html

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For anyone who has wondered why US residents are blocked from using many crypto platforms like bitmex, this article could reveal partial reasoning behind that. The key here is whether the EU seeks to exclusively tax only US tech giants. Or whether their taxation policy applies also to non US tech giants like toshiba, sony or samsung. Also whether or not chinese tech firms are taxed could also be relevent.

We might attribute these policies to being intent on the part of a "deep state" to weaken the US economy. Efforts at instigating a war between russia and the united states may also be designed to weaken two dominant world powers so that china can ascend towards becoming the world's dominant superpower.

It might also be explained by nations attempting to spend and tax their way out of debt rather than increasing the efficiency of budgets and spending. Rather than addressing inefficiency, bloat and waste in spending we see efforts at increasing tax revenues, which could easily pan out as being futile and ineffective without efforts also being made to bring spending under control.
2722  Economy / Economics / Re: Watch out Wall Street, Blockchain is Coming: Fmr. JPMorgan Exec. Blythe Masters on: October 21, 2018, 04:59:20 PM
“Supply chains are notoriously complex and inefficient,” Masters said during her London speech. “This is especially true in the metals and mining industry where many operational and commercial practices remain inefficient and antiquated, leading to critical data omissions, security vulnerabilities, expenses, corruption, and unethical provenance.”

I would like to hear her comment upon coca cola's claims years ago that aluminum markets were deliberately manipulated in a profiteering manner inflating the price of aluminum cans far more than it otherwise be. I know there is a school of thought which suggests the complexity and inefficiency she cites is deliberately engineered into supply and distribution chains to artificially raise prices.

In that sense, there could be little or no gains utilized in adopting a blockchain over existing systems where market manipulation hinges strongly upon artificially generated supply shortages and inefficiencies in distribution created to raise the price of assets.

Awhile ago, Warren Buffett commented on how aliens watching us from space may observe people burying and later digging up gold in an effort to manipulate its price and be confounded at how terribly inefficient it is. I think that blockchain is a great technology and offers significant advances over existing tech. In some applications however, relating to markets which are highly manipulated, it may not make much of a difference.
2723  Economy / Economics / Australia's encryption-busting bill also after PINs, passwords on: October 21, 2018, 04:24:27 PM
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The government has raised the prospect of using so-called decryption laws to simply get a provider to turn over a user’s PIN or password to get access to a target’s encrypted communications.

While much of the debate on the Assistance and Access Bill so far has concentrated on the prospect of encryption being weakened, the Department of Home Affairs indicated today encryption may not even be its primary target.

At a joint parliamentary committee hearing, shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus QC noted the bill contained just one reference to encryption in its 171 pages, preferring instead to use an umbrella term “electronic protection”.

“We’ve purposely not used [the term] encryption in the bill because it’s about the framework and access to the issues that encryption causes,” Home Affairs National Security & Law Enforcement Policy Division first assistant secretary Hamish Hansford said.

“The term is much broader than the narrow encryption. It includes things like passwords which get you through an electronic protection to a level of encryption.”

Hansford was supported by Australia's chief domestic spy, ASIO’s director-general Duncan Lewis.

“One of the big distinctions between electronic protection and encryption is that electronic protection is inclusive of things such as a PIN or password,” Lewis said.

This morning’s hearing featured representations from a large cross-section of federal law enforcement agencies and policymakers.

Systemic weakness

Dreyfus also took the government to task over the lack of definition of what constitutes a “systemic weakness or vulnerability” for the purpose of the legislation.

The bill expressly prohibits a “systemic weakness or vulnerability” from being created to satisfy a law enforcement request or technical notice, but never says exactly what that would be.

It appears the government has no intention of defining it for the purposes of the bill, and representatives offered varying takes on what it might mean.

Department of Home Affairs chief Michael Pezzullo said that “no one’s requiring at the enterprise level when you manufacture a device or when you set up a network, that there’s a general and universal way of flicking a switch and all of a sudden rendering encrypted communications clear.”

ASD’s director-general Mike Burgess defined a systemic weakness as “one which would be available to everyone.”

“It’d be one thing to ask for assistance to get access to something but [another for] the action undertaken to provide that in that targeted case [to] jeopardise the information of other people as a result of that action taken,” he sad. “That’s not being asked.”

Home Affairs’ Hamish Hansford said that the systemic weakness provision was added “due to industry concern” and claimed it had been purposely left undefined.

“The industry we’re talking about is broad so to try and define what a systemic weakness is for every individual company relies on an understanding of what their business structures are,” Hansford said.

“What a systemic weakness might be for Apple or Google might not be for Microsoft.”

Pressed by Dreyfus for clarity, Hansford then confirmed that “systemic weakness or vulnerability” had its “ordinary meaning in English”.

“It’s the ordinary meaning,” he said.

“Is it defined very discreetly in the bill? No, because systemic weakness means very many different things to different companies, and companies wanted in the legislation the express provision about systemic weakness.”

Dreyfus quizzed Home Affairs on examples raised by Apple and Cisco of actions they believe could be permissible through the legislation, such as implanting an eavesdropping capability in a target’s smart home speakers.

The panel of agencies largely declined to rule use cases for the law in or out; Hansford noted he would “have to explore” them more to make a determination.

“The answer depends on the company, how they’re structured and how they use their technology,” he said.

Warrant interplay

The government has copped considerable criticism in recent weeks over the lack of judicial oversight of assistance requests and notices that can be served on technology companies under the bill.

But law enforcement agencies returned fire today, saying they intended to use the new powers to get access to information they already had a warrant for.

“The power and authority has already been vested in the agency to [access the information], but the fact is we can’t exercise that power because of technical blockers,” AFP commissioner Andrew Colvin said.

“If we get a search warrant... I don’t then have to get another warrant once I get to the front door before I open the door.

