Lmao - since when did mobs cast votes? (especially ones that are clearly in favor of the "victim")

Kool, seriously, whats your agenda? (Divide and conquer, perhaps? ) I for one think this entire thing is completely unnecessary.

The only thing different about this coin is it was also IPO, otherwise it was nothing new at all. What did you people expect?

I really welcome this, although i do have one concern:

I introduced a Romanian friend to NXT who purchased (some) of my own stake (transferred to his own wallet) who later participated into NEM after i had got on board (both of our stakes have been authenticated)

On the surface, this would look like a sockpuppet account but it's really quite the contrary in reality; he's a real individual, of which i know if needed, could vouch for me here, or, if at UP's request, in other ways if necessary.

The concern i have is how do we ensure in circumstances like above, arn't wrongly accused?




Nailed it.

I do wonder if any effort is made to track down these conartists. I know it happend in NXT, it should happen in others too (In regards to Stackcoin).


Exo_Coin, i appreciate you making that post. I sincerely hope for everyones sake you do truely deliver to your word.

I agree that a timer would be an effective means of creating a "buzz", but it also imposes strict deadlines that may or may not be stuck to. Given the nature of what is being accomplished, anything can push that deadline out further.


I think it's better to beat the "Timer" than it is to be late, especially if such a timer did catch the interest of the public eye. So a generous amount of time on the clock is really the best option - if the idea is taken seriously.

Hardly the right thread for this. The NEM community has already expressed a 50/50 stance on the individuals removal. This does not show a mob mentality and if anything, a very diplomatic stance towards the situation.

With this in mind, the person in question made posts with strong implications they wish to have no part in it. Sure, perhaps UP acted a bit rash, but the offer to reinstate his stake is there, so stop making an issue where there is none; as long as the offer still stands for him to reclaim the stake, this argument is absolutely feeble. The choice is his if he'd rather continue his tirade or actually reclaim his stake.


Back on the subject thread, i'm disappointed to still not see any response from any of the eXo team, and honestly i lose faith with each passing hour as long as nothing is heard. The only consolation is the fact the BTC/LTC funds still remain in the original fundraising accounts.

Not the greatest comparison i've ever seen. Especially as people generally flee their countries if they dislike their government enough, which ironically is something we dont see from you regarding NEM.

Instead of taking peoples eyes off the ball by focusing on the fact that you've had your stake removed, why not give Utopian and the NEM community the answer they're looking for; do you want it back, or not? The offer has been made.


I again do not expect a straight answer.


I also wouldn't call whats taking place "Mob mentality" The vote clearly speaks for itself. It's literally almost a 50/50 stance (and regardless of the vote here, i don't believe it'll have any bearing on a future outcome - it's just reflective of the overall stance of the NEM community) In fact, with this in mind it clearly demonstrates how diplomatic the community is trying to be.

I personally don't wish to see your stake removed unless you request it, but nonetheless, i can understand the confusion behind it as every post you made implied (quite strongly) you wished to have no part in NEM.




I'm sorry, but as long as the offer to reinstate his stake is still there, this argument is completely redundant; by continually pressing this issue while a solution is still there (Either reclaim the stake or not) then all you're serving to do is just further run down the coin and it's community, which is precisely the reason why we are here in the first place.

Frankly, i think all of this is unnecessary.

Agreed. Something that I deem more important than a solid launch is resilience. Without that, a coin will never last. NEM most certainly had the former and i have no reason to think it will not have the latter, either.




I think this is a bit of a stretch. Although he's done rather well to make things as clear as possible, there's still far too many unanswered questions and honestly, i was expecting more activity from the Exo team to quell any legitimate concerns.

For example, the whole process of ensuring Stake 1 holders get more for their BTC over Stake 2. This process hasn't been made completely clear.

The fact that Exo_Coin has been a bit quiet of late also troubles me a little. But i guess time will tell.

This is why i only invested 0.1 BTC. Frankly any more does not justify the risk.

