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1721  Economy / Economics / Re: knowledge and Capital which is Very important in Business or Investment? on: July 23, 2021, 11:33:27 PM
What matters the most is to always be learning, improving and hustling. Knowledge and money come and go. What's hardest to maintain is to always keep trying and stay motivated. Some people are good at making everything funny and fun. You still see them smiling and laughing, even if they're putting in 14 hour work days. Which seems to take the effort and strain out of it.

Attitude, work ethic and hustle can be used to acquire knowledge and money. But knowledge and money can't be traded for attitude, work ethic or hustle. People can't buy their way to having a winning mentality. And its not something that can be earned through knowledge or experience. But it can be developed and improved through practice.
1722  Other / Off-topic / Re: Quantum Computing Hype is Bad for Science on: July 23, 2021, 11:15:40 PM
I am guessing that the media is overhyping Quantum Computing for their own benefit.




There is nothing a quantum computer can do more cost effectively than a CPU/GPU/ASIC currently on the market.

If quantum computers were superior technology in 2021, crypto miners would simply buy and use them. The market is the best indicator of value.

Superior technology makes previous technology obsolete. People stopped using the pentium 1 when the pentium 2, 3 and 4 were released. The same trend applies if quantum computers were real.

Quantum computing is an overrated sideshow attraction IMO. Data centers don't use it. Supercomputing efforts don't care about it. Bitcoin miners couldn't care less. No one uses it or is excited about it as it brings nothing of value. There isn't anything that proves the technology is real, or that it can even exist.
1723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bare Knuckle FC odds on: July 23, 2021, 11:06:24 PM
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/bare-knuckle-fc/

Mybookie AG has odds for it.

They support deposits in ripple, ethereum, bitcoin cash, litecoin and bitcoin.

The only downside is the greater number of steps to make an account.

I think Paige Vanzant will win.
1724  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank of Nigeria to launch digital currency Oct 1, 2021. on: July 22, 2021, 11:03:28 PM
Venezuela "launched" their CBDC years ago. I hope nigeria does a better job with their CBDC than venezuela did.

The main question here is whether nigerian central banks are amassing the hardware infrastructure, base of software developers and partnerships needed to rollout and support a CBDC. Do they have a basic developer roadmap with a timeline. Is there a blueprint with basic design goals. These are not trivial tasks and governments of the world, including the united states, are known to struggle with such projects. Which have a tendency to go overbudget and take longer than expected.

One example of this is the US government website for america's affordable care act enrollees. The website alone costed $1 billion dollars and was plagued with bugs and technical issues. There were not any significant technical obstacles for the website to solve. It was simply a website for people to sign up for healthcare coverage, to receive the subsidy which was supposed to make healthcare in america more affordable.

1725  Economy / Economics / Re: What kind type of market player you are? on: July 22, 2021, 10:56:48 PM
I think speculator is the entry level position everyone starts in. As they gain knowledge and experience to level up. They branch off into becoming an investor or trader, if not a hybrid of both.

These descriptions don't fully apply to cryptocurrency finance, FOREX or precious metals. Even stock trading conforms less to these descriptions than they once did. Due to market price trends being defined more by QE than by basic market mechanics. When QE is responsible for upwards 90% of price trends, everyone in a sense, becomes a speculator. Gamestop and doge pumps coupled with the randomness of price trend timing on Elon Musk social media posts illustrate this to a degree.

Speculation is probably a broader term than most realize. Even precious metals and commodities are not free of it.
1726  Other / Archival / Re: El Salvadorans are not happy about accepting bitcoin as a means of payment on: July 22, 2021, 10:45:06 PM
"El salvadorans" are repeating word for word the same negative criticisms the media published on bitcoin, since Jamie Dimon called it a bubble. I'm surprised they didn't say bitcoin is bad for the environment.

I think if they actually had experience with bitcoin, and used it. Their opinions and views would change significantly. Rather than most el salvadorans disliking bitcoin. I think this indicates most have not tried bitcoin and have no real world experience with it.

Going so far as to march through the streets and protest with anti bitcoin banners and signs would seem to indicate someone hired them to make a public anti crypto demonstration.