“At the moment, what some submissions suggest is that’s what we should do, whereas I’m saying we’ve already reached a threshold where a federal court judge or member of the AAT [Administrative Appeals Tribunal] has said that is content that you are authorised to get. This is about how we get to it.”

Home Affairs chief Michael Pezzullo said the decryption bill offered more protections than the physical world.

He said that police with lawful authority to enter a premises could simply “ring an accredited locksmith” to get past any security locks on a door.

“What we’re saying with this legislation is not only do you need the warrant, but you need a notice [to get access to encrypted data],” Pezzullo said.

“It’s a double level of authority. The protections provided in this bill are actually greater than what presently exists in the physical world.”

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/australias-encryption-busting-bill-also-after-pins-passwords-514186

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If australia's government is after PINs and passwords, it might not be a massive leap to say that they'll be after crypto currency private keys as well. Such measures could weaken and defeat the private key encryption of crypto currencies like bitcoin. It could also increase the degree to which crypto is confiscated by law enforcement or stolen by hackers and cyber criminals.

Similar precedents were set in the united states under the patriot act. The government said new powers granted under the bill would only be used to fight terrorists and that police would use their new powers responsibly in a reasonable manner. Fast forward a period of years and we've witnessed US police greatly abusing new powers granted to them under the patriot act.

This bill should be opposed and imo people should not trust the state or anyone else to have their own best interests at heart when attempting to pass these types of bills.
2724  Economy / Economics / Re: If you had 10000$ on: October 21, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
Under current market conditions, we have CEO's and major stockholders dumping their holdings in record numbers. On the real estate front, we have owners selling at reduced prices en masse with reports that another real estate crash could be incoming. Crypto may not be the most attractive investment atm. Part of the reason for this involves regulation eliminating some of the advantages crypto investments used to have--things that made them different from traditional investments or catered to demographics which institutional investment firms ignored.

There are markets which could have significant growth potential. Legalized marijuana could be worth a look. Saudi Arabia threatened to raise the price of oil if the west meddle in internal affairs relating to their censoring and murdering of a journalist. If the price of oil increases, some stocks like tesla could stand to benefit, although offhand I couldn't say which stocks would be best positioned to gain from a boost in oil prices. Chinese businesses could be worth shorting if the tariff war continues in earnest and related policies are passed.

Offhand I would say anything that creates large amounts of debt can often be profitable. Example of this, we have massive student loan debt issues--which could mean the businesses and institutions which are owed that debt are good investments. Its known that healthcare in the USA is super expensive and unaffordable--which could translate to healthcare stocks being worth picking up. People have probably heard on the news that the F-35 is extremely overbudget which could translate to lockheed martin stock being a good investment. That might be a negative and somewhat depressing way to look @ things. There definitely could be a significant correlation between large amounts of debt and hideous amounts of profit.

If you're dead set on crypto investment, I saw Tron's (TRX) CEO recently claim to have significant technical advantages over both ETH and EOS.

Its difficult for me to say what's hot and what's not. I really need to put more effort into researching things. Been slacking way too much.
2725  Economy / Economics / Re: Blockchain and carbon credits market. on: October 19, 2018, 12:40:51 PM
Carbon credit market is a billion dollar industry and applying blockchain will be good for both industry.

It might further questionable political agendas and help to grow crypto markets while legitimizing blockchain technology. Aside from that it won't accomplish much.

The reason carbon credits don't work is they fail to address the real factors affecting our climate. Emissions aren't the main concern. The real issue is between 20% and 80% of the world's natural forests being cut down which greatly reduces the earth's capacity to absorb carbon. Trees function as natural carbon sinks, trapping carbon and storing it for many years.

The secondary issue is: drought. Trees absorb water from their roots and evaporate it through their leaves. This evaporated water generates rainfall. Rising occurrence of drought in the world is also linked to deforestation. If you want concrete evidence of this, deforestation of the amazon rainforest in brazil is linked to their drought issues.

The ideal policies to address climate change are: afforestation. Seed bombings. Addressing desertification.

The way policies like carbon credits are issued is also extremely disproportionate. America's business is punished far more severely than business in china, despite chinese business being vastly more polluting and environmentally damaging than american business. In that we could see political angles being revealed in how the establishment chooses to pursue issues relating to climate change.
2726  Economy / Economics / Re: Investor Sentiment on the Cryptocurrency market on: October 19, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
I came on this forum to get answers from the people who have already invested in cryptocurrencies or are actually experimented on this subject. My question to all of you is the following: From your point of view, what could be the factors responsible of sentiment on the cryptocurrency market ?


Earlier this year, there was a poll conducted in an attempt to quantify the percentage of population with current ownership of bitcoin or another crypto currency.

Poll numbers appeared to correlate a higher percentage of bitcoin (or crypto currency ownership) with higher inflation rates and greater risk of economic crisis. Nations like turkey and venezuela which are known to have high rates of fiat currency inflation reported some of the highest rates of crypto ownership in terms of population.

In terms of social issues, the consensus says it takes a long time for people to adjust and adopt change. When it was discovered that fruits could stave off scurvy for sailors on ships, it still took more than 10 years for people to accept that this worked. Its natural to expect a lengthy transition period between current markets and broader acceptance of crypto. With the main determining factor possibly being inflation rates and concern over economic crisis.

Below is a reference for your literary review.   Smiley

https://bitcoinschannel.com/how-currency-crises-are-driving-nations-to-crypto/
2727  Economy / Economics / Re: The production of money... is SCAM! on: October 19, 2018, 12:21:40 PM
There are many interesting points and factoids to emerge as a result of the 2008 financial crisis and the TARP (trouble asset relief program) which followed it. I'll list a few of them for you. This is all from memory and so might not be 100% accurate but will be close.

#1 The federal reserve profited around $40 billion dollars from the loans they made to troubled banks.

