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2821  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: October 26, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
Now remaining First Year of Issue numbered gold plated Bitcoin Specie collectibles in the following had numbered series:
32-49
51-68
70-87
89-98

Will keep the OP updated
2822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] PhenixEx Notice on: October 26, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
It has nothing to do with trying to scare you Joeri. What i am trying to do is show you are barking up the wrong tree. The only way you will see i am telling the truth is by playing this out. Here are the links to who you need to contact http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx Now you have publicly stated
my name and slandering me in a public forum. Now this is a whole different ball game. There will be no more contact between us.  


You may be looking for a cause of action for libel (in print, published), slander is oral, or transitory.
2823  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] PhenixEx Notice on: October 26, 2013, 08:45:55 PM
This site might be helpful for everyone who wants to know their options regarding legal actions, criminal persecution and other information:
http://www.avvo.com/ask-a-lawyer

This one as well, but it is paid:
http://www.justanswer.com/law/

This is a directory to find a lawyer afterwards in the required state:
http://www.ailalawyer.com/

A lawyer is not tied to a specific state, but I still recommend chosing a lawyer in their state as they know the specifics of state laws and tracking them down would be easier.

The Bar is a state by state matter, though some states honor each other's Bar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_bar_association
2824  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Agora Commodities - A Full Service Bitcoin to Precious Metal Dealer. on: October 26, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
These look like some better options than what Bitgild have running currently:
http://sixrevisions.com/tools/10-free-website-chat-widgets-to-make-your-site-interactive/

Apriori, I like 5,6,7,8,10 of that list, but haven't looked at their code yet.
2825  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Agora Commodities - A Full Service Bitcoin to Precious Metal Dealer. on: October 26, 2013, 07:06:04 AM
How much wealth will be created with bitcoin?

What are marvelous concept of money!

... you guys OK?  Forum account get hacked or something?

No just a momentary lapse into euphoria... Wink

We are thinking about launching a live chat option on our website. Any opinions from the community for or against?

It isn't a bad idea.
Bitgild.com also does this during EU daytime
They use https://www.zopim.com which has that "feature" that bugs me in regards to embedded widgets that propagate information without good disclosure of this.
2826  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Collectors Silver/Gold Coins/Bullion on: October 25, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
Just a few hours left on the Norfed Auction. At the current bid, I'm losing about $8.50 if no one decides to bid higher. Good for you, bad for me  Undecided 

https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/70920-2000-norfed-liberty-dollar-in-airtite

You might hang on to these...  I am expecting some news that is going to make their value soar.
2827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
With all the pseudo-panic, this is not a bad time to fund the education accounts of my nephews and nieces with bitcoin.  Those coins will stay put for years.
2828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 04:55:55 PM
I saw linux installed on a computer once in my life. md5sum ??

Something simpler please  Smiley

http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

I will get it checked by my IT buddy.

I will post the bottom prediction (date and price) hash maybe a quarter / month /week before.

http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator
Just click "calculate hash"

This wins the "easiest" contest
2829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 04:17:38 PM
If you use Microsoft Windows.  They have a free tool for it here, along with some instructions.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290

Download FCIV, then run
FCIV -md5 -sha1 (path/filename)

If you post the hash (the result of running the FCIV program on the text file in which you write your prediction) then you can prove that the prediction is unchanged later when you choose to reveal what it was because people can check the hash and see that it was the same then as now.


Isn't Sha1 already cracked / broken / compromised?

It is secure enough for this.  The chances of a non-technical person creating two files that can collide their hashes is not high. Smiley
But if you want to be even more provably truthful about your having made the prediction you can use sha256 if you like:

Code:
C:\Users\loozik>copy con prediction
bottom is 160^Z
        1 file(s) copied.


