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381  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Mining Heat recovery and scalability on: March 03, 2024, 10:08:55 AM
As you can see, I have a pretty clear idea of what I want to build.

Honestly, I don't think you do!

First you plan is releasing a coin and mining it, then maybe make it merger mine, the main problem with it is why would the coin be of any value in the first place, there were hundred of litecoin scrypt minable coins, the majority ended dead, so why do you think you're brining anything special?
You first have to come with a plan that set this coin aside, then think of throwing enough miners at it so that you have enough to heat building after building.

I am still faced with a wall called experience and money. However, despite all of that, I believe I'm in a unique position which will allow me to surpass all of them. I have made multiple plans and built multiple systems to help me thrive in this space.

Plans without money are just plans!
If you think you can take on the giants in mining that throw tens of millions at gear, have already deals with prices per kwh that make most of the people go into shocked Pikachu face mode you're going to be in for a really unpleasant surprise.

My advice:
- make it clear what you want to do, launch your own coin mine that or mine bitcoin
- run your budget, see how much it will cost you to acquire the miners, see the cost needed to run, run the costs of heating for that region and then check how viable the plan is. We're having the same discussion fresh here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5486957.0;topicseen

One company I am aware of is Heatmine, there would be others, do our research on them.

Heatmine closed down in 2019, never delivered one product.
 

382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool Observer Topic on: March 03, 2024, 09:40:25 AM
So... What kind of game is MARA Pool playing

And as they did it again twice in the last days, obviously the answer is the money game
Behold::::::

https://ordiscan.com/inscription/63026232


But the funny thing is that's a resized image since:  Roll Eyes


I wonder why some can't stick to simple art that can be understood by anyone, much like:
https://ordiscan.com/inscription/63126854

Luckily enough outside consolidation and "art" there is not that much activity, fees are still around 12-15 sat/b

383  Other / Meta / Re: Is the forum running slow? on: March 03, 2024, 09:18:05 AM
The current security mechanism has continuously been breached.  

Hmm, if you say so, but: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

The server is shut down very often but gladly it's only for some minutes. I hope everything is okay with the forum, it will be good if theymos or forum moderators explain why this happens so often (probably once a week).

He already mentioned it, but there is no solution to whatever causes it as he doesn't even know what's the reason

It was the same weird thing which caused a few hours of downtime 6-12 months ago, and I think it's what causes the few minutes of downtime people observe every few weeks. I've never been able to figure out what causes it. It looks like the network gets cut between the web server and the database for a while. It seems to always happen at around the same time, so I suppose it's probably some automated maintenance process messing something up, but I don't have anything running at this time, so I wonder if it's something in the web-host's networking infrastructure, or something like that. It's difficult to diagnose, since it happens rarely, and usually when I'm sleeping.

Anyhow, a few hours of downtime might be good once in a while, would make some understand to not take eveything for granted.


384  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: March 03, 2024, 09:07:09 AM
I think these large players are playing the "game of chicken" (Google that term if you are not familiar with it or check the image below if you are lazy)

The only difference in the image is that they both drive nearly the same car, in reality it would look in some instances like a 40t truck plowing through skateboarders. And adding more details, one has his private ambulance ready nearby (investors with deep enough pockets and with a mind that reads let's throw now another 5 million, we might not get back the 10 millions spent before but there is a chance we might turn this 5 into 6).
As for intimidation, Riot has played its cards, they have stated they have the money and the deals to bring 100Exa online by 2025, I wonder how that would have played with Bitcoins still in the 30k range and no relief in sight, probably a lot would have indeed blinked.

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Latest Block:   832949  (6 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   101.2542%  (342 / 337.76 expected, 4.24 ahead)

Turned positive two days into it, based on the last week pace we could realistically see a 1 or maybe 2% , but right now it takes only one lazy block and it could go negative again. Nothing extraordinary to see I guess, I'm waiting for the fireworks in two months.

385  Economy / Economics / Re: The increase of dollar affecting underdeveloped countries economy on: March 03, 2024, 08:46:22 AM
Obviously, you are getting it wrong. The dollar is not increasing in value in other countries; rather, its local currency value is decreasing on the general market, and this has to do with the economic situation of the country.