#2 Subprime mortgages and OTC derivatives only consisted of roughly 15% of the overall debt banks were liable for. The official explanation citing subprime mortgages could have been a distraction from the real issue which was over leveraged derivatives markets.

#3 The TARP and bank bailout program is still ongoing today with many banks in europe still requiring bail outs.

#4 Current derivatives exposure for banks is measured in trillions of dollars and is much larger than the total GDP of entire nations.

This is all off the top of my head. There are many interesting angles to the crisis that are neglected and mostly ignored within the grand scheme of things.
2728  Economy / Economics / China's Bitcoin Dominance Is Worrying Trump's White House, Pushing It To Ripple on: October 18, 2018, 01:19:42 PM
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China is, by some distance, the undisputed world leader in bitcoin mining — with Chinese mining pools controlling more than 70% of the bitcoin network's collective hash rate, the measuring unit of the processing power of the bitcoin network.

Many in the bitcoin and cryptocurrency industry have expressed concern about how much control this gives China over bitcoin, with the Beijing-based Bitmain Technologies mining more than half the world’s bitcoins.

Now it appears U.S. president Donald Trump's White House is also worrying about China's bitcoin dominance, with a Ripple Labs executive suggesting the U.S. administration is interested in ripple (XRP) adoption to offset China's bitcoin strength.

"The White House in particular seems to be thinking about what it means to have 80% of bitcoin mining taking place in China and a majority of ether mining taking place in China," Ripple Lab's chief strategist, Cory Johnson, said in a wide-ranging interview with crypto-focused magazine Breaker. 

"When you look at XRP, there is no mining, so from a foreign-control aspect or from an environmental aspect, XRP is a very different beast. And in conversations we’ve had with the administration, they seem to get that and think that might matter."

China manufactures most of the world’s bitcoin and cryptocurrency mining equipment and its massive mining farms are supported by the country's cheap electricity prices.

Meanwhile, Ripple Labs controls 60% of the ripple supply, leading to critics of the company and the digital token suggesting it is not decentralized like many other cryptocurrencies.

September was a good month for Ripple Labs and the digital token it created XRP (which is often referred to as ripple).

Ripple's Swell event in San Francisco saw former U.S. president Bill Clinton talk up the possibilities of blockchain and cryptocurrencies and Ripple revealed it had signed up three financial services companies to its new XRP-focused product -- news of which had sent the ripple price up by over 100% earlier in the month.

The three companies – payment providers MercuryFX and Cuallix as well as cooperative financial firm Catalyst Corporate Credit Union – were announced as the first to sign up to xRapid by Ripple Labs CEO Brad Garlinghouse.

Earlier this year, global banking giant Santander launched a blockchain-based application for cross-border foreign exchange built by Ripple Labs — designed to speed up and cut the costs of sending money across borders.

Many are excited by ripple's practical use case, which has seen it work with many of the world's biggest banks and financial service companies to bring cryptocurrency's speed and efficiency to the rather clunky legacy financial systems.

"When I started to meet with people in government and regulators, I had very low expectations," Johnson added. "I have been truly amazed at the open-mindedness, number one. And number two, the smart questions, sometimes even tough questions. There’s clearly a lot of homework going on."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2018/10/16/chinas-bitcoin-dominance-is-worrying-trumps-white-house-and-pushing-it-toward-ripple/

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Does anyone think ripple could eventually become the american supported crypto currency?

I can't say I know much about XRP. Reading this forum, I have read many negative comments on XRP. The estimation of the technology and currency based on forum opinion would appear to range towards disapproval, rather than the opposite.

If the USA were looking to endorse a crypto currency are there better options than Ripple? What alt do you forsee as representing the ideal cryptocurrency for this role?

It is interesting that there appears to be some research and discussion on this occurring @ high levels. I wonder if we might see improvements in economic, financial and foreign policy as a result.
2729  Economy / Economics / Re: Bullish news: Fidelity made it easier for hedge funds to invest in crypto on: October 18, 2018, 11:40:52 AM
US crypto markets would appear to be structured to conform to a centralized format. A stark contrast to how crypto business is conducted in the rest of the world. I think people should question reasons for this. Is there a secret deep state agenda to dethrone the USA as the world's dominant superpower and replace it with china? Would the world be better off if this occurred? Is this something people would like to see happen?

I think crypto is being regulated in a way which reduces some of its competitive edge and makes it more like traditional investments. One example of this is the ICO market which used to offer investments to poor and middle class demographics. This catering to the less wealthy gave ICOs a high growth potential as they supported markets which went largely ignored by large establishment investment firms. Now only accredited investors can invest in ICOs which eliminates this advantage ICOs used to have over traditional investment vehicles.

Gradually markets are shifting in significant ways which are being ignored or neglected.
2730  Economy / Economics / Re: China Threatens Overseas Tax Havens, Will Investors Flock to Crypto? on: October 16, 2018, 10:37:32 AM
I think china is desperate after tariffs introduced on their trade by Trump. Now they're resorting to more desperate measures. This could illustrate one key issue with socialism whereby the most intelligent or creative individuals are typically not appointed to positions of power. Instead the party rewards loyalty. This can leave state hierarchies lacking in terms of problem solving capacities when it comes to unforeseen circumstances.

Studies claim taxation is a counter intuitive process. Raising taxes and introducing harsher restrictions on taxation can increase incidence of tax avoidance based on the principle that the more unfair taxes are deemed, the more unlikely people are to pay them. This might be illustrated in Trump's tax plans whereby overall tax revenues were increased via introducing tax cuts to corporations.

This type of heavy handed authoritarian approach whereby totalitarian states *crackdown* on tax havens can have significant long term negative implications in terms of alienating investors and the class of demographic which contributes significantly to economic investment and growth.

