"Nifty Electronic Money" is a definite no from me. Sounds too flippant and if anything, will scare off anyone who wants to use it as a serious platform. I actually think New Economy Movement suffices, until someone thinks of better. To be honest though, i don't think it's open for change. I genuinely don't see anything wrong with New Economy Movement.

Completely agree here. Transparency is important and provided reasons are stated in the OP, i'm sure people (with a brain and no agenda) will understand.

Done.

There really is no need to respond to this individual. He isn't fooling anyone - in fact, this is getting quite funny.


This seriously made me laugh.


In all seriousness though, i think people are choosing not to ignore this troll because in truth, until we get some intervention from the devs, and some more talk on NEM, people are doing it for their own amusement. One thing is for sure though - CfA, you're not an effective troll at all and anyone with two braincells can see right through you.

Yes, i agree. Nonetheless i'm just stating what i think the consequences could be. Seeing as the previous thread was self-moderated (and not censored, to the dismay of trolls) doing so again is hardly against NEM's interests.

I merely state what i do purely so any spectators know we've weighed up the outcomes. As i've already stated i'm not fussed what way we go given the current circumstances. All we need to ensure is, if it is self-moderated, it's done so with freedom of speech in mind. It was accomplished before, it can be done again. Ideally, we wouldn't moderate the topic - of which i'd be very content with - but we're not being given much options.

I genuinely believe support for a self-moderated topic is a farce. From what i can see, there's a number of users in this thread that use similar mannerisms and sentence structure to our beloved Come-From-Above; implying that, there's a good chance he's using multiple accounts to peddle an agenda.

From what i can gather, i think support for a self-moderated topic -- if carried through -- will just simply be used as ammunition for the troll(s) and their accounts once it's done; hence why the idea is supported.


The best course of action, is, again, stop acknowledging suspicious users. Don't quote them, don't reply to them, dont give them the spotlight they so desperately seek. Only constructive posts, and legitimate idea's and criticisms should be responded to. For the record though, I am neither for or against a self-moderated topic. What i am for is a bit of community cohesion to see through the blatent trolls. This subject has already been given more attention then it deserves.

An alternative that i can think of is moving all discussion to the main NEM forums, if people are that concerned.

Don't you mean POI?  (proof of importance/interest?) not POS?

yup. i got into crypto's late last year, but from my analysis i deemed bitcoin and PoW a bigger risk than anything else. Proof of Stake was a nice alternative but Nxt's launch and ipo was less than ideal. pos also poses its own problems, namely that of whales and hording - which in the end, leads to centralization, poor adoption, and manipulation.

this is why NEM intrigues me the most - the proof of importance (that i prefer to call proof of interest) if, comes to fruitition, will really cause a stir the crypto world needs. we need to encourage spending, not hording; POI is (so far) the best bet for this. this really CANNOT be understated and for the sake of NEMs longevity it would be good if we think of ways to enhance the POI method to better accomplish this. if POI makes it easier for the end user to use, services and retailers will naturally crop up.

The money needs to keep flowing and moving to make a currency viable. FIAT accomplishes it by printing that leads to inflation/deflation with all the associated dire risks.

I think it's a fair assumption that Come-From-Above's sockpuppet accounts are Ikaros and Ravenna thus far. It's almost cute watching him try and seeing his posts change like some schizophrenic who's forgotten his meds.

I also believe he's using multiple accounts, and replying to them in this very thread. Remember everyone; take a pinch of salt with anything thats said from newbie accounts. They very well could be sockpuppets.

In a nutshell, this is you.

Exactly. Everything i've seen of CfA fits this profile perfectly. His agenda is available for all to see in a quick glance of his post history.

I agree. I think it's massively important that we don't deviate from the original plan. Any unnecessary changes is going to backlash i feel.

If this means things take more time, then this is how it should be.

How cryptic, how mysterious. You're so alluring, like a siren in this ocean of crypto's. You make my peepee hard.

From what i've seen of you thus far, you're a troll, and every successful coin thread has one. Every. Single. One. (Ironically, UP became one for Simcoin - his downfall was to resort to such pettiness) And like any trolls, they eventually get bored once their starved of attention. I'm not going to put you ignore, or block you, or any other such nonesense, but i am going to skip through anything i see from you in the future, as your posts lost credibility. Giving you attention you don't deserve is unproductive for this project. I'd suggest everyone else realize this.

You're kidding right?

I see NEMstake has made a recovery from the slight dip it saw during the fiasco - whether or not UP actions caused that remains to be known and likely always will.

Although i respect UP, I do believe what he did was fundamentally wrong in light of the very principles of this coin. There's really no need to delve into this any further as we're already seeing alot of effort from the core devs to continue.

It also appears your opinions change with wind. Only a few hours ago you seemed to despise UP and implied this coin was a failure. Now your tone is completely different. Your posts are clearly untrustworthy and hide an agenda - because they're far too fickle.

People also need to remember that it isn't just the IPO method that makes this coin - Proof of Importance is by far, one of the most promising features we've yet to see in cryptocurrency. Nevermind the other features this coin will potentially have. People invested in a concept, with any investment comes risk, and with the current value of NEMStake, already peoples investment has paid for itself. Those who cash out were obviously in it for their own greed.

It staggers me that so many people post FUD to undermine the success this coin already has, likely for their own benefit.

I mirror this sentiment.

It's good to see this result.

Ultimately, as one of a thousand "veteran" stakeholders, despite what may have happend with UP, the distribution of NEM is still by far one of the best i've seen.

I'm glad to see things delt with accordingly, and a desire to press forward to what otherwise is, and will be, an extremely worthwhile project.

Although I do feel UP made a mistake, and shouldn't have done what he did, handling it in the manner which it was was the best course of action and not only am i thankful for that, i'm also thankful for his initial contribution into the project. Hopefully this is a lesson learned for alot of people and I'm eager to see how this project progresses further.

Absolutely spot on.

Of course it is. I just explained why.

It's too early, people can't make an informed decision.


If this vote was to have any merits, it would also provided a choice of "Wait until further developments or a statement is released".

Whats more important is a close result. Because of how hasty this vote has been called, people are unable to make a rational, prudent vote. This vote is called far too early.

If given the option in the vote, most would've chosen to wait and see how things unfolded, and if we could get an official statement from UP. This is taking advantage of hype, all of which is not needed.