If so (Bitcoin halving being beneficial), will slashing the reward more drastically, or just more frequent halving be even more beneficial, up to a point of a zeroed reward?
imho: 25btc/block forever is too much. the monero way: reduce until 0.3/xmr block seems very good to me. i dont think it doesnt really matter how fast it gets there. i am more thinking longterm 10yrs+ So you just don't know (whether it is actually beneficial), right? no. thats why i said imho. |
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Mining is what makes Bitcoin tick. Today miners get 25 BTC per block mined. I don't think they have very high profit margins since competition is tough. Definitely not what it was at the time of the previous halving in 2012. All of a sudden (just a phrase), they begin to earn twice as less. Will this be beneficial to the whole Bitcoin ecosystem?
miners cant decide that. anybody running a bitcoin client needs to switch. even if some miners fork to a non halving bitcoin they would just have created an altcoin which has no right to call itself bitcoin anymore. the ecosystem has nothing to do with it. Could you (or anyone, for that matter) give a simple answer, yes or no? i think yes. thats why i like an altcoin (monero). If so (Bitcoin halving being beneficial), will slashing the reward more drastically, or just more frequent halving be even more beneficial, up to a point of a zeroed reward? imho: 25btc/block forever is too much. the monero way: reduce until 0.3/xmr block seems very good to me. i dont think it doesnt really matter how fast it gets there. i am more thinking longterm 10yrs+ |
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Mining is what makes Bitcoin tick. Today miners get 25 BTC per block mined. I don't think they have very high profit margins since competition is tough. Definitely not what it was at the time of the previous halving in 2012. All of a sudden (just a phrase), they begin to earn twice as less. Will this be beneficial to the whole Bitcoin ecosystem?
miners cant decide that. anybody running a bitcoin client needs to switch. even if some miners fork to a non halving bitcoin they would just have created an altcoin which has no right to call itself bitcoin anymore. the ecosystem has nothing to do with it. Could you (or anyone, for that matter) give a simple answer, yes or no? i think yes. thats why i like an altcoin (monero). |
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wont happen. every miner, every user and every shop would need to upgrade if only two people run their old client bitcoin will continue to exist as planned. its called "social contract". and i know for sure there are more than two people who want to have the halving. so bitcoin will continue as is  Okay, it seems that I have to clarify my point. I don't say that Bitcoin halving should or will be canceled for no reason at all. Everything that I say here revolves about trade-offs. That is, I assume that the coming halving could potentially wreak havoc on the Bitcoin infrastructure. It may appear as not a big deal (in this aspect), but it may be the last straw to break the camel's back, as it were... I call it an escalating failure well it may fail (bitcoin is still an experiment), but that doesnt change the fact that, what we call bitcoin today, will have its halving Mining is what makes Bitcoin tick. Today miners get 25 BTC per block mined. I don't think they have very high profit margins since competition is tough. Definitely not what it was at the time of the previous halving in 2012. All of a sudden (just a phrase), they begin to earn twice as less. Will this be beneficial to the whole Bitcoin ecosystem? miners cant decide that. anybody running a bitcoin client needs to switch. even if some miners fork to a non halving bitcoin they would just have created an altcoin which has no right to call itself bitcoin anymore. the ecosystem has nothing to do with it. edit: if you look at my sig you see i like an altcoin which has a tail reward. this means the block reward will not reduce after it reached 0.3xmr/blocl. i see your point that sth like this is needed. but with bitcoin its impossible. the halving is part of the definition of bitcoin itself |
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Try to contact developers of Bitcoin forum and tell them what you want.. I think they will help you...
please dont... theymos is the only one who can and might do it. |
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wont happen. every miner, every user and every shop would need to upgrade if only two people run their old client bitcoin will continue to exist as planned. its called "social contract". and i know for sure there are more than two people who want to have the halving. so bitcoin will continue as is Okay, it seems that I have to clarify my point. I don't say that Bitcoin halving should or will be canceled for no reason at all. Everything that I say here revolves about trade-offs. That is, I assume that the coming halving could potentially wreak havoc on the Bitcoin infrastructure. It may appear as not a big deal (in this aspect), but it may be the last straw to break the camel's back, as it were... I call it an escalating failure well it may fail (bitcoin is still an experiment), but that doesnt change the fact that, what we call bitcoin today, will have its halving (i highly doubt that it will fail though) |
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wont happen. every miner, every user and every shop would need to upgrade if only two people run their old client bitcoin will continue to exist as planned. its called "social contract". and i know for sure there are more than two people who want to have the halving. so bitcoin will continue as is |
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Moderators do not remove feedback.
In your case, all your feedback is untrusted, which means you don't show negative trust.
In short, nothing you can do, so don't worry about it.
Okay thanks for your explaining. I will not wory anymore about any untrusted feedback from any scammer. Why don't you have the power/access to do that? It is obvious that is a scammer that gave me neg trust. you may give him a negative rating in return for yours, explaining why he is wrong (as reference you may link to this thread). but as Vod said: you shouldnt worry about it. negative rates (esp from from untrusted members) are not important. anybody should read through the trust ratings anyway |
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The last three posts I have done, have been deleted.