AFAIK china and the existence of its "great firewall" means internet anonymization services like VPNs and TOR are standard fare for many businesses and individuals operating out of china. Due to china's media being state owned its difficult to say what success or failure china has experienced over the long term with these types of programs or ones which attempt to crackdown on things like tax shelters. I would have to guess most chinese saw these types of authoritarian measures coming since Xi Jinpeng was appointed "dictator for life" over china and must have prepared accordingly. Who can say for sure.

Crypto is certainly one option available. China's appetite for business and growth could easily lead to under the table arrangements whereby crypto is exchanged for other currency, despite state imposed bans or crackdowns. Its difficult to say what shape the future will take, someone once said the best way to predict the future is to invent it. Lacking this option, we'll have to wait awhile to see how things pan out.
2731  Economy / Economics / Re: Sears, the store that changed America, declares bankruptcy on: October 16, 2018, 10:28:22 AM
Sears wiped out many retailers with its innovative mail order business on its way to becoming successful and established.

The same way amazon is wiping sears out now with its internet order business. Perhaps in the distant future another retailer will innovate one step beyond amazon and wipe them out, too. We may simply be witnessing evolution and innovation of the business cycle. It can be a brutal and cold thing. Someone reigns as king of the mountain until another younger, smarter, and hungrier out-innovates them and eventually dethrones them. Then there is a new king of the mountain.

The same thing may be happening in many different sectors, if not as visible or publicly known. There are many shifts occurring in terms of industry.

The only strange thing I see about this is what appears to be an anti-capitalist agenda being pushed. The media is taking a stance whereby large corporations like amazon are 100% guilty of everything and governments are 100% innocent. The media never criticizes the government for anything unless they're attacking Trump which is a strong pro socialist narrative.
2732  Economy / Economics / Justin Sun Touts TRON Odyssey 3.1: ‘200x Faster Vs. ETH, 100x Cheaper Vs. EOS’ on: October 16, 2018, 08:51:43 AM
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Will TRON Outscale and Outprice the Competition?

It has been a great news week for TRON (TRX), which announced a new partnership with BitTorrent, new fiat pairings on Bitfinex, and a big update to its platform.

This news has made TRX one of the biggest gainers in market price this month.

A New Contender
TRON has been a largely divisive project since its introduction to the altcoin market last September. TRON is building a platform for the development and launching of decentralized applications (dApps), similar to Ethereum and EOS.

The project garnered a great deal of attention when, at the height of the 2017 bull run, TRON’s market price jumped from $0.03 to $0.35 in less than a week. The price subsequently took a nose dive with the rest of the market in 2018 and has slipped back to a year-to-date low of under $0.02.

The project has been the topic of controversy in the past, with accusations from other developers that TRON had copied large amounts of code in building its platform and copied other information from competing ICOs’ whitepapers — making it seem like just another overhyped and overpriced vaporware project.

TRON, however, has pressed on, completing a successful mainnet launch and token swap in June. It has since made some new developments that are breathing new life into the platform.

The King Of Announcements
TRON CEO Justin Sun loves to make announcements, and he’s made quite a few this past week that are looking good for the project.

The team recently announced new fiat pairs on cryptocurrency exchange giant Bitfinex, adding pairs for JPY, EUR, and GBP.

TRON also unveiled its partnership with BitTorrent for a project they are calling “Project Atlas” to create a new decentralized peer-to-peer sharing network. The BitTorrent teams original client, ‘µTorrent Web,’ already has over 100 million active monthly users, and TRON wants to connect the client with TRON’s decentralized network on the blockchain.

In a Tweet made by Sun earlier today, he announced:



With successful smart contracts and dApps launching on TRON’s mainnet, it remains in the running to be crowned top-dog of the decentralized application platform arena.

TRON’s (TRX) market price has reacted favorably this past month, gaining over 50 percent. It is hot on the heels of bumping Monero out of the number 10 spot on Coinmarketcap’s cryptocurrency rankings by market cap.


https://beincrypto.com/justin-sun-touts-tron-odyssy/

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I meant to post this a week ago when this story was first published but forgot. Better late than never?   Smiley

Tron would appear to have fundamental advantages over ethereum and EOS. This doesn't say much about its overall value. Whether it offers an API friendly to developers or implements effective policies attractive to devs. It doesn't answer questions relating to whether there is a market for apps based upon crypto tokens. There are many unanswered questions here and investment can invoke a lot of research and high end critical thinking process to breakdown valuation models.

Still, with all the emphasis on "scaling" it is possible these claimed advantages will translate to greater market value in the future and this asset (Tron) may be undervalued. And so I hope this article is worth something to someone. I don't devote as much time or effort into researching alts as I would like but maybe I can get a start here.
2733  Economy / Economics / Re: Global Financial Meltdown Imminent? on: October 14, 2018, 10:26:28 AM
How can one prepare for this please?

People are usually reliant upon jobs and government support. During times of economic crisis, workers are laid off, the number of available working hours decreases, economic investment dwindles, jobs become more scarce and difficult to find. Many business ventures fail and file for bankruptcy due to decreased sales and consumers, which in turn kills off more jobs. It can become a vicious cycle. Not having a savings and living paycheck to paycheck can be devastating. These negative circumstances coupled with tax hikes, price inflation of real estate/rent and food price inflation can make things difficult, even if there is no financial or economic meltdown.

The best method of preparation for economic and financial crisis may be to find ways to become less reliant on the private sector and on state programs. This can be extremely difficult to achieve. Having some type of side hustle and not relying 100% on a job or the government for support could be the way to go. That way people have something to fall back on.
2734  Economy / Economics / Re: Data is the new oil energy source on: October 14, 2018, 08:54:16 AM
Bronze was the hot commodity during the bronze age. Iron in the iron age. Steel in the steel age. Gold during the gold rush. Oil in its respective era(they don't call it "black gold" for nothing). Industrial advancements during the industrial revolution.

