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301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 26, 2019, 01:32:58 PM
So you are a goth if you dress in black now? Can't someone just dress in black or what, thanks god you are not a judge or something, you would probably send anyone to jail if he was wearing black because you must be a criminal if you are wearing black. The woman saw some IN THE PARKING LOT that she thinks was not an officer, that's what the statement says, it's really not good evidence man, let it go.

Is everyone seeing the pattern of how he is taking basically every statement I make, turning it into the most extreme or absolutist form of it he interprets, then applying it to me as if I should defend his interpretation of it? This is also known as a straw man logical fallacy. You don't have to be goth to be dressed in black, no, but are you going to tell me you regularly see groups of 4-5 men all dressed in black walking in single file lines casually in your daily life? The point is it is odd and you are trying to pretend it is totally normal with zero explanation other than the witnesses imagined everything.

Yes, the woman in the parking lot, two different witnesses, two different statements. The only person conflating the two is you. Again, you have no explanation for what an officer could possibly be shooting at from the parking lot when the source of fire was reportedly from the hotel hundreds of yards away from an elevated position. I never said it was "good evidence" of anything, simply contradictory evidence to the official narrative, among many contradictory bits of evidence in this case. Again, what is it about discussing these events and the conflicting information that upsets you so much you compulsively feel the need to end discussion about it? Cognitive dissonance much? Of course not, and everyone else is wrong for having discussions outside of the ideas you approve of. This is certainly not a symptom of you struggling with your own inability to integrate conflicting information and everything that implies.

''Again, you have no explanation for what an officer could possibly be shooting at from the parking lot when the source of fire was reportedly from the hotel hundreds of yards away from an elevated position.'' Nice try here, of course the source of the fire was from the hotel, that's where the shooter was, what does that have to do with a policeman being in the parking lot shooting? Maybe he was shooting a suspect? The witness also says, she ran past him, wtf?

Also from your own link, seems like some people apply logic and not believe things just because they are written, like you:

''I have a basic problem with this. For one thing, 11:15 is well into the near-end of the entire event, so these could be Police moving into support position. But as an investigative author, I also take acceptation two a couple of details in the statements. For one thing, both handwriting styles imply someone deliberately trying to alter their handwriting style, or being deceitful. It is more evident in the first report: the slant is variously left, straight up, and right, and there is a mix of both consistency and inconsistency in the shape of letters and numbers, as well as complete lack of, and good control. These things happen when someone lapses in and out of conscious effort to deceive and their natural writing style. Much is the same in the second, except for the slant issue, and better control... but too many letters are found in multiple variations. Finally, rare is it for any two witnesses to tell exactly the same story down to the fine details, unless rehearsed and fabricated. I call it the 'too many clues' syndrome.''
302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops. on: July 26, 2019, 01:26:55 PM
Get your cameras installed... with direct uplinks to Google and Youtube and the Net... so that they can't easily be erased if cops grab the cameras.


After being repeatedly harassed by cops, an innocent man installed cameras which caught them beating him instead



Palo Alto, CA — Gustavo Alvarez — despite not having a criminal record — says he's been repeated harassed by Palo Alto police. So, two years ago, he had surveillance cameras installed on his home in case his fears of police harassment ever materialized on his doorstep. Earlier this year, that is exactly what happened. Only because Alvarez had these cameras installed is he a free man today.

"I wanted to have proof of what they were doing because I want them to stop harassing me," Alvarez said of why he installed the cameras.

Earlier this year, police accused Alvarez — without any evidence — of driving on a suspended license. Instead of issuing a summons or a citation, the Palo Alto police department sent a unit to Alvarez's residence. When the officer confronted Alvarez, Alvarez asked him if he saw him driving a car, to which the officer replied, "No I did not."

After realizing he was simply receiving more harassment without any evidence of a crime, Alvarez went inside his home and closed the door.

"His opinion [was] that there was no legal justification to detain him," said Alvarez's attorney Cody Salfen. "And that ended up being true because the judge at the Superior Court level found that the officers lacked reasonable suspicion to detain him."

Instead of realizing they had no legal reason to detain him, the officer called for backup and a half dozen heavily armed cops showed up at Alvarez's home — over an alleged traffic ticket. One of those cops was Sgt. Wayne Benitez who appeared to take pleasure in doling out pain to the innocent gay man.

As the video shows, police rip Alvarez from his home where he is slammed on the hood of his car. Benitez then begins punching and slamming Alvarez for no reason at all. He punches Alvarez in the ribs, then the face, and then slams his face into the windshield causing Alvarez to start bleeding as a tooth is knocked loose.


