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The posts I made yesterday were put with today's date. So yesterday is lost - what's up?
Can anyone answer? Thanks?
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Now I've read a lot of crap over time but this must be in the top 3. Pedophile rights? What does that even mean? How about my right to detonate explosive nuclear devices in highly populated areas? I mean is this even real? Are they going to have a march too? Because I have a new baseball bat I need to break in.
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What fresh hell is this? Where do they get these things? Who makes up such nonsense?
Only in the US will you see such craziness.
Hir? What the hell is that?
There are two genders. Male and female. And that's it.
Now all transgenders will go looking for people to see if they are saying hir and blir.
How is a person to know if someone is male or female?
Guys use makeup. Girls wear short hair and baseball caps.
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These guys will never be content. I mean you do what you want in your country but must all the world fear because you're unhappy?
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But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not?
And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually:
1. it's gonna get dark
2. I'm gonna eat something
3. I'm going to have a cola after it
4. you'll just continue with your babble
5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong.
Man... You're extremely agressive. Where did I say you were wrong? I never said so! I never even just condemned you! I just say that I can have my faith and still be a reasonable logical an rather intelligent person understanding science too! And you don't have faith in science, that's the main principle of science you don't have to have faith in it as it proves things... Dude I was talking to BadDecker. I as agreeing with you. Also BadDecker - it might interest you that I studied theology for 5 years. If that, somehow, entitles me to have an opinion, in front of you. Even if that opinion is different of yours. Nobody is attempting to take your opinion away from you. But if they were, even brainwashing would only dim it for a time. Wake up and study science and see that there is basis within science for theology, just as there is basis in theology for science.  Let me tell you something, as a theology major, that is: theology is nonsense. And I can and am allowed to say that because mine is an informed opinion. I'm not just talking out of my ass. And after 5 years my opinion (doesn't have to be yours too) is that it's just a bunch of hooey. How easy it is to make nonsense up, make people believe it, and then live out of people's ignorance. It's genius! |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain!  Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. I never tried to do so Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^ Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you. Hmm... No i'll also take science ^^ As I said I think you can have both, science and faith, I don't see why I shouldn't understand how the universe works to be able to have the faith to believe in God! You can have both But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not? And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually: 1. it's gonna get dark 2. I'm gonna eat something 3. I'm going to have a cola after it 4. you'll just continue with your babble 5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong. Except that you know none of these things for a fact. You just think you do. The example is that you have been unexpectedly wrong at times in your life. Thank God that He keeps the universe reasonably stable for you that many of the things you predict based on experience actually happen. A lot of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki knew exactly what was going to happen to them in the next minute. Then suddenly they were simply gone, in a second. This is pointless. I'm feeling like don quijote. I'm done. You make me feel sad and tired. You should feel sad and tired... sad that you don't really have any control over your life... and tired, caused by believing two sets of contradicting data. I'm sad that other people are stupid. And I'm tired because talking to you is like talking to a rock. But thank you for telling me that I deserve it. Great encouragement from a Christian. Never expected anything less. I'm already energized again. Jesus is the rock. I am founded on Jesus. Of course talking to me is like talking to a rock... You can't move the foundation of the universe, the Rock, Jesus Christ. Yeah, ok. You're the rock. Fine. Whatever. Don't you have some kids' movies to go to? |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain! Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. I never tried to do so Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^ Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you. Hmm... No i'll also take science ^^ As I said I think you can have both, science and faith, I don't see why I shouldn't understand how the universe works to be able to have the faith to believe in God! You can have both But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not? And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually: 1. it's gonna get dark 2. I'm gonna eat something 3. I'm going to have a cola after it 4. you'll just continue with your babble 5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong. Except that you know none of these things for a fact. You just think you do. The example is that you have been unexpectedly wrong at times in your life. Thank God that He keeps the universe reasonably stable for you that many of the things you predict based on experience actually happen. A lot of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki knew exactly what was going to happen to them in the next minute. Then suddenly they were simply gone, in a second. This is pointless. I'm feeling like don quijote. I'm done. You make me feel sad and tired. You should feel sad and tired... sad that you don't really have any control over your life... and tired, caused by believing two sets of contradicting data. I'm sad that other people are stupid. And I'm tired because talking to you is like talking to a rock. But thank you for telling me that I deserve it. Great encouragement from a Christian. Never expected anything less. I'm already energized again. |
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But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not?
