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341  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 11:31:04 AM
Bitstamp | Total bids: 3230081 USD. Total asks: 8699 BTC. Ratio: 371.29663 USD/BTC

This doesn't mean anything, you are overlooking it... a correction to $250 is possible maybe followed with some stability for few days then the downtrend will continue till we hit the bottom (double digits, lower double digits)
342  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 12:56:14 AM
Bitstamp | Total bids: 2966347 USD. Total asks: 11304 BTC. Ratio: 262.39544 USD/BTC

The ask side is almost empty, I think most of people send coins and dump them right away because of fear and uncertainty .... the next couple of days people will be wiring money to exchanges either to buy right away or to open limit orders, which can bring some stability (maybe a bounce back to 2xx?) for a couple of days before crashing again.


one thing for sure, miners will be dumping like there will be no tomorrow, most of the hoarded coins will enter the market soon.
[Rationalizing]

The picture is the same on Bitfinex which didn't have its orders cleared out: Bitfinex | Total bids: 4695435 USD. Total asks: 16226 BTC. Ratio: 289.36067 USD/BTC.

I've been posting the same snapshots when it was on the bearish tilt a couple days ago. Funnily, you weren't hear to tell me about how it's all just nonsense.

Face it man, you used to be a bitcoin cultist who insulted me because I was bearish, and now you became a bear cultist who insults me when I sometimes turn bullish. Sad

If you didn't notice, I were off for a couple of months, I visited only to quickly check my PMs and some other topics (Slovenian Sub forum), but it doesn't matter, one thing I am not going to argue about, yes I was one of the biggest bulls over here for sure, but I was never a cultist.... but I don't remember insulting you when you turn bullish !! did I ? doesn't matter, I am sorry If I did, because I know that you are one of the few objective people here.
343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 12:43:44 AM
Bitstamp | Total bids: 2966347 USD. Total asks: 11304 BTC. Ratio: 262.39544 USD/BTC

The ask side is almost empty, I think most of people send coins and dump them right away because of fear and uncertainty .... the next couple of days people will be wiring money to exchanges either to buy right away or to open limit orders, which can bring some stability (maybe a bounce back to 2xx?) for a couple of days before crashing again.


one thing for sure, miners will be dumping like there will be no tomorrow, most of the hoarded coins will enter the market soon.
344  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 12:39:54 AM
Price just went from $280 to $165 the last 48 hours, bulls tells you everything is OK... price bounced back to $185 (+20) and bulls start posting CCMF ... are you really this desperate ? you should be selling when you were profitable....


BTW, just please don't think about harming your self when we hit single digits, OK ?
345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2015, 12:35:40 AM
I feel like the last 13 months were a dream and I just woke up to great news!

you are desperate, you really need help...
346  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 11:26:19 PM
These people ( Risto is just a member of the cult, the crazy one) who talk about how governments are oppressive, injustice and a group of thugs are using their right of freedom of expression, at the same time they delete, censorship and ban everything that contradict or don't serve their argument, talk about double standards.


imagine having these people in power....we will be just fucked up

The only time he has ever deleted my comments were when I was trolling him.

If you dont like his thread moderation skills, make your own and stop crying about how he decides to operate his threads.

Thanks  Grin

you know, like the one we made now ?
347  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer--Financial Advice From The Mentally Ill on: January 14, 2015, 10:50:00 PM
These people ( Risto is just a member of the cult, the crazy one) who talk about how governments are oppressive, injustice and a group of thugs, are using their right of freedom of expression, at the same time they delete, censorship and ban everything that contradict or don't serve their argument, talk about double standards.


imagine having these people in power....we will be just fucked up
348  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 09:29:26 PM
I know a couple of large miners that are having a real hard time now, unfortunately not only them but many miners are having the "talk" about if they continue mining and cover the lost from their own pockets, or simply shutdown their operations and sell the BTC they are hoarding in case of the price falls further.


I am also curious if Chinese manufacturers will continue inflating the market with their hardware, and at what point it will become unprofitable for them to continue the production.
349  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: January 14, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Bitcoiners want to get billionaires quick with their little scheme, call noobs that are trying to get out of the mess late "greedy".

It is no secret that I sold some at $675 in 2013. The next exit zone starts earliest at $3,000, probably higher.

It is no greed to sell at a bottom, it is just stupid. Stuff is as valuable as a year ago (or more, due to more adoption, etc.), yet 75% cheaper. This is a game and you are offered 4 times better odds than last time when you took them. Instead of taking them now, or holding, you decide to fold.