C:\Users\loozik>type prediction
bottom is 160
C:\Users\loozik>FCIV -md5 -sha256 prediction
//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//
8b504cd67b545ff72c1ca99c9e17e04d prediction

C:\Users\loozik>

Then you can just post the hash: 8b504cd67b545ff72c1ca99c9e17e04d
And then later when you reveal the contents of the prediction file, we can all see that it was what it was when you made it.
2830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
It's not even really crypto that's needed. Here's how it could be done in Linux

Code:
$ echo To Da Moon >prediction.txt
$ md5sum prediction.txt
16c02065ecdd742048d78181dbbeae8d  prediction.txt
Then just post the md5.


I saw linux installed on a computer once in my life. md5sum ??

Something simpler please  Smiley

If you use Microsoft Windows.  They have a free tool for it here, along with some instructions.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290

Download FCIV, then run
FCIV -md5 -sha1 (path/filename)

If you post the hash (the result of running the FCIV program on the text file in which you write your prediction) then you can prove that the prediction is unchanged later when you choose to reveal what it was because people can check the hash and see that it was the same then as now.
2831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 01:45:54 PM
So we're going to $30 "again"? =)

It would be cool if we dropped like this. I wonder if Shroomskit managed to sell at the recent high.

yes, everyone likes a crash (no, really), but I was curious as to what allowed bitcoin to claw it's way back up after massive crashes, why didn't it die? It seems obvious to me now that silk road kept it going, and growing. Silk Road has gone - so what now?
posted before but deleted it, because i said it many times.

SR is gone, sheepmarket and BMR seeing exponential growth. (AFAIK from people buying there SR merchants simply changed marketplaces and do the same as before)
Ullbricht in the media worldwide was cheap advertising for new consumers to learn that you can buy high quality stuff on the TOR network.
pandora's box opened and hdyra is grwoing more heads.

this is bullish news for adaption of btc as a blackmarket currency.

And you don't think any of these people are shaken by the fact that if the FBI can find DPR and NOD that they are not as safe as they thought they once where?

I agree the market will simply move to Sheep & BMR but confidence in anonymity has been shaken also...

Time will tell how much impact these places have on btc stability

Both the enforcers and the black marketeers can see the parts of the black market system that failed.  
Bitcoin provides a money trail for the enforcers when the black marketeers make the inevitable mistake, and for the black marketeers the DPR private Bitcoin hoard remains secure even from arguably the most powerful entities in the war on drugs, and may remain so forever with zero counterparty risks.  
The Silk Road takedown is solid proof of Bitcoin's security and utility.  Bitcoin failed no one.  It is the innocent bystander.
2832  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bitcoin Wallet Recovery Services - for forgotten wallet password on: October 25, 2013, 11:44:11 AM

This is not about trust or reputation. The way this service works doesn't require trust. Operator cannot steal your coins. You will see that by either looking at the process of submitting your partial wallet or by reading this thread (the part about the 1 BTC).


Looks like I was having one of my grandpa moments. I thought I had read that trust would build over time and this service would be accepted, which is why my response was saying that services should not rely on trust but comprehension of the underlying procedures. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

What this guy has to offer is essentially a lot of computing power that can be rented for the time needed to brute-force a mistyped password. It is pretty awesome and I would definitely recommend anyone who needs a service like this to read into it.

It doesn't require trusting your wallet to the service.  It does require other sorts of trusts, though very little.  I wish it every success, it is likely to be increasingly in demand.
2833  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Consequences of operating as MTL if operation outside of the USA on: October 25, 2013, 11:36:02 AM
If you are looking to achieve compliance and have an ongoing operation.  It may be reasonable to consider having more than one company.  When you get to the size that you want to address the US market with some seriousness, consider having a different company in US (and other countries where you want to serve users, or buying a US shell company (company with no employees) that already has some of the registrations you seek (I've seen MSB shell companys with many state registrations included, that sell for a couple hundred thousand USD).
With a local company, your US customers have no FBAR issue (because it is non-foreign), and the US sub/joint-venture can deal with the local compliance issues, FATCA, run its own P&L and pay licensing/franchise/software fees to the parent in Philippines to keep it as funded or as hallowed out as it makes sense.
This can be repeated in any country in which what you are proposing to do is a regulated industry.
This model can also provide incremental revenue from selling partnerships with local operations, while retaining some shares in each newco.  Some countries will require this model (US and China certainly), but it will almost always be easier to manage regulatory issues when you have a local company.
2834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: October 25, 2013, 01:33:48 AM
Completely unrelated note... anyone watching world series??  Trying to find it online, to no avail.  I would even pay for it... but looks like it's blacked out the whole USA.  Don't have TV... don't watch TV.

