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From what I've seen investments are better, but at the same time they are riskier and you have to be real smart about it. Both have their ups and downs.
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You should be smart and keep different assets in different place. Never keep everything in one place. Even if that place was secure for 100 years. You can never know what will happen.
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Well as much as you can, obviously. Is there ever too much money?
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The same question could be posed in reverse: why have cash instead of bitcoin? Why not?
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Don't get your hopes up. Bitcoin is something, banks are something else. Each has a purpose in its own place.
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Wait. If bitcoin is dead what am I trading now? Hmm. That's so weird. I was sure that it was still bitcoin.
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People have different religions and opinions and I respect that but at the same time everybody should be allowed to think and believe what they want. Ok - there is islam and people can and should practice it but not impose upon others. That also goes for christianity and everybody else.
Perhaps everyone should be allowed to believe what he/she wants. This is not the reality for anyone, however. Everyone is influenced by all kinds of things into believing something. Sometimes he is even influenced into wanting to believe the thing he is influenced to believe.  Exactly my point. That's why if people don't bother you, you should do the same. Oh stop bothering people with your flimsy sayings.  You're like a Jehova's witness, forcing your ideas upon people. Or maybe that's what you really are. The zealousness that you use is exactly like theirs. |
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Stating things that exist is not proof for God's existence. Get your head out of that bucket and look at the world the way it really is.
Stating scientific facts that prove God's existence, is definitely proof of God's existence. Dude, be reasonable. You haven't proved anything. Do so and not only I'll agree with you but I'll work along you. Until then try and be real. That's what I have been trying to tell you. I am not trying to prove anything. Why do you want me to start proving something? It isn't my place. My place is to show you the proof of science. Science proves God exists. Why do you keep on accusing me of proving or not proving something? I'm just the messenger. Ok then - bring out the math, physics, whatever science you want. Let's see it messenger man. |
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can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there? yes.
thats it. similar thing is with god.. i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...
Listen, neuroscientists are mapping how the human brain works as we speak. youtube Ray Kurzweil. We are getting very close to fully understand what exactly is happening to our brain when we think, talk, write posts on bitcointalk.org, memorize things etc. I bet religion is infecting the emotional part of your brain first, then it spreads to reasoning/logical part, essentially causing hallucinations, emotional short circuits etc. You are right, it is not fair to single out one particular religion. They are all bat shit crazy. I see no distinguishable difference between them. People who believe in this stuff should be hospitalized. They pose danger to themselves and others. You religiously believe this, then.  When someone says he/she doesn't believe something, our friend BADecker will quickly come and say he/she believes it. I don't even know how to respond to such contradictory logic. BADecker - there must be chaos in your mind, man. And there you have it. You don't know how to respond, just like you don't realize that there are many things that you believe, that are contrary to the things that you have convinced yourself that you believe. You know, it's not even funny anymore. I mean, at first it was amusing to see all the mess there was inside your head, but now you're just messing with people. You're either slow or just flipping people off for the fun of it. It's easy to understand why reality seems to hurt you. But isn't it time you grow up? I mean, man. What were we talking about? Wasn't it the proof that God exists? I have shown you the proof, and you can't even think your way through it to analyze it. Perhaps you should head back to school and get an education. Prove God exists using methods and experiments that can be repeated by anyone with the same result. Saying God exists because things around us exist and that's proof of His existence are just empty words. |
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Stating things that exist is not proof for God's existence. Get your head out of that bucket and look at the world the way it really is.
