Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
You will take our units offline, what guarantee will there be that you will ship anything back? Is this some kind of reverse scam where you will be stealing our broken miners from us? We want an escrow service to guarantee that we get something back! If you don't want to RMA your miner, or if you'd like to wait for someone else on this forum to RMA their miner and confirm receipt, its your call. Stop being provocative. But I will say your getting a different miner (again using A1's), equal to 1.2THs or higher, with the same power consumption or less. That's damn vague here. A different miner using A1's??! What do you mean? A technobit solution? A dragon system? A coincraft system? Maybe all three, maybe one of them, maybe a new AMT board.  We've said that we've explored all of the above options, stating what you'll be receiving at this time is subjective to availability and how production continues over the next weeks. |
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Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
You will take our units offline, what guarantee will there be that you will ship anything back? Is this some kind of reverse scam where you will be stealing our broken miners from us? We want an escrow service to guarantee that we get something back! If you don't want to RMA your miner, or if you'd like to wait for someone else on this forum to RMA their miner and confirm receipt, its your call. Stop being provocative. But I will say your getting a different miner (again using A1's), equal to 1.2THs or higher, with the same power consumption or less. Can I send my unit to a trusted escrow instead? Alternatively, can you send me the new miner instead and I will ship you my miner? Why don't you just wait until someone else has received their new miner, ok. We'll send you the label in a bit but it our advise that you personally carlos wait until someone else from this thread has received and reviewed their miner. |
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Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
You will take our units offline, what guarantee will there be that you will ship anything back? Is this some kind of reverse scam where you will be stealing our broken miners from us? We want an escrow service to guarantee that we get something back! If you don't want to RMA your miner, or if you'd like to wait for someone else on this forum to RMA their miner and confirm receipt, its your call. Stop being provocative. No, I want to guarantee that you will send something back. What guarantee do I have that you will send something back? Can I send the unit to one of the trusted members of this forum and then you can send me the new unit? What is the nature of the miner that you sill send back? Will you be sending back a technobit solution that is in a case? No, because that is just a dumb idea. We keep writing on this forum because we know customers like yourself will just flip and start writing the worst crap, so in general it is a necessity to maintain some presence here. We are working on a better solution for that as well. |
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Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
You will take our units offline, what guarantee will there be that you will ship anything back? Is this some kind of reverse scam where you will be stealing our broken miners from us? We want an escrow service to guarantee that we get something back! If you don't want to RMA your miner, or if you'd like to wait for someone else on this forum to RMA their miner and confirm receipt, its your call. Stop being provocative. But I will say your getting a different miner (again using A1's), equal to 1.2THs or higher, with the same power consumption or less. |
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Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
You will take our units offline, what guarantee will there be that you will ship anything back? Is this some kind of reverse scam where you will be stealing our broken miners from us? We want an escrow service to guarantee that we get something back! If you don't want to RMA your miner, or if you'd like to wait for someone else on this forum to RMA their miner and confirm receipt, its your call. Stop being provocative. |
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Also, we've just updated the RMA policy to the following:
** Update:
All clients will need to ship their miners back, even those which have picked up their miners machines from our office. Drop offs will not be accepted.