And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually:
1. it's gonna get dark
2. I'm gonna eat something
3. I'm going to have a cola after it
4. you'll just continue with your babble
5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong.
Man... You're extremely agressive. Where did I say you were wrong? I never said so! I never even just condemned you! I just say that I can have my faith and still be a reasonable logical an rather intelligent person understanding science too! And you don't have faith in science, that's the main principle of science you don't have to have faith in it as it proves things... Dude I was talking to BadDecker. I as agreeing with you. Also BadDecker - it might interest you that I studied theology for 5 years. If that, somehow, entitles me to have an opinion, in front of you. Even if that opinion is different of yours. Oh. Well you were quoting me last, but no problem it's a rather hot debate with lots of people talking ^^ And the cola idea was a good one. Gonna take one too! Sorry man. Must have pressed the wrong quote button. And I wasn't trying to be aggressive Maybe I seem like that when I really get involved in a discussion. |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain! Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. I never tried to do so Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^ Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you. Hmm... No i'll also take science ^^ As I said I think you can have both, science and faith, I don't see why I shouldn't understand how the universe works to be able to have the faith to believe in God! You can have both But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not? And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually: 1. it's gonna get dark 2. I'm gonna eat something 3. I'm going to have a cola after it 4. you'll just continue with your babble 5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong. Except that you know none of these things for a fact. You just think you do. The example is that you have been unexpectedly wrong at times in your life. Thank God that He keeps the universe reasonably stable for you that many of the things you predict based on experience actually happen. A lot of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki knew exactly what was going to happen to them in the next minute. Then suddenly they were simply gone, in a second. This is pointless. I'm feeling like don quijote. I'm done. You make me feel sad and tired. |
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But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not?
And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually:
1. it's gonna get dark
2. I'm gonna eat something
3. I'm going to have a cola after it
4. you'll just continue with your babble
5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong.
Man... You're extremely agressive. Where did I say you were wrong? I never said so! I never even just condemned you! I just say that I can have my faith and still be a reasonable logical an rather intelligent person understanding science too! And you don't have faith in science, that's the main principle of science you don't have to have faith in it as it proves things... Dude I was talking to BadDecker. I as agreeing with you. Also BadDecker - it might interest you that I studied theology for 5 years. If that, somehow, entitles me to have an opinion, in front of you. Even if that opinion is different of yours. |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain! Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. I never tried to do so Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^ Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you. Hmm... No i'll also take science ^^ As I said I think you can have both, science and faith, I don't see why I shouldn't understand how the universe works to be able to have the faith to believe in God! You can have both But I do have faith my dear gentlemen - faith in science. That is still faith is it not? And I know what will happen a minute from now. 5 things actually: 1. it's gonna get dark 2. I'm gonna eat something 3. I'm going to have a cola after it 4. you'll just continue with your babble 5. and finally, again, you'll continue to ignore our point if view and insist that you're the only one that is right and all uf us are wrong. |
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Another ad-hominem attack. Do you have a wider set of logical fallacies that you prefer, or do you just stick with special pleading and ad-hominem attacks?
Obviously, you are not very interested. If you were, you would go out and do your own investigating. Then please don't post information you don't understand and for which you cannot provide proof. The fun and interesting part about this thread is conversation and discussion, but you just want to monolog. First, I haven't done any ad-hominem regarding you. You have done them to yourself by expressing that you are ignorant when you are not. I am simply repeating them a little more directly. So, I am not attacking. I am simply pointing out your own self-attacks. Why do you post information that tears down understanding and knowledge? As I have said, I say again. Science proves the existence of God. Science proves the non-existence of fundamental evolution. Science is mixed with fiction which is called theory in science. All you need to do is investigate these, and you will see that they are the truth. Of course, why should I be surprised that there are people ho are spreading lies like you are? Such people have been around almost from the beginning. Stop calling people ignorant just because they have different belief system than you do. It's just rude! "Science proves the existence of God." Dude! If that's true - and by proving meaning that you actually have scientific proof that can be demonstrated and repeated then I'll shut up. Also stop calling people liars. Prove that they're lying, don't just throw ugly words just because you don't agree. |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain! Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. I never tried to do so Even, I tried to explain why I think faith is good but why atheists shouldn't be condemned for not having faith, so you can't say i'm trying to convince you ^^ Finally a reasonable man. You keep you faith. We'll gonna keep science. Hope it'll be well in the end for all of us. Just stop trying to force your religion on us. Yeah BADecker - I'm talking to you. |