Watch the video at the site.


Cool

Low iq people have a really tough time understanding personal or individual experiences vs overall statistics, that's why feminists still insist there is a wage gap or badecker still insists police is worse than ISIS because 0.001% of police does bad things.
303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Did we actually really land on moon? on: July 26, 2019, 01:24:47 PM
Two credible sources I've quoted in the last few pages:

1. Yanoff, Myron; Duker, Jay S. (2009). Ophthalmology 3rd Edition. MOSBY Elsevier. ISBN 978-0444511416.
2. Encyclopedia Britannica.

You also admitted to:

1. Never holding a sextant or using it

2. Never testing any of the claims you keep posting here

3. To not be able to calculate accurately how far the sun is.
304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mueller report sent to AG // UPDATE MAR 24 // Update **NO COLLUSION ** on: July 26, 2019, 11:12:28 AM
This was horrible, mueller was the director of the FBI? He can barely speak and he doesn't even know his own report? I understand it's a long report but it's your own for god's sake. Of course republicans came ahead, he made a fool of himself.
305  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Switchdex - A real decentralized exchange on: July 25, 2019, 01:51:48 PM
I also search for a real DEX which will remain DEX, hope we can have more in future. Anyway someone test Switchdex and all is ok, and what coins are listed there and they plan to list all top coins? And what is the official link?

Switchdex.ag is the official link and they have top coins listed, anyone can actually list any coin for free. They are based in Antigua so the US wont be able to fuck it up
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307  Economy / Services / Re: [Investor] Investing in business on: July 24, 2019, 05:31:29 AM
How do we know you are not simply looking to steal ideas from people? Are you going to sign an NDA?
308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: July 23, 2019, 07:47:23 PM

His epistemological tools do not lead him even close to the truth, so you can assume he is wrong about everything.

Like I said before, the scientific method is the best tool we have, anything else can easily lead you to mental masturbation or worse, delusion or schizophrenic episodes. You know the “I am the prophet”, “I have found the light” type of conditions.

Translation: His arguments lead to conclusions that falsify what I have arbitrarily and subjectively defined as "truth" so I am going to assume he is wrong about everything and stop thinking about his arguments.



I'm not assuming anything, you are. Your arguments show humans cannot determine whether something is true or not. It's also really easy to prove that using the scientific method works far better than simply using your reasoning and logic. For example:

Let's say you don't know much about anything. An apple falls on your head, you start to think about it, why does that happen? Will you ever be able to determine it's gravity only using your logic without performing any experiment or gathering evidence? Of course not. In fact logically, the earth could simply be accelerating upwards, that would make sense logically and would explain the apple falling.
309  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A real decentralized exchange on: July 23, 2019, 07:39:29 PM
From my point of view, Etherdelta and Forkdelta have long trusted cryptographic transactions, and none of them need proof here, because all commercial experience is so great. For safer transactions, always use a Metamasa wallet to prevent hackers.
Forkdelta and Etherdelta are the two most reputable decentralized exchanges in this market because every transaction needs to be verified, so the scam in these 2 exchanges is impossible. I have been using it for the past 2 years and until now I still use it because it is much safer than other decentralized exchanges. Maybe IDEX is more convenient to trade but recently they are forced KYC traders so those who do not like KYC will soon return to the world 2 leading decentralized exchanges.

What do you mean every transaction has to be verified? A dex is a dex, they all work in pretty much the same way and all of them are safe in that regard. No one uses etherdelta anymore, it's bugged, works like shit and people have been scammed there.
310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 23, 2019, 07:17:08 PM
I said they did see 5 guys and could have easily mistaken something for a rifle. Guys cant dress in black now? 4 guys dressed in black means they are shooters? Did someone see them shoot or not? That woman think she saw someone "whom she did not believe to be an officer". Most likely an officer lol. Your evidence is not convincing at all, you have a woman who thinks might have seen someone shooting in a parking lot but could have been an officer and a bunch of friends/people who saw a group of guys dressed in black with maybe a rifle.

Conspiracy theories are fun but often wrong.

So your theory is they were a bunch of goths running in a group? One witness saw some one shooting, yes. As I already explained, the fire was coming from high up in the hotel. Your claim is it was a cop the witness saw. What was the cop firing at if the fire was hundreds of yards away from an unidentified elevated position? Police aren't allowed to fire on a target they can't identify for safety and liability reasons. Once again, two guys plotting to rob a 7-11 is a conspiracy. It is a legal terminology, and conspiracies happen every day. Weak minded people like you who rage out over anyone even having a discussion of alternative narratives LOVE to use that word as a cudgel in an attempt to dismiss anything that upsets their sensitive state and give them a bad case of cognitive dissonance. Just perhaps, the problem is internal.



