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3261  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 17, 2022, 11:17:14 AM
I probably won't be able to log in the forum for the next 24 hours or so.

For one thing, I had a good opinion of Royse777 before this and would like to get this resolved and remove his tag. I think there are many of you who have expressed a similar opinion.

But on the other hand, my gut tells me that when things like this happen, this may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Royse777 is not only representing bitlucy, he is the CEO from it. He did this project with 1-2 other people. There is no "team".
Royse777 thought he could be rich very quickly with stealing deposits and not pay out.
I warned people in the first days already this site is scam and Royse777 can not be trusted. He is a DTM (Default Trust Muppet) and abuses his status.
its good that the site is closed on the forum, before more victims will come up.

I read your post history and found it interesting how accurately you predicted how it would all end. But this is a forum, and your word alone is not proof of anything.

Do you know anything about the bounty campaign I mentioned above?
3262  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 17, 2022, 08:36:04 AM
Someone who knows more than me about bounties can help check if what this person says is true or is lying?

He/she deserves all the red tag from anyone who feels red tag should be given. Because of his/her clumsiness and bad management, all the participants of lunaland (an alt campaign managed by Royse777) didn't get a single payment despite how successful the project was back then, it was suppose to be a weekly payment but rosey never follow up to ensure participants of signature get their weekly payment,  he rarely answered questions in the bounty telegram group, instead of sincerely apologise for the mismanagement of the campaign he threatened to red tag anyone who dare challenge his/her incompetence (not to mention he/she got paid regardless).

Participants of that bounty never reported Royse777 because of the influence he/she has here in the forum. This is another way of scam, not necessarily direct scam. I would be red tagging him/her if I have the power. What is worth doing is worth doing well.

The thread in question is this one, I think:

LunaLand FLY ME TO THE MOON [Bounty] 💰🕵🏻‍♂$15,000 in LLN🥳

People who have a grudge against Royse777, like bounty cheaters, can take advantage of these moments to tell lies about her, but also after the last events, I think it's worth checking things like this.
3263  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 17, 2022, 06:26:49 AM
* if you have open issue with BitLucy make sure you've filled the google form; today is the last day for that (!) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395791.msg60373594#msg60373594

I've already said above whith a screnshot that that form says that people have to previously explain their case in the locked thread. So, I don't know how they are going to do that.
3264  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Budweiser also entered the world of the cryptocurrency Industry on: June 17, 2022, 03:10:02 AM
True. Everybody's going for NFTs since the big entertainments businesses are already in this direction. UFC has NFTs, NBA has its NFTs too, just a lay up view of someone popular can be an expensive NFT. This horse racing will be not difficult to have something like this as well.

I think this is the right time while the markets are about to hit to lowest. 

I'm not so sure about that. 99% of NFTs that exist today will be worth 0 in a few years. If you guess the one that will be worth a lot it will be like winning the lottery but chances are you will lose your money.

In this type of NFTs may have more future because if buying a NFT of an NBA team for example, gives you discounts for games, preferential tickets, etc. will have a certain demand because it has a clear utility.

3265  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 17, 2022, 02:48:35 AM
Hi guys, first post here. I was wondering if anyone has the Telegram of user ''Bislom'' ? He claimed to know the owner of Roysee and I would like to talk to him, have some information (chats and much more)

I don't think so. Send him a PM to see, although he's not very often online. I think he's someone's alt account, so if he reads this maybe he'll send you a PM.

I have nothing personal against Royse777, and when I acted in support of the flag and with the feedback, I explicitly said that it is subject to review, as usual.

But I also believe that there have been no more red tags or flags because of the previous reputation and because she has given lots of jobs in campaigns to many people in the forum. In fact, there has not yet been an opposition to the flag nor a neutral tag in her favor.

Closing the Bitlucy thread ahead of schedule, when those who had the problems with withdrawals there were supposed to explain it in that thread before filling in the form doesn't look good to me.

I would like to hear more opinions from DT on this topic, especially from those of you who are more neutral, as it is clear that there are many of you who have a clear empathy for her.