Yeah, exactly, you' not starving , you're just out of food !  /s

We also must not forget that although this can be used as an excuse, internal factors also have a big influence and impact if the wrong decision is made, for example government policy, infrastructure development, the level of corruption that occurs at almost all levels of government so that it quickly weakens the country's economy to the point where underdeveloped countries so it is not easy to recover to improve people's welfare.

 They are the only true influence, that's why some countries have not had their currencies lose value against the USD while some are adding a zero each month, the more idiotic and incapable the government the deeper the hole in which it dragged both the country and its citizens.

This BRICS currency is put forward as an alternative to the dollar and when these countries have fully started using it, am sure the dollar would be less used for international trade of which causes the hike in the prices locally after shipments or imports have been dropped.

Kindergarden level logic:
If the currencies of countries that form SHITS BRICS are losing purchasing power against the dollar and are ditched by everyone, how would another currency backed by the same countries be used more? Suddenly someone who doesn't accept rubles and rupiah because they are devaluing like there is no tomorrow are suddenly going to trust the same economics genus and accept it.

Seriously?
If the guys behind onecoin and bitconnect would come together and launch a new coins, would you buy it?
386  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why inflated countries should adopt Bitcoin to help boost their economy. on: March 02, 2024, 04:43:10 PM
We calculate Bitcoin's value in USD, so when a country buys a Bitcoin with its worthless fiat and stores it, waits for the price to rise and then sells it, isn't it going to help them economically? If they buy it at 20K USD and sell at 40K USD, they are doing 2x profit. The profit in USD matters the most for countries with high inflation because they depend on USD for import and export and their national currency is tied to USD because people value real estate, cars and other things in USD when they buy and sell it.

Theory, when it comes to practice not so much! Just as you have devalued your currency buy buying usd and bitcoin, the moment you sell your bitcoins for usd and using that to import stuff you're tilting the balance in the opposite way, increasing the parity of your coins against the dollar and against bitcoin and slowly removing all the effects. But the more important thing is that to do this on a scale that it would matter you would basically be at the mercy of the other countries, since for your investment to grow you need others to also buy, and when you sell you need others to buy your coins and obviously not dump a shitload exactly one day before you have your loan payments

But long story short, nobody managed that with gold, nobody will be able to do it with Bitcoin.
Again, if eveything at macro level would be as easy as individual finances!

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I believe it is fair to conclude that only a small minority of Africans can afford to pay the existing transaction fees for daily purchases.

So, then why did you say that adoption will magically change eveything when adoption with a minuscule minority is not possible?
387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain technology has the potential to transform government on: March 02, 2024, 04:23:53 PM
Technology that resemble blockchain already exist since late 90s. But on other hand, i wonder since when they use blockchain. I haven't done through research, but it looks like they create their own distributed immutable system since 2007, but later decide to call it blockchain.

The project started in 2007, it went online in different stages but it was called blockchain since being released to the public.
But again, the naming wouldn't have mattered even if they would have chosen another name, say keychain or something because if we go by the basics it's a blockchain, not decentralized but truly a blockchain storing hashes of personal data instead of transactions.

It simply doesn't work in practical terms.

We have one country that has been using it for almost two decades, now and you still it doesn't work?

Yes,bitcoin Is based on the blockchain network,its just like the symbiotic relationship that exists between two living organisms in biology,where both organisms benefit from each other support,interaction and existence.

Nothing like that, blockchains can exist without bitcoin, bitcoin can't exist without a blockchain.
388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Or Investing which one is better to focus on right now? on: March 02, 2024, 04:12:00 PM
Trading Or Investing which one is better to focus on right now?

If you're asking yourself this question is obviously investing!
Asking this clearly proves you're not that confident in trading or you would have already tried and the results would have sufficed as an answer, when you're seeking stranger opinions that for sure won't come with the  minimal knowledge pack that will at least make sure you won't get wiped clean in the first day, better stick with buying and holding.


for traders, they will continue their trading. Even in a bull situation, some traders may find it easier to profit than in the opposite market situation.


