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3761  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 25, 2018, 01:59:58 AM
(snip)
There were too many of us predicting a regular weekend dump and then on Monday blah blah - starting from me! It's not like "I knew, y'all clueless morons!"

Now let's be paranoid for a while - as a thought exercise. If I were a nasty whale - bear or bull is no fit category for such beasts - I'd try to fool the average noncontrarian smart traders who think they've got it all figured out - yes, that's me. And I don't feel I am alone. How would I go about that? Just the opposite of what's predicted by the smart herd of cows. Let her go up, up. No weekend dump, see, nice eh? Moon coming, hehe. A slightly better than average Monday... and then a brutal dive on Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when a short hedge can have your back and piss off the whale.

Just thinkin' aloud. Food for debate.

It was only you and Hairy that I remember. Sorry but the short term trend has been up since the bottom and the higher low despite TERA's prediction-making traincrash. Maybe all that will come when the short and medium term trends collide, but maybe we also go on to challenge 11.4 a third time. First let's keep on busting up through local resistance levels until we see what fud if any they publish tomorrow night.

I'll be happy to be wrong for a modest 20%-25% fee. Good to hear solid positive thinking from a disenchanted old fox. The short term is a bull mammoth, indeed. I'm not really expecting a train crash. More like a short sequence (2-3?) of shaking gestures, not sure if crescendo or diminuendo (not constant intensity).  I think big players have more profit when they can inject turbulence and volatilty, and here is a rather juicy fruit, hanging low enough for a sufficiently tall individual or beach pyramid team.

That the long term is bullish I have little doubt. Crypto apocalypse not scanned in my radar. It's only that she can play games at times, especially when she hangs out with the wrong guys. A silly girl - not in her teens yet, you know.


Come on people stop diddling now let's get to the main event

Let's get it on to the main event indeed.
I love your taste.
3762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 25, 2018, 01:31:02 AM

See, jbreher? JJG is saying sorry in his slightly convoluted way,

Without either admitting or denying, I could not help but to find humor in that.


Now if you could just be nicer to each other, well that would be great.
(insert meme, I can't be bothered).

This "now kiss" meme is pretty decent:


Your meme in particular is just it. (Y) Thank you, JJ. Glad you liked it.
3763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 05:17:07 PM
Is the volume unusually low even for a weekend, or is it just me?

It's a death cross breath holding exercise.  A game of chicken.  Place your bets.  Or.... hold.

Just what I suspect/smell/am talking about (after taking it out of my ass, admittedly).

The situation appears static, calm before the storm. No more bets for me ATM, I'm set up until things move from here.

If I were a whale or a large shark, I'd pick exactly a moment like this to try and tweak the price.

Maybe I'm growing too paranoid? I feel pleasantly detached.

The next 48-72 hours may be critical even if we don't realize it yet.
3764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 04:54:55 PM
Is the volume unusually low even for a weekend, or is it just me?
3765  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 04:15:59 AM
JJG, why the personal attacks here?

I speculate that JJG imagines themself to be the mostest specialest importantest poster in all of Bitcoindom. Perhaps merely marking territory?

1stly) JJG is not plural.    Tongue

2ndly) ascribing a self aggrandizing self-assessment seems a form of irrelevant personal attack

3rdly) Marking territory, me?   I thought that I was merely engaging in a back and forth discussion... Surely, I will concede that my back and forth devolved in a bit more of a personality assessment of Rosewater than perhaps necessary, but Rosewater is also bringing some of this on  himself/herself, too.  Further, my assessment  in that earlier post, namely juxtaposing the ideas of toothless and spineless, was meant to communicate about internet sensitivities - all be it, concededly, my post did devolve in a kind of personal way, too.

TLDR:  Shit happens.

See, jbreher? JJG is saying sorry in his slightly convoluted way, but to Jimbo and Rosewater, who don't seem to be too hurt or bothered anyway - not to you. You just keep on blurting out that nutjob bigblocker nonsense, so he just can't help not giving a ratt's ass. Nor can I. It's just that I try to keep it civil. We need another 4MB right now as we need a hole in our head, to quote a dead legend.

Now if you could just be nicer to each other, well that would be great.
(insert meme, I can't be bothered).

Like, say, two esteemed colleagues in ladder practices - it wasn't named the 2J-ladder by chance.

Then, soon we could have a nice Easter barbecue (with veggie options and all), and the world would be a better place.

Go figure.
3766  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 03:20:46 AM
Yes, but why?
As an exercise to build a model that works, or more mundanely as an exercise to maximize utility in different scenarios - preparing for both UP or DOWN in times of turbulence, as someone would say in many more words.
3767  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 03:16:47 AM
Hello Bones, I'm sorry it went like that. Maybe it's not a thing for you, but it can work in the right circumstances.

Well, so much for trying to short BTC on margin as a hedge and setting a wimpy stop loss. Roll Eyes REKT! Should have known better. Not sure what strategy that I need to employ to try and preserve value in this downtrend market.  Cry
If hedge it must be, it's better to try harder, knowing we'll take a few blows. It's supposed to cost us more than a "wimpy" loss if it goes against us. It takes a cool mind to be able to swallow a 20%-25% loss - but such a loss only if she shows signs of mooning (>10k, say), not if she just gets back but still stays under the latest local max (8900 or so).

The hedge short should be sized (small) and placed (high) as to become an unbearable-cut-me-here liability only around 12k, ideally even higher, so it's advisable to build it from < 1 leverage, scalping (partially closing/longing/buying) on each dip and reshorting (selling) slightly more, higher.

