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481  Economy / Economics / Re: Tech Layoffs on: February 01, 2024, 05:00:26 PM
You are conflating the concept of money with an economic system (that I happen to disagree with). Bitcoin is a currency and even communist countries have currencies. I see no direct relation to capitalism.

And you are changing the narrative as you see fit

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If he did not buy more Bitcoin at regular intervals then it is his own fault for missing investment opportunities.
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It being an investment that steadily and quickly rises in value is nothing more than a bonus to me.
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Bitcoin is the most important asset. And that is not going to be changing anytime soon.
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Personally, I would invest it all into Bitcoin and a few smaller investments in other cryptocurrencies

Your words in the last month alone, you have always treated Bitcoin as an investment asset so how come the sudden change?

Tell me, how is it that Europe and the US both have free markets and yet in the US, there are no adequate safety nets for individuals who get into financial troubles?

Because that's what a free market is!
Just like Bitcoin, you lose your keys nobody is able to help you!
What's the commie protection plan for Bitcoins? BIP-CCP?  Grin

~bleah, saw those arguments so many times it stops even being funny

You actually have one point of bitcoin being anything close to a communist system
- central authority
- planned economy
- fixed prices
and not a capitalist one
- complete free market with nobody supervising a transaction
- prices determined by supply and order
- individual with capital can buy and individual without can wait in line at faucet
- no tax on the wealthier, no extra % tax on those holding more coins, same fee if you transfer 1009 satoshi and 1 million BTC?

Why base your economic system on the concept: the greedier the better?

So you're into Bitcoin because you want to help with incarceration levels in the US, not because you want MOAR MONEY and you're not putting your capital into it to get more capital, you do it to save the Earth from the Bilderberg reptilians!  Cheesy
Yeah right, keep lying to yourself if it makes you feel better, but that won't make falsehood real!
482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool Observer Topic on: February 01, 2024, 04:13:11 PM
There is no post of him that explicitly says so
Many scammers tried to push on this narrative,  which is false, as far as I know.

You're falling in the same trap when you will deny any change just because it was previously supported by an individual you don't like.
The math is pretty clear, the outcome is also, you will never be able to have adoption and cheap transfers this way, and for LN to actually be used en masse, well you will still need bigger blocks unless you want fake decentralization with custodial wallets.
Oh, and last day fees were 8123 4TB ssd, that means users spent that much on fees a day while nodes (which are also run by users) won't be able to spend that ..in two years...cause cost!  Wink

But is there any technical limitation that would prevent an upgrade to 8 mb? I think there is none but i honestly dont know

Yeah, it's called periaqueductal gray synapse meltdown, or in layman terms, die hard bitcoiners letting go of their ego.
Won't happen!
483  Economy / Economics / Re: Energy crisis? What energy crisis? Oil dips to 3 months low despite OPEC cuts! on: February 01, 2024, 03:55:02 PM
I wonder how the russian geniuses ae going to spin this



So right now gas traded in the EU is 25% lower than before the russian  invasion of Ukraine
But it doesn't stop here, LNG is actually even cheaper:

https://aegis.acer.europa.eu/terminal/price_assessments

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2024.01.31   26.636   26.911   26.761   -3.474

trading at a 3.4 euros discount, which makes LNG now 38% cheaper than Russian gas two years ago on the same date!
So:
- muscovy is selling less gas at cheaper prices, but trolls will say it makes more money
- Eu is not consuming as much gas because it's more expensive by by cheaper than it was , toll logic 2
- the gas prices goes down because...muscovy is selling more although it sell less
- LNG is cheaper than gas because...russian mumbo jumbo

Meanwhile, China is saying a big FU to the same russian gas:
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Massive-New-Russian-Natural-Gas-Pipeline-to-China-Faces-Delays.html

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Russia and China are still at odds over the costs and delivery prices of a new major Russian natural gas pipeline to China, which could lead to delays in construction, according to the prime minister of Mongolia, which is planned to host a section of the infrastructure.

