As per title, I'm looking for a G-Black to play with. I may consider a few G-Blades depending on price. For the G-Blades, bare PCBs are fine to save on international shipping. For those who will think the price is too low, please note that A2 scrypt asics are selling "new" for 10-13$/MH If I wanted to somehow expect ROI, I'd buy A2 instead of Gridseed. Edit, Alcheminers are close to 5$/MH, so I should even offer less for the Gridseeds
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My results are 0.44w/GH par 11.1v Under 11v. Miner starts but dies after a few minutes. At 10v and lower, it doesn't start hashing., but you have access to the web interface. Stock efficiency with the same PSU is 0.54w/GH
Yeah I don't think I've heard anyone claiming they would run under 10.8V. You have access to the web interface because it doesn't affect the controller it's probably BM1384 chip I/O of some kind or other. We have a BM1384 on our breakout board running at 0.625V right now, which would be 9.375V into an S5. It's not a chip limitation, it's a miner design limitation. -- novak Good to know that it's the design. Maybe a simple trick could allow lower voltage to the S5, then. I'll have a look at an S5 board. I have one to RMA anyway, so it'll be removed from the unit today. BTW, if the design wasn't good for lower voltage, it could have been upgraded for later batches, since it seems minor changes were made like changing the data conector from 16 to 18 pins...
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Efficiency doesn't change much with clock speed because although dropping the clock reduces power consumption, it also reduces hashrate, and both are approximately linear effects. The way to boost power efficiency is if you could also undervolt- something that apparently does not work well at all on the S5.
The BM1384 chip on the S5 theoretically allows significant undervolt but even apart from the difficulty of finding high efficiency 8-10V power (required as the S5 is a string miner) the S5 has something which evidently just doesn't work if you drop the voltage much. Sidehack has said he suspects the (chained) clock line, at any rate some of the chained signals and the related I/O voltages are most likely suspect. As far as I know no one has taken the time to mod an S5 to be able to undervolt or could tell you what is going wrong for certain.
-- novak
My results are 0.44w/GH par 11.1v Under 11v. Miner starts but dies after a few minutes. At 10v and lower, it doesn't start hashing., but you have access to the web interface. Stock efficiency with the same PSU is 0.54w/GH
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Anyone know where i can get some S5 Data extension cable, i can't seem to be able to find any anywhere.
For 16 pin or 18 pin connector ? The connector look very similar to this: http://www.te.com/catalog/bin/TE.Connect?C=17259&M=PPROP&P=10008,115303,99330&BML=&LG=1&PG=1&IDS=479054,479055,479056,479057,479058,479059,479060,479039,479040,479049,479050,479051,479052,479053,479024,479038,479061,479062,479063,479064&N=20but there is no "dual row" ones with locking interface
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numnutz2009 I appolgize it appears i had a different number in my head then listed. I have never underclocked it near the .2 level. Yes I read it. I just made a assumption, it appears my assumption of BM1384 chips was wrong.
Anyways happy mining to you.
np just wanted to make sure u replied since i have noticed people read a few posts and when they hit one disputing something another poster said or asking if its true they dont continue reading they just take that as being fact and spread wrong info so hopefully others will question y what i mentioned wasnt provided but promised and since its not provided y wasnt some sort of compensation given to those that purchased the miner (in my case at 100+ more then the current price because it was batch #2 directly from bitmain) based on false untested claims that were later found to be lies and were silently changed. it was so silent that up until the 29th of march i had no effin clue about the change. i read that maybe a firmware update will allow better functionality for under volting them down to 9v because as they sit they dont unde rvolt at all reallyand any changes below 12v make the miner act all sketch causing mining issues or the controller wont detect the boards at all so i emailed them asking what the exact model 9v 10a psu was used so i can try it out myself with the same hardware they used to test it but sure enough i soon found out that they didnt actually test their bold ass claims. sure i wont run at 9v right now because .5w per gh/s is fine for many people but when the diff gets higher or electricity costs go up then undervolting was supposed to be there to allow us to run them at a much higher efficiency rating so they can be in service longer then they would be if they couldnt be under volted but all in all i know i cant be the only person that saw those numbers and was thinking exactly what i stated above....no one likes buying new hardware....especially when their current hardware never hit a roi point so even at a slightly higher cost we were suppose to be able to basically hit or get much closer to the roi point if the diff started going up by leaps and bounds like it has in the past now we are stuck with once .5w per gh/s isnt worth it anymore we have to sell these and start all over again with new miners....i wonder y they havent replied to this thread yet.....probably the same reason this threads op didnt reply to my pm when i got my s5 and had problems seeing the "quietness" of the miners.....sad. I replied to your PM, I'll try different things, but I'll probably still hit the 0.44 W/GH wall. Sidehack will also probably soon report efficiency from his project based on the same chip.
