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381  Economy / Auctions / Re: Auctioning 600 GH Preorder BFL The Monarch on: September 10, 2013, 08:19:01 PM
Is this a first-day order?  I don't remember when they started taking preorders.
382  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: September 10, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
I thought all pool were working on the same block at the same time. If this is wrong please tell me. I don't understand why we are not making more. I see on block chain the other pools are raking it in.
It's like complaining that someone else keeps winning on the slots and you keep losing... it's just luck.
383  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] BFL/Avalon Units with Delayed (1-3 months) Shipping on: September 10, 2013, 04:18:31 AM
Valid points.  I'd like to point out the original price of the bfl single was 1300 which is likely a price they will return to shortly.  This was mainly geared towards avalons and their clones as their electricity consumption is horrid.  Also with in hand units fetching ~20s btc I'd think there would be interest to lock in 1/3 or perhaps a bit more of value as protection in case of mass knc and bitfury deliveries.  I don't think diff will level out anytime soon.  We haven't seen any volume of 28nm devices yet.  Also you can lock up a price and if you don't want to ship in 30-60 days then it won't cost much to simply not ship.  It's just like a stock option.
In-hand units are going for 20 BTC is all?  See, I think that price is low as well.  Guess I am a bit of an optimist as to how much they'll earn in the coming months.  Smiley
384  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] BFL/Avalon Units with Delayed (1-3 months) Shipping on: September 09, 2013, 10:24:08 PM
Wonder why so little interest in this.  You can lock up a guaranteed sales price for devices that are quickly becoming not worth the electricity costs they consume.
I'd be very interested if the prices were higher.  6 BTC is not enough.

As it is, I expect difficulty increases to start leveling out, apparently a lot sooner than you do.  Wink
385  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter.com * Optional Custom Miner, PPLNS, Merged mining, Newbie-Friendly! * on: September 09, 2013, 09:02:21 PM
I have got a hundred of vps with xeon cpu that can mine with a speed of 1mh/s,.is it profitable?
You'll make a whopping 0.02 BTC/month for your trouble.
386  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I ordered a Butterfly Rig. I wish I joined this forum a few day ago. on: September 09, 2013, 07:01:16 PM
BFL sells cheap hardware and ships late.
Avalon sells expensive hardware and ships late.
ASICMiner sells expensive hardware and ships on time.
No other companies have actually delivered anything (that I am aware of), so I would definitely not pre-order from them.

So, you have a choice between cheap and a long wait, or expensive and a short wait.  Neither option looks particularly good IMO.
387  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: September 06, 2013, 11:18:49 PM
Still selling off the remainder of my gpu farm.  anyone need a hd7970 or a hd7790 usa based
If you're selling below market value, I'll bite.
388  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL custom made PSUs burnt in europe on: September 06, 2013, 11:17:52 PM
This is the advised help from bfl:

looks safe!
Two things I want to note here:
1) This was NOT advised help from BFL.  This was advice given by a forum member, not a BFL employee.
2) It is perfectly safe to use a paperclip to jump a PSU in this manner.  You can touch the paperclip while the PSU is running to no ill-effect.  I have two such examples running in my house to power my singles.
389  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bryan Micon's Butterfly Labs Scammer Investigation including Josh Zerlan on: September 06, 2013, 03:08:13 PM
Why is the FTC or KS AG office not going after BFL? BFL and its key people either have great contacts or have been extremely lucky.
Because there's no actual case against BFL.
390  Other / Off-topic / Re: USPS package laborday and sunday?? on: September 04, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
Yes.
391  Economy / Digital goods / [WTB] Windows 7 or 8 license + ISO on: September 04, 2013, 05:55:24 AM
I'd like to buy a Windows 7 or 8 unused product key, 64-bit, with the disc ISO (link to where I can download the ISO that will work with the code you give me).  Edition doesn't really matter so long as it's Home Premium or better.  Willing to consider all reasonable offers, but I do want to know your source for the product key, and will consider the price accordingly.
392  Economy / Digital goods / Re: **FREE** Microsoft Office 2007 Retail Licenses **FREE** UPDATED!! on: September 04, 2013, 05:47:23 AM
I'd like one, if you still have them...!
393  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: How many GHs do you need to break even if you got a miner now? on: September 03, 2013, 10:34:14 PM
If I got a miner, delivered right now, how many GH's would I need to possibly break even, accounting for the ever-increasing difficulty?
0.0000001 GH/s.

You'd immediately start making a profit if you're getting free mining hashpower and have zero electric costs.
394  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Martingale alike systems that you had success with. on: September 03, 2013, 09:35:04 PM
I usually bet and win, then I bet again.  I always stop one bet before a loss will occur though.  Works every time.
395  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [19 TH/s] BitMinter.com [ASIC support: var diff, Stratum, GBT, rollntime] on: August 29, 2013, 11:48:06 PM
I guess I got the late in the game.
Just can't pile Bitcoins with my 5850, and doesn't have money to pay for expensive hardware.
How did you guys manage to pay for all this, that's beyond my comprehension... don't you have a life with bills ?!?!