How to be a financial genius
- threaten the second largest economy with economic war so you end up selling less for cheap
- try to find a new market to replace the EU by having to cough out the money end up selling even cheaper than cheap
- end up being again a slave under the  Yuan XI dynasty

But muscovy stonk, cause... reason

484  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: February 01, 2024, 03:23:43 PM

Bitmain dumping the j xp series, so they are probably done with the S19 and only focus on the S21 from now
But honestly ...
After Coupon 16.1 $/T vs  17.5 $/T with  one at 21.5J/T and the other at 17.5J/T
Still the s21 look more attractive with coupons (of course if you have them)
They also dropped the price of the hydro to 8.4 $/T, but the efficiency on that is just bad!

Still weird, they have a ton of pre-orders, do they have also a ton of stock, I wonder if we'll see the most efficient gear at $10/th if the halving doesn't come with a price bump!

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Latest Block:   828397  (31 minutes ago)
Current Pace:   105.9973%  (1838 / 1734.01 expected, 103.99 ahead)
Next Retarget (earliest):   Tomorrow at 9:18 PM  (in 1d 3h 59m 17s)

Down to more realistic figures, so counting the -3.8% last time it because just an average of ~1% per two weeks, rounding error.



485  Economy / Economics / Re: Tech Layoffs on: February 01, 2024, 02:34:20 PM
End-stage-capitalism, basically. Americans are going to be at each other's throats at the crescendo.

Yeah bruh, capitalisms is going to die...every century now
You do realize you're here because you like Bitcoin which is the pure essence of capitalism, where the one with the cash buys and earns some more and the owe with nothing (no capital will be forever a no coiner just as poor as he was before?

And furthermore, you remember how Bitcoin as supposed to kill middleman, kill banks, all that because there was no need for them anymore?
Look what bitcoin bought, thsoaudns of jobs exactly in the fields that it was supposed to destroy!

Also, all doom and gloom lovers, postpone your party:
https://apnews.com/article/unemployment-benefits-jobless-claims-layoffs-labor-02b17c02f52ff4f68090a3f67f9e45c8
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More Americans filed jobless benefits last week but layoffs remain at historically low levels despite elevated interest rates and a flurry of job cuts in the media and technology sectors. Weekly unemployment claims are viewed as representative for the number of U.S. layoffs in a given week. They have remained at extraordinarily low levels despite high interest rates and elevated inflation.




486  Economy / Economics / Re: Tech Layoffs on: January 31, 2024, 03:08:20 PM
What do you think? Is it just a shrinkage and normalization after the strong build-up of the workforce during Corona or a long-term trend that will accelerate through the use of AI?

It's returning to normal, the madness in covid hiring had to stop at one point.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/22/tech/big-tech-pandemic-hiring-layoffs/index.html

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By September of 2022, Amazon (AMZN) had more than doubled its corporate staff compared to the same month in 2019, hiring more than half a million additional workers and vastly expanding its warehouse footprint. Meta nearly doubled its headcount between March 2020 and September of last year. Microsoft (MSFT) and Google (GOOGL GOOGLE) also hired thousands of additional workers, as did other tech firms like Salesforce (CRM), Snap (SNAP) and Twitter, all of which have announced layoffs in recent weeks, too.



Everyone went nuts in hiring IT related workforce, some going completely nuts and hiring more than even the wildest expansion would ever require,  I work in logistics and while my company wasn't that bad at this one of our partner bought maintenance services alone that would have been enough for a business 100 times their size, they are now paying a contract for 8 or 10 months left in which basically the technicians come and look at each other. We have a case of unpacked servers that were never needed and probably will rot in the storage, unless we would be able to buy ourselves those, or maybe even receive as a gift  Roll Eyes

It's not something special it's business realizing they have expanded their workforce well beyond their profitability limits and that there is no growth that would ever make those inflated numbers profitable.



487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Less than 80 days until the 4th Ever #Bitcoin Halving on: January 31, 2024, 12:02:46 AM
After the 4th halving miner will be able to generate only 600K+ fresh BTC to cover their expenses and fulfill their satisfaction. only 600K😲😲!! 17500x lower from the Genesis day!!