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Biden wants to give $4 billion in aid to Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala to reduce migration, Mexico's president reveals

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9186417/Joe-Biden-wants-4-billion-aid-Honduras-El-Salvador-Guatemala-reduce-migration.html

Joe Biden's admin gave billions in aid to honduras, el salvador and guatemala. I would guess that money was used to pay el salvadorans to hold signs protesting bitcoin and crypto.
1727  Other / Off-topic / Quantum Computing Hype is Bad for Science on: July 22, 2021, 10:25:33 PM
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Unless you've been living under a rock, you’ve probably noticed the recent proliferation of striking headlines about revolutionary developments in quantum science and technology, amazing recent successes of world-changing quantum startups, and huge government and private investment in quantum computing to capitalize on the imminent second quantum revolution. Being a bit familiar with quantum physics and having recently spent some time trying to understand how the new “quantum industry” operates, I am getting more and more concerned that this recent quantum computing (QC) commotion is a self-perpetuating “intellectual” Ponzi scheme, a bubble, which may sooner or later crash and take legitimate research and innovation efforts down with it. To be sure there are gems in this "quantum technology space," but they are far and few between. Most ventures are questionable at best and are kept afloat by a huge & growing influx of funding, which is not based on any rational thinking or reasonable expectations.

It appears that the US government is pouring money into "quantum" because China seems to be doing the same. China is doing it presumably to compete with the US and EU, all racing to build a QC. The same "logic" probably applies to the major Big Tech companies (company G does it because company M does it and vice versa). Certain deeptech VCs want "quantum" in their portfolio not so much because they believe it will actually work (whatever "work" even means in this context), but to spice up their portfolio with cutting edge quantum stuff. It is often a purely PR move to lure unsuspecting investors, who have no idea what's going on, but don't want to miss out on the world-changing QC efforts.

This creates an unhealthy situation where there is too much easy money poured into a small niche nascent field, where the hype is based on unrealistic and in some cases simply false expectations. Crazy headlines abound: "quantum computing will change life as we know it," "quantum computing will solve global warming," "Quantum computing will revolutionize science and industry," etc etc. These statements are not based on any research or reality at all, they are not even wishful thinking. The number of known quantum algorithms, which promise advantage over classical computation, is just a few (and none of them will "solve global warming" for sure). More importantly, exactly zero such algorithms have been demonstrated in practice so far and the gap between what’s needed to realize them and the currently available hardware is huge, and it's not just a question of numbers. There are qualitative challenges with scaling up, which will likely take decades to resolve (if ever).

Arguably, there have been successes in “quantum simulation.” But here there is a problem with definition: What does “quantum simulation” actually mean? So far, it has mostly involved doing the same experiments, quantum experimentalists have been doing for decades anyway, but renaming the observed phenomena in a quantum-information-friendly way (for example, one can title a paper with identical content as either “Observation of a Mott insulator with [whatever]” or “Quantum simulation of a Mott insulator with [whatever] quantum computer”). The former will result in an unremarkable publication in a modest journal, the latter will be welcomed by a high-impact scientific magazine, receive prominent news coverage and potential investment into the revolutionary quantum simulation technology.

One can argue that there is nothing wrong with this modus operandi, as even if quantum computing does not deliver on its promises verbatim in the visible future (it won't) or never materializes at all, something good will still come out of this activity. This is actually true and there has already been some intellectually lively research activity with a number of exciting ideas (of relevance to fundamental science) spun by the QC hype. But there is also way too much noise and intellectual junk.

The problem is that the aforementioned situation with the wild influx of quantum money creates incentives for people with no relevant background or abilities to jump into the quantum field, and take advantage of it while the quantum bonanza lasts. There are many "quantum" startups and initiatives, which are promoted and often led by individuals with no relevant expertise or education. It is virtually impossible to make a meaningful impact in this high-end scientific research without proper education and experience. A successful company in the "quantum technology space" can not pop up like Facebook or TikTok or a similar dumbed down platform, based on a code written by a college drop out. What's needed is years of education, work, and dedication. But what's going on is that there is an army of "quantum evangelists" (an actual job title by a prominent quantum startup!)  who can't write the Schrödinger equation (or maybe don't even know what it is), but promote the fairy tales about the bounties of quantum computing revolution, which is supposedly just around the corner. They raise millions of dollars for their startups, which are guaranteed to go down the drain.

One may counter, by asking: who cares? So, VCs want to fund quantum startups to spice up their portfolio, so why is it a problem if some people get rich in the process and some investors lose money. Taken out of context, it is not a big problem per se, but it seems to produce a "chain reaction" of potentially more damaging consequences. I list some such (presumably undesirable) scenarios:

1. Brain drain of true talent. Apart from unqualified "quantum engineers," who poison the field with junk "science," it is understandable that many actually smart and gifted students, postdocs, and senior academics also want to participate in the quantum bonanza, while it lasts. It appears that in many cases (but not all, as there are certainly QC efforts, which undoubtedly produce top notch fundamental research in basic science), this leads to the situation where the researchers are forced to quit activities, they are actually good at and where they could have made real impact, and join the QC hype with its own weird rules. So, talent migrates from legitimate science into quantum evangelism with no content. Some do make money to be sure, but waste their gift and intellect on selling quantum snake oil (one interesting question to which the author has no answer: what’s “better,” brain drain of true talent into quantum computing or the financial industry? But it may not be a zero-sum game).

2. Quantum Ponzi schemes. Another danger is the appearance of (not only intellectual, but actual “old-fashioned”) Ponzi schemes to sustain QC startups for as long as possible. Unlike Theranos, where the underlying technology was supposed to be simple enough and so it was relatively straightforward to detect fraud, quantum technology is actually complicated. For example, one "service" QC companies can provide is access to their quantum hardware on the cloud hosted by Big Tech companies. Using these platforms, developers can write quantum codes and experiment with quantum computing. The truth of the matter is that both now and in the foreseeable future, there is nothing that a few-qubit QC can do that your old laptop can not do. It is unclear how exactly one can verify that a "quantum code" actually runs on a quantum computer (instead of a “classical node” inserted between the cloud and the QC provider), and there is a huge window for fraud there. Another "dangerous element" here is that there could be customers where data security is paramount (like banks etc) who may choose to use the QC "service" just for the publicity sake (imagine a headline "Bank X adds quantum computing to its toolbox to protect customer data"), without actually caring much about the content. So, even if there is a $700 laptop between the cloud and the QC hardware, doing all the “work,” it wouldn't matter too much. Everybody is happy: the QC company sells its “service,” the bank gets the attention-grabbing headline of “quantum security,” and the VC recoups its investment in the quantum technology that makes “dent in the universe” (part of an actual “quantum” job description by one of the BigTech companies; the position is still open at the time of writing). But something is obviously wrong with this scenario, where fake science is promoted. There are of course many more "opportunities" to fool investors and the public in such a complicated space. But the Ponzi schemes can not continue forever, and sooner or later they tend to crash wiping millions of dollars of investors' money.

3. Arguably, the worst possible outcome would be damage to the reputation of science as a whole. It's bad enough that some fields of science (epidemiology, climate science, etc) have been unnecessarily politicized and where some research results and conclusions can not be just published and discussed in an open and unbiased manner. Fortunately, for the exact sciences, like math and physics, it has not been really a problem there just yet. However, now some STEM fields are facing a different danger. The manifestly false promises of quantum computing, routinely made by unqualified individuals, and the high potential for fraud in the less-than-transparent business schemes of the QC companies operating in a fake-it-until-you-make-it market all but guarantee an eventual collapse. Investors will be eventually asking questions, taxpayers will be eventually asking questions, but there will be no good answers. The likely downfall of this enterprise could irreparably damage the reputation of science and scientists across the board. But for now, the quantum house of cards is simultaneously both alive and dead.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/quantum-computing-hype-bad-science-victor-galitski-1c


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Finally some real commentary on exaggerated quantum computing "breakthroughs" touted by the media.   Smiley

The author calls recent quantum computing headlines an intellectual ponzi scheme, a bubble. A trend potentially damaging to legitimate research on quantum computers and related fields.

If anyone wants a 2nd and more independant perspective on claimed quantum computing breakthroughs, this is a great read.

Markets have witnessed a few tech bubbles like the silicon valley dot com bubble craze. Is quantum computing the latest in tech bubble trends. What does everyone think.
1728  Economy / Economics / Re: On Cuba and economy on: July 22, 2021, 01:36:34 AM
Comments like that show how unfamiliar you are with American history. America has been attempting to undermine the autocrats in power in Cuba since the 1960s certainly, and possibly before. The embargo is part of that effort (as misplaced as it is) and the interventions have included more active means like training resistance fighters or even invading the island (Bay of Pigs). Cuba always has the backing of Russia though, so you couldn’t just go in and “liberate” the people from the government. But as far as criticizing the autocrats? Do a google search man!


Cuba's present day military is far weaker than iraq's was. Amassing guns and weapons requires capital. iraq being an oil rich nation gives it money to burn. They can buy tanks, jets and scud missiles. What natural resources does cuba have to exchange for military hardware? Aside from a very small tourism industry.

Cuba relies on the charity of communist regimes around the world to give it free stuff. And the amount of free stuff they have is far less than the military power iraq had when the united states invaded them both times.

The united states could destroy cuba's military easily. Its hard to define a reason, why that hasn't happened. Politics definitely factor in to it. Sanctions by themselves usually do not topple rogue states. There are other motives, consequences and side effects of sanctions. Which are well documented and known. But I suspect, you do not know them.
1729  Economy / Economics / Re: On Cuba and economy on: July 21, 2021, 11:45:56 PM
I think the latest revolt is fueled by food shortages and lack of medical support to treat COVID infection.

Many cubans could be dying from starvation or COVID. If they're already suffering dying, I guess they don't have a whole lot to lose at this point?

One interesting point here is americans were willing to travel to the other side of the planet to "liberate" iraq from an authoritarian dictator. While seeming unable to muster any enthusiasm to criticize cuban autocrats in their own backyard. I've only seen a few random florida mayors suggest lending aid to cubans and opposing the oppression there should be actual things.

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Coalition Of South Florida Mayors Urge Biden Administration To Step Up To Help Cuba, Haiti

MIAMI (CBSMiami) – A coalition of South Florida mayors held a meeting Saturday morning to discuss the current situations in Haiti and Cuba.

Miami Mayor Francis Suarez stood on the podium shortly after 10:30 a.m., joined by 9 other mayors from the League of Cities, including Miami-Dade Mayor Daniella Levine Cava.

“We are here united as one voice and as one group and we are going to be focusing on things that we want from the US government,” said Suarez.

“The second thing that we agreed was that the Cuban military and that is specifically individual members of the Cuban military, that carry out the orders of the Cuban government and repress the Cuban people and beat the Cuban people and harm the Cuban people that the United States of America do everything in its power to ensure that they will be met that those actions will be met with serious and severe consequences, whether they be prosecutions, whatever stream of consequences the United States in its broad array of powers can bring to bear on on these actors who are systematically beating their own people,” said Suarez.

Mayor Levine Cava said she had written a letter to President Biden asking him to take measures to help the people of Cuba and Haiti.

“Yesterday, I sent a letter to President Biden, and I called upon him to listen to the voices of our community, our community is uniquely positioned as the closest to those islands as the one that has benefited from the Diaspora from those two nations as the one that stands in solidarity, fighting for the well being of the people and the freedom for those people,” she said.

“We say to you, Mr. President, we need you to step up. We need you to do what other administrations have not done. We need you to listen to our voices and take concrete actions to protect our neighbors to protect our shores to protect the human Cuban and Haitian communities here in Miami Dade, and everyone who stands united.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coalition-of-south-florida-mayors-urge-biden-administration-to-step-up-to-help-cuba-haiti/ar-AAMgpkS
1730  Economy / Economics / Stablecoins 101 on: July 21, 2021, 11:30:57 PM
Crypto volatility for retailers has been a hot topic. Merchants accepting crypto in exchange for goods can absorb losses if the price of crypto decreases, before its exchanged for fiat.

But not much has been said about crypto volatility on the buyer's end.  Smiley

The way markets are structured it is possible to "buy" bitcoin today using a service like coinbase. With the actual buy order being executed hours from when the buy order is placed. Price volatility can affect this buy order for better or worse. Long story short, volatility of crypto can affect buyers as well as sellers.

Buyers of crypto have sought methods of nullifying volatility on the buyer's end. This is where stablecoins enter the picture.

Tether being pegged to the dollar reduces volatility which could be present holding another currency or coin used as a medium to buy crypto. Stablecoins like tether can be exchanged for bitcoin and crypto simultaneously on exchanges. Reducing volatility present using other methods of purchase.

Reducing volatility on the buyer's end is one of the reasons stablecoins have taken off.

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The other reason stablecoins are in demand is for crypto purchasing in larger sums.

If a whale wanted to buy $1+ million in bitcoin. They would typically have 2 main options.

1.  Banks
2.  Stablecoins

1731  Economy / Economics / Re: Very interesting ban on mining gear. Actually a pc from Dell on: July 20, 2021, 11:48:14 PM
"This product cannot be shipped to the states of california, colorado, hawaii, oregon, vermont or washington due to power consumption regulations."

All 6 listed are democrat blue states.

Conservative right leaning states like florida and texas have recently adopted legislation friendly to bitcoin and crypto.

This could provide exposition for the increasing political divide surrounding bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.

I think most know democrat Joe Biden (current US President) has been referred to as "China Joe".
1732  Economy / Economics / Re: The Rothschilds have quadrupled their stake in BTC since April on: July 20, 2021, 11:39:21 PM
There have been reports over the years about Rothschilds buying bitcoin. Along with goldman sachs buying poloniex through circle. Ethereum having partnerships with microsoft and big players. Craig Wright having $200 million invested in his start up by (I think) banks.

This latest report about Rothschilds follows hot on the heels of claims of George Soros becoming more involved with BTC. If there were a massive and coordinated effort to attack bitcoin's market valuation, I think neither Soros nor Rothschilds would fund it. They don't use their own money to attack markets, initiate regime change or fund social movements across the globe.

They do what Trump did when he tried to make mexico pay for a border wall.

1733  Economy / Economics / Re: End Game? on: July 20, 2021, 11:23:52 PM
Everyone knows moore's law defines a rough cycle for transistor density increasing over time.

Bitcoin's history is defined by rough 4 year boom and bust cycles correlated with miner rewards halving.

Don't know the origins of the narrative claiming markets are fueled by speculation. Credit and savings for poor to middle class earners is at all time lows, while debt is at all time highs. Markets have not been significantly influenced by lower wealth brackets in decades. All trends and price movements are defined by hedge funds, banks and state QE.

If history repeats itself, we have already seen the end game in past eras of history. Its only a matter of identifying which past history bears a resemblance to the current one.
1734  Economy / Economics / Yellen-led regulators plan stablecoin recommendations within months on: July 20, 2021, 10:45:09 PM
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Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen held a meeting with federal regulators to discuss the need to come up with plans to regulate stablecoins.

Yellen met on Monday with the President’s Working Group on Financial Markets, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, according to the Treasury Department.

The eight people present discussed stablecoins’ rapid growth in popularity, payment uses, and risks, including to national security and the financial system. Yellen told those at the meeting, including Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, that the United States needs to “act quickly” to implement a regulatory framework.

“The group also heard a presentation from Treasury staff on the preparation of a report on stablecoins, which would discuss their potential benefits and risks, the current U.S. regulatory framework, and the development of recommendations for addressing any regulatory gaps,” Yellen’s office said in a readout of the meeting.

Stablecoins are a type of cryptocurrency that has generated attention in recent months. Stablecoins, such as Tether and USD Coin, have their value tied to another asset class, such as gold or fiat currency, and don’t fluctuate as wildly in value when compared to other cryptocurrencies, like Bitcoin, because they are asset-backed.

Powell was asked about stablecoins during two hearings he attended on Capitol Hill last week. He told lawmakers that it is “very important” to regulate them.

https://news.yahoo.com/yellen-led-regulators-plan-stablecoin-205800643.html


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Tether is outright banned in the USA. This discussion revolves around other stablecoins in america.

Its an interesting topic. The only thing tether can be used for is purchasing bitcoin. Other stablecoins are intended to fill other market niches. The US tether ban prevents many americans from using tether to buy bitcoin. Additional regulation on stablecoins could have an identical effect.

If this basic overview is accurate, the end effect will diminish purchasing volume of cryptocurrencies. Which will translate to reduced demand and a price drop. On the opposite end of the spectrum, rising inflation could expand the size of the crypto userbase, which would be correlated with rising demand, and price increase trending in the opposite direction.

The motive behind frantic fed regulation of stablecoins is in question here. Its no big secret that federal reserve chairman normally have history in the banking industry. Would that be grounds for many to cite a conflict of interest?



1735  Economy / Economics / Re: A Game of Governments - China and Authoritarism on: July 19, 2021, 11:56:13 PM
I have been thinking along the lines mentioned by OP for awhile now. There are many different angles and facets to it. Its a difficult puzzle to anticipate, much less predict. There are many unusual angles and twists to it, we wouldn't expect.

To try to understand our current day predicament, I think a person has to be aware of certain basic fundamentals of history. There are patterns which repeat over the last few thousand years. Modern day totalitarianism isn't so different from monarchy of past eras. Most historic struggles were class warfare waged between the rich and poor. With current debates revolving around wage and wealth inequality, we might question whether anything has really changed.

China might be compared to being version 2.0 of the USSR. Its political and power hierarchy is very similar to the USSR with a few upgrades. China is more friendly towards innovation, progress and capitalism than the USSR was in an effort to offset some of the USSR's biggest shortcomings. Many USSR era drawbacks however remain. There's such a long list of aspects to china by itself, I couldn't do its justice in a short post.

I couldn't pick a winner in the global conflict between populism and socialism. Whatever happens I hope people learn from the experience, and that we're all able to make better choices and decisions in the future. Aside from that don't have much of a clue how things will play out.
1736  Economy / Economics / Re: Are Renewable Energy resources the future? on: July 19, 2021, 11:25:59 PM
A case could be made for renewable energy representing the future, due to them producing energy more affordably in contrast to fossil fuel based energy.

But there is future technology with the potential to generate power more affordably than current day renewables.

A catalyst could someday be found to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen more efficiently. Paving the way to a hydrogen based economy becoming more sustainable. There are researchers who are actively pursuing this, as far as I know. Every few years one of them claims a breakthrough.

Methane based solutions could gain favor due to methane being more damaging a greenhouse gas than carbon, per gram. Burning methane I think produces carbon which is better for the environment than methane is.

If closed loop steam engines powered by sunlight could be developed. I think they would have a cleaner carbon footprint than current renewables. The way it might work is, big mirrors focus sunlight on a steam boiler. Using special materials to insulate and contain the heat. Water (or molten salt at very high temperatures) boils producing steam. Which drives the engine. In a perfect world, the boiled water would be recollected in a closed loop so water wouldn't need to constantly be added. The good thing about steam engines is they can last 100+ years. While the longevity of windmills and solar panels is far shorter.

There's a list of potential future energy sources, which could be developed if science continues to progress.
1737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Police Destroy 1,069 Bitcoin Miners With Steamroller In Malaysia on: July 19, 2021, 11:11:29 PM
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As Bitcoin’s price surged this spring to a new all-time high, the spotlight shining on its controversial mining process only got brighter. Bitcoin, Ethereum, and many other cryptocurrencies use an energy-intensive “proof-of-work” process that makes computers on its decentralized network compete to solve complex mathematical equations to verify a batch of transactions; this makes the network less susceptible to certain attacks, and earns miners crypto rewards.

Given the competitive element in the quest for valuable cryptocurrency, powerful mining rigs—essentially, PCs purpose-built to maximize mining rewards—are the preferred tool of serious crypto miners. They are expensive, and persistent demand and manufacturing delays can mean months-long waits for rigs to be delivered. This week, police in Malaysia crushed 1,069 of them with a steamroller.

Authorities in the city of Miri in Sarawak, Malaysia seized 1,069 rigs from miners alleged to have stolen electricity for their operations, per a report from local publication The Star. The devices were seized in a joint operation between Miri police and Sarawak Energy Berhad between February and April, and have an estimated value of RM5.3 million ($1.25 million USD), according to the outlet.

Six individuals were arrested for electricity theft in the operation, and “have been fined up to RM8,000 and jailed for up to eight months," according to a statement from Miri police chief ACP Hakemal Hawari that was quoted by The Star. Local Sarawak news outlet Dayak Daily adds that the rigs were collected over the course of six separate raids. Sarawak Energy Berhad estimates that it lost RM8.4 million ($2 million USD) in energy that was stolen from its lines for the mining operation, the outlet reported. Dayak Daily also uploaded a video to YouTube showing the miners being steamrolled.


Neither outlet stated why the police felt it was necessary to destroy the machines in such dramatic fashion, though it certainly sends a strong message. Electricity theft is a persistent issue in numerous regions where Bitcoin is mined, as some operators use illegal means to secure the cheap electricity necessary to make a big profit mining cryptocurrency.

"The electricity theft for mining Bitcoin activities has caused frequent power outages, and in 2021, three houses were razed due to illegal electricity supply connections," The Star quotes  Hawari as saying.

According to the report, the mining rigs were demolished in the parking lot of the Miri district police headquarters this week, as seen in the video above. Bitcoin enthusiasts might watch the video and see dreams of prospective crypto wealth crushed to bits, while anti-mining advocates are likely to see Bitcoin’s ecological impact being slightly curtailed amidst all of that e-waste.

Bitcoin’s distributed ledger design ensures the security and stability of the blockchain network, but the mining model requires exorbitant amounts of energy. Digiconomist estimates that the Bitcoin network now uses as much energy annually as the entire county of Sweden, and the energy use of the network is sure to rise as more mining power is added to the network (and vice versa).

The leading cryptocurrency’s early-year surge was halted in part by Tesla announcing in May that it would no longer accept Bitcoin payments, citing concerns over the use of fossil fuels in mining. It was an about-face for the electric car maker, which announced in February that it had purchased  $1.5 billion worth of Bitcoin to hold on its balance sheet, and soon after began accepting Bitcoin payments for a brief span.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk, the terminally-online Dogecoin memer, has since become reviled by many crypto enthusiasts for his perceived meddling in the scene, including the formation of a “Bitcoin Mining Council.” Bitcoin’s price fell swiftly following Tesla’s announcement, and at a current price just above $32,000 per coin, it’s worth about half of its all-time high set in April.

China’s increasing crackdown on cryptocurrency has also recently dampened enthusiasm around the industry. Crypto mining has been banned in multiple provinces, causing the Bitcoin network’s hash rate (or total computational power) to sink as miners shut down or move abroad. The People’s Bank of China also told top banks and payments services to root out cryptocurrency users and implement stricter know-your-customer processes.

Earlier this week, the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) similarly busted a crypto mining operation for allegedly stealing electricity from a nearby regional energy provider. That bust had its own unique hook: some 3,800 PlayStation 4 consoles made up the majority of the seized devices, as the systems had apparently been modified to mine an unidentified cryptocurrency. Game consoles are significantly less powerful than dedicated PC mining rigs, but there’s still potential for profit when the energy cost is zero.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kv739/police-destroy-1069-bitcoin-miners-with-big-ass-steamroller-in-malaysia


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Video of incidenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_tcg9kOfkg

Is it fair to say a political statement is being made here? Malaysia is doing this as a gesture of appeasement towards china's hard anti bitcoin stance.

Initially, china banned crypto mining. Many miners relocated their equipment to other countries, or sold them online. The evolution of this process is malaysia now destroying mining units to prevent them from being relocated or sold.

Is there a legitimate motive for outright destroying mining units. Rather than auctioning or selling them. Aside from politics?

1738  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling attracted to emotion or luck on: July 19, 2021, 10:45:17 PM
The relaxed mind is influenced by money and profit, less. Focusing trends with money matters. It can impair judgement. The way driving under the influence of alcohol can. Pressure, tension and emotions can also come with focus. Which can decrease achievement.

Its been said that having a winning mentality is crucial to winning games like poker. Having the right mindset and attitude can translate to making the correct choices. It dovetails with the law of attraction. Which many successful athletes and celebrities cite.

Approaching gambling as a way to make money is usually a losing mentality for me. Making the correct choices is the path to winning. Money and correct choices are two very different things. Many bad bets will look like good bets, if they're viewed purely as opportunities for profit.
1739  Economy / Economics / Re: Forex trading on: July 18, 2021, 11:48:47 PM
I thought about shorting the dollar on FOREX. But is there anything to short it against? It seems many nations around the world are printing large volumes of fiat, which tends to balance things out. The official value of currencies doesn't fall much in exchange rate. The price of goods increase. The purchasing power of consumers being diminished is where inflation reveals itself.

We need a new FOREX investment vehicle or structure. Which allows citizens to profit from fiat inflation. To balance out consumer purchasing power lost in the process.

The zimbabwe dollar and venezuelan bolivar both need this. Perhaps the american dollar will in the future. That could be worth a nobel prize in economics. Would that be fair to say.
1740  Economy / Economics / Re: How to Start A Cryptocurrency Exchange Step-by-Step on: July 18, 2021, 11:37:10 PM
Location is key. Binance issues with UK regulation shows how some countries are better for operating crypto exchanges than others.

"How to get your crypto coin listed on an exchange" is probably a hot topic at the moment. It is rumored some alt coins paid respectable amounts of money to exchanges, to have their coins listed and supported.

Crypto exchanges are a competitive industry. It could help to have a different format, good design, unique options and terms offered to clients. Something to give it a head start advantage against the competition.

There is also a rich history of crypto exchanges to research and learn from. MTGOX to BTC-E were around before coinbase or binance and have many interesting stories to tell.
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