So you are a goth if you dress in black now? Can't someone just dress in black or what, thanks god you are not a judge or something, you would probably send anyone to jail if he was wearing black because you must be a criminal if you are wearing black. The woman saw some IN THE PARKING LOT that she thinks was not an officer, that's what the statement says, it's really not good evidence man, let it go.
311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: July 23, 2019, 02:24:50 PM

Well, if you agree humans cannot be ideal rational thinkers, then whats the point of bringing it up? We gain nothing with it.

Humans cannot be “ideal” anything. We can’t be ideal parents or ideal employees. We cannot be ideal athletes or ideal mathematicians.

We may not be able to achieve perfection but we can approximate it to the best of our ability. Yes we are guaranteed to fall short but to the degree we succeed everyone benefits.


But you dont know how wrong you are if you dont know the real truth, therefore you could be 99% wrong about god and you wouldnt know it.
312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: John Mcafee - Exiled - Official Trailer. on: July 23, 2019, 01:01:10 PM
https://youtu.be/npizv1QBoQ4

All about Mr Infamous Mcafee, love him or hate him, he is certainly funny and does say some really meaningful things, sometimes.  Grin

did he spoke about the anglopedojew or he is with them? Maybe was, and then didn't behave properly... who knows... it's an american, so first question, is he a pedo?

Certainly not a pedo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

Hmm....

Ehhhhh I mean, those are over 21 bro.
313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: July 23, 2019, 09:27:21 AM

There are many holes in your argument. First:

''Any number of ideal rational thinkers faced with the same situation and undergoing similar throes of reasoning agony will necessarily come up with the identical answer eventually'' How is this known?

It is known via logical deduction. If ideal rational thinkers are faced with a symmetrical situation and reasoning alone is the ultimate justification they will reach identical conclusions.

This must be true if reasoning is objective as arithmetic is.


Let's say for a moment that it's true, what does it matter for us? Humans cannot be ideal rational thinkers and even if somehow someone could, how would we ever know?

I agree we cannot be ideal rational thinkers. Our biological limitations alone guarantee that. But that does not mean we should not try. Indeed it would be idiotic not to try.

C.S. Lewis wrote a nice discussion on this point.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtTeCyrgjIQ&t=160s

Your arguments fail to really prove anything as they offer 0 evidence of anything that it's claimed there.

Not sure I am following you here. My arguments are simple logic that anyone is capable of following. What evidence are you looking for?

What a subtle way to tell him he's not human.     Cool

Ha ha I doubt the subtlety was intentional but that was funny.

Well, if you agree humans cannot be ideal rational thinkers, then whats the point of bringing it up? We gain nothing with it.
314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 23, 2019, 09:11:10 AM
Title: witness saw more than one shooter

Evidence: witness saw a bunch of people walking together, "operating as a group" and one seemd to have a rifle. So why does the title say a witness saw more than a shooter if he didnt?Huh Are you a liar?

They need to operate to operate like a group, am i operating everytime im walking with my friends or what?

From the statement in the OP "When she reached the parking lot, she saw a person whom she did not believe was an officer with an automatic powered rifle firing his gun".

From the statement in the link: "We ran through a back door and as we turned to the right, we saw about 4-5 that looked middle-eastern men walking in a single file line dressed in all black + last person in the back had a shoulder strap on AR-15."

Seems like an oddly specific thing to hallucinate a specific type of rifle, and 4 to 5 men dressed in black. Also if some one is shooting it is a pretty clear thing too. Police wouldn't have been firing return fire up into the hotel because it would be unsafe. Besides, my "REKT" was bigger and redder than yours so I win by default anyway.

I said they did see 5 guys and could have easily mistaken something for a rifle. Guys cant dress in black now? 4 guys dressed in black means they are shooters? Did someone see them shoot or not? That woman think she saw someone "whom she did not believe to be an officer". Most likely an officer lol. Your evidence is not convincing at all, you have a woman who thinks might have seen someone shooting in a parking lot but could have been an officer and a bunch of friends/people who saw a group of guys dressed in black with maybe a rifle.

Conspiracy theories are fun but often wrong.
315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 23, 2019, 06:16:14 AM
Uhh watch out, 'operating as a group' Did anyone see them shoot? No. They saw 5 guys walking around and one of them ''seemed'' to have a rifle, fantastic evidence right there.
So they need to be shooting to operate as a group? What? If this evidence is so meaningless, tell me, why is the fact that it is simply being discussed clearly upset you so much?
REKT!