600 000 x 17 500  is 10,500,000,000 so about 500x times the number of all coins ever to exist!
You sure about that?

Assuming the 600k means the coins mined during this next epoch with 3.12 block reward there are 656,250 of them and they are exactly 1/16 of the coins mined before the first halving. But in terms of price, since each coin will probably be at least 40k they will be closer to 24 billions, so 240x times what the coins before the first having were valued at that moment.

So there might be a reduction in number of coins by 16 times, but the sum you have to cough up to cover them is still at least 240 times bigger.  Wink
488  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ViaBTC free slots available [1 Jan 2024] on: January 30, 2024, 11:41:41 PM
I'm always looking at the 10sat/vb and this is now down to 329vMB from almost 400 a week ago
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So that's -71 vMB in a week? That's the problem indeed: even without new Ordinal spam, the backlog takes forever to clear.

Revisiting this since despite the weekend the 10sat/b wall has gone up to 348vMB, so as I was saying, statistics, they cna come and bite you in the ass as soon as you let your mouth babble about.......and with that and sporadic spikes of over 35sat/b people might stilt take a chance on ViaBTC.

Speaking of Viabtc:
https://mempool.space/block/0000000000000000000027d7dda32229f3e774dafd550278fa3c87a2381ceaaa
This might be a reason for the cut in a free 100tx, in the last block Viabtc paid me I checked and for sure about 50-100 tx were internal payments and moving of coinbase coins, dunno why they do it in splits sometimes but...their business.
489  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Is Bitcoin mining a profitable business? on: January 30, 2024, 02:54:10 PM
It depends. Mining takes a lot of investment—equipment, electric bills, internet, and more than you can imagine.

Electric bills and internet are running costs, not investment!

but it is possible if you can afford it and are knowledgeable about building a fine and efficient mining rig.

Nobody builds mining rigs, you buy an ASIC, you put it on a shelf and you power it on, the only time the miners decides on efficiency is when he buys the type of gear he will mine with it. 

Bitcoin mining was profitable but now gradually decreasing mining hash rate regularly.

Yeah I can see that decrease:


100% up in a year /S

So that when you join a mining pool, you have the opportunity to be able to do more creative things within the circle and industry, and as well you need that funding to be able to do quite a number of things, for example, an affordable electricity, to earn rewards that you are planning or that you are aiming in the mining industry even if it is not monthly though.

Creative things , like?
Writing poems about bankruptcy or what?   Grin

I have a feeling that more times passes and Bitcoin grows as well as adoption the more of a mystery mining begins to look to some, much like religion!
I mean seriously, it's basic business, you have x and y, just as you plan a donut shop near NYPD headquarters or a pork ribs food stall in Riyadh, it's pure economy, you have the means or you don't, cost and profits, 5th grade elementary school economics.

490  Economy / Economics / Re: China’s Debt-to-GDP Ratio Rises a Record of 286.1% on: January 30, 2024, 02:42:02 PM
Evegrande and the entire Chinese real estate boom was a very large deviation from what a centrally planned economy would look like.
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If China had proper central planing for housing there would be no need for a market-based approach to this issue, which is essentially the root cause to tis issue.

Lol, no central planning?
https://www.fujian.gov.cn/english/news/202108/t20210809_5665713.htm

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We will uphold the principle that housing is for living rather than for speculation, and accelerate the establishment of a housing system with diverse suppliers, multiple channels of support, and combined renting and purchase, to ensure access to housing and balanced job and housing provisions for all people. We will implement a host of measures based on local conditions and ensure that urban governments have the primary responsibility for keeping land and housing prices and expectations stable. We will establish a linkage mechanism between housing and land, strengthen financial regulation of real estate, give full play to the regulatory role of housing tax, support reasonable demand for owner-occupied housing, and curb speculative and investment-related demand for housing.