To be able to lose money in a period with 20% up gains in 7 days period one must be one hell of a bad trader.
During bull runs everyone makes money, I want to see the trader that makes money while we're dumping 75% down over a year, cause from all the stories here there isn't one successful one, only tales of guys quitting trading cause no TA in the world can keep up with that.
389  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Ilya Lichtenstein gives new testimony on: March 02, 2024, 12:34:23 PM
I’m glad that in my city people understand that a man whose daughter is studying in America and whose wife lives in Europe will not do anything good for Russia.

Oh, so the protest where against your foreign affair minster too?

Cause the daughter of Lavrov was not only born in the US because her mother choose to go there in her last month of pregnancy for her to be granted citizenship but also she attended New York’s Columbia University! So, say it, a guy like Lavrov is a traitor! I dare you ! Say it!
Or that piece of shit traitor Dmitry Peskov who sent his daughter to study in Paris! Say it  Grin Grin
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/12/us/kremlin-kids-in-the-west-invs/index.html

You people have been brainwashed till there is no trace of synapse dust there, eveything is bad in the western world yet every single one of your politicians sends his kids to European and american universities and buys mansions and villas in Europe and gets married and has children's there to get double citizenship.
But the europe bad, us terrible, russia stonk!

You have a very negative opinion about Russia because you read news that happens mainly in Moscow.

Lols at the ridiculous situation when one admits that jumping out of the window is how the justice works there, but it only happens in the capital, nothing bad!



390  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cloud Mining recommendations on: March 02, 2024, 10:20:01 AM
Their cloud mining biz was so fleeting so I'm not surprised this is my first time hearing about this. If I'm not wrong, the timeline started on 2022 and ended on 2023 lol because earliest stuff I could find were all on 2022 and then there was this 4 month old reddit post implying it's long gone, see: https://www.reddit.com/r/kucoin/comments/17ohffa/kucoin_screwed_bitcoin_cloud_mining/

You've got to be ****** me:

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As we explained before,If you bought cloud mining product, kindly note the capital will not return.

For real?

As for the timeline, maybe only 5 months in 2023?
https://www.kucoin.com/news/en-kucoin-pool-launches-the-cloud-mining-partner-recruitment-program
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03/27/2023, 13:16:03

https://blockworks.co/news/kucoin-mining-pool-halt-operations
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The pool will suspend operations on Aug. 15 at 12 pm ET

They closed it at the same time as Viabtc, June and July were terrible, the income dropped to some 6 cents/th, just for comparison one year before they were at 12 cents and in 2021 at over 30cents.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool Observer Topic on: March 02, 2024, 10:09:42 AM
First of all, can anyone explain what causes such a sudden sharp rise in number of transactions? This just happened now.

That is a bit of a misleading graph, it's not tx per second, it is in vb/s.
So assuming I'm the only user if I send a consolidation one like :
https://mempool.space/tx/c5d2b9d5ae8941f05fd9be2a040564ab0c81f9af3cacde4bf3862e5c4a5299e7
that is ‎43 000 vb/s
if I send 10 of this
https://mempool.space/tx/9021a8d8061c5201aac5441e9bb171c572d2d9a62fa94e7a9a46948b3f809741
‎it's 1920 vb/s

Basically any service consolidating will make a spike in that graph.


Ordinal minting bot badly configured, not the first time:
https://ordiscan.com/address/bc1qgc7nldyvcz6uqjfmpx8nvj7zh644xz0tj8k9xp
392  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Ilya Lichtenstein gives new testimony on: March 02, 2024, 09:59:07 AM
In other words, if you want to avoid a big prison sentence (or any sentence at all), all you have to do is to include as many people as possible in your "scam business" that you will blame for everything if business goes downhill. For me, the person who thought up and organized everything is the most guilty, and only then those who helped him in it.

There is another thing and the main reason why two of them got away so easily, they've forfeit the money , the DoJ managed to seize 34 millions (and this was the reason for Sharma getting the sentence as he was in possession of that wallet) and the rest also complied with giving up the sums requested by the plaintiff.
This is one of the reasons some get life sentences and some a slap on the wrist on financial crimes, if the money is recovered and the victims compensated you can get away with it fairly easy as in the end there are technically no victims unlike in a murder.