What is the hot commodity during an information age? Perhaps: data. Information. We see tech giants like google, facebook and twitter emerge despite not having much in terms of tangible physical assets. They thrive on their capacity to catalogue, index, search and utilize data. Concepts of "social capital" emerge which change the way we think about things.

I would be interested to know what people believe the next hot commodity will be in the era succeeding an information age. Will it be defined in terms of AI? Perhaps some other innovation or breakthrough?
2735  Economy / Economics / Re: Beginning of the end for the stockmarket on: October 12, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
I cant see the article (hit my free limit).   Roll Eyes

AFAIK many of Elon Musk's issues stem from big oil investors recognising the danger the electric car poses to long term oil stock holdings. To protect their pro big oil interests, they hired journalists to publish anti Elon Musk news stories and spam the public with a massive amount of anti Elon Musk media. They may even have paid tesla workers to sabotage tesla operations, engage in corporate espionage and publicly fabricate false news stories to slander tesla/space x/musk in an effort to kill tesla's stock price.

That's where many of Elon Musk's issues appear to stem from.

I think many of us also are prone towards over-estimating our productivity, while under-estimating the obstacles we face. Elon Musk may have been too optimistic with some of his projections. His expectations of robot based manufacture were too optimistic. As a result he painted himself into a bit of a corner in terms of production estimates for his new car.
2736  Economy / Economics / Re: How will blockchain affect the taxing system? on: October 12, 2018, 10:10:25 AM
There are many wealthy families in the united states. The Rockefellers, the JP Morgans, the Trumps. With the Estate Tax (aka Death Tax) being 40% one may wonder how wealthy families maintain their familial wealth if they pay a 40% tax every generation. The most simple explanation is: none of them pay the 40% estate tax. Many of us were aware of this, long before it was mainstream news. It is old information and not particularly news worthy.

Part of the problem with taxation is those living in poverty, and those in higher income brackets up to the middle class, are losing political and social influence. The scales are tipping in favor of one percenters, which in turn increases their influence while diminishing the influence of all others. Tax laws shift in favor of one percenters, to the detriment of all other social classes, as society feels the implications of this paradigm shift.

Bitcoin's open ledger could make it harder to hide lump sums of cash from tax authorities. This doesn't necessarily represent progress however as taxation regulatory policies are designed to reflect favortism towards wealthier demographics, who wield vastly more monetary and political influence.

To fix tax laws requires shifting influence in the opposite direction. Such a thing is not easy to achieve.
2737  Economy / Economics / Universal Basic Income Is Silicon Valley’s Latest Scam on: October 11, 2018, 10:26:59 AM
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The plan is no gift to the masses, but a tool for our further enslavement

In 2016, I was invited to Uber’s headquarters (then in San Francisco) to talk about the failings of the digital economy and what could be done about it. Silicon Valley firms are the only corporations I know that ask for private talks for free. They don’t even cover cab fare. Like Google and Facebook, Uber figures that the chance to address their developers and executives offers intellectuals the rare privilege of influencing the digital future or, maybe more crassly, getting their books mentioned on the company blog.

For authors of business how-to books, it makes perfect sense. Who wouldn’t want to brag that Google is taking their business advice? For me, it was a little different. Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus was about the inequity embedded in the digital economy: how the growth of digital startups was draining the real economy and making it harder for people to participate in creating value, make any money, or keep up with rising rents.

I took the gig. I figured it was my chance to let my audience know, in no uncertain terms, that Uber was among the worst offenders, destroying the existing taxi market not through creative destruction but via destructive destruction. They were using the power of their capital to undercut everyone, extract everything, and establish a scorched-earth monopoly. I went on quite a tirade.

To my surprise, the audience seemed to share my concerns. They’re not idiots, and the negative effects of their operations were visible everywhere they looked. Then an employee piped up with a surprising question: “What about UBI?”

Wait a minute, I thought. That’s my line.

Up until that moment, I had been an ardent supporter of universal basic income (UBI), that is, government cash payments to people whose employment would no longer be required in a digital economy. Contrary to expectations, UBI doesn’t make people lazy. Study after study shows that the added security actually enables people to take greater risks, become more entrepreneurial, or dedicate more time and energy to improving their communities.

So what’s not to like?

Shouldn’t we applaud the developers at Uber — as well as other prominent Silicon Valley titans like Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes, bond investor Bill Gross, and Y Combinator’s Sam Altman — for coming to their senses and proposing we provide money for the masses to spend? Maybe not. Because to them, UBI is really just a way for them to keep doing business as usual.

Uber’s business plan, like that of so many other digital unicorns, is based on extracting all the value from the markets it enters. This ultimately means squeezing employees, customers, and suppliers alike in the name of continued growth. When people eventually become too poor to continue working as drivers or paying for rides, UBI supplies the required cash infusion for the business to keep operating.

When it’s looked at the way a software developer would, it’s clear that UBI is really little more than a patch to a program that’s fundamentally flawed.

The real purpose of digital capitalism is to extract value from the economy and deliver it to those at the top. If consumers find a way to retain some of that value for themselves, the thinking goes, you’re doing something wrong or “leaving money on the table.”


Back in the 1500s, residents of various colonized islands developed a good business making rope and selling it to visiting ships owned by the Dutch East India Company. Sensing an opportunity, the executives of what was then the most powerful corporation the world had ever seen obtained a charter from the king to be the exclusive manufacturer of rope on the islands. Then they hired the displaced workers to do the job they’d done before. The company still spent money on rope — paying wages now instead of purchasing the rope outright — but it also controlled the trade, the means of production, and the market itself.

Walmart perfected the softer version of this model in the 20th century. Move into a town, undercut the local merchants by selling items below cost, and put everyone else out of business. Then, as sole retailer and sole employer, set the prices and wages you want. So what if your workers have to go on welfare and food stamps.