If anyone becomes a billionaire with bitcoin, he deserves it. So many chances of folding were offered but he held on.

There is voice of reason in the midst of so much babbling nonsense.  Thanks Risto.  Smiley  

I am having to argue a bit with BitchicksHusband a little about not folding right now though.   I guess it is hard not to get emotional.  We did have to sell some of our holdings in December but bought back a little last week.  I think the hardest thing to wrap my brain around is the fact that BTC should be so much more valuable with all of the infrastructure that has been put into place during 2014.  Why hasn't some of the money used to build this infrastructure been used to boost the price up a bit?  Aren't these companies at all concerned about BTC users getting disillusioned and leaving BTC completely?  

Because "boosting the price" serves only get rich quick kids like you and at this point it has no real effect on the fundamentals, BTC works whether it is $1 or $1000, for the volume of current transactions it will still work if it is $5, Venture capitalist chose the lower risk and most profitable investment which is investing in companies instead of investing in Bitcoin.

BTW, the companies don't care about hoarders (people like you) because they don't make any money from you, so why would they care about you leaving? in fact the contrary, if you leave you will make them a favor because your hoarded coins will offer more liquidity , and more liquidity will help Bitcoin to mature.
350  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 08:18:39 PM
still with the beartrolls spewing their vitriol and wallowing in the effluent of their toxic hatefest ...

nice place you got here adam ... time to lock it up maybe? this thread is stinking up the joint.

"Je suis Charlie"

Look at this goofy fuck that has a problem with using the ignore button when someone isn't acting according to his dogma. Who's stopping you, huh ? Shut your ass up and do what you do best and that is... losing money.

Leave me and my intelligent bear buddies alone.

wallow, wallow you hateful little pigs ... bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered.

and you are just a pig, an amateur pig, a pig that has been so long around and should know better but instead he joined the Bitcoin cult, I am sure you will have problems integrating to society if Bitcoin fails.
351  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 07:01:22 PM
So now after this we will have a bubble right ? I was promised $10K, are we still on track ?

352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 04:20:30 PM
Bitstamp must be kicking themselves for not charging fees right now.

I was thinking about the same thing, they disabled fees at the wrong time, but it wasn't really on their hand.
353  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 02:44:42 PM

The more I talk to people like you the more I love my camel. Wink

BTW: that picture in my profile is a piece of historical art...not that you really know what art or who Etienne dinet is



Well, he was a tit man that's for sure.




Phwoooooaaaarrr!

yes, so many tits, tits everywhere... also nature and architecture.

354  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 01:26:58 PM
fun fact : i got my credit card hacked two times on the net last year and each time my bank refund me within 10 days to protect me.

More than bitcoin can ever do


only an idiot lets their credit card get hacked ... and your credit card fees include costs for all the other idiots who let their cards get hacked and the idiot companies that 'secure' all the massive credit card databases ... basically its a bog hack system that costs a lot of of money to keep patching up

secure bitcoin properly and it never gets hacked and you never pay more than you have to, or paying for others incompetence.

PS: you're credit card was basically worthless last time i looked anyway  Wink

Edit: take Bitstamp as an example when it comes to security, if they cant secure their exchange how do you expect a normal user to do so ?

Bitcoin is redefining the security measures in IT, when a single file is so important and critical, it is really dangerous for the masses at this point, we need to put more effort to make it secure, user friendly, tweaked for larger adoption and especially regulated so the scums and crooks don't find a heaven in it.

ok thanks for that, before i had just wondered, now i definitely know that you are a simple lightweight roll.

not worth bothering with, have fun in your safe little pond camel rider

The more I talk to people like you the more I love my camel. Wink

BTW: that picture in my profile is a piece of historical art...not that you really know what art or who Etienne dinet is



Art, Beanie Babies, Bitcoins, it's all the same, just a bunch of stuff that cultists like to collect, except art and beanie babies have no use case. Collecting art is even more stupid than collecting bitcoins.


Collecting art...you think I own one of these pieces ? LOL, only in my dreams, these pictures has a historical and emotional effect on me, I would be really lucky to hang one of these in my living room.
355  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 12:16:48 PM
fun fact : i got my credit card hacked two times on the net last year and each time my bank refund me within 10 days to protect me.

More than bitcoin can ever do


only an idiot lets their credit card get hacked ... and your credit card fees include costs for all the other idiots who let their cards get hacked and the idiot companies that 'secure' all the massive credit card databases ... basically its a bog hack system that costs a lot of of money to keep patching up

secure bitcoin properly and it never gets hacked and you never pay more than you have to, or paying for others incompetence.

