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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ?
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on: February 19, 2016, 07:46:25 PM
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Does it have to be mentioned again that there is no measurable evidence for religion/God?
Seems like BADecker isn't aware of it xD A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.
Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders including schizophrenia, paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression. It's sad when they can see it. Actually he's convinced that we're the ones with the delusion. We should believe in God just in case. If I were to do all the things that I think should be just in case... It would be hard. |
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on: February 19, 2016, 07:37:37 PM
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So you really not following Bible, the word of Jesus. He commanded you to kill gays. You stopped listening to Jesus? Why you keep lying? Jesus didn't command anyone to kill gays. It's nowhere in the Bible. Jesus never said that. You are making things up from your head and lying. Why atheists always lie?  He is referring to Leviticus and the fact that Christians believe Jesus and God are one and the same... Plus Jesus specifically says, "not a jot or tittle of the law shall change..." For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Notice the capital L in Law? Signifying God's Law (the Old Testament... Leviticus Law), not man's law Atheists need to start referring to bible thumpers as "Leviticus Law" believers... like how they condemn "Sharia Law", lets do the same with "Leviticus Law" You are making things out of your head. Jesus never said anything like that. You are lying and acting scared Who's feeling threatened now? |
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on: February 19, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
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Atheists feeling threatened? What would we be threatened about? We're not living in the dark ages anymore. You christian guys can go and do whatever you want as long as you've understood the "not bothering people" rule.
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on: February 18, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
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The oldest near factual distance we can go back is barely 5,000 years. Carbon dating has proven itself unreliable. Sumer dating through the "pottery" method suggests an age possibly as far back as 5,000 years. And even that is not a certainty. We can tell that the earth is older than that, but we can't tell haw old beyond that. We absolutely have a lot of guesses, however. Since they are guesses, people who believe them as fact have a religion going for themselves.  Carbon dating is absolutely not unreliable whatever you say. And not only that but carbon dating is not the only method we use to date old things. It's plain stupidity to think that the world is 5k years old. The fact that carbon dating is unreliable isn't my idea by any means. Google it. Even tree ring and ice core samplings are judgmental in the ways they are used to date things. We might be able to go back a little past 4,500 years or so, but beyond that, it becomes very unclear - dating pottery and written-on-clay fragments. Lingual and genetic changes seem to trace back only to about 5,000 years. Beyond that even these kinds of datings become foggy. What else is there other than guesswork? FOGGY? WTF??? Carbon dating is EXTREMELY RELIABLE! Yeah go and Google it! Seems you need to: "The reliability of the results can be improved by lengthening the testing time. For example, if counting beta decays for 250 minutes is enough to give an error of ± 80 years, with 68% confidence." It means you have 70% to have the right date with 80 years error. So if you do it 10 times in a row, you have A FUCKING GOOD RELIABILITY!!! And again carbon 14 datation is not at all the only one used by scientists! Do you even know how it works? and bronze age dating is crystal clear. 13.8 billion is just 6 days and 4.5 billion is 6000 years. Give it take few years  Nothing wrong with the math here. Seems clear to me.  |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:19:12 PM
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Ok, let me tell you something. We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me. Live long and prosper I'm very sorry for the term I used, "not to make war". Same to you live long and may you be prosperous. I'm praying that you will be more successful on what you have now. Again - you don't have to be sorry. The main idea was for you to understand that you can have your own opinion, we can have ours, but no one's being violent about it. That's why you have a brain - to use it. What's important is not to impose unto others with personal beliefs. |
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:14:09 PM
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So an agnostic doesn't believe in God but must believe in something else, whatever that might be?
Otherwise if he doesn't believe in God or other gods he's an atheist?
No. An agnostic doesn't believe in God. It doesn't mean he doesn't believe in something else, he might believe in nothing. An Atheist believes that there is no God. The difference is subtle but important. Atheist refuses the idea that God might exists. Agnostic doesn't really care ^^ So an agnostic might believe there is no God and also that there no other gods as well? I see the difference - this would be an interesting topic indeed. |
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:11:47 PM
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And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'
God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because worst things might occur. . Explain the quote. Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks. Read the rest of the Bible. Please. He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies. Is it moral? Since God is all powerful I guess He's also above morality. The strongest makes the rules. Like in the jungle. |
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:10:32 PM
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And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'
God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because worst things might occur. . Explain the quote. Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks. Read the rest of the Bible. Please. He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies. It's so interesting how you can sometimes interpret things and other times you have to take them literally. But as I said to my earlier posts I came here in peace not to argue and not to make war. I admire all of you guys, I just came here to proof by myself that God exist. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do what you want. But remember, even when you say God doesn't exist, with the word KARMA everything that happens has a purpose as the bible says. God bless you all. Peace be with you guys. I love you all with the love of the Lord. Ok, let me tell you something. We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me. Live long and prosper |
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on: February 18, 2016, 02:02:48 PM
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And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'
God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because worst things might occur. . Explain the quote. Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks. Read the rest of the Bible. Please. He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies. It's so interesting how you can sometimes interpret things and other times you have to take them literally. |
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Other / Politics & Society / Re: Homosexuality is caused by being molested
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on: February 18, 2016, 01:55:17 PM
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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?
It's about free speech. If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage. Nobody's safe. So they can arrest you for saying your mind? Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind? I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong. In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity". Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe. Personally I wouldn't care what people say about gays, but the fact that I'm not allowed to say my opinion, that's not right at all. |
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