Now, digital companies are accomplishing the same thing, only faster and more completely. Instead of merely rewriting the law like colonial corporations did or utilizing the power of capital like retail conglomerates do, digital companies are using code. Amazon’s control over the retail market and increasingly the production of the goods it sells, has created an automated wealth-extraction platform that the slave drivers who ran the Dutch East India Company couldn’t have even imagined.

Of course, it all comes at a price: Digital monopolists drain all their markets at once and more completely than their analog predecessors. Soon, consumers simply can’t consume enough to keep the revenues flowing in. Even the prospect of stockpiling everyone’s data, like Facebook or Google do, begins to lose its allure if none of the people behind the data have any money to spend.

To the rescue comes UBI. The policy was once thought of as a way of taking extreme poverty off the table. In this new incarnation, however, it merely serves as a way to keep the wealthiest people (and their loyal vassals, the software developers) entrenched at the very top of the economic operating system. Because of course, the cash doled out to citizens by the government will inevitably flow to them.

Think of it: The government prints more money or perhaps — god forbid — it taxes some corporate profits, then it showers the cash down on the people so they can continue to spend. As a result, more and more capital accumulates at the top. And with that capital comes more power to dictate the terms governing human existence.

Meanwhile, UBI also obviates the need for people to consider true alternatives to living lives as passive consumers. Solutions like platform cooperatives, alternative currencies, favor banks, or employee-owned businesses, which actually threaten the status quo under which extractive monopolies have thrived, will seem unnecessary. Why bother signing up for the revolution if our bellies are full? Or just full enough?

Under the guise of compassion, UBI really just turns us from stakeholders or even citizens to mere consumers. Once the ability to create or exchange value is stripped from us, all we can do with every consumptive act is deliver more power to people who can finally, without any exaggeration, be called our corporate overlords.

No, income is nothing but a booby prize. If we’re going to get a handout, we should demand not an allowance but assets. That’s right: an ownership stake.

The wealth gap in the United States has less to do with the difference between people’s salaries than their assets. For instance, African-American families earn a little more than half the salary, on average, that white American families do. But that doesn’t account for the massive wealth gap between whites and blacks. More important to this disparity is the fact that the median wealth of white households in America is 20 times that of African-American households. Even African-Americans with decent income tend to lack the assets required to participate in savings accounts, business investments, or the stock market.

So even if an African-American child who has grown up poor gets free admission to college, they will still likely lag behind due to a lack of assets. After all, those assets are what make it possible for a white classmate to take a “gap” year to gain experience before hitting the job market or take an unpaid internship or have access to a nice apartment in Williamsburg to live in while knocking out that first young adult novel on spec, touring with a band, opening a fair trade coffee bar, or running around to hackathons. No amount of short-term entitlements substitute for real assets because once the money is spent, it’s gone — straight to the very people who already enjoy an excessive asset advantage.

Had Andrew Johnson not overturned the original reconstruction proposal for freed slaves to be given 40 acres and a mule as reparation, instead of simply allowing them to earn wage labor on former slaveowners’ lands, we might be looking at a vastly less divided America today.

Likewise, if Silicon Valley’s UBI fans really wanted to repair the economic operating system, they should be looking not to universal basic income but universal basic assets, first proposed by Institute for the Future’s Marina Gorbis. As she points out, in Denmark — where people have public access to a great portion of the nation’s resources — a person born into a poor family is just as likely to end up as wealthy as peers born into a wealthier household.

To venture capitalists seeking to guarantee their fortunes for generations, such economic equality sounds like a nightmare and unending, unnerving disruption. Why create a monopoly just to give others the opportunity to break it or, worse, turn all these painstakingly privatized assets back into a public commons?

The answer, perhaps counterintuitively, is because all those assets are actually of diminishing value to the few ultra-wealthy capitalists who have accumulated them. Return on assets for American corporations has been steadily declining for the last 75 years. It’s like a form of corporate obesity. The rich have been great at taking all the assets off the table but really bad at deploying them. They’re so bad at investing or building or doing anything that puts money back into the system that they are asking governments to do this for them — even though the corporations are the ones holding all the real assets.

Like any programmer, the people running our digital companies embrace any hack or kluge capable of keeping the program running. They don’t see the economic operating system beneath their programs, and so they are not in a position to challenge its embedded biases much less rewrite that code.

As appealing as it may sound, UBI is nothing more than a way for corporations to increase their power over us, all under the pretense of putting us on the payroll. It’s the candy that a creep offers a kid to get into the car or the raise a sleazy employer gives a staff member who they’ve sexually harassed. It’s hush money.

If the good folks of Uber or any other extractive digital enterprise really want to reprogram the economy to everyone’s advantage and guarantee a sustainable supply of wealthy customers for themselves, they should start by tweaking their own operating systems. Instead of asking the government to make up the difference for unlivable wages, what about making one’s workers the owners of the company? Instead of kicking over additional, say, 10% in tax for a government UBI fund, how about offering a 10% stake in the company to the people who supply the labor? Or another 10% to the towns and cities who supply the roads and traffic signals? Not just a kickback or tax but a stake.

Whether its proponents are cynical or simply naive, UBI is not the patch we need. A weekly handout doesn’t promote economic equality — much less empowerment. The only meaningful change we can make to the economic operating system is to distribute ownership, control, and governance of the real world to the people who live in it.


https://medium.com/s/powertrip/universal-basic-income-is-silicon-valleys-latest-scam-fd3e130b69a0

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A different perspective on UBI. If diversity is important, perhaps a diversity of opinions and views is also important. Posting this to represent demographics critical on UBI and to perhaps consider something different than what the mainstream media typically publishes on this topic.