In the process, I had to swallow some losses already to lighten my position. But now I feel safe enough. I'll dump it with a curse if it really becomes unbearable. Btc > 12k? I can live with that. Half-sour curse really. Get under 7.8k and I'll collect some. Not much. Just so I can add it back at a higher price, if (when?) it happens.

You might be a bit too emotional, or your play money might be too small to buy serious insurance. However, with some discipline I think the game can be can practiced (actually played!) as if the small play bankroll were a gazillion dollars. After all, the coin can be broken into very fine grained units.

Please tell me you aren't serious...


He probably wasn't - a half-assed hedge played as a noncommittal bear is no way to go about it.

On the other hand, I confess I'm being serious, Bob - in a cold, but secretly hopeful, would-be unemotional way. Scenarios, worst cases, etc., all worked out in advance is the way to go. Know how much you can lose and in which exact circumstances.

I hope you can feel my neutral, clinical tone, Bones. This post isn't meant to point you out or offend you. On the contrary, you have lots of experience I don't have and likely never will (mining etc), so I look at you with respect and think you might see my point. Honestly, I haven't actually had a very expensive lesson yet, but I did have quite a few smaller ones. That's how I learned the little gameplay I know (very little!). You just got a lesson too, at a reasonable price. You weren't actually rekt if you could decide to call quits (as you did), so you survived after all. Come on, whine less and suffer your blows like a fightin' man  Tongue
3768  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 03:09:30 AM
BTC $8700. Most extraordinary.

I think everyone has been expecting a big dump and the failure of that big dump is bullish. But the weekend isn’t over.  The next 28 hours are critical. 

Oh fuck.  Earwig’o. 

Toronto Stock Exchange to launch cryptocurrency exchange

https://www.ccn.com/toronto-stock-exchange-operator-to-launch-cryptocurrency-brokerage-platform/

Unexpected eh? FUD suppressed 100%, BCH hashrate menace vanished and all. I am also slightly surprised, but actually not that much. There were too many of us predicting a regular weekend dump and then on Monday blah blah - starting from me! It's not like "I knew, y'all clueless morons!"

Now let's be paranoid for a while - as a thought exercise. If I were a nasty whale - bear or bull is no fit category for such beasts - I'd try to fool the average noncontrarian smart traders who think they've got it all figured out - yes, that's me. And I don't feel I am alone. How would I go about that? Just the opposite of what's predicted by the smart herd of cows. Let her go up, up. No weekend dump, see, nice eh? Moon coming, hehe. A slightly better than average Monday... and then a brutal dive on Tuesday or Wednesday. That's when a short hedge can have your back and piss off the whale.

Just thinkin' aloud. Food for debate.
3769  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 24, 2018, 02:29:44 AM
RECENTLY

Growing you a Legendary V8  Wink
You can't seriously be a Hero down here


Well, Karartma1 put it even better!
3770  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 03:27:20 PM
(snip for space)

Nice. Looks like we're not going under $8000. Never ever.


Never say "never". And more than anything, don't say "never ever" unless you stake booze for all of us and, uhm, special treatment for the gents. You are welcome, no, even encouraged to hire professionals for the treatment. No amateurs.

(Sorry, your post really begged for this  Tongue Tongue Tongue)
3771  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 03:22:42 PM
It’s just another weekend.
I think the craziness will start in 3h... 2h... steadfast to our hats, gents.

Hats? Pants!
Don't you mention pants anymore, mkay???  Angry
3772  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 03:20:49 PM
I smell a bulltrap.
It ain't over until it's over.
3773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 02:10:47 PM
I'm not even in the money till 77ish

bids at 65ish
Much the same here. 78ish for me.
3774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 12:08:48 PM
RECENTLY

Meaning the quality of your scouting is improving steadily...  not to disregard previous contributions! Grin
3775  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 11:19:51 AM
Prime Minister of Malta welcomes Binance to Malta. Binance to have fiat links through Malta banks.  Bullish.

I salute you for the speed at which you find these things.
Indeed. Recently Hairy and V8 are being formidable scouts. Assets.  Smiley
3776  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 11:17:22 AM
It’s just another weekend.
I think the craziness will start in 3h... 2h... steadfast to our hats, gents.
3777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 03:00:04 AM

Is this the sauce?



Invalid Proxy sauce?  Huh
Sometimes this proxy thing gets on my tits.

EDIT - Now I see it! Yes Ivor, you nailed it. Shitty pic, BTW.  Tongue
3778  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 02:55:43 AM
You’re pulling that out of your ass.

Keep in mind we should bounce again by early next week.  It’s just the weekend is likely to be bad.  

I agree on both points.
FWIW, of course.

EDIT - by "a bit cheaper", I'm assfully prognosticating 7200-7400.
3779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 23, 2018, 02:39:59 AM
Here comes the panic selling from the Asians! Down down down!

I'm looking for those $7800 bitcoin  Cool
You might be able to get them a bit cheaper.

Source: Mammoths. Basically out of my ass, as Hairy would undoubtedly (and reasonably) say.
3780  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 22, 2018, 11:24:44 PM
Cmon Infofront you would be up in arms if Michelle Obama was acting SoS.  Or Malia if she was older.  So would I.  I would lose my nut if Hillary was President and appointed Chelsea as acting SoS.  You can’t tell me you believe this is ok.   Appointing close family members to the highest positions in the government is what third world dictators do.  

This sort of behavior should transcend party lines and we should all stand up against it, because it leads to tyranny.
The last line of decency is broken.
The US have been a "hereditary semiconstitutional republic" for a few decades anyway.
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