I took a risk back in early 2011 and bought $1,100 of computer hardware to mine with.  I've been selling BTC and keeping some to continue upgrading mining equipment ever since.

In retrospect, I would have made a lot more money just buying $1,100 of BTC (since BTC was $1.50/ea when I found out about them), but hindsight is 20/20 and all of that.  I've still made a boatload on my initial investment, so I have no regrets.
396  Other / Off-topic / Re: ACTUAL Butterfly Labs PCB pics! on: August 29, 2013, 08:35:25 AM
When is the Jalapeno getting FCC approval?

Maybe two weeks? We are waiting for the test lab to issue the test report.

With the bump in power requirements on the MR and the new screen, we had to make changes, although the new screen is already certified.  We are doing all the devices at once, since they all share the same board.

Soon, we will get to the bottom of this. I just sent out 5 emails to the FCC. Tomorrow, I make a call. I tried earlier but they were already closed. Make no mistake, I will not make the same mistake tomorrow.

Josh/BFL, you want to play hardball? Let's Play!

GAME ON!
I don't see why you really care so much about BFL's FCC status.
397  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, NEW: BFL ASIC and Block Erupter USB supported) on: August 29, 2013, 12:24:57 AM
its really strange every ~1-2 hours BFL LS is stopping and
Code:
2013.08.27 [15:02]  Work rejected. Server says: Stale or alien proof of work 
2013.08.27 [15:27]  Work rejected. Server says: Stale proof of work
2013.08.27 [15:30]  Work rejected. Server says: Stale or alien proof of work
2013.08.27 [15:30]  Work rejected. Server says: Stale proof of work
2013.08.27 [15:36]  BitFORCE (ttyUSB7) ERROR: Disconnected while working
2013.08.27 [15:36]  Cannot write to ttyUSB7: device disconnected (output stream gone)
2013.08.27 [15:36]  Cannot write to ttyUSB7: device disconnected (output stream gone)
2013.08.27 [15:36]  Probe of port ttyUSB7 failed: timeout
it stops and is only recovered if I manually probe all ports for external devices
(after a few minutes)
Code:
2013.08.27 [15:40] Device detected on ttyUSB7: BitFORCE SC 1.0
or I restart (stop and make a new instance) BitMinter client Huh
BE and Jalapeno are working further
is there any way to automatically stop and restart BitMinter client every ~1-2 hours?
TIA
A friend of mine is getting the same error about 3 times a day with the latest mining client.  He only runs two SC Singles.
398  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL SC Pre-Order Information on: August 25, 2013, 02:33:16 AM
Why do i get the feeling its just one person posting here.
This whole forum is just one person posting, didn't you know that?
399  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BitMinter client (Win/Linux/Mac, NEW: BFL ASIC and Block Erupter USB supported) on: August 24, 2013, 02:50:28 AM
I've not touched the beta client since first running it, and it's been rock solid thus far.
400  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: August 23, 2013, 07:51:30 AM
"I just received my BFL order from several months ago, therefore they are not a scam".

I think that's called subjective thinking.

BFL sold the expectation of a certain percentage of the network hash rate, and took customers' money in exchange.

They have delivered, to each of a small fraction of those customers, a small fraction of the promised percentage of the network hashrate.

"A year ago I paid BFL $150 to provide me, after a two-month waiting period, with 0.03% of the network hashrate.  Twelve months later they shipped me 0.001% of the network hashrate.

The value of what I can hash today has increased 1200% in that year, but that still leaves me with 40% of what I paid for.  But I'm happy, and they are not a scam."

I guess.  They get 100% of your money.  You get 40% of what you paid for.  They are not a scam.  Neither is the seller of a 12mpg auto that advertised 30mpg, nor the streamer of an online movie that stops 40% in.

If you're happy with 12 mpg or with 40% of a movie, then you weren't scammed. 

Show me an ASIC vendor who sells a stated percentage of network hashrate to a customer, then delivers that percentage or promplty refunds the price difference, and I will show you a non-scamming ASIC vendor.
No, they sold you a car that gets 30 mpg (just like they advertised), but gas prices have dropped to $0.50/gallon, so you're mad that you won't be saving as much money.

Seriously, your analogy is very flawed.  BFL made no promises about the network hash rate, or about what percentage of the overall network hashrate you would own.  They only promised to deliver a particular hashrate, and that is exactly what they have been delivering.  I didn't order 0.03% of the network - I ordered 60 GH/s.  Any risk as to what difficulty or price might be in the future is a risk on the buyer's part.

Yes, they broke their many promises of delivery dates, but if people were unhappy about that, they were welcome to get a refund at any time up until BFL actually started shipping en masse.  Now I don't agree with the decision they've made to make sales "final" (and I even question the legality of it), but that doesn't change the fact that people had a good long time to make an informed decision as to whether they should risk ordering from BFL or not.
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