PS: you're credit card was basically worthless last time i looked anyway  Wink

Edit: take Bitstamp as an example when it comes to security, if they cant secure their exchange how do you expect a normal user to do so ?

Bitcoin is redefining the security measures in IT, when a single file is so important and critical, it is really dangerous for the masses at this point, we need to put more effort to make it secure, user friendly, tweaked for larger adoption and especially regulated so the scums and crooks don't find a heaven in it.

ok thanks for that, before i had just wondered, now i definitely know that you are a simple lightweight roll.

not worth bothering with, have fun in your safe little pond camel rider

The more I talk to people like you the more I love my camel. Wink

BTW: that picture in my profile is a piece of historical art...not that you really know what art or who Etienne dinet is

356  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 11:44:03 AM
fun fact : i got my credit card hacked two times on the net last year and each time my bank refund me within 10 days to protect me.

More than bitcoin can ever do


only an idiot lets their credit card get hacked ... and your credit card fees include costs for all the other idiots who let their cards get hacked and the idiot companies that 'secure' all the massive credit card databases ... basically its a bog hack system that costs a lot of of money to keep patching up

secure bitcoin properly and it never gets hacked and you never pay more than you have to, or paying for others incompetence.

PS: you're credit card was basically worthless last time i looked anyway  Wink

Don't be an ignorant, this could happen to anyone, even if you take all security measures, all it takes is the hack of a merchant you once used... Bitcoin isn't better, because at the time it is harder to secure, in fact the only way to be so secure is by using paper wallets which is not suitable for the masses when we consider their daily needs.

Edit: take Bitstamp as an example when it comes to security, if they cant secure their exchange how do you expect a normal user to do so ?

Bitcoin is redefining the security measures in IT, when a single file is so important and critical, it is really dangerous for the masses at this point, we need to put more effort to make it secure, user friendly, tweaked for larger adoption and especially regulated so the scums and crooks don't find a heaven in it.
357  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
What is this theory of shaking out speculators by price crash everyone keeps talking about?
"Sharply falling prices will ris us of all the idiots that are poisoning the btc ecosystem and then we can start healthy growth again, only when we cool pple are left"

Am I the only one to find this argument utterly s.. silly?



nope, I agree with it 100%, most of Bitcoiners jumped in because of the price going up... you know the get rich kids, when the price crash (like there will be no tomorrow) these kids will dump the whole scene, which is perfect for Bitcoin to develop and prepare for the real mass adoption, the real thing that it was meant and designed for, and without these kids we can fix so many Broken things Bitcoin have.
358  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
up 33% in under 3 hrs ... find me another investment that good.  Wink

only if you just bought at a$150, otherwise you've been losing your shit continuously for more than a year.

1 year is a totally arbitrary timeframe for an asset that has been increasing exponentially for 5 of the last 6 years, curious unit you choose?

You know what.... I give you this, but I will remind you about this talk when we hit the real bottom, only then when we shake speculators and cultists idiots, then Bitcoin can improve and prepare for mass adoption, right now Bitcoin is dangerous and highly speculative and hoarded, it is not prepared for what it was designed for by all means.... don't forget this conversation.

ooooh, am i meant to be awed by your omnipotence?!

latecomers always full of crap inevitably.


Late comers ?!!! so it is really a cult... my gosh you cultists idiots.


Edit: I am curious, what do you do in life ? like what is your profession ?
359  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 10:19:34 AM
up 33% in under 3 hrs ... find me another investment that good.  Wink

only if you just bought at a$150, otherwise you've been losing your shit continuously for more than a year.

1 year is a totally arbitrary timeframe for an asset that has been increasing exponentially for 5 of the last 6 years, curious unit you choose?

You know what.... I give you this, but I will remind you about this talk when we hit the real bottom, only then when we shake speculators and cultists idiots, then Bitcoin can improve and prepare for mass adoption, right now Bitcoin is dangerous and highly speculative and hoarded, it is not prepared for what it was designed for by all means.... don't forget this conversation.
360  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
I think that if the bitcoin cultists would have better careers, then they wouldn't be so desperate in wishing bitcoin to succeed. This desperation comes from thinking that bitcoin is their only hope to succeed in life.

yea a bunch of losers who couldn't achieve anything in life so they rely on the hope that Bitcoin will do it for them, instead of working on their skills and making their way to new milestones.... their fuel is the idiots who buy into their fantasy.
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