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I can think that she somewhat got caught in the middle of this.

But I would also say that if this case were to happen with a campaign manager with less experience and less previous reputation she would have a lot more red tags.

I've been in communication with Royse777, and he's not done trying to get everyone refunded.  We'll see how things transpire.

I hope this will happen, and when done, let's remove the tags and call it a day.
3266  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 16, 2022, 08:05:24 PM
Since the site has decided to not promote on the forum any longer does this mean withdrawals are not being honored?

It looks like it.

Besides, in cases like this, whenever I have seen those we have asked for explanations to blame us, things have not ended well. It is very typical.

Bitlucy website is down again as we speak, so it's impossible for anyone to withdraw their coins now, unless they did it already.
I would hold on tagging and blaming manager Royse for everything, but I am going to tag Bitlucy account myself for their amateurish behavior and for blaming others for their own mistakes.

I also tagged Bitlucy but it's useless because they are not going to come back here.

Since the site has decided to not promote on the forum any longer does this mean withdrawals are not being honored?

I'd guess that the (few?) cases written until tomorrow into the provided google form will be handled and, if it's the case, honored...
At least that's what Royse777 wrote here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395791.msg60373594#msg60373594



If you go to the form you'll see that whoever has a problem first has to explain the problem in the ANN thread, which Royse777 has locked a few hours later.
3267  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 16, 2022, 07:45:32 PM
I just had a talk with one of their customer services rep via live chat and apparently the CEO joined in on our talk as well judging by the tag next to their name. I expressed some concern for the way withdrawals have been handled so far and asked if they processed their player's withdrawals yesterday at 20:00 CET as announced earlier. They said they did.

I asked them to submit some proof or a status update in this thread or in their gambling ANN that shows that withdrawals are being processed and they promised to do that at the end of the day. Probably after 20:00 CET. After the status update, we can follow the comments of players to see if their withdrawals have been sent or if there are still negative comments from their users about non-processed transactions.  

Was this the thread you were referring to Pmalek?

BitLucy.com 🎰 no more in bitcointalk

It has been locked by Royse777 in well under 24 hours since she appeared this morning.

Moreover, the bitlucy site is down.

Two and a half hours after you wrote the message that I quote, Royse777 has written this:

Quote
The management of BitLucy has decided to cut off all connections from bitcointalk and I am not officially representing bitlucy on bitcointalk anymore, according to them it's hostile to conduct a business in the forum especially a new business who are still in their baby steps...

Furthermore, there will be no more promotions, no official representation from bitlucy in this forum too.

So it doesn't seem very likely that they will come around here to explain themselves when they are basically putting the blame on us.

On the other hand, Royse777 has and launched another signature campaign.

[OPEN] [banned mixer] 🔥 Signature campaign! Sr+

In which there is a guy complaining:

WARNING

The campaign manager Royse777 is guilty of being a team member of a fraudulent project Bitlucy.com casino.

By participating in this campaign, you run the risk of losing your efforts for nothing.
Review the previous campaign he managed and how the weekly payment of the participants was delayed while he was inactive not responding to payment claims.

Check his trust page to see active flags and unsolved accusation cases.
3268  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitLucy.com 🎰 no more in bitcointalk on: June 16, 2022, 03:17:50 PM
Bitcointalk is certainly not a hostile place for any legitimate serious business, years long promotional campaigns are proof for that, it's more likely that bitlucy owners are not very smart amateurs.

I can't help but feel this comment is somewhat directed at me for questioning Royse777's response in the Reputation board, and tagging him after he posted that the site was back on line.  It's really unfortunate to see a reputable member implode like this, and blame the community for his failings.  What's more unfortunate, however is that many clients are still waiting for their withdrawals.  What are the odds they'll be getting their money back now?

I think your feeling is wrong.