Stating scientific facts that prove God's existence, is definitely proof of God's existence. Dude, be reasonable. You haven't proved anything. Do so and not only I'll agree with you but I'll work along you. Until then try and be real. |
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According to Holly Bible Christians can not hate anyone..No they can look them like people whom they should help to find way to God and light
Depends on which part of the Bible. Leviticus is part of the Bible and it's all a question of killing murdering burning alive and shit like that. I'd say it's rather hainous part of the book xD What does violence have to do with hate? God ordered the work to be done, and the Israelites simply carried it out. Just because the Israelites worked hard at it doesn't mean they had any hate. Many people work hard at work and enjoy it. So it's not the israelites who hate people. It's God. |
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Exactly how it was before the internet. Ugly, sad and grey. The internet is a beautiful tool for learning and communication. That's how I imagine the library of Alexandria to have been.
Lol! Do we have the same internet? xD The internet is ful of everything, best and worst, but mostly useless crap and insignificant amount of true innovation, that it's be in communication or learning! But I love it. Probably because I'm part of this crap... If you look for crap on the internet that's what you'll find. If you look for knowledge you'll find knowledge. You're personally responsible for the way you use it. |
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Stating things that exist is not proof for God's existence. Get your head out of that bucket and look at the world the way it really is.
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People have different religions and opinions and I respect that but at the same time everybody should be allowed to think and believe what they want. Ok - there is islam and people can and should practice it but not impose upon others. That also goes for christianity and everybody else.
Perhaps everyone should be allowed to believe what he/she wants. This is not the reality for anyone, however. Everyone is influenced by all kinds of things into believing something. Sometimes he is even influenced into wanting to believe the thing he is influenced to believe. Exactly my point. That's why if people don't bother you, you should do the same. |
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Thank you for that, af_newbie. I'll forward this link to the necessary people when the need will arise.
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I also studied physics but I'm not a physician. If a study a certain field makes me only an informed person concerning that field. That's all.
You need to be a priest to study Theology: you cannot study by yourself. I accept that answer in the "violent discussion" we are having. Best regards. EDIT: if Theology can be studied without being a priest give proofs. Child, you do realize I'm not going to show you my diploma, but you can easily look online. And to be specific I'm talking here about orthodox theology. I'm sure that from here you can manage to find what you need by yourself. |
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After long and secular debates about atheism, the need for a separate topic about God's existence has arisen.
There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
Please share your argument in a logical manner and abstain from saying things like "I'm right because I'm right".
I know that this, in the end, is a philosophical discussion so only logical are welcome.
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Well, I should probably be thanking you for focusing on me rather than how science proves God exits. But what else can you do? since you can't refute the science. So, thanks for helping to validate the science by showing folks how you can't refute it. What else can I do? I can try to keep your wandering mind on topic. What proof is there that Atheists hate Religion? That is part of the point. Many atheists don't hate religion. These are the ones who barely consider their atheism. So you don't think that atheists in general hate religious people in general? Finally, something we can agree on. I might not agree with your method of discussion, but I agree with the characterisation you give here - most atheists I've met don't even think about gods. The atheists who hate religion are far more atheistic than the ones who barely consider atheism. Both of them have their religion.
I don't agree with your definition of religion (ie that having a religion just means spending time arguing about something -- which means, by the way, that for example that all lawyers follow law as a religion, all politicians have political action as a religion) but even by your definition if many atheists "barely consider their atheism" then how can it be a religion to them? Those of them who hate religion, are far more into the religion of atheism than those who don't. They are also far more into hating themselves.
I'm not sure how you could know that -- unless you have been an atheist? "Leave me alone," they say. "Let me squander the little bit of life I have, before I wind up destroying myself completely, just to get away from the religion that I am."
