I'm going long on this.. I doubt it's over..
Yep, I did the same. I think BTS is going to be one of the BIG winners. This one goes beyond currency ratio valuation - holding BitShares is more akin to owning an equity with a PE ratio and dividends (that I estimate it most certainly will have someday). Now I've just got to get my BTS off the exchange and start using it . . . to make more money! |
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This coin has more problems then a meth addict . . .
That could be what ends up making it successful.  |
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Great article, attacks and all! A must read. Thanks. |
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Hey guys what happend to Digihash.co , WHY U IGNORING MY QUESTION
I was mining for 6 days with 24 TH/s and 1 day with another 210 TH/s and there is no PAYOUTS. There are other people with the same problem. GIVE US AN ANSWER
We are not ignoring anyone. We reset pool, wallets, and server. Please check again. Also as mentioned there is a minimum 100 DGB payout on the server. There is an enormous amount of new hash being thrown at the network. Mining is about 20x more difficult now than it was a month ago. 5/17/17 23:23 Подтверждено (49283 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 105.90651200 5/17/17 22:42 Подтверждено (49443 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 110.27595268 5/17/17 22:21 Подтверждено (49526 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 122.34682851 5/17/17 21:10 Подтверждено (49818 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 108.76191397 5/17/17 20:27 Подтверждено (49987 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 150.84189632 5/17/17 19:10 Подтверждено (50295 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 130.35245909 5/17/17 18:06 Подтверждено (50563 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 117.95385204 5/17/17 18:00 Подтверждено (50587 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 128.02185700 5/17/17 17:26 Подтверждено (50720 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 160.46877673 5/17/17 16:53 Подтверждено (50842 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 119.13508590 5/17/17 15:21 Подтверждено (51214 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 127.08952128 5/17/17 14:13 Подтверждено (51494 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 107.71661476 5/17/17 13:33 Подтверждено (51638 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 108.74885644 5/17/17 13:05 Подтверждено (51764 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 110.04814285 5/17/17 12:44 Подтверждено (51851 подтверждений). Получено на (нет метки) DL2QivccHD6VBxaSTK2ZrqtYLnKMx75Umg 129.70883128 It is my last 15 transactions from the DIGIHASH.CO . As you see, they just stoped on 5/17/17 23:23. If the difficulty Changed ( Suddenly ) for exmpl 3x times, So I should get my next hundred on 5/18/17 0:30 --- for example. BUT I didn't recieved ANY payment for 6 days since my last payout. Difficulty DOESN'T matter. THERE IS SOMETHING wrong with YOUR pool or with SOMEBODY from your team. Please fix it. Thank you. If you search this thread, you will see that DigiHash payout issues have been a reoccurring theme over the last year or so, hashrate independent. |
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They should be focusing on developing their customer service, communication and PR skills not the god damn facebook page.
They should have focused on manufacturing just a few more units! This has all the hallmarks of a bankrupt outfit that's so indebted and/or poorly run that they can't even get new investment capital (in spite of have a first class product - but the window on that is probably running out fast as well) that is resorting to scamming to keep paying for the toys. I wouldn't have anything to do with anyone Baikal related at this point - not even a third party selling on Ebay - just write it off as an impossibility at this point. |
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While a fair argument is presented, the op makes an argument as if the people will just make rational choices when it comes tot heir money and anyone that has seen a person buying something out of impulse knows that is simply not true, there are always going to be pumps and dumps.
I think the assumption is that the more price increases, the less feasible it is to manipulate price, and as more and more fiat comes into crypto causing the subsequent revaluations of the best issues, manipulation will be much less likely in those issues reaching "fair value". The crux of this thread deals with whether there is currently appreciable fiat coming into crypto, just how big it is, and its sustainability. If those questions are answered in positive, then the question then revolves around the resulting effects: whether it brings stable prices and the end of P&D for those "blue chips", or not. We all know it will happen, the question is when, and I postulate that it is happening now with the best of the best. Second tier and third tier issues will have to wait (and, as I've said in this thread before, they will still be susceptible to P&D while they wait their turn . . . those that will survive, that is). By no means do I suggest that human nature is going to change! Not even with the manipulators whose greed will probably get more than a couple turned on their heads trying to "pump" the impossible, or just selling way too soon and then chasing at minor tops, etc. Human nature change? Not in the least! And not with the manipulators either! In fact, I expect to hear stories about whale accounts blowing up! To be sure, we will still see panic buys and panic sells - just look at Apple's long term chart for an example - but it won't be due to coordinated manipulation since it will simply be too costly to do so. Those are the questions being addressed in this thread, and the better we can answer them, the more appropriately we will be able to position ourselves. For example, what would be the best strategy now for the average crypto enthusiast to employ with the very best issues? Sell and wait for a 70-80% pullback, or simply buy and hold? When was the last time we saw a 70% + pullback in BTC? Does anyone think that will ever happen again? (BTW, that wasn't market manipulation either - it was simple mass psychology taking fear to an extreme - human nature - but not manipulation, which is a very different thing). |
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Monero needs and will miss the Whiny Ragequit people as much as Bitcoin needed and misses Mike Hearn and Gavin (IE, Not. At. All.).
