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4261  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 06:59:06 PM
I have always presumed jbreher is probably at least in the 4 digits BTC, maybe even in the (low) 5's.... Which is why I have always tried to understand why he decided to go the "wrong way" (Jihan/Ver) with so much at stake Smiley

I haven't worked out estimates of jbreher's (or anyone else's) stash, but the man strikes me as a rational thinker with much at stake since a long time. So I also tried to understand the reasons for his choice, and I asked him explicitly. Unfortunately, his explanations with regard to bigblockery/Verism etc. always came short. Disappointing underperformance for a good poster, accurate checker of facts, numerical literate such as he is.

What more reason do you need other than the fact that the current blocksize limitation is destroying the user experience thereby constraining adoption?
You seem to like BCH a lot, which IMO is not a rational strategy. This dissonance is unresolved as yet. A few reasons:

- BCH doesn't fix transaction malleabilty, ruling out L2 solutions which are the scaling solution in the medium (possibly long) term.

- BCH is controlled by a cartel. Their coders are clueless. The cartel is likely under the heavy hand of PBOC. They use guerrilla tactics (esp. transaction spam) to gain control.

- Big blocks will stifle adoption. Yes, that's the old "Raspberry pi in rural Afghanistan" argument. Even I, not in rural Afghanistan, would stop my own homespun node (not a pi though) if pressed by bandwidth and storage limits. "Be your own bank" implies the ability to run your own full verifying node.

- More adoption will come when we have a scalable system. Big blocks aren't scalable.

You know all these things already. You are too intelligent not to see the logical implications. So, my fuzzy inference is: you have other reasons. Not saying you are necessarily a paid shill, although it can't be ruled out. The "more reason" I was (and am) asking of you is an effective, documented rebuttal of my points or some subjective reason that goes beyond "I like big big big! Blocks big, me happy!" Something like "I was bitten by a small block when I was a child, try to understand my shock" would be a little better, but as you understand, still not quite satisfactory.
4262  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 06:37:42 PM
I can't get angry with old Jimbo.  He's had a tough life.

Tough life? Hardly.

Job-free since 1976, spent most of my adult life partying, debt-free for over 20 years, enjoying relatively good health because of stress avoidance, lots of good friends and thousands of acquaintances (many who are considerably younger than me), and now a nice fat retirement fund thanks to Bitcoin.

I can't complain.
Music also helps to keep us young. See the incredible age managed by famous conductors, often still in full activity.
4263  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 06:05:32 PM
I use Opera and I'm quite happy with it.

I haven't used Opera since the days of Win95 but I liked it back then.
I've kept on using the original Opera well into my Windows XP years. It used to be the best browser under all aspects. Fast, secure, customizable, dependable, obedient to the user (not to the website).
Unfortunately, they weren't able to maintain their Presto engine anymore, so they switched to Chromium, and now Opera is only a Chrome clone with a difference. I'm still using it on the sites where it works, but most of my browsing is on Firefox these days.

4264  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
I would also like to bump my questions posted some 10 hours ago or something.

If you GPU mine, does it matter if your computer is connected to your browser via wifi or cable?

And does anyone know anything about the OS called PureOS. Are there any issues with that OS that you know of?
I'd say a cable can't hurt. It really depends on the bandwidth required. Not sure GPU mining can actually manage without a solid ethernet cable. A full (non mining) bitcoin node would at least choke a bit on wifi.
For authoritative answers, you'd better wait for one of our miners to chime in.
4265  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 03:12:45 PM
time to get out
You mean you get out of here?  Tongue
J/k, we need some contrary voices sometimes.
Keyword: SOMETIMES!  Grin
4266  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:40:50 PM
And - sorry for repeated posting, but I'm getting a bit excited - is there any new gospel from masterluc? Was the last dip "it"?
4267  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
$50k by March 2018 anyone?
McAfee is safe  Cool










Not at all impossible. Now could be a nice time to long some of them futures if one had balls and access to the platform. Or better yet last week, with a slightly larger dose of balls.
4268  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:33:41 PM
Thanks for cheering up, fabiorem and conspirosphere! My favorite indicators (RSI/Stoch RSI) are still all in neutral (around 0), that's why I asked  Grin

EDIT: on the 12h chart, I mean.
4269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2017, 02:16:58 PM
Going up nicely. Small bulltrap or real lift?
4270  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 11:21:42 PM
The core team, unlike the tree or two people calling the shots for bcash, are hundreds of developers working for *free* vs just a handful. You speak in total disrespect of opensource as such...

Thats where you're wrong kiddo. Look at the github and filter those developers which did more than 1 commit and did not just changed a typo...you're left with basically 5-10 persons
And you, try and take a look at the other github.
4271  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
I have always presumed jbreher is probably at least in the 4 digits BTC, maybe even in the (low) 5's.... Which is why I have always tried to understand why he decided to go the "wrong way" (Jihan/Ver) with so much at stake Smiley

I haven't worked out estimates of jbreher's (or anyone else's) stash, but the man strikes me as a rational thinker with much at stake since a long time. So I also tried to understand the reasons for his choice, and I asked him explicitly. Unfortunately, his explanations with regard to bigblockery/Verism etc. always came short. Disappointing underperformance for a good poster, accurate checker of facts, numerical literate such as he is.
4272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 25, 2017, 12:19:40 AM
On the other hand, it would be much more expensive for the attacker to fill the blocks.
Double size, double number of transactions (on average), double cost.
IMO the issue is that if the ones who spam are miners who pocket most of the fees anyway, it's much too cheap to spam.

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Filling the blocks with transactions of ~ $ 20 in fees should mean