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Call me mad but I believe there is a god around us. I just don't think the evolution is questionable, why can't we have both? Lots of scientists were also very religious people. Faith and science are not incompatible. They're different domains. Of course you can have faith and be a scientist, but trying to use one to prove the other is like trying to use maths to prove art -- it completely misses the point. Very true. Yes, they are related to each other in some ways, but they are two different things. It would be unfair to identify one another by the context of the other. Since science theory is not yet proven, if one believes it to be true, he does so on faith. I'm sorry but science only deals with facts. Now if you hear one thing but understand another then that's only your problem. And it's ok. It really is. Believe what you want. Maybe what you shouldn't be doing is call people names? Alrighty then. |
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And elgeo, again, still unable to think, but up to copy and paste rather than typing. Well at least I can type properly. Don't Know about the copy paste though. Well I guess I'll just have to have faith that you're telling the truth. You know what? Faith doesn't give me that much support. Sorry. |
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
Never said the contrary. But science can't explain the creation of the world. Why? Well just simply because in science 0+0 is always 0. If we manage one day to explain the creation of the world "scientifically" it will be by a new way to consider the world which will be as different from current science as from religion. And again science and religion are not opposed! I see no reason to give up one or another. I'm an engineer and I still have the faith! I know by heart the Maxwell's equations but that also makes me even more aware of what science has still not explained and might never explain! Science is sometimes very disruptive. You claim you're an engineer then you probably know that the quantum revolution created a new part of science that couldn't have been even imagined before. If we discover dark matter for example maybe it'll lead us to something totally incredible that might even explain the universe! And that's a complex explanation. I only tried to stay simple with people from let's say a century ago imagining a plane. Faith is good, and people can believe whatever they want, just don't try co convince people that have evidence, to believe things of which you only have a book written by a bunch o guys to stand your words on. |
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Hello fellow scientist! I don't think science and "never" can coexist together.
In time science will explain everything. I wonder when religious nuts will give up their misleading notions and accept reality.
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Until science discovers and proves that nothing is magical. Just because it wasn't explained until now it doesn't mean it's magic. It just means that at the moment we don't understand it.
Imagine showing our world to a person that lived 100 years ago. He'd be dizzy in a moment and maybe couldn't understand or adapt his whole entire life.
Just as a exercise for your mind: think about yourself being born in 1901, and slowly get closer to our times: how many wonderful are really incredible discoveries have been made? It's astonishing!
Thank you science - you rule!
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We live in the real world, not in a fantasy one. Science is real, and can be touched. No one's ever seen God, but I see science making this world better everyday. As it has been told here countless times (BadDecker please don't try to count), it's just common sense.
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An important thing to remember is that the Bible is a collection of books, written by different people in different times addressing different needs of that time period.
I, personally think that if you are and want to be a good person, then you choose the good parts and leave the ones that are not good, or not useful for our modern age aside.
Why can you believe some parts of bible but not all? How can you possibly know what in bible is true and what not? You can't. You could as well believe that god created us because he is sadist who enjoys to kill and torture us. And only way to escape from his evil is to deny his existence. Why not? Again this is easy. We know how the Bible was written. Parts of the Bible gives the world directly from the mouth of Jesus, how could the son of God who lived and died for us be wrong? Any part of the Bible in contradiction with His son is wrong and shouldn't be considered as sacred "You could as well believe that god created us because he is sadist who enjoys to kill and torture us." Maybe. Why not? Exactly, it is as realistic to believe that so why don't you deny his existence to be saved from heaven, where you will be tortured by god forever. "how could the son of God who lived and died for us be wrong?" If I kill my self and say I do it to give you change to deny his existence and escape from his eternal torturing, then you will blindly believe me? Or would you just think I am suicidal carzy person? Maybe if I write good book about it? Oh! I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to explain I can't prove that the Bible is right and that Jesus is the son of god and all that no? Well don't waste your time, of course I can't xD Again it's only a question of faith, and that's why atheists have every right to be so. If you don't have faith then you might consider all of this is just crazy shit. But if you have had the chance to find the Lord, then you KNOW that it's right ^^ But i'm not judging you or trying to convince you. i wouldn't even try to prove God exists, that would be ridiculous. If there was such a proof, there would be no faith.And that should be proof enough that religion is flawed and not true. They only ask us to have faith. Because if they had proof faith would have been obsolete. |
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