It is clear that between Royse777 and dkbit98 there is empathy. But all dkbit98 is doing here is criticizing the casino owners and what they said that bitcointalk has become a hostile site. I and many others have criticized that sentence in recent comments as well.
3269  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitLucy.com 🎰 no more in bitcointalk on: June 16, 2022, 02:27:42 PM
The management of BitLucy has decided to cut off all connections from bitcointalk and I am not officially representing bitlucy on bitcointalk anymore, according to them it's hostile to conduct a business in the forum especially a new business who are still in their baby steps.

It is not the first time I have seen such a statement, which consists of telling those of us who are asking for things to be done right that it is our fault. And these things don't usually end well.

I have warned everyone in this forum that they are scam still waiting for my
own deposit that they keep to be withdrawn. Really sad that many users of the forum supported
this site from the beginning i lost all my trust in bitcointalkforum really very sad about that.
Almost 2 months since they opened promising things now they just announced by royse they are leaving
bitcointalk forum......No words. At least i was honest when accussing them of fraud scam etc and tried
to warn all the users in the forum

Have you been waiting for the funds to arrive to you since the end of April?
3270  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 16, 2022, 02:11:48 PM
I am completely confused.
Don't be. He got his words out already.

To you two and the rest I recommend that you read the posts of a profile who claims to know Royse007 personally.

The most amazing thing is that someone named Bislom has been warning everyone about this from the very beginning with a lot of confidence so that he knows everything.

Obviously, this is a forum and anyone could be telling lies, but if in the end this is an exit scam it is very likely that what she says is true.

I doubt if it will be an alt account.
3271  Economy / Reputation / Re: The curious case of user 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on: June 16, 2022, 11:45:15 AM
I'm still here because I didn't do anything wrong. I wouldn't have tried joining a signature campaign if I was sitting on millions of dollars of bitcoins, lol.

Sure, sure, and the other day you wanted to gamble playing heads or tails in amounts of 50 Bitcoins at a time because you were feeling a little sad.
    
Places where you can bet 50 BTC on 50/50 odds?

Either you were lying then or you are lying now, and looking at your trust page I don't believe your explanations.
3272  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 16, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
I've tagged the official account bitlucy to warn everyone off the site for now!
I don't think this is enough to warn everyone about this site since the user who posted the ANN is Royse777. I saw there's a negative feedback left by @DireWolfM14, sure anyone who logged in this forum can see the trust. But if someone didn't log in with his account, the trust feedback wouldn't shown. So, to warn everyone about this withdrawal problem, I have created flag type 1 on Royse777 account.

I ask anyone to support this flag
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2984

I've supported the flag and tagged Royse777. This is obviously open to change if problems are solved, as I did recently in the fairspin.io case.
3273  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you think about this Golf Strategy? Is it worth trying it? on: June 16, 2022, 04:54:40 AM
I don't know much about sports betting but I am interested in the fact that skilled players can win in the long run. I will follow the thread to see how it works out for you.

I do not think this is valuable at all, this is much like martingale which might sound good in theory but in practical might not be a good option.

I think it has nothing to do with martingale.

Expected profit here is €600 approx.

Risk: €5,350

I haven't stopped to crunch the numbers. Do you mean that based on the bets and odds you will bet €5,350 and the expected profit value is €5,950?

What happens is that with such low odds you will have to place quite a few bets of that kind to win any bet. And then you have to take into account the variance. I hope you have a good bankroll to withstand several rounds of this type without winning.
3274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is crypto winter setting in.. and how long will it last on: June 16, 2022, 04:48:12 AM
I have been saying this since the beginning of this year, when people were still saying we were in a delayed cycle and would pass $100K this year. I think even Dan Held was still betting on a supercycle at the beginning of the year.

Not until next halving are we going to beat last year's $70K ath. Where we are now we can call it winter or whatever, but great joys we won't have until next cycle.
3275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bonus Abuse: Who is to Blame? on: June 16, 2022, 04:37:06 AM
I also think both are to blame, but knowing this, a casino must put measures in place so that this does not happen, or at least that the impact is minimal, in the same way that supermarkets put measures in place to avoid being robbed, although it is inevitable that at the end of the year a small percentage of items will be stolen.