Burning out the diseased morass of deadwood and detritus make the Monero forest flourish, just as Bitcoin has done under Core's unyielding, principled leadership.
Are you such a troll that you don't comprehend the damage this causes to the brand? A forest fire may kill some bunnies, squirrels, and possibly Bambi but is required for the health of the ecosystem. Fluffy actions amount to a planned controlled burn. That's good, proactive forest management and responsible stewardship. There is no damage to the brand, only increased awareness and respect; are you such a shitcoin pump gambling addict that you don't comprehend that? Fluffy's practical joke damaged the over-hyped brands with value based on trust in Professional ® Enterprise ® Leaders ®, making Monero shine in comparison. It was a wise decision based on what's best in the long term, not done for the sake of gratifying those with high time preferences. I disagree with you on this one. Such frivolity communicates a complete lack of professionalism and absolute disrespect for everyone concerned, fluffy himself included. |
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As promised, the answers for what eventually happened to the “parabolic” teasers I posted yesterday and who they are. Putting things into context is always extremely useful. Nonetheless, in spite of the evidence and comparisons I’ve presented, the main question of this thread as to “where we are in crypto in terms of longer term context” still remains largely unanswered. I’d love to hear your opinions, both pro and con. Are you more convinced than ever?  https://i.imgur.com/qe1R2RC.jpgIf you’re interested in taking a closer look at these examples on you own, or any other you may prefer (an interesting side note is that many a top gainer going into 2000 no longer exists so you won’t be able to find them here . . . anyone got any ideas about your favorite crypto Studebakers? ). Here’s the link: https://www.investing.com/charts/real-time-stocks-charts |
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Total market cap is still less than 10 percent of Apple’s market cap. That’s just Apple, and just to name a very famous case that is often cited when making relative comparisons of public companies. Now, put Apple into the relative context of a 13 trillion dollar M2 money stock just in the US (more than 50 trillion developed economies combined money stock), and it’s just a drop in the ocean. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supplyThis image is perfect to show the current state of things (well, this image is now outdated, but it still shows that bitcoin is tiny compared to the sea of actual potential money that could jump in) http://image.ibb.co/g8OMYF/money.jpgCurrent Marketcap for Bitcoin is a bit under 40 billion, so it shows how Bill Gates net worth is bigger than the entire Bitcoin Marketcap which is nuts. The potential for growth on Bitcoin is still huge. Im not sure about altcoins, but im sure they will go way higher too because everyone wants to get on "the next bitcoin" and people will not only buy bitcoin, but other cryptos as well, but I dont see bitcoin stopping from being #1. The banks are pumping ETH a lot tho. And with altcoins included, the total market cap is right around 80 billion right now, equaling Bill Gates. As you say, just nuts. Especially when you put Bitcoin's "square" next to what it's really competing to be a small part of, i.e. Broad Money. There's room for growth! If we accept the assumption that mass adoption is all but certain for BTC, then I think we can do the same for a limited number (let's say the "Dow 30" of crypto  ) of alts, and I think quite justifiably since there will be many niches to fill. All the top coins have demonstrated that they think "blockchain" success means niche specialization by their own targeting of niches. In short, I believe it's a niche game, and one of the keys for the investor is identifying who's going to be #1 in each niche. Bitcoin's got the store of wealth niche, but other's might make a claim on that territory as well, thereby illustrating crossover strategies at work with some even going so far as to shoot for one-stop servicing, but I'm not sure as to with how much success (perhaps more likely a few more years from now). Bitcoin is to the Bank, what Litecoin is to the Savings and Loan types of analogies are often heard these days. Those are two slightly different but very similar slices of the market. Beyond that you've got for profit concepts from secure contracts to online currency exchanges, even social networks, all based on blockchain technology that "shareholders", as they're sometimes called, actually own, and that's extremely liquid. When you think about it, it's a marvelous example of private incentivized innovation. |
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So you will be showing random pictures of bubble-aftermaths?
