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3901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
Where is realroach? Did he died Roll Eyes
Crying wolf, are you?

Just wait for the next significant dip.
3902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 11:55:27 PM
Hm, 12k look entirely possible within a few hours.
3903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 04, 2018, 04:59:43 PM
Sure, we each have our own particular (or should I say peculiar) strategy involving (as it were) the laddering of buys and sells according to our own analysis of the risk/reward of said strategy at any given time. And sure, assuming a more Up than DOWN trend continues this should leave each of us with more bitcoins going down, and more dollars going uppy....


the STYLE is getting closer, but you need to flesh it out more and reiterate your points

Yeah, the substance (length) just isn't there yet.

And by the way - it may be obvious but - for authenticity, no copy and paste is allowed. You know, the human detail bit.
3904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2018, 03:18:47 AM
Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show)
I realized I already had it. I got it a long time ago after reading good things about it on Reddit, but I never got around to actually read it. I think it'll be the next SF book I read.

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or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002).
This might be a bit over the top for me. When plots in fiction get to the point of having so much cutting edge science as a founding element, I'd rather read an actual essay if I'm interested. With a work of fiction, you never know the boundary between genuine and made up unless you're familiar with the territory. I might give it a tentative skim.
3905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2018, 12:26:46 AM
Tera, you sound like Rosewater at his finest.

Rosewater, you don't sound like yourself.
3906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2018, 12:14:15 AM
Who are Vasya, Mavrod and Sergei?
slight glitch in translation. Sergei Mavrodi is one person, a nasty scammer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi
Vasya is too generic for me. Vasily someone. anyone?

https://vasya.net
Maybe?

Edit: I also basically have no clue
I think it's the same guy I pointed to. It must be him.
3907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2018, 12:07:33 AM
Who are Vasya, Mavrod and Sergei?
Mavrod and Sergey might be one and the same - Sergey Mavrodi.
As for Vasya, it could be https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/profile/3836-vasya/ - who started a new blockchain, or ICO or something.  I basically have no clue.  Grin

EDIT - Last of the V8s beat me to it!
3908  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 11:55:51 PM
The lastest from Masterluc:

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Have thrown the schedule. I completely agree. Moreover, I have been talking about this since the fall: 20,000-consolidation-100,000

The truth here is to use the function y = √x instead of trend lines this is certainly know-how. Thanks, masturbate. But this is very correct, because it is this function that describes the emission of bitcoin.



What's even funner about this is it is him in agreement with "Parabolic Trav".

Russians have a great sense of irony and self relativating sarc.

What I see is a really fucking BIG ASS range between the UP possibility and the DOWN possibility, which makes almost NO short term price predicting going on in the chart because almost any short term price movement could show that the chart was right.   It is the nature of relying on some of this kind of charting for short term price movements - whether on the bull side or the bear side.

Well, masterluc was never one for short term predictions! He's praising the idea of square root curves rather than straight line segments for trendlines ("you gave me a hard-on," he says), and I think he's simply reasserting his own predictions from Autumn 2017 - and earlier: he added a few words "from May, even".

I find one of his recent posts has an interesting anti-altcoin twist.

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I heard a ringing, but where was it from? From the 13th minute.

I will not talk about politics and I advise you not to. Just dropped the link, and then the classic of the genre is the reasoning (at first glance) of an erudite person about the hype of Bitcoin.

A little less than all the speakers from the TV and YouTube talk about this now. And speculators in general poher, they do not argue at all, they trade three letters acronyms and beautiful logo, totally mindless of what is behind it. There's a full "pump" and "dump" in their heads, let them be rewarded and sit with their naked ass.

The author is right only in the area which he really understands: Bitcoin helps to adapt from the very top. Without this help, everything would be much more complicated, but nevertheless it would be.

Bitcoin differs significantly from Vasya's, Mavrod's and Vitalik Buterin's own currencies (God forgive me). Vasya, Sergey and Vitalik do whatever crosses their minds with their currencies, while Bitcoin works according to its specification (Whitepaper), published in 2009. You can read the specification, start using Bitcoin and expect that the currency will work according to the specification and fuck all. That's why Bitcoin is respected.

Further, it is quite clear who controls bitcoin: the consensus of the miners, but in connection with the recent events (UASF), do not underestimate the full nodes. And one more thing. Bitmain has more than half network capacity. But they, while having the opportunity, do not harm the network even in favor of their shitfork. But it is written in the Whitepaper! It turns out that bitcoin controls its own specification.

And it is quite clear who issues Bitcoins. It is not clear who is issuing XRP, ETH and other kinds of shit. Absolutely not clear. Here (translator note: in Bitcoin) it is.

Bitcoin can be hacked. To do this, you need to run half the hashrate. Now, this will require the work of an entire nuclear power plant. And this is not cheap. But having such power - it will be much, much more profitable to play with it according to the rules of the specification, rather than harm. This is what Bitmain is doing right now. That's why personally I do not think it's dumb to invest money in bitcoin. I know its degree of protection and I am calm.

Maybe I'll write more.
3909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 02:09:47 AM
No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000.

It's important to make each minute count.

I agree with the second part, not necessarily with the first.

there was no crypto before Satoshi
there was no www before early nineties
there was no PCs just 43 years ago

Check out Altered Carbon (read the book before watching the show) or even more original Schild's Ladder (both published in 2002). Can you transfer your mental state to a different substrate? A fascinating topic.
The topic is fascinating indeed. Some gentlemen in this forum are a valuable source of enriching reads, fiction or essay.