That said the author makes interesting points on UBI. His overview and perspective is difficult to argue with. He claims that UBI serves as an integral part of wealth redistribution which allows the rich to become richer, while conversely making poor demographics, poorer. His perspective appears to be one where UBI doesn't fix any real issues in terms of wealth or wage inequality society faces. Instead it merely allows unfair or potentially immoral business practices to run rampant. Further centralizing markets and further increasing wealth and wage inequality beyond what would normally be possible.

Anyways, what are everyones thoughts on this?
2738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $5000 to $80000 in 12 months with 3% compounding strategy on: October 11, 2018, 10:20:26 AM
Compounding interest can be a beautiful thing. How often do you project interest to compound to hit $80k? Have you tried something like this, before? What were your results?

One point to consider is interest will never truly compound due to betting limits. At a certain point 3% of your bankroll will become greater than maximum bet limits offered by bookies. Offhand people will probably think that $5,000 to $80,000 on 3% compounding interest is unworkable under real world conditions and they would be correct to think so due to limitations inherent in bet limits, etc.

Note, bankroll was only $600 or so, I will consider the experiment a huge, huge success if I could double that in a year.

I would be curious to know your current ROI % (return on investment).

In the past, the highest I achieved gambling on sports was 16 times my initial bankroll. I got overconfident, lost discipline and went *all in* on what turned out to be a losing call. Earnings and profiteering potential are so great it can be intoxicating. There could be a correlation between big wins and big losses. lol
2739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / SEC tightens the noose on ICO-funded startups on: October 11, 2018, 09:44:23 AM
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Hundreds of startups that did token sales are finding out they’re in violation of securities law— including many that were sure they did it the right way.

During the past few months, the Securities and Exchange Commission has significantly widened its crackdown on certain initial coin offerings, putting hundreds of cryptocurrency startups at risk.

The SEC sent out a slew of initial information-seeking subpoenas at the start of 2018. Now the agency has returned to many of those companies, and subpoenaed many more—focusing on those that failed to properly ensure they sold their token exclusively to accredited investors.

The agency is exerting pressure on many of those companies to settle their cases. In response, dozens of companies have quietly agreed to refund investor money and pay a fine. But many startups that have been subpoenaed say they are left in the dark struggling to satisfy the SEC’s demands, and are uncertain of how others are handling it, according to conversations with more than 15 industry sources as part of a joint investigation by Yahoo Finance and Decrypt.

The sources, many of whom are employees of companies that were subpoenaed by the SEC or are attorneys for those companies, requested anonymity, because the SEC restricts them from discussing the matter.


ICO funding, which began in 2014, exploded in popularity last year as an alternative method to fund a cryptocurrency startup, rather than the traditional venture capital route. In an ICO, a startup sells its own digital token, typically for later use in the ecosystem the startup plans to build; buyers pay for the token in the cryptocurrencies bitcoin or ether. In the majority of cases, companies that do ICOs have not yet launched any product. Think of an ICO as buying chips for use in a casino that hasn’t been built yet.

It is hard to say precisely how many ICOs occurred during the past four years. ICO Alert says it has tracked more than 5,000 but publicly displays only 3,400 “legitimate” ones. CoinDesk, a leading bitcoin trade publication, lists only 800 in the past two years. More than $20 billion has been raised in ICOs to date, but the ICO boom peaked in January 2018. Concerns over the legality of token sales have had a chilling effect.

The core issue now for every company that did an ICO: Was its “token” a security? And if it was, did the company register its offering with the SEC, or ensure that it qualified for an exemption?  

Many of the companies that did ICOs called their offering something else, such as a “utility token” or a “SAFT” (Simple Agreement for Future Tokens, an ICO method in which investors buy a reservation for tokens yet to be launched), but the SEC does not care about those labels. It weighs each ICO on a case-by-case basis.

In July 2017, the SEC announced that it viewed the tokens offered by The DAO, an ICO that raised more than $150 million in 2016, as securities. Then, at a Senate hearing in February, SEC Chairman Jay Clayton said, “I believe every ICO I’ve seen is a security.”

William Hinman, the SEC’s director of corporation finance, provided further clarity in June at Yahoo Finance’s All Markets Summit when he said ether does not appear to be a security, but suggested that most ICOs are securities offerings, and that, “calling the transaction an initial coin offering, or ‘ICO,’ or a sale of a ‘token,’ will not take it out of the purview of the U.S. securities laws.”

Any U.S. company offering a security must register its offering with the SEC, or qualify for an exemption. Amid the ICO boom, virtually none have registered a security offering. Thus, they must meet an exemption. The SEC exemptions include selling only to investors outside the U.S., or selling only to accredited investors, which are individuals with income higher than $200,000 in each of the past two years or a minimum net worth of $1 million.

Ensuring that investors are fully accredited requires, as the SEC spells out plainly, “reviewing documentation, such as W-2s, tax returns, bank and brokerage statements, credit reports and the like.” In other words, it involves a lot more than just checking a box.

Many companies that thought they did properly limit their ICO to accredited investors are now finding out that in the eyes of the SEC, they didn’t.

Robert Cohen, chief of the cyber unit in the SEC’s enforcement division, likens it to a spectrum. When the SEC calls up a company that did an ICO and asks how the company limited its ICO to certain investors, “Some companies tell us the name of the law firm that advised them, explain the know-your-customer procedures they followed, and show us an investor list that is limited to accredited investors,” he says. “At the other end of the spectrum, some point to a website statement about limiting the ICO to some investors, and possibly checkboxes, and that’s it.”

Some of the people particularly surprised to be in trouble are those who did their ICO as a SAFT, a designation that was intended specifically to be more compliant with securities law.