In my country, whoever confesses first is the witness

In your country whoever doesn't shout Sieg Putler jumps out of the window.
No matter how rotten the US system is it's still 10000 years ahead of the russian one!
393  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Exhaust temp of a miner on: March 02, 2024, 09:40:39 AM
Where did he bring that 35w from?

Seems pretty close to 1231j/3600seconds, so the energy for heating up 1 cubic meter of air by 1 degree Celsius, but that would be 0.342 , so 34...? I don't know obviously the starting point for that guy's math

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Then the biofuel data I have is the following:
3 types are possible but let's only consider the cheaper one because this will give me the worse case scenario against the miner
m³ of wood chip = 30€ (it was not told me how many m³ would be needed a year, or even in tons - I could convert m³ of wood chip into tons)

Oh no, please no!  Grin
While I'll probably be the closest person on this forum to that field, as we do raise shrub willow for biofuel, wood is a pain in the ass to make math on heating with it, first nobody uses cubic meters when you deal with wood, you either go for kuub or stere, and then there is the whole thing of moisture content and ash for chips(pellets or how you call them in your country) and then the type of wood. No, if you don't want headaches and you have a business plan, go with gasoline, ethanol, bunker oil, gas, anything.

But if you want to stick with it, they are rated 5 kWh/kg for soft wood (evergreens), grab the price from the first pack that is sold at your local store and that's it!

So, if it's simply heating and you're not doing your graduation paper on it, this is all you need.
Packed for consumption it's 30cents (euro) (central europe) /kilo and goes for 5kwh of energy, so 6 cents per kwh. Of course, this is packaged consumption, for a space of 9000cubic meters, so 40 by 50 by 4.5 meters (almost larger than our livestock pen) you will buy by the truck. Again, not eveything gets converted that easily but for assumptions, let's ignore a bit that!

I'll come back on this after the weekend, the math I do during Saturday and Sunday is not even kinder garden material as I'm usually typing from the sofa with beer in my hand, but I'm anyhow going to drive to my parents so I'll pick the data from out dual boilers, they are rated 50kw so that would be enough for your model while accounting for efficiency, unfortunately I can't find the manual online anymore (10 years old machines).
394  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Exhaust temp of a miner on: March 01, 2024, 12:15:35 PM
Not sure that's that straigt forward. The miner is rated at 3500W but not all that power is converted to heat, right? Good part of it will go for the computing itself, I guess. Or am I wrong? Can we consider that the total amount of input power is, in the end, converted to heat?

Yes! Computing is a not a form of energy, heat is the product of computing, passing electricity though the components, or transformation of electricity to heat!

The other issue I have is that the data I have on conventional systems are like in watts produced.

Not an issue!

Because if I want to prove that, in terms of costs, a miner can compete with another system, I have to account things like how much time the same volume takes to reach a specific temperature, if the conventional system is working non-stop, how many tons of biofuel it takes, etc!

It's actually pretty simple, you're basically comparing heating via biofuels with heating via electricity!
As I said before, it  all depends what you try to achieve and from which part you want to start:
- you want to know how much it costs to heat a room from 40 to 50 Celsius, you calculate the volume of the room, the amount of BTU needed and then turn that into watts and biofuel!
- you want to know how much heat $1 will give you , you convert that into kwh based on the price of 1kwh and the price of one gallon/liter of biofuel.
The only difference is that for each kwh burned the miner will make up a few cents back!

I can't really throw numbers around without knowing what you want to compare and what's the endgame but even if I would not be capable of doing the math there are enough here that could help you, so just give us a rough description of what you have in mind and we'll try to help!



395  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: UK regulator issued 450 alerts for illegal crypto ads in 2023 on: March 01, 2024, 11:18:07 AM
This was written by the famous Russian

It was written 2 millennia's before:
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velle est posse
which means to be willing to do something means being able to do it.
396  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Exhaust temp of a miner on: March 01, 2024, 11:09:46 AM
The goal is to compare how much it costs to heat up an enclosed space using miners and using other conventional heating systems. Namelly in industrial envirnoments where the conventional systems are quite expensive, from what I could already unerstand. Biofuel systems ro be more precise!
So, I need to get some knowledge how fast a miner can heat up a specific volume up to s specific temperature, calculate costs, ROI, etc and then do the same thing for any other conventional system like the ones using biofuels.

