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1861  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BITGILD.com - Bitcoin to Gold || LIVE CHARTS - BITCOIN TO GOLD || on: March 12, 2014, 04:23:23 PM
Haven't all the Maple leafs since 1988 have been 4 9s? 0.9999 fine.
Its not a lot more silver but much more expensive refining and a little bit softer.
This makes it a little easier on the dies, and you can get more rise out of the metal, but doesn't hold up as well.
1862  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BITGILD.com - Bitcoin to Gold || LIVE CHARTS - BITCOIN TO GOLD || on: March 12, 2014, 02:54:56 PM
I've become a fan of the charting you are doing with the silver/gold/bitcoin.
Thanks for this addition. Smiley
1863  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: USA Subsection Needed? (POLL) on: March 12, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
And the first stock exchanges were in Europe, so we all learn from each other.  If you need to feel separate, stick a [USA] in your thread title or something distinctive.
Hiding all the USA stuff in its own little sub forum doesn't improve matters.
1864  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MasterCoin: New Protocol Layer Starting From “The Exodus Address” on: March 12, 2014, 02:40:07 PM
The thing is to learn from the community. Learn what is wrong and do something about it. The Bitcoin community is quite negative about Mastercoin at the moment. Some are openly hostile. The thing is to not get stuck on the FUD, but real concerns like some things killerstorm has pointed out.

I see a strong level of support coming from many. Just check the #mastercoin on twitter. Those who have a problem with Mastercoin using Bitcoin protocol or the lack of mining don't really get Mastercoin and need to be educated. Mastercoin was the result of community coming together to create the first decentralized exchange.

Mastercoin is first such initiative and most advanced at the moment. All others came after and even though they do have some good ideas, Mastercoin has a huge head start and first mover advantage, which will become more obvious in the days to come.

I learn a lot from my critics.
Those that criticize for good reason are the next wave of adopters once those reasons are resolved.
Those that criticize for poor reasons are just the very late adopters.
Cryptographic assurances are taking the place of regulation and governance, so it is going forward with or without them.
1865  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: USA Subsection Needed? (POLL) on: March 12, 2014, 02:24:40 PM
As a small business-person you are NOT ALLOWED to ask anyone in public for funding.  It's against the law.  I cannot say to anyone in this or any other forum something like: "hey I want to borrow bitcoins from you and I'll pay you back with interest".  To do that is ILLEGAL.
      

This is inaccurate. []

It's particularly inaccurate now, with the beginning of the JOBS Act implementation, ya? 

Even so, we need a USA subsection.  How 'bout it admins?

A law ghetto?

Law is a matter of geography everywhere.  Why exacerbate US exceptionalism?
1866  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: March 12, 2014, 01:04:53 PM
if you make a little hole on the top side of the coin I'll make a thread trough it and wear it on my neck. That would be awesome!
This has been posted before and I think he liked that idea. Not sure though.

We did one better, an air tight case with such a hole!



It keeps your bling looking blingy


They were also popular as Christmas ornaments




But once they are yours, you are certainly welcome to drill holes in them too if you like.
1867  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: USA Subsection Needed? (POLL) on: March 11, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
As a small business-person you are NOT ALLOWED to ask anyone in public for funding.  It's against the law.  I cannot say to anyone in this or any other forum something like: "hey I want to borrow bitcoins from you and I'll pay you back with interest".  To do that is ILLEGAL.
      

This is inaccurate.  Privately negotiated lending does not have to be registered per se in the US, even if the initial solicitation is public, so long as it doesn't otherwise qualify as a security under the '33 and '34 acts.  The catch-all in the '33 acts definition of "security," the investment contract, is not broad enough to cover private non-standardized lending (as broad as it is).

There are exceptions to each of the ANYONE blanket statements made in the OP.
Some but not all business transactions fall within these regulatory governance parameters.
Most private business transactions are just that.
1868  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: March 11, 2014, 01:44:10 PM
well, there you have it:

Japan lays down the Bitcoin law: Treat it like gold

if the Japanese say so, then it is.
It's funny watching gov grasping at trying to define new revolutionary tech by applying old metrics.  It's like trying to tax email by making people buy a stamp for every email.  Good luck with that.  LOL

Nice analogy ...  Cheesy


Remember X.400?
1869  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 2014 Conference in Holland May 15-17 2014 on: March 11, 2014, 01:26:41 PM
Is this the official thread for the may 2014 conference? Are the conference organizers reading this thread?

I'd like to know what is and what is not included in the ticket price. Also, if a hotel room is included, I'd like to know if it is possible to get a cheaper ticket without hotel booking included.

The "official" thread is likely to be found within TBF forum.

To the extent that these conventions also do outreach and membership drives and bring more folks into TBF, this would be that thread.
So...  join for the official, or hang out here with the rest of us "potential recruitables".
1870  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 11, 2014, 01:05:46 PM
the simplistic (a.k.a. retarded) battle cry of the libertarian/armchair-anarchist in here seems to be "kill the state", not "reduce the state to its optimal level".