Title: witness saw more than one shooter

Evidence: witness saw a bunch of people walking together, "operating as a group" and one seemd to have a rifle. So why does the title say a witness saw more than a shooter if he didnt?Huh Are you a liar?

They need to operate to operate like a group, am i operating everytime im walking with my friends or what?
316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 22, 2019, 07:25:46 PM
''and the media was quick to bury it'' That's why I said I saw plenty of news about it, how did you determine the media was quick to bury it? What analysis did you perform?

First of all, the eyewitnesses you linked said they saw 4-5 Middle-eastern looking men. Fair enough, so what? ''The 5th and final guy had what appeared to be a black assault rifle and shoulder strap across his chest,” he explained.'' You are saying he couldn't have imagined seeing a rifle on that guy's shoulder?? Seems more than possible to me lol.

''The results found that eyewitnesses were susceptible to accepting false information from other witnesses and would then include the “evidence” in their own statements.''
''Witnesses talking after an event is a pretty common phenomenon, a survey found that 86% of real eyewitnesses claim to have discussed the event with other witnesses prior to giving evidence.''
https://theconversation.com/new-research-reveals-how-little-we-can-trust-eyewitnesses-67663

You got rekt again

I didn't say there were few media reports, I said the media was QUICK to bury it. Quick is a measure of time, not quantity, therefore the fact that you saw "plenty of news about it" is irrelevant to my statement. Multiple witnesses reported this team of people operating as a group. Your quotes are just reiterations of your initial premise which I already addressed, twice.

BTW "REKT"? You mean like the last time you said I was "REKT" then ran away without a reply? What are you a hairless boy on CS GO? Are you going to scream you fucked my mom in a cracking voice now? Did you ever ask yourself why you are so upset over this discussion taking place? Great arguments again Captain Cognitive Dissonance.

Uhh watch out, 'operating as a group' Did anyone see them shoot? No. They saw 5 guys walking around and one of them ''seemed'' to have a rifle, fantastic evidence right there.
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319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Las Vegas Shooting - Witness Saw More Than One Shooter on: July 22, 2019, 05:55:42 PM
''You don't think it is at all strange that one man from so far away was able to kill and injure so many people in such a short period of time? Why is it nearly every other mass shooting there are endless details about the situation and the shooter along with their motives plastered all over, yet this incident just suddenly vanished from public consciousness without any of that examination? Stop being so willfully ignorant.'' I don't actually, why is it strange? Was this case not investigated, where did you see that?

''Eyewitness testimony — it’s often thought of as solid evidence in criminal cases, but researchers including Iowa State University’s Gary Wells have found that our memories aren’t as reliable as we think. Sometimes, we can even build false recollections about people we only think we saw.''
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/uncategorized/myth-eyewitness-testimony-is-the-best-kind-of-evidence.html

Considering how insanely stressful this event was, it's not weird at all.

Who said the case wasn't investigated? Now you are literally making up things and attributing them to me instead of arguing what I actually said. That is called a strawman and is a common logical fallacy. Furthermore it is a clear demonstration of your bias, because you aren't even critically examining any of the information that is presented before you project your own concepts of what you think it is upon it. I said in other cases the information is made public and plastered all over, and in this case they barely released any information and the media was quick to bury it, which is very unusual considering how hard they beat the dead horse of any mass shooting in almost every other case.

Your link doesn't prove anything. I never said witness testimony is infallible. I did however say errors in witness testimony are usually related to mistaken identity or mistakes in relatively minor details. Stress doesn't make you hallucinate entire teams of armed men. Furthermore there are now multiple witness statements coming out that state there were other shooters, I guess they are all hallucinating huh? You are so obviously terrified of having to adjust your world view to incorporate the possibility of this new information. You are looking for any excuse at all to dismiss the mounting evidence that something other than what was reported happened because you can not handle the cognitive dissonance. You aren't examining or arguing the issues, you are summarily dismissing them.

"Stress doesn't make you hallucinate entire teams of armed men. " according to science it does. Stress and anxiety can cause hallucinations.

Ive also seen plenty of news about the incident and even a recollection of the events prior to the attack, perhaps you are hallucinating too.