( in general, during a recall its best to have a record of a product returned and new product issued which is administered from a third party like fedex. )
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BTW, are you RMA entire miners or does it include broken boards? Many folks have like several broken boards but a few functional ones. Can they send back just the broken boards? Good question. You'll need to RMA the entire miner due to the lifespan we've seen with the boards produced. From a cost standpoint its more efficient due to the possibility of boards breaking in the future to RMA the full machine. Overall, its best to deliver a safer and more reliable miner at this point. In the future new coins will arise that will be mine-able, and having a sustainable machine will prove to profitable. |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Are you certain about that? Does AMT have bitcoin miner assets that they are not revealing? A total of 60 miners were delivered by IMET to AMT. Here is a an incomplete list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0Which counts to 48 1.2 TH/s miners in the order list. 4 520 GH/s ... equivalent to 2-3 miners. 1 miner donated to Phin. 8 miners not accounted for in the list. Out of the 48 + 4 miners, how many were shipped and working? Where did you come up with that number, just wondering. Maybe you should devulge the actual numbers? It is beginning to look like you may have kept the working miners for yourselves and shipped all the broken ones to customers. You could only afford 60 miners total (strike that, you couldn't.... you sent IMET a bad check). Anyway, 300 boards were delivered to AMT (you said it yourself). So clearly there are miners in the original list that are not accounted for or alternatively you kept those working miners for yourself. Where are you getting these numbers from Carlos, your just pulling them out of your ass. And it clearly looks like your trying to make it look like that. You were delivered 300 boards by IMET (that's what you claim), so you have around 60 miners to be delivered. You did not deliver half of those miners, as indicated by the order list. Anyway, the question is, do you or do you not have miners that are mining on your behalf? Are you mining bitcoin using customers mining rigs? What are you talking about dude, you've lost it. We have not mentioned numbers. Where are you getting your numbers from? Well you did not give exact numbers but you did reveal approximate numbers. 300 boards right? IMET is obviously on the forum, why don't you ask them. You already told me, 1/3rd of 900 boards were delivered before you ran off with a bounced check. Now how can you tell me how many miners you shipped to customers? Based on this list, you only delivered 11 miners. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580180You have not delivered around 49 miners. 43 miners are on the list of not having been delivered to customers. That leaves 6 miners unaccounted for in the list. Yet... we are still speaking about 49 miners here that you have sitting in your premised. You mean to tell me they are all not working? No one told you that. |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Are you certain about that? Does AMT have bitcoin miner assets that they are not revealing? A total of 60 miners were delivered by IMET to AMT. Here is a an incomplete list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0Which counts to 48 1.2 TH/s miners in the order list. 4 520 GH/s ... equivalent to 2-3 miners. 1 miner donated to Phin. 8 miners not accounted for in the list. Out of the 48 + 4 miners, how many were shipped and working? Where did you come up with that number, just wondering. Maybe you should devulge the actual numbers? It is beginning to look like you may have kept the working miners for yourselves and shipped all the broken ones to customers. You could only afford 60 miners total (strike that, you couldn't.... you sent IMET a bad check). Anyway, 300 boards were delivered to AMT (you said it yourself). So clearly there are miners in the original list that are not accounted for or alternatively you kept those working miners for yourself. Where are you getting these numbers from Carlos, your just pulling them out of your ass. And it clearly looks like your trying to make it look like that. You were delivered 300 boards by IMET (that's what you claim), so you have around 60 miners to be delivered. You did not deliver half of those miners, as indicated by the order list. Anyway, the question is, do you or do you not have miners that are mining on your behalf? Are you mining bitcoin using customers mining rigs? What are you talking about dude, you've lost it. We have not mentioned numbers. Where are you getting your numbers from? Well you did not give exact numbers but you did reveal approximate numbers. 300 boards right? IMET is obviously on the forum, why don't you ask them. |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Neither does AMT is correct. Thank you clenell. just pointing out the obvious. It is obvious. obvious you can't make a working miner? Craig, as much as you would love us to get on your case, and get us all riled up, we wont. And it is solely because of you that we have been delayed, had to spend money on lawyers, had to not focus on the business which caused the business to suffer. And when this all said and done, people will use your name as an adjective to describe the worst clients of the industry. They'll say stuff like "this guy wont shut up, we probably have another lenell on our hands". Once our biggest fan, friend and colleague has turned against us. reap what you sow zipkin. plow time is coming. i promise. Plow time? So you want to plow us now? Careful now, that can be misconstrued as sexual harassment buddy. God knows we have the voicemails left on Josh's phone from your number threatening his family. "where's my money josh, i'm gonna come get you, i'm gonna come into your home and find you where you sleep, i'm gonna get you!". |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Neither does AMT is correct. Thank you clenell. just pointing out the obvious. It is obvious. obvious you can't make a working miner? Craig, as much as you would love us to get on your case, and get us all riled up, we wont. And it is solely because of you that we have been delayed, had to spend money on lawyers, had to not focus on the business which caused the business to suffer. And when this all said and done, people will use your name as an adjective to describe the worst clients of the industry. They'll say stuff like "this guy wont shut up, we probably have another lenell on our hands". Once our biggest fan, friend and colleague has turned against us. reap what you sow zipkin. You are one of the main reasons we are all in this mess. Go back to your corner and stop annoying the hell out of your counsel. |
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Even though you have 9/10, my point is some of the board still work. I have 2 that works out of 5. While it may be 10%-40% of the boards that work, some still may work is my point. The only reason the 3 other cards don't work is because they were smashed in shipping. My point is some of the cards are still able to mine.