Wait a minute, if it's heating, why do you this round-about way?
A 3500W miner will burn the same electricity as a 3500W heater and will throw out as much heat as the other!
It's the law of thermodynamics, videocard, asic, oven, heater, the heat generation is the same, you can't destroy energy.

You have a formula for biodiesel, quick search it's ~127,960 Btu/gal, you know the W/BTU formula, all you have to do is factor the cost of both and add the revenue for the miner.

397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Satoshi worked for the NSA? on: March 01, 2024, 10:50:32 AM
I don’t think Satoshi was in NSA plainly because i think it would be hard to be famous but at the same time anonymous when you are working for a government agency.

Name one guy you know that works for the NSA !
See how easy is for them to keep being anonymous?  Cheesy

He did not create Bitcoin because his NSA overlords financed its creation or issued commands to him. And he could be reading your post here and laughing out loud LOL!

Or maybe some guys from the NSA are reading this now and they are high-fiving each other while congratulating, hey, we fooled another one!  Wink

Poll results so far showing 10 users voting NO and nobody voting YES!

20-2, denial is strong in this crowd!  Grin Grin Grin

But I think that the results are not really what people think and more what they wish it would be like, the halvening is near, the price has skyrocketed, everyone is pouring money into it, there is absolutely nothing negative around I've heard in months, not one tiny thing and now imagine Haugh comes in front of the congress with a signed message with Satoshi's key saying yeah, it was us all along!

 

I always love these "secret" meetings where there is a guy taking photos and everyone is smiling at the camera for a picture nobody was supposed to see...

398  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Exhaust temp of a miner on: March 01, 2024, 10:26:03 AM
1W= 3.41 BTUs/hr , standard formula.

So this project I'm working on is on a very tight leash because everything I good I tell about using a miner to other purposes other than exclusivelly for mining

I'm a bit curious what you plan on doin with it, if it's other than heating stuff.
Probably I don't have to tell you but capturing back energy from that heat in the air is really beyond what one can call just hard to do.

399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 5G positive effects on Bitcoin on: March 01, 2024, 10:12:39 AM
This is the reason why the vast majority of nodes are connected by fiber-optic Etherenet cables - there are options for >1Gbps like 5Gbps and 10Gb speeds, and there is extremely low latency since it's wired.

This was the reply I was looking for, you can run your node or even miner on 4G if you want but at the end of the day it makes realistically not much sense. The chances of a user having to run a node , enough energy to keep it powered up and at the same time no internet cable near by are pretty slim, but try to find this in an area that has 5G coverage and you're talking about the near impossible.
And in a city center, what would be the point?

In addition, 5G mobile stations consume a significantly larger amount of energy, so I once read that in China they even turned them off during certain parts of the day to save energy.

5G consumes less electricity on the same data, the problem is that to reach the same coverage as they have shorter range you need far more 5G towers than 4G.
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why inflated countries should adopt Bitcoin as a Legal Tender on: February 29, 2024, 04:00:12 PM
It does not matter whether a nation/country bans BTC. Bitcoin is censorship-resistant to all such old school tactics.

You think? How many bitcoin users do you know from North Korea?
Bitcoin has never seen a truly heavily enforced ban yet, and hopeful we won't, but to think that all would be ok with one it's just really day dreaming.
How many times would you piss yourself if bitcoin ownership would come with a life sentence in your country and you would hear  knock at the door at 2 am?

Bitcoin adoption in Africa could turn the state of the continue around. Many African countries are dealing with hyperinflation and other economic issues and there's no doubt that Bitcoin adoption could provide a much better alternative to the failing traditional financial system in the country.

How many Africans would afford to pay a tx, right now 63 sat/vB $5.57 for daily purchases?
How many Africans would be able to use Bitcoin since we're talking about a max of 400-500k transactions a day?
Oh, let's make it simpler, how many times have you used bitcoin yourself lately in RL?  Wink

Again people, there some serious differences between personal finances and a nation's economy!
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