Has anyone actually said that? I'm fairly certain that you just made that up, and that no atheist ever said that to you. Well, thank you again, for helping to prove that God exists, by attempting to take the focus off the science that proves it. Hopefully more and more people will wake up to the fact that God does exist. God even appreciates you for the help you are giving in this area. Any chance you'll respond to any of my questions any time soon? Do you have no answer for logical objections? I'm sure I have responded one way or another to any question you might be asking. This being said, thanks again for showing that you don't have any science that refutes the scientifically proven fact that God exists... AND for helping me to expand the knowledge of this by not expressing any refutation that you might have. Dude - there isn't any evidence that God doesn't exist. But also there isn't any evidence that He does exist. So we'll each pick the option that makes more sense for each of us. Of course, logic and science point us towards the second option, but if you choose the first one that's ok also. Just keep it to yourself. We can still go out and have a beer together. |
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You asked if I would start a war against religion because you mentioned faith. I wrote I have no problem with faith, only with your characterisation of science. Now you write "Of course you have a problem: you have no Faith!". This is meaningless, unless you think that science == faith, which as I explained to you before is a contradiction in terms.
Now it is you who is talking without thinking. Science DOES equal faith in all sorts of ways. What scientist would look for some aspect of science if he didn't have faith that it could be found? Who would ever formulate scientific theories if he didn't have faith that they might be able to be proven? or if he didn't have faith that his theories would help him prove other things in science? or if he didn't have faith that his peer review would earn him status or money somehow? Most of science absolutely does equal faith. No. I've never met a scientist arrogant enough to *have faith* they're right. There will be undoubtedly be some, but the ones i know *hope* they're right. If they had faith they were right, they wouldn't bother with experiments since that would be a waste of time. Replace "faith" with "hope" in your statement above and you'll be nearer the mark. Faith is when your mind doesn't know but your heart tells you so. Scientists don't hink with their heart but with their brain. So they can't have faith. That would be a nonsense. Of course they sometimes have faith in their theories and that's why they do test it. But they just have faith in their vision of the world, then they test, and they know if they're wrong or right. But we don't have faith in gravity BADecker xD Scientists are not robots. They have lots of faith. Ask their husbands and wives. Many of them will tell you truthfully that their spouse is faithful - full of faith. Faith in gravity is built-in. It is beyond hope. Why do we have faith in gravity? Because we don't really know for a fact that it will keep on working for us. The example and experience is that it has in the past. But we still don't know about the future, even though we are comfortable in thinking we do. There is no need for faith in gravity - if we're to use your example. There is no example is the history of human kind when gravity has failed a single human being. Except in space or in controlled experiments. I KNOW for a FACT that if I'll jump I'll come back down. And we can all gather and make the experiment or bet or whatever you want and you'll see that every time I'll jump I'll come back on the ground again. No faith needed. If it doesn't happen you can tell me wrong as much as you want. But I wouldn't get my hopes too high if I were you. |
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Math is the beginning into faulty thinking. The deeper one goes into math, the harder it is to use it, and the easier it is to show its inherent mistakes. Even with computers it ultimately fails.
You are worshiping a false god in math.
There is no God in math, " Vires in numeris" means " Truth in Numbers" Truth and God are 2 different things as Science and knowledge and as the Bible (KJV) should have separated. Best regards. Perfect! The answer is here! You refute Science and maths. I don't think it's necessary to go further with you on this debate. You clearly live in a different world. When science uses math, it uses virtual reality. Math doesn't work in reality... at least not the standard math that we have. The thing that happens is, scientists figure things out in the virtual reality, and apply them without the virtual reality to real life. Some of them work. As the math gets more complex, less of it works in reality. However, it isn't only the scientists that do this. Kids in school adapt to the Internet so extremely well, because subconsciously they have recognized that the Internet is great virtual reality, just like the math that they have been learning. Their subconscious applies the virtual reality of math to the virtual reality of the Internet, and they thrive on it. Women are practical. Often women don't understand math very well. Check the statistics. Girls in school generally have a much harder time understanding math. It's because they are way more practical with reality. They don't understand the virtual reality that math is because of how practical they are. Math doesn't work? I'd like to see you when your employer tells you that math doesn't work in real life so you only get half a paycheck. Also - you just called women stupid. Go tell your mom/gf/wife: "you don't understand much, but that's ok, because you're practiacl and can cook and clean, and that's enough for me, so it should be enough for you too". |
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