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Would you take an Antec true power quattro 1200w? I don't really know what it's worth now, I got it as an exchange from Antec, used it for maybe 4 months. If interested, I'll take pics with the original package and cables. Edit: This it the "OC" version of the TPQ1200, like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371039
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I'd take them if I was local, or at least the hashing boards+controller shipped to France to reduce costs if you don't mind disassembling and shipping.
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You actually have 1 breakout board and 2 grounding bars in this picture. A 2880w platinum "kit" will cost you 70$ for the breakout board (less if you need more), 50-60$ for the PSU, and up to 20 cables. Let's even round it to 200$ all inclusive for something easy to setup. If it was for a smaller PSU, around 1000w with only 4 PCI-E cables needed, I'd say "why not", but I'd advise you to read what was written by the guy who did direct solder the cables on this PSU: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=893159.msg10200693#msg10200693
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Do you have reseller or supplier in Australia?
No, but I can either ship them myself for now, or have them shipped from US. I already had a few requests/buyers from Australia for my different boards, so, depending on the potential market size, someone who wants to resell any/all of my boards can contact me.
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j4bberwock, do you have any more of these boards in stock? HolyBitcoin doesn't have them listed as an available product.
I'm currently finishing the assembly of the first batch after some trouble with out of specs connectors. For the US market, you can contact Finksy, he have them in stock.
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Thanks for the info J4bberwock , start looking for the regular PSU rite now , the reason i dont want to order PSU from other my country is the F*C*kin Tax are too high now , The customs just kick me with 35% tax from the original Bitmain price.....damn
Best Regards
Where are you from? I belived only Europe had taxes so high. And mine are usually around 20-25% + 15€ for DHL/Fedex paperwork for everything valued over 25€
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wheew , 2-3 weeks delay that something for small miner like me thanks for the reply J4bberwock I know, that's why it's easier to use PSUs with already existing breakout boards. To explain the delay: I'm more than busy with other orders until end of week. Then, creation of the board, and prototyping on one PSU will take 1-2 days. Delay from the time files are sent for PCB manufacturing until I get the boards back is usually 8 days. Assembly and tests, 24 hours So 2 weeks is a fair target, can slip up to 3 weeks in case something went wrong. You can still simply hardwire the PSUs using the infos you can get here: http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/1/3/5/4/3/a3937509-230-DPS-1570%20Full%20Pinout%20Final.jpgI have a few connectors for this PSU somewhere in my stock, so I'll probably make a board for it anyway.
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I can have some done, but it'll be 2-3 weeks delay, and price will be around 40$ each excluding shipping since it's a really small quantity. 30% will be paid in advance.
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Is shipping to France available? If you have broken hashing blades, I'm interested too.
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What is the best way to overheat the miner to check if it will shut down at 80C?
Put something infront of the front fan?
disconnecting the fan, is probably easier
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I've got 3 new 220v 30a lines being installed today. Might have to look at trying one or three out when you solve the fan noise issue.
Currently working on it. http://imgur.com/a/VrL81#0
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I'd have to check my notes, but I don't believe it would start at 10V. I had to start it at a higher voltage and then turn it down as it was running. If I had to guess it's a limitation of the string design as opposed to the chip itself. The numbers Bitmain gave are likely accurate for those voltages, the S5 just won't get there. Hence why they removed the language in their thread that it could be run at 9V.
The best stable voltage I could get it to run was 11v. Anything from 10.0v to 10.8v, the miner started but stopped after 10-30 minutes hashing. I asked Yoshi from Bitmain if they could help understand why it failed, but got no answer on this specific subject. Starting at 12v and lowering voltage down to 10.8v gave me the same results as starting at 10.8v: few minutes hashing, then stop.
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you can also simply underclock it to reach the power consumption / heat dissipation you want. more or less half the speed, half the watts if you don't touch voltage
Edit: philipma1957 was faster.
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I know I've been more than busy for a long time, and it's still the case, but yesterday, I decided to take a break for 1 hour to assemble the S3 upgrade kits I just received. And I decided to try my good old USB control interface on it. here is the result with latest CGminer from bitmaintech website: https://i.imgur.com/ubS6i9z.png?1Next step will be to check what's needed to make it work on a native S3 or an S5 Since I don't have enough hours in a day at the moment to work on it as fast as I'd like, I'll offer for download the latest files for the 2 port controller in a few days, after I review them and finally solder some of the boards I received from the latest revision. The design can be easily upgraded to allow BE200 based units interface. I'll still slowly continue the work on the 8 ports interface, at least for myself.
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