I don't know by who, or why, but all my recents posts have gone away.
It says I have only 2 posts, when in reality, I have made maybe 5 topics, that go away after 10min plus!
I am sick of having my words vanish!
Please help.
Send via message the problem, as this will die somehow as well.
molotov
you get a pm stating that your posts have been deleted. but it doesnt contain a reason. usually its spamming. can you link the thread and post an example post here? edit: one word replaced (bolded) edit: please move this to META!!!! |
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Tomatocage was also suspected of self-escrowing. but apparently it's a misunderstanding.
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Its not! that's it. I doubt you missed redsn0w and marcotherminer's mini drama.
Can you please elaborate? I missed it! proof? does that question directed to MZ or me? sorry i am confused... i could swear i have read that Muhammed Zakir accused TomateCage of self escrowing... it must have been too late for me :/ again...sorry |
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Good to see that I'm not alone calling out this MONERO mob for their criminal activities.
You seem to be another sockpuppet of that gang.
nope Smooth committed like 8 changes on GitHub, all one liners.
Thats about it concerning being a "dev".
i dont care and that has nothing to do with this thread The code in question is the only block you could fing, eh? Its just one piece of about 500.000 lines rewritten.
iCEBREAKER posted more... but it is not important how much it is And how you come to the conclusion its been auto reformatted?
it looks like. if he really rewrote it himself he would use other variable names and another order.
Have you ever written a single line of code doing something you haven't copied and pasted in your life?
yes Monero on the opposite is copied and pasted completely, only the coin parameters where changed.
no this thread is not about monero. |
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What argument do you need to fact that in 2 sentences you made 2 mistakes with dev name.
Yet you have something important to say about his work.
again i dont say anything about his work. i just want him to honor the license as its is obvious he copied parts of his product (which btw is not bad - anyone does that - even big companies and closed source products) btw thanks for bumping this thread to raise awareness of his behavior... |
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And to all that john-connor could be Adam Back, or even Satoshi Nakamoto so again, prove it, bring it to court or STFU.
even if john-conor would be satoshi he would need to place that license as others have contributed code to bitcoin too. but its unlikely as john-conner obviosly prefers another code-style than bitcoin (thats why he auto-refactored that whole thing) ROFL to your coding skills. It seems that you guys from XMR can only copy/paste because when you need to write something on your own you cant even write the dev name correctly. 2 mistakes in 2 sentences. LOL ROFL... no arguments left  |
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And to all that john-connor could be Adam Back, or even Satoshi Nakamoto so again, prove it, bring it to court or STFU.
even if john-conor would be satoshi he would need to place that license as others have contributed code to bitcoin too. but its unlikely as john-conner obviosly prefers another code-style than bitcoin (thats why he auto-refactored that whole thing) Auto-refactor? You obviously never looked at what the man is capable of in terms of coding, go look it up. i didnt say anything about his coding skills... but any good coder uses auto refactoring tools this days (otherwise he would waste too much time: and i wouldnt call someone who wastes time a good coder) And how do you call people who can't code a gui for a crypto-currency? focused on important stuff and not a get rich quick scheme.. but if you want to discuss monero: please open a new thread. this thread is about stealing code yes it is stealing: some people demand payment for their code others just want to see their name on products using some of their work (thats the spirit of OSS licenses) |
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And to all that john-connor could be Adam Back, or even Satoshi Nakamoto so again, prove it, bring it to court or STFU.
even if john-conor would be satoshi he would need to place that license as others have contributed code to bitcoin too. but its unlikely as john-conner obviosly prefers another code-style than bitcoin (thats why he auto-refactored that whole thing) Auto-refactor? You obviously never looked at what the man is capable of in terms of coding, go look it up. i didnt say anything about his coding skills... but any good coder uses auto refactoring tools this days (otherwise he would waste too much time: and i wouldnt call someone who wastes time a good coder) |
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It seems that all those guys from XMR have excellent copy/paste skills almost identical to their famous dev smooth... or maybe they are all just smooth alter ego accounts.
nothing wrong with copy-paste as long as you honor the original license |
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And to all that john-connor could be Adam Back, or even Satoshi Nakamoto so again, prove it, bring it to court or STFU.
even if john-conor would be satoshi he would need to place that license as others have contributed code to bitcoin too. but its unlikely as john-conner obviosly prefers another code-style than bitcoin (thats why he auto-refactored that whole thing) |
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main problem: people dont understand the vision of that company.
thats right; IMHO their website lacks information... |
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That comes with European shops doing business through a US based company.
my only argument was that i think crypto has a big advantage over paypal (maybe excpect for us-shops). they can follow their own law and dont have to worry about us-law. but paypal is everywhere: a shop which doesnt use it has a disadvantage against its competition: which is the real problem. |
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