It would be more interesting to know the future (bubble tops).
You'll have to read what's come before in this thread, first to get situated, and then for the answer to your question, which you'll discover was a little out of touch with the subject being discussed - bubble tops are the antithesis of what is being proposed here. |
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Been studying recent individual cryptocurrency trading behaviors and patterns, and I'm seeing clear telltale signs of emotional participants in some markets, and more technical trading in others, giving us a clue as to where the professionals are most likely operating, and, by implication, where the big newly arriving fiat is being targeted.
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1995. Yeah ok. 1995 has a slow pace of moving accelarating as now is in bitcoin only in 1997-1998. We're currently as one guy said on bitcoin conference at level late 1997-1998. It all started in late 2015 - then we can said that it was 1995. Now we're 1.5yr later. It became dangerous little to pour. Scheme can still go, and probably will go for some time, before crashing, but it's as always - if it was real demand apart from speculators - it wouldn't be so steep.
Some hodlers with 10,000 btc could crash price any time - so say - if it's sustaible, to have such accelaration if one guy can accelarate or crash all the party. It's really sad, because liquidity is still none. Liquidity comes with speculators, but at the exchanges there won't be so liquid as forex market, it should OTC, to make it really liquid, with one integrated market. Then even orders like 10.000 btc, would make a such a difference.
Yeah, 1995, looks like you caught it before I edited it out - didn't want to confuse and wanted to save it for later - but, yeah, I personally think we're more in a 1995 situation (early 90's anyway) than a 1999 parallel. Will leave it at that for now. Nevertheless, in 1995 there weren't liquidity problems of the sort you mention BTC had a couple of years ago. Your description is of something embryonic and not at all similar to an early 90's stock market comparison, but rather more like the NASDAQ when it was still OTC. |
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Interesting watch . . . more or less both sides of the coin in a nutshell . . . but converging in mutual agreement long term.  "I'm in the camp that $80 billion will still look like a small blip when we look back." Albert Wenger https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/867043701616517124 |
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Idiot seller at 0.01273000 (size offer).
Looks like selling there was smart move. Last Price
0.01140075
I'm hodling muh chikuns all the way to zero, like an idiot. I'm betting they sold into a hole, and we'll never see those prices again. Look at what ETH is doing with all their potential vulnerabilities, etc.! When people finally figure out that only LTC offers proven secure storage of value at this level, it'll do the same, if not much better. It's like comparing apples and oranges though, so it's not as though ETH doesn't have it's rightful place in the world, but from a secure storage of value standpoint, as well as fast and convienent medium of exchange, there's no rival for Litecoin - IMHO. Current chart  https://i.imgur.com/xwU7Jfa.jpg |
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I recently mentioned Syscoin as one of my favorite most undervalued cryptocurrencies in a thread I started on the topic of true BTC ratio valuations and how we might get there.
Anyone who would like to “drop in” and share your reasons for holding Syscoin, you have my warmest invitation to join in. What are your 5 top reasons for holding Syscoin? What is special about Syscoin?
Being undervalued in BTC ratio terms is only part of the story. Come over and tell us about the rest!
1. Blockchain market (inc. escrow, aliases etc). 2. Epic dev team (they even fought through the Mintpal fiasco while managing to develop the most useful coin out there 3. Haven't had any technical glitches, bugs or problems ever 4. Lightning network http://syscoin.org/syscoin-core-segwit-lightning/5. Positive, healthy and steady growth, no hype or crazy pumping. Patience is a virtue, Thank you for that Starving_Marvin. Below you've got a chart of gratitude with some basic TA commentary for SYS.  https://i.imgur.com/OnD07xb.jpg |
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Interesting ideas especially the concept of whales still being able to manipulate BTC, and that LTC somehow has a real silver-gold relationship. Do you really think so? Japan isn't so involved yet, but the news of it becoming so is. No, there's lots to be considered, and lots to be debated, but always with the thinking cap on, and since I don't have time ATM to give things a better read, I'll leave off by promising I'll do my best to chip in when I can. And the reason for this post:  https://i.imgur.com/uNuYj0f.pngThanks for contributing. |
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