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We will formulate a separate land use plan for rental housing, explore the use of collective construction land and idle land owned by enterprises and public institutions to build rental housing, and support the conversion of non-residential housing into affordable rental housing. We will improve the mechanism for distribution of income from land transfer, and increase fiscal, taxation, and financial support. We will develop shared ownership housing in line with local conditions, properly handle the relationship between basic guarantee and non-basic guarantee and improve the way of housing guarantee and the policies on the targets, threshold, and exit management concerning housing guarantee

A lot of people mistake the fact that private companies build something it automatically means there is no government control.
So let's clear a bit of those:
- no company can build how much it wants, every local authority and every regional government has pre-approved quotas
- local governments can force final prices on specific projects and can enforce a minimum price
- the central government can make quotas on new buildings, denying building in big cities and enforcing building in smaller ones (mainly to prevent migration), even without demand there, even if in the past 10 years only 10% of the buildings have been sold, the quota must be met!
- the main government and province governs issue permits and quotas outside the real market on new real estate building, you don't buy land and seek approval for you project like in the west, you first register, your company gets approved and you can build a x where y meets z on predesign land
- the whole hukou thing, basically treating migrant workers as second class citizens, denying the right to buy or sell a house without permit

Does this look like a free market?

491  Economy / Economics / Re: China’s Debt-to-GDP Ratio Rises a Record of 286.1% on: January 30, 2024, 01:51:26 PM
China is doing better in some economic aspects due to the very fact that they have central planning and can plan big parts of the economy bssed on national interests instead of short term profits of individuals.

Yeah:
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67562522

Perfect central planning
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The firm has been the poster child of China's real estate crisis with more than $300bn (£236bn) of debt.

1.5 million houses for which people have already paid for which there is no money to finish them and 600 000 sold houses that are just on paper with not one brick laid and for which Chinese buyers are already indebt and paying mortgages worth everywhere between another 60 billion and 120 billion!
Yup, definitely thinking of the national interest!

But I have no doubt Franky will come here and tell US that debt that can't be paid back is even better than debt that grows the GDP, because ...reasons!

yep stompix purposefully ignored "in shipments" to pretend to then say his stat proves iphones are #1 ranking of all chinese bought phones

Oh Franky, I always forget English is your sixth language you never learned
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prAP51817224



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A shift of power that we saw on the worldwide stage also happened in China, the largest smartphone market globally. Apple became the leading smartphone company in China for the first time with record high market share of 17.3% in 2023. According to preliminary data from the International Data Corporation (IDC)

Yeah Franky, top smartphone brand by SALES in CHINA is APPLE! Deal with reality!
492  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: ACN trading platform: legit or scam? on: January 28, 2024, 06:30:41 PM
he says he has already successfully withdrawn profits from this ACN trading platform several times...

And all this in just the 56 days since the domain has been bought?
Not only did it take time to set the website, then for this guy to find it out, and despite NYW and Christmas he already has made succefull withdrawals?

I came across this platform in a whatsapp group I joined weeks ago (I'm not even sure how I joined it) where they trade contracts. I've been taking a look at the group's activity every now and then. They used to post 2 signals a day but the last couple of weeks only 1 signal is being released every evening. There's an analyst who shares daily news every morning and posts the signal in the evening

Use logic!
If you already have the signals why are you forced to use this platform and not a larger one full of liquidity? Why?
Obvious reason is....

The only reason I do it in this case is somehow the hope it could be legit after all since I'm currently facing a terrible financial situation (just returned home after several months in hospital due to an accident that resulted in a spinal cord injury; this has drained all my life savings and now I urgently need to buy a wheelchair and a platform lift, hire a contractor to get rid of some obstacles and so on...obviously thousands of euros, which I don't have, are needed for all this);

You're going to lose all your money with this, I know how tough it it is, I've been though the ordeal of dealing with this although on smaller scale but this is not the way out of this. And!! I must add that even if a platform is legit, even if the guy is a top trader, there are risks, nobody saw LUNA or FTX crashing, would you afford to lose 30% if the bear market returns?