Sent an investment of 0.1099 BTC

TXID:

5a3091a36ac9922824c1284654cff43a7fd8b3a8cc7ab02e71319440622bb54b



I will also PM Exo_coin as per the instructions on the OP. I would appreciate some response confirming my stake asap.

What utter tripe. Sorry, but this really is ridiculous.

You know when someone can't provide a fair opposing argument when they start using such gross exaggerations.


Claiming a stake in many respects is an implied agreement you wish to contribute to the success of that coin. This is something i'm not seeing from Kool at all. Yes, by all means, express your concerns, but at least offer to the table a means of solution - this is not the case with Kool. I see plenty of posts running NEM down and seldom if any real suggestions to offer solutions.

I think regardless of the vote here, Kool should be asked if he wishes to have his stake reinstated. Of which i expect him to not answer just to give him further justification for his smear campaign - all of this has already happend.

Thing is, he's not even answering that question. Although i do agree with everything that you say.


But yes, certainly i'd much rather see us move on from this and pay him as little mind as possible. If he has valid contributions, i'd be all ears, otherwise he can continue his campaign of negativity without any further acknowledgement from me.

Considering his conduct, I'm pretty certain his intent is not to be an active participant in NEM, instead the only activity he continually produces is means of smearing NEM.

As much as i agree with people that a person shouldn't be removed for their beliefs, if he had any faith in NEM, he would be proposing idea's to resolve his concerns, or at least cooperating with people to do such.

Instead, he makes posts like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446175.msg5240892#msg5240892

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448643.msg5246728

I acknowledge in many scenario's he has valid concerns, but the way in which he goes about it is just wrong from my perspective. He's not being cooperative at all, just confrontational at every turn. He knew what he was getting into when he claimed his stake (For free, i might add) yet still seems content to behave in the way in which he does. The process has been made very transparent by UP and i genuinely don't see what Kool is trying to accomplish.

From what I understand, the offer to reinstate his stake is there, and instead of giving a clear answer of "Yes or no" he is now instead kicking up a storm about being removed in the first place. I don't like his conduct whatsoever and I can only imagine (Being a stakeholder in NXT) he deems NEM a threat and wishes to see it's demise.


I too own stake in NXT, and i believe any success for one is success for the other.

2Kool4Skewl

Were three consecutive posts necessary? really?

Although I think some of the things you say are legitimate criticisms (I emphasize SOME). You seldom seem to be providing any real solutions or idea's - just content to shoot down NEM with every post that you make. Utopian has expressed repeatedly people can leave voluntarily, the choice is there. Yet you continually post negatively about NEM implying you're not interested or operating on an agenda.

Just applied for the Give-Away.

I intend to be a early-bird investor as soon as my BTC funds clear the exchanges. Sadly they're manually authorised so i gotta wait till thats due. If i don't catch the early-bird, then so be it; i'll settle with Group/Stage 2 instead.

I'll drop another message by once I make the transaction. Hopefully within the next 24 hours.

So. So much of this.

Considering the interest in this coin and large number of stakeholders, dismissing this coin as a failure (before it's even released, no less) is really quite idiotic. The guy is a troll.

Let him carry on making a fool of himself, especially as it's already out in the open he has a stake in the coin.



Pretty much this. If NEM succeeds, it will drive interest for NXT and Vice Versa. Shooting NEM down is effectively shooting himself in the foot. He's either daft or has an agenda.

Is it ok if i can send BTC from an exchange? (Virwox)

I ask because for some reason my BTC wallet won't download the chain regardless what i do.

Dogecoin has absolutely no merits at all, and the only reason it's got such high value is because the media set the ball rolling, sparking interest and perpetuating it. Multipools keep it afloat but i guarantee, once the next crapcoin comes along, Doge will flatline.

Never underestimate the power of mainstream media. With a few well placed articles, i could pretty much make people believe anything.

I'm interested too.

Would appreciate being added to the list.