I thought this in Bilucy's case. It is one thing if you have half a dozen people abusing you, but when you have such a large number that you have to stop operating, it means that you have had bad foresight and bad management.
3276  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 16, 2022, 04:31:03 AM
Royse777 hasn't logged in for the past two days and so far there is no news of withdrawn funds reaching the players. I have had a look at the thread and I will bring this quote:


I doesn't look good. Even if this is resolved, it seems to me that the site's reputation will be tarnished.
3277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bill prohibiting crypto currency as means of payment on review. on: June 15, 2022, 04:34:55 AM
Those who have made this bill do not understand it. Prohibiting only gives wings to Bitcoin, what really stifles it is to allow it by regulating it extremely, forcing AML/KYC protocols to the maximum and measures like blacklisting, because in the end you help an industry to flourish in a very different way from the original idea of P2P and you end up directing it to centralized systems and censorship which is what suits you.

The many bans on Bitcoin since its inception have not prevented its exponential growth, but the latest legislation and the reduction of privacy mean that the enemy is at home.
3278  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitLucy.com 🎰 4:1 screen at once, 🕡 back in online! on: June 15, 2022, 04:26:03 AM
Update: No withdrawals were sent at 6pm GMT, lets hope they start to process some tomorrow. I re-submitted the one they cancelled at roughtly 4PM and still havent recieved anything. Its now over a week waiting.

The site seems to have hardly changed and interestingly the excuse support were giving me all last week was that they were busy upgrading to add instant withdrawals 'within the next 24 hours'... 6 days later they clearly havent done that at all.

Any news? I ask you and all those who are waiting to receive their withdrawals. Normally people in these threads usually protest but in some cases they don't come back to say that the problem has been solved.

There is a thread in the reputation section questioning what is going on and at the moment Royse777 has been negative tagged by a DT member.

I am going to wait a bit, but I see the site is working.
3279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Japanese man gambled away a huge Covid-19 relief funds mistakenly sent to him on: June 15, 2022, 04:20:23 AM
I see a couple of things to comment here.

To begin with, there are those who believe that if you get money in your account by mistake, you have the right to spend it. False. You have to pay it back.

The man in the story has all the appearance of being a problem gambler, and the saddest thing is that he spent what was originally intended for low-income households, but you can see at the end of the news that the authorities have sent them the money back without waiting for the man in the story to return it.

At least the story has had a happy ending, now the man has to pay back the money.
3280  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable? on: June 15, 2022, 03:34:35 AM
It's still strange how the entire forum came out for Lightlord...

That's simply not true. I created the thread:

Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable?

And I can tell you that he was treated rather leniently by the community at large because of his previous reputation. However, The Pharmacist did not hesitate for a second to tag him because he had already done so in the past for the same reasons, switching to neutral afterwards. Then some other members thought the same but in general there was debate on the subject so saying that the whole forum came out for him is false.

Not many people rushed to give Lightlord negative feedback, and I was first to say to give a guy a break if he was really sick, even if some people never trusted him about that.

That's true

In case of Royse777 I am asking for patience and let's wait until we can see some clear answers from him.

I also agree to have a little patience, because also in this case, unlike Lightlord's, as far as I know with Royse777 there have been no previous problems with withdrawals in casinos in which she has been involved in the past.

Lightlord received his first red tag less than 24 hours after the thread was created, while he was in a coma and unable to defend himself, and people were busy passing judgment even before he responded to the thread- he fixed his mess, but his tag was never removed.

Look, if you want to open a thread in defense of Lightlord I will answer you there, since what you are questioning is more than explained already.

As far as I know, there are 4 of us in DT that we keep the red tag. And the one who did not hesitate for 24 hours was The Pharmacist, as I explained aobve.

Going back to the point of the thread:

... and the bitlucy website has been down for over 24 hours.  Maybe it's too early to call it an exit scam.  Or is it?

I've just checked and it's not down.
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