493  Economy / Economics / Re: China’s Debt-to-GDP Ratio Rises a Record of 286.1% on: January 28, 2024, 03:59:19 PM
Talking about the US debt isn't "low effort propaganda".

Oh, it is! It's like the teacher asking you why you didn't do your homework and you point at the other guy saying he didn't eat all his carrots! Why?
Is it that impossible to have a conversation on a country alone and not go full crazy on but what about the US, but the US, what about the US, look at the US,
Although now that I think, yeah, it might not be low effort propaganda, it might be a sign of a meltdown because of a rejected green card!

Imagine how discussions on Bitcoin would be if at every pace someone would say but what about ethereum but what about solana!

Other countries like Japan and the UK also have ridiculous levels of government debt.

Yeah, and we have heard of Japan collapsing because of this for 3 decades yet, remember how the UE was supposed to crash because of PIGS? It all depends who owns that debt and what it was used to prop, in China it's spiraling out of control and its used to prop a sector of the economy that makes 30% of their GDP and it's unable to prop up even by enforcing minimal prices on houses and apartments so their value can't go down.

All the US producing is worthless papers.

I remember how Iranians were chatting death to America at Soleimani burial while his coffin was in a Chevy truck and his daughter was taking pictures with an Iphone, speaking of
Apple takes top spot in China’s smartphone market for the first time
Who's buying who?  Grin
494  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2024 Diff thread happy New Years. on: January 28, 2024, 03:32:12 PM
At 8% if it will be the case this is going to be the largest jump in hashrate ever, of course it comes after a decline but still it might go above 40 Exashah, the previous records were 34 and 30, it's just insane how it keep growing.

Fees down, price recovering a bit, with this ew jump we're going back to 7.5 cents per th/s.
Also fees in % reward has hit a new low of 5%, lowest point since November.
And riot is planning 100 exahash till 2025  Grin

Funny thing, with all these swings 4% down and 8% up the hashrate still looks just as distributed as previously, as If every single thing is affecting all pools nearly the same with little variance.
495  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who is top bitcoin competitor? on: January 28, 2024, 03:15:04 PM
Some of them is because of there usage, demand etc. that have made them successful. Ethereum, Binance and Solana are a typical example.

Binance coin?
A centralized shitcoins that will go down when Binance goes and that was pumped with the fees Binance is fleecing its gullible users?
Nobody in its right mind would want to touch that unless forced by being tied with its finances to that exchange!

Governments and centralized authorities can create their own cryptocurrencies, but they face challenges in the areas of decentralization, trust and user adoption.

Why would they face such  things?
First they don't care about decentralization, trust is already there, you're using your national currency every day, you go to  shop and that shop accepts it, that's the trust, as for adoption, that can come in a second, all they have to do is pay all govemermnt wages in that coin, then merchants will have no choice but to adopt it since they need to sell stuff, and that's it, it's done in a day.
If a govemermnt would truly want that they could simply stop printing cash, migrate all bank deposits and balances to the new CBDC and here you have it, how would you be able to stop it?
496  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who is top bitcoin competitor? on: January 27, 2024, 02:56:49 PM
I get your point but what I meant is that Bitcoin is a Cryptocurrency and of course it's possible some other coin surpasses it in the future but the chances of something like that happening is so thin it's currently negligible and seems impossible.

I love how you managed to contradict yourself in a 20 words phrase!

Besides that it would be a loss on the side of whales so they probably won't let that happen.

Whales..
Kodak, Nokia, Saab, TOYS R US , Compaq and hundreds others have disappeared in a few decades with whales with a different size of pockets behind them, if you look at a longer time span you see entire countries that have disappeared and you think Bitcoin is something magically that can't be overcome by anything?
There is no such thing as impossible, you're looking at thing that is barely 14 years old and you think it will last millennia unchallenged?

I'm probably one of the most biased bitcoin maxi here but I even I wouldn't dare make a century old prediction.






497  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Who is top bitcoin competitor? on: January 27, 2024, 02:12:55 PM
Firstly the story that a coin in the future will surpass Bitcoin someday is actually a myth.