Let me put it differently: I'd be more than happy to discuss in which areas, in which countries, for this and that reason, the state has taken over more control than it should have. I however laugh at the notion that a complete removal of the state would somehow lead to a guaranteed improvement of our current living conditions.

The crypto-anarchists might suggest that much of what is currently government might be replaced by mathematics.
To that end, it is less "kill the state" and more "obsolete the state".
To the extent that effort is successful, it may "reduce the state to its optimal level".
1871  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: March 11, 2014, 10:13:52 AM
Dear NewLiberty,

I've been watching quite a time on this forum, but now I specially registered just so I could ask you this question:

Are there still Gold Electroplated 2013 Silver Bitcoin Specie -first year of issue- ? And if yes, which numbers are left?

I would really like to buy one, please  Cheesy

Thank you in advance,

Bart

Thank you, it is uplifting and inspiring that you went to such lengths, so that is very much appreciated.
My email is public in the forum profile and I try to be easy to contact to I apologize for any special effort you had to undergo for that.

Those first year of issue gold EP were a very limited edition and were all sold out or awarded to project participants.
The whole 2013 series, not just the collectibles are sold out.

I've seen them available for resale from some, and I can mention this within the private project discussion.  Maybe someone is less attached to theirs?

We are contemplating doing a Pizza Day Commemorative for May 22, and might do a gold plated version for that.
(There are a lot of pizza fans among project participants)
1872  Other / Politics & Society / Re: California activists seek to redefine quiet, consensual sex as rape on: March 10, 2014, 04:17:06 PM

A ban on sexual activity for deaf and mute people?
Or does this just put them on the permanent offender that prevents them from living anywhere outside a slum or having a job?
1873  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: March 10, 2014, 04:08:14 PM
HardBTC adds the order page for the Bitcoin Specie

http://hardbtc.org/ocart/index.php?route=product/product&path=64&product_id=63


It was pointed out to me recently that there aren't any retailers selling these through the onion network sites.  If you know any merchants there that would like to do so, that market remains open.
1874  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: March 08, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
I bought some of these at the Texas Bitcoin Conference - they are real beauties

Thanks for the feedback.

The fakes come from China and are silver-plated zinc.
I picked up a few and there are some glaring differences even aside from the weight, size, etc.

Also I thought this was pretty interesting.  Liberty Dollars are now being certified, plaqued and graded by ANACS!
Front page news on Coin World Magazine:
http://www.coinworld.com/numismatic/coins/us-20th-century/anacs-certifies-liberty-dollar-medallions.html

I <3 Coin World.
1875  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM
I am happy when it passes $640. Thats it.

That would be the mark it passes the left shoulder on the reverse H&S.  Otherwise, just more consolidation.
1876  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockchain.com Shared send feature gone????? on: February 27, 2014, 12:07:15 PM
We can only speculate on the reasons, but why do they not offer both?
Let their customers decide on what is the best for them.
1877  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mike Hearn, Foundation's Law & Policy Chair, is pushing blacklists right now on: February 25, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
If US law makers and enforcement wish to do something then let them, and when they and their partners finally understand the concept of a de-centralised global currency then they might realise that the rest of the world will continue without them.

In the mean time, they will arrest and seize the time, reputation, and assets of localbitcoin traders.
1878  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Bitcoin Specie Project sponsored by the makers of New Liberty Dollar on: February 24, 2014, 12:59:04 AM
The current batch that is available is the pre-hobbed, first strike batch.
There are only 2500 of these for the 2014.  It seems folks are hodling them rather than spending them.
I'm thinking of marking the one's I spend.  Let me know if you see one out there?
1879  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2014, 03:10:13 AM
Jorge

go buy a bitcoin.

"It might make sense just to get some in case it catches on" - Satoshi Nakamoto 01/17/2009
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 23, 2014, 02:15:48 AM
To be honest, I'm quite surprised and delighted at how everyone is taking this and handling it. I was half-expecting all hell to break loose when I said that we're going to have to assume the BTC is lost for now. Someone asked which address contains the 115 BTC the hacker took. You can see everything here: https://blockchain.info/address/134V1Rt8tBtz7RuydzBtvfuNNfyHmDCHSp

Two questions for the community:

1. 2.5% trading fee? That's huge--is everyone really okay with this? It would only apply to BTC/XCP.

2. I feel that getting the exchange back up soon is a good idea, so we can start to put this behind us. But someone has suggested waiting a few weeks. Which one do people favor? New security measures on Poloniex will prevent a similar exploit from having any impact, although if the XCP were stolen from a place other than Poloniex and put into Poloniex, a person could still get away with it, provided they made deposits gradually. There is also a 50 BTC minimum daily withdrawal.

That fee sounds perfectly reasonable.

I think we need to restart trading ASAP. Being down for days is bad enough; if we are down for weeks it could be devastating.

There is this rumor going around that bitcoin and counterparty are also peer to peer... 
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