Sports bar with wifi?  Probably your local Hooters.
2835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: October 25, 2013, 12:43:21 AM
The exante BitcoinFund prediction is 500. They have a pod of whales swimming in their pond.

Meh, Bitcoin's market cap is currently $2.5B. That is a lot but nothing compared to many $Tillions of gold reserves held.

A Bitcoin price of 500 still only brings the market cap to around $6B, it Bitcoin takes off as a viable reserve asset that is nothing and we still have a way to go.

The reason price targets make no sense is Bitcoin is either going to the moon, or crashing to zero as a failed experiment. I don't see a middle ground. That is the entire premise of this thread IMHO, that BTC will become a reserve asset and in the process go up A LOT. Why trade that asset? Just hold.

+1.  It's always nice to see when someone 'gets it'  (said with an air of presumption which does not escape me...)

Years ago, and probably on this thread, I predicted that the main problem would be to figure out how to capitalize.  How much, when, how (in light of regulatory interference, etc) and that sort of thing.  And as I had hoped, that is the set of problems I'm facing now.



this is what i continue to call Bitcoin's Tension.

ppl are so focused on the problems of today.  especially the illiquidity and difficulties in "capitalizing". and they are right about that; today.  but anyone here, if they have been paying attention to what i've been saying, understands that if Bitcoin makes it thru the gauntlet (window of illiquidity and nonacceptance) all these problems will melt away.  

all of a sudden you will find yourself in control of a pile of BTC worth thousands and all sorts of means to capitalize if you wish (cash out).

it's going to happen.

It's a utterly strange feeling that either the whole world goes down and you and a small group of people are the sole winners, the last ones left standing, or the world wins over you and you have nothing left, no compromise, no reconciliation.

As much as I want to see the success of Bitcoin, I am not sure I am already prepared for the Pax Bitcoinica world.

Exante's prediction was for 2013, made in April.  Yes the future will be different.

The trick of pax bitcoinica is to get from here to there with the least destructive upheavals.  
This is one of the considerations of my projects.  To bring bitcoin and hard money in general, to the people who will use it so that when the changes come they can manage it.  It is not so bad to spread it more thinly.  It is easier when no one around you is hungry or carrying pitchforks.  Slow steady rises are good.  I look forward to the year when Bitcoin price only doubles.
2836  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest in Bitcoin, Gold or Silver? on: October 25, 2013, 12:00:21 AM
Just thinking out of the box... why not invest in the market gap between MtGox and BTCe?  There is constantly a decent percentage spread between the two exchange rates and even the other exchanges.

I was checking http://www.currentbitcoinvalue.org/ today and MtGox was at $205.23 while BTCe was at $183.91.  That is a 10% difference, which is more than enough to cover the trade fees.

I am sure someone can figure out a way to overcome the time delays of moving USD and Bitcoin between exchanges to make a profit.

Some have.  It is not easy to start this now.
2837  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Project on: October 24, 2013, 11:48:56 PM
I was going to bounty but I currently only hold Litecoin while the BTC deflates =/

You've been very helpful and although you may monetize such a list or task, We are only trying to grow the community and appreciate the help you have given.

While I still have your seemingly omnescent attention <3, Is there a list anywhere of all the Merchants who accept BTC aside from the wiki?  I've read there are over 12k, and that list contains a little over 1200.