Lol, what? You're going to tell me that there is zero chance that by 303 000 AD when we first exist the Milky Way there is another coin surpassing Bitcoin?
Zero chance?

The government own billions of population,

Common, let's stop already with this!
This whole non-sense is getting really repetitive and out of date, of course if we talk about real government and not dictatorships in shitholes like Russia or Iran or North Korea. I've heard that for the US like every day, they will kill Bitcoin because is a threat to the USD meanwhile:
- the US will kill bitcoin will not accept it anywhere, yet the largest companies that accept Bitcoin payments are in the US
- the US will ban bitcoin mining, they will crack down on every miner, yet you have the largest hashrate and listed stock companies there
- the US will never legalized any aspect of Bitcoin, done, done and done
- the US will never allow an ETF, it's a threat to wall street and bank and investments fund...d'oh!
- largest number of ATMS where you can purchase coins, done, largest number of nodes, done, largest numbers of LN channels done!
So, how are they trying to kill it?

So who is this evil gubbermint you're talking about , and again, not some shithole country?

Government wants control over the people, they cannot build something without attaching much value on it for themselves thereby creating a centralized scheme.

You know who created both SHA-2 and TOR?  Wink
498  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CRYPTOLEAKS on: January 27, 2024, 02:01:19 PM
There are few people that i know who never did the business at Amazon or dropshipping, but they are making money by making and selling  the courses on these things. Similarly there are people who do not know the ABC of trading but they are making money by running a crypto signal group, providing useless signals to the masses and earning money from the subscription fee.

The same guys that sell books on how to win the lottery, instead of making 10 millions a month by winning those they try to make $10 000 a year by selling a few books, wonder why? Probably because all those are pure bs and writing is easier than practice?  Grin
Take Kiyosaki for example, renown author, quoted every day but in real life he has gone bankruptcy after bankruptcy, lawsuit after lawsuit, he has never had a profitable business in his life but he's good at writing fantasy novels, cause those have nothing real in them.

If the “accurate” signals can't work for him, then why is he selling them?

Ask this the guy who just yesterday was selling a 101% formula to win millions in a casino for $200.  Wink
499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool Observer Topic on: January 27, 2024, 01:24:38 PM
I highly doubt we're gonna see 1 sat/vB any time soon, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
Maybe during the next bear market (2026-2027)...

Or in a month:
When are we going to see the mempool empty again and 1sat/b confirmations?


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1 month   - 2 (12.5%)
3 months   - 1 (6.3%)
Next year   - 5 (31.3%)
Never again!   - 8 (50%)

It took less than a month since I've opened that topic to see 1 sat/vb again, of course it was not that bad at that time as it is now, the purging was at 7.7 and the actual size of the mempool was about 2/3 of this but still it took one month of normalized traffic, if this trend continues we we will probably hit at least under 10sat/b in a few weeks.
500  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Im so new....Please can someone help me? on: January 26, 2024, 03:30:20 PM
It was www.benchmark.co.com but like I say I cant get access now

Well, I think this settles it:
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/warnings/benchmark-benchmarkcocom

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This firm may be providing or promoting financial services or products without our permission. You should avoid dealing with this firm and beware of scams.
Almost all firms and individuals must be authorised by us to carry out or promote financial services in the UK.
This firm is not authorised by us and may be targeting people in the UK.

https://moneysmart.gov.au/check-and-report-scams/investor-alert-list#!https-benchmark-co-com-1373

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WARNING! Be wary of dealing with this business as it is unlicensed in Australia.
This entity
 is likely to be offering financial services to Australian consumers. It does not hold an Australian financial services licence or Australian credit licence from ASIC, and is not authorised by a licensee. Almost all providers of financial services in Australia must be licensed by ASIC.

So, yeah, you lost that money (if you deposited some) but at least you haven't lost another batch for verifying your identity!

Pretty simple rule:
if someone asks for money to send you more money back > SCAM!
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