But some onlookers have little sympathy. Cardozo Law School professor Aaron Wright, who co-authored a paper that questioned the legality of the SAFT model, says, “There could have been other ways they could have structured it, like selling a digital good to people who actually wanted to use it, instead of predominately to speculative investors. They could have talked to the SEC first. I think the law was pretty clear that if you sell something to an investor, it’s likely a security—folks just wanted to engage in token sales, so they just kind of flouted it.”

In December 2017, the SEC shut down the $15 million ICO of a startup called Munchee and forced the company to refund the buyers. Munchee had advertised that its token would go up in value; promises of financial returns are a red flag for the SEC.

In January 2018, the SEC shut down the ICO of AriseBank, which had raised $600 million of a $1 billion goal, for falsely stating it had bought an FDIC-insured bank. In April 2018, the SEC shut down the $32 million ICO of Centra, which had been promoted by boxer Floyd Mayweather and rapper DJ Khaled, for using “misleading marketing” and “paid celebrities” to make false claims. Last month, the SEC charged TokenLot, which called itself an “ICO Superstore,” with being an unregistered broker-dealer, and charged Crypto Asset Management (CAM) with false marketing and being an unregistered investment company.


Those are just some examples that the SEC announced publicly.

Behind closed doors, many more negotiations are underway. The SEC has gotten dozens of ICOs to refund buyers and pay a fine, simply by reaching out and asking questions.

When the SEC reaches out to companies that did an ICO, it is usually through the company’s law firm. The SEC requests a vast trove of documents related to the ICO. Yahoo Finance and Decrypt have obtained communication that the law firm Cooley, which represented many ICOs, sent to one client after an SEC subpoena. The attorney letter warns, “The SEC is likely examining whether [client] should be considered a security under the U.S. federal securities laws… For the purposes of this preservation hold, ‘document’ is defined very broadly.”

Such language is leading many companies to refund their ICOs rather than attempt a legal fight. As one source at a company that got subpoenaed says, “The last thing we want is a press release they put out with only our name on it.”

Refunding tokens
The Fan-Controlled Football League (FCFL), the first ICO to be listed on the mainstream crowdfunding platform Indiegogo (through a partnership with MicroVentures), is one example. FCFL raised $5.2 million last year. In August of this year, MicroVentures quietly returned the money to the initial buyers.

There’s just one problem with refunding. If an ICO gathered the proper information on its buyers, and hadn’t yet launched its token, returning the money is doable. But for ICOs that have launched their token, refunding is not so simple.

“It’s not even really possible,” says Jony Levin, CEO of Chainalysis. “In a lot of cases people bought tokens in ICOs through exchange accounts at places like Kraken. So you can’t just send tokens back to the address you got them from, because that’s an exchange address. If ICOs are made to refund buyers, it will have to be similar to the Mt. Gox case: you make a public announcement and people have to prove they were a contributor.”

As a way to pacify the SEC, some ICOs are attempting to convert their utility token to a security token. Iconomi, which raised more than $10 million in an ICO, is one example. In a blog post this month, Iconomi wrote that its token holders, “will be able to exchange their ICN tokens for tokenized shares in a joint-stock company presented as eICN tokens. This new structure brings legal clarity for all stakeholders.”

Filecoin, Blockstack, Props, Origin, and TrustToken, the five ICOs that have listed on the platform CoinList, all sold only to accredited investors, and none have launched their actual token yet. A source close to Blockstack says the company sees its token as a utility, but out of caution, chose to treat it like a security and comply with all the relevant securities laws.

“Right now it feels like a massive canyon”

All of this SEC action may sound like very bad news for ICOs, but many in the industry have a more optimistic take: regulatory clarity will bring growth. In addition, more and more companies considering a token sale are now reaching out to the SEC proactively.

“I do think that businesses on the up-and-up can navigate through it, and that in just two or three years we’ll have clarity, and we’ll look back on this time as a speed bump,” says the CEO of a well-known tech company who has closely watched the ICO space. “Of course, if you’re a company that is dealing with an SEC subpoena, right now it doesn’t feel like a speed bump, right now it feels like a massive canyon.”

The lingering lack of clarity has driven a group of crypto companies, led by Ripple, to hire D.C. lobbyists to push Congress on behalf of the industry.

From the SEC’s perspective, there is no lack of clarity. The sniff tests are the same as they have been for decades. The SEC is applying the same securities laws to ICOs that it always applies.

“Everybody’s holding their breath for the SEC to create some kind of coin rule, and they’re not going to,” says a securities attorney at one high-profile Silicon Valley firm. “They’re applying the same laws, the same statutes, the same rules, to stocks and bonds and everything else.”

In other words, there’s even a lack of clarity around whether there is a lack of regulatory clarity.

https://decryptmedia.com/2018/10/10/sec-tightens-the-noose-on-ico-funded-startups/

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The biggest development here appears to be the SEC limiting ICO token purchases to only accredited investors who make more than $100k per year or have a net worth of $1 million usd.

2nd biggest development is this form of regulation cracking down on ICOs likely only taking place inside the united states. Europe, asia, africa and other nations will probably get a free pass with these limits only being imposed upon americans.

The media claims this regulation will increase growth. We could see the opposite with ICOs now being restricted from selling tokens to lower income demographics. Essentially what the SEC has done here is limit ICOs from being sold to the poor, which is one of the main initiatives that fueled its growth in the 1st place.
2740  Economy / Economics / Re: Today is 10/10/18, the rise of the Phoenix according to The Economist on: October 11, 2018, 09:25:56 AM
It might help to remember. Centralized abstracts such as *one world currencies* serve primarily as control mechanisms based on the observation that it is much easier for central bankers to control a single currency than it would be for them to try to control thousands of different currencies utilized by nations of the world.

The same precedent applies to one world governments. It is much easier to lobby, influence or bribe a single body of politicians in control over the entire world than to attempt the same thing with a different body of politics for every nation on earth.

The implications are myriad. Many different motivations and externalities can be extrapolated from conditions mentioned.
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