Not sure if the transfer of a human mental state to a different substrate is even possible in principle. I guess in principle it is, if we keep a reductionist stance. But apart from the feasibility during our own lifetime, which already seems dubious to put it mildly, I think we are far from understanding the relationship between such mental states and our conscience.

Is consciousness an emerging quality? Does it have to happen once a system reaches a certain threshold of complexity? How, where is it felt? Where is the qualitative content of "blue" when I perceive blue? The retina, the cones, the nerve, the visual cortex, the other thingamabob and... and what? WHO will feel MY feelings? Me or the other substrate? What, I am the other substrate? No, I am I! Or am I?

This gets so close to metaphysics that I feel inadequate. Assuming I'll be dead, say, 200 years from now seems more reasonable and useful as an assumption, even if it comes across as bearish.

I'm no bear
I swear
I just don't know how far I'll fare.

In utter confusion, I'll check out your reading suggestions at the very least. Thanks.
3910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 01:54:46 AM
(snip)

So tell us darling - how do we know the bear market is over?

If we hit 20k it definitely is  Grin

Yeah that’s not particularly helpful for those who want to enter before then...

Can a series of movements be taken as a more reliable sign? As in "down to 9.8k-9.9k, up again to 12.2k and slowly climbing 100$ a day for a week"? Or some hydraulic quantitative measure (using Toxic's suggestive idea of pools that fill up)?

Maybe it's too simplistic to try and define a complex situation by a simple level to be reached, if the path is not also taken into account.
3911  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 02, 2018, 01:25:54 AM
A question running through my mind for the last few months:
For a society so used to a somewhat stable money value, what will be the effects of volatility in the masses?  What I mean is: Having something I believe is sovereign money, although volatile, continues to change my relationship to traditional paper money and bank digits (taking a back seat). When the masses come to accept this, I expect some drastic reality shift I can't quite imagine today.  Maybe it's not yet a question that can really be answered today. Maybe better,  How has your relationship to money changed since bitcoin?  Too serious?
  
My relationship with money has changed a lot. Almost every day, it occurs to me that so many worries and tears and toils are about - what - a btc cent? Ah, no, that's 1.5 cents. It doesn't change anything - all is relative, but in these occasions I feel like I'm living on another planet.

Perhaps more interestingly, now I see fiat money as funny color printed slips of paper that people give value to even if in some sense it isn't "real". It has no objectivity, for lack of a better word.

Or... no, wait a minute. We don't even get to see those slips of paper much anymore now, do we? More often that not, fiat money is a bunch of numbers in a giant database, much like bitcoin. Except, there are guys that have the master keys for some parts of this huge database, so they can edit, hack and play within a loose set of rules. No, I've got no such key unfortunately.

Also, bitcoin has taught me that my most precious resource is time. No matter how rich or lucky I am, my lifetime is capped. No soft or hard fork can inflate my healthy living years to 1000. It's important to make each minute count.

3912  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 10:01:31 PM
Music isn't a competition. It's all about cooperation.

Any real musician's ears are far more important than his hands.
This winter, every jam I've been to had me thinking exactly this.
Recently, I'm always feeling like I'm the only one who knows when to stay low or lay out completely (if applicable).
I wish I knew better jams around here. Maybe it's a seasonal thing.
3913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
As I observed most of the participants of this thread are giving merits to everyone, hoping I get also but I want to have smerit from my posts that having  good quality, because I want to rank up too in the future.
Not to just "everyone", though.

Just to those posts that are informative or useful or funny or have some other virtue.

I know it's unpleasant being a new user. I think you can't post links or images - or maybe you have some other serious limitation.

Here is your first merit, as a wish for more to come. Just keep posting good stuff, and they will come.

Welcome!
3914  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
wordy man can do the lyrics...

Best. Idea. Ever.



Helrow.

Does my avatar look lyricistical?   Roll Eyes
Not that much, but we were thinking of a LONG piece about ratts and laddered trades.
3915  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 08:07:34 PM
You guys are making me feel better about my...not...shredding ability.
I knew you played guitar as soon as I saw your defensive response "But sometimes it's hard to hear guitars over the drums!" (quoting from memory).  Tongue Tongue

Your shredding inability gives some hope to the fact you might still be a worthy human being after all.

 Wink
3916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 11:56:57 AM

I am into trains, this is why I am here  Cheesy

Is it just me, or this guy has been de-panted too??  Shocked  Huh
3917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 11:18:56 AM
reinforcements needed ... troops look unconvinced

If they're still wearing pants they're not fighting hard enough.
Everybody just stop mentioning the bloody PANTS, mkay?  Angry
3918  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 05:16:06 AM
make the guitar guys all play small Class A amps. Point them at their ears

That serves them right with their "I can't hear myself!" mantra 3:-)
3919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 05:09:49 AM
d_eddie: Solo gigs? No, these were full band gigs. Sometimes with too many guitar players.
Actually, I was thinking about moving around a Leslie and several keyboards - "occasionally a real Hammond." (!)  Cry
3920  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 01, 2018, 04:03:08 AM
Cheers, Jimbo! I've played about 450 (4-hour) gigs in the last 6 years, in addition to the 40-50 hours a week slave labor. I dearly love it, but I'm hauling a rebuilt 1962  Leslie cab (internally miced, line out to the PA), assorted keyboards (occasionally a real Hammond)

Alone? You've got my respect.
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