Some of them yes, about 10-20% of the production passed all test and were shipped to clients. The rest went to the bone yard. |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Are you certain about that? Does AMT have bitcoin miner assets that they are not revealing? A total of 60 miners were delivered by IMET to AMT. Here is a an incomplete list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0Which counts to 48 1.2 TH/s miners in the order list. 4 520 GH/s ... equivalent to 2-3 miners. 1 miner donated to Phin. 8 miners not accounted for in the list. Out of the 48 + 4 miners, how many were shipped and working? Where did you come up with that number, just wondering. Maybe you should devulge the actual numbers? It is beginning to look like you may have kept the working miners for yourselves and shipped all the broken ones to customers. You could only afford 60 miners total (strike that, you couldn't.... you sent IMET a bad check). Anyway, 300 boards were delivered to AMT (you said it yourself). So clearly there are miners in the original list that are not accounted for or alternatively you kept those working miners for yourself. Where are you getting these numbers from Carlos, your just pulling them out of your ass. And it clearly looks like your trying to make it look like that. You were delivered 300 boards by IMET (that's what you claim), so you have around 60 miners to be delivered. You did not deliver half of those miners, as indicated by the order list. Anyway, the question is, do you or do you not have miners that are mining on your behalf? Are you mining bitcoin using customers mining rigs? What are you talking about dude, you've lost it. We have not mentioned numbers. Where are you getting your numbers from? |
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Lol
I love how catty this is getting.
I bet it's been killing clennell not posting on here. I want to know what his lawyers have to say, well and AMT's.
I'm just wondering how quickly a settlement will be reached, filing was just over two months ago, coming up here on a deadline for a response.
My guess, and it would only be that, is they used the delay to figure out the imet thing to present it to the courts, and licensed the tecnobit design as it a proven one. They show the court they have a miner performing to spec, or you know a viable product. That should clear the fraud charges but doesn't take care of the neglect and several other charges. The fraud charge would be the one I'd be looking most to beat as I think that could carry more damages if it were to go to trial. Then they would be in a better bargaining position in a settlement negotiation.
Timeline: Feb 02 - IMET starts producing miners for AMT - https://advancedminers.com/amt-starts-production-1-2th-miners/ (note: censored in their main website) Mar 16 - Bitmine reveals new 12 chip board design. Suspends shipment/ordering of all designs of more that 800 GH/s Mar ?? - AMT starts advertising 2.4 TH/s delivery by April 1st Apr 7 - AMT starts shipping kits without powersupplies Apr 18 - AMT sends IMET bad check after IMET delivers 300 boards. Apr 28 - Delaware County consumer affairs recommends contacting District Attorney Apr 30 - Class Action Lawsuit filled May 1 - AMT reveals Technobit based board May 7 - Bitmine reveals 2.4 Th/s system ( 1 month later than when AMT claims to have 2.4 TH/s miners shipping) May 8 - Technobit confirms license deal with AMT Yea that's not accurate, go back and look at some of those dates again. But some are close yes. For the sake of transparency, can you provide a timeline. Lets just go with your close. We're not to concerned with the past as the past has already happened, we need to focus on the future because the future hasn't happened yet. Or has it? |
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Its a shitty hand we all got dealt, not just you. You feel that you have lost 6k, we feel that we have lost about 600k, maybe more than that.