First of all, you are just repeating your poor argument from before that I already addressed. Seconds of all, you are mischaracterizing the statement. It is common for people to MISIDENTIFY the identity of individuals they witnessed. It is not common for people to imagine they saw people that never existed to begin with. The statement is referring to false identification, not imagining non-existent people. If your argument was about mistaken identity you might have a point, but you are projecting your own meaning on to words the authors never intended to imply. According to science huh? Now you speak for the field of science? How exactly does the fact that you have seen "plenty of news" invalidate witness testimony? Do you ever wonder why you are so hostile over anyone asking questions about a mass murder? It couldn't be cognitive dissonance could it?

''and the media was quick to bury it'' That's why I said I saw plenty of news about it, how did you determine the media was quick to bury it? What analysis did you perform?

First of all, the eyewitnesses you linked said they saw 4-5 Middle-eastern looking men. Fair enough, so what? ''The 5th and final guy had what appeared to be a black assault rifle and shoulder strap across his chest,” he explained.'' You are saying he couldn't have imagined seeing a rifle on that guy's shoulder?? Seems more than possible to me lol.

''The results found that eyewitnesses were susceptible to accepting false information from other witnesses and would then include the “evidence” in their own statements.''
''Witnesses talking after an event is a pretty common phenomenon, a survey found that 86% of real eyewitnesses claim to have discussed the event with other witnesses prior to giving evidence.''
https://theconversation.com/new-research-reveals-how-little-we-can-trust-eyewitnesses-67663

You got rekt again

320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health and Religion on: July 22, 2019, 05:44:28 PM
As a philosophical matter it seems nice but not as science. A logical truth is 100% true in all situations, right? That can exist, the problem is, how can you know that? Have you been in all of those possible situations and if you haven't, how can you claim it's a logical truth?

Here is what the AI researcher Douglas Hofstadter wrote on the topic. The answer to your question is in the realization that reasoning is not subjective.

“You might feel that each person is completely unique and therefore that no one can be relied on as a predictor of how other people will act, especially in an intensely dilemmatic situation. There is more to the story, however.

Any number of ideal rational thinkers faced with the same situation and undergoing similar throes of reasoning agony will necessarily come up with the identical answer eventually, so long as reasoning alone is the ultimate justification for their conclusion. Otherwise reasoning would be subjective, not objective as arithmetic is. A conclusion reached by reasoning would be a matter of preference, not of necessity. Now some people may believe this of reasoning, but rational thinkers understand that a valid argument must be universally compelling, otherwise it is simply not a valid argument.

If you’ll grant this, then you are 90% of the way. All you need ask now is which world is better for the individual rational thinker: (one with thinkers all cooperating or all defecting)
...
Since I am typical, cooperating must be preferred by all rational thinkers. So I’ll cooperate.” Another way of stating it, making it sound weirder, is this: “If I choose cooperation, then everyone will choose cooperation.”
...
“We live in a world filled with opposing belief systems so similar as to be nearly interchangeable, yet whose adherents are blind to that symmetry. This description applies not only to myriad small, conflicts in the world but also to the colossal... Yet the recognition of symmetry - in short, the sanity - has not yet come. In fact, the insanity seems only to grow, rather than be supplanted by sanity. What has an intelligent species like our own done to get itself into this horrible dilemma? What can it do to get itself out? Are we all helpless as we watch this spectacle unfold, or does the answer lie, for each one of us, in recognition of our own typicality, and in small steps taken on an individual level toward sanity?”
...
“To many people, this sounds like a belief in voodoo or sympathetic magic, a vision of a universe permeated by tenuous threads of synchronicity, conveying thoughts from mind to mind like pneumatic tubes carrying messages across Paris, and making people resonate to a secret harmony. Nothing could be further from the truth. This solution depends in no way on telepathy or bizarre forms of causality. It’s just that the statement “I’ll choose C and then everyone will”, though entirely correct, is somewhat misleadingly phrased. It involves the word “choice”, which is incompatible with the compelling quality of logic. Schoolchildren do not choose what 507 divided by 13 is; they figure it out. Analogously, my letter really did not allow choice; it demanded reasoning. Thus, a better way to phrase the “voodoo” statement would be this: “If reasoning guides me to say C, then, as I am no different from anyone else as far as rational thinking is concerned, it will guide everyone to say C.””


There are many holes in your argument. First:

''Any number of ideal rational thinkers faced with the same situation and undergoing similar throes of reasoning agony will necessarily come up with the identical answer eventually'' How is this known?

Let's say for a moment that it's true, what does it matter for us? Humans cannot be ideal rational thinkers and even if somehow someone could, how would we ever know?

Your arguments fail to really prove anything as they offer 0 evidence of anything that it's claimed there.
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