Thanks again.

Oh and I appreciated the benign retort from the gentleman above you =]

-Adam

Helpful is my goal, though I can appear cantankerous.  You have @bitcoininformation to thank for the attention, he tweeted your post.

I don't know everything about authentication, security and programming, just what comes from a couple decades of wrestling with identity management and anonymity issues, far from omniscient.  I know even less about merchant lists.  Were I to go down that road....

Bitpay and Coinbase would have the most comprehensive lists.
Those aren't public.
There are a number of "yellow pages" type sites for bitcoin which are begging for some enterprising aggregation, but there isn't one I know of that has all of them.

I wish you every success.
2838  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: October 24, 2013, 11:36:38 PM
Speaking of collectors...

After listening to the feedback here and discussing with the team, we have decided to release the GOLD ELECTROPLATED 2013 SILVER BITCOIN SPECIE as the FIRST YEAR OF ISSUE piece, the perfect holiday gift for someone you love (yes it is OK to love yourself).  This is the first of the openly available, limited edition, collectible Bitcoin Specie pieces.

These will be hand numbered 001-100 (there were actually 101 made so there is one out there without a hallmark because I sold the prototype, so one lucky person has a one-of-a-kind).
Of these, before I even made it to a computer to post this, already 27 have been "spoken for" (some in our team joined late and didn't get a FIRST STRIKE) so the remaining pieces will be offered to everyone here at the direct pricing of 2x the standard price + shipping.  They will come in an airtite clear case accompanied with a signed and numbered certificate of authenticity for FIRST YEAR OF ISSUE.  

Optionally:
1) Maple display stand 0.055 BTC
2) Steel letherette gift box 0.033 BTC  (depicted below)
3) Wood presentation case 0.11 BTC  (depicted below)
4) Ornament/necklace airtite case .02 BTC
(No added charges for shipping with display options)

There are 73 left, so if you know any collectors (or are one) and want to get a head start on your holiday shopping, you might want some of these.    
They are now in hand and available for immediate release.  First come, first serve, no limit while available.

Available#s remaining:
32
34-49
51-68
70-75
77-87
89-98


We are increasingly considering each of the contributors to this forum a part of our team, and we are grateful for the incisive criticisms as well as the generous encouragement.
2839  Economy / Collectibles / Re: New Bitcoin Specie by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: October 24, 2013, 11:21:19 PM
I haven't seen the Mulligan Mint coin in person, only in photos. Aesthetically, I think the Mulligan Mint coin looks much less sophisticated (reminds me of a token I used to get as a kid to play video games at the mall, rather than what comes to mind when I think of a silver coin).

I can show you one at the next meetup.  Your keychains have more quality in my humble opinion.

From the looks of it, they reused the obverse from one of their clients who'd used it for coppers (with likely no compensation or agreement), and muled it with a reverse of their own.  Its a 2D piece (designed in black and white and sent to the CNC, though they did splurge on some frosting).  On the reverse of their own design, the only design elements are some text in a computer font and 1010101010 repeating.  The obverse has some much more interesting design elements, and even some subtle visual humor (block chain hehehe), which I like.
The obverse was clearly designed by someone in the bitcoin community, and the reverse, clearly not, and from this I deduced it to be a mule.

I was flattered that they are stealing my QR feature, even if they point it to an advert for their sales effort instead of something of use to the owner of the piece.  It is understandable I suppose, they have a lot more problems than I do.  The perversity of this is that those pieces may become sought after by collectors as they are bound to be scarce.
2840  Economy / Collectibles / Re: A new 2-sided Bitcoin Keychain on: October 24, 2013, 10:34:07 PM
Got a BTC keychain - love it. Very nice, already someone I know wants one.

This is a lesson for everyone.  If you like it, you probably know others who will as well.
Get the good stuff by the handful.

Someday I may get down to a single key chain, but that won't be soon.
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