So why haven't you filed a lawsuit? Against? IMET, since they ripped you off and stole your parts. Lawsuits are expensive. |
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Sirminesalot - Does not mine a lot.
sad thing is... neither does AMT. Are you certain about that? Does AMT have bitcoin miner assets that they are not revealing? A total of 60 miners were delivered by IMET to AMT. Here is a an incomplete list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=463922.0Which counts to 48 1.2 TH/s miners in the order list. 4 520 GH/s ... equivalent to 2-3 miners. 1 miner donated to Phin. 8 miners not accounted for in the list. Out of the 48 + 4 miners, how many were shipped and working? Where did you come up with that number, just wondering. Maybe you should devulge the actual numbers? It is beginning to look like you may have kept the working miners for yourselves and shipped all the broken ones to customers. You could only afford 60 miners total (strike that, you couldn't.... you sent IMET a bad check). Anyway, 300 boards were delivered to AMT (you said it yourself). So clearly there are miners in the original list that are not accounted for or alternatively you kept those working miners for yourself. Where are you getting these numbers from Carlos, your just pulling them out of your ass. And it clearly looks like your trying to make it look like that. |
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Its a shitty hand we all got dealt, not just you. You feel that you have lost 6k, we feel that we have lost about 600k, maybe more than that.
So why haven't you filed a lawsuit? Against? |
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Lol
I love how catty this is getting.
I bet it's been killing clennell not posting on here. I want to know what his lawyers have to say, well and AMT's.
I'm just wondering how quickly a settlement will be reached, filing was just over two months ago, coming up here on a deadline for a response.
My guess, and it would only be that, is they used the delay to figure out the imet thing to present it to the courts, and licensed the tecnobit design as it a proven one. They show the court they have a miner performing to spec, or you know a viable product. That should clear the fraud charges but doesn't take care of the neglect and several other charges. The fraud charge would be the one I'd be looking most to beat as I think that could carry more damages if it were to go to trial. Then they would be in a better bargaining position in a settlement negotiation.
Timeline: Feb 02 - IMET starts producing miners for AMT - https://advancedminers.com/amt-starts-production-1-2th-miners/ (note: censored in their main website) Mar 16 - Bitmine reveals new 12 chip board design. Suspends shipment/ordering of all designs of more that 800 GH/s Mar ?? - AMT starts advertising 2.4 TH/s delivery by April 1st Apr 7 - AMT starts shipping kits without powersupplies Apr 18 - AMT sends IMET bad check after IMET delivers 300 boards. Apr 28 - Delaware County consumer affairs recommends contacting District Attorney Apr 30 - Class Action Lawsuit filled May 1 - AMT reveals Technobit based board May 7 - Bitmine reveals 2.4 Th/s system ( 1 month later than when AMT claims to have 2.4 TH/s miners shipping) May 8 - Technobit confirms license deal with AMT Yea that's not accurate, go back and look at some of those dates again. But some are close yes. |
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Lol
I love how catty this is getting.
I bet it's been killing clennell not posting on here. I want to know what his lawyers have to say, well and AMT's.
I'm just wondering how quickly a settlement will be reached, filing was just over two months ago, coming up here on a deadline for a response.
My guess, and it would only be that, is they used the delay to figure out the imet thing to present it to the courts, and licensed the tecnobit design as it a proven one. They show the court they have a miner performing to spec, or you know a viable product. That should clear the fraud charges but doesn't take care of the neglect and several other charges. The fraud charge would be the one I'd be looking most to beat as I think that could carry more damages if it were to go to trial. Then they would be in a better bargaining position in a settlement negotiation.
This guy..... he's creative. I'm sure Josh will be pissed abut the "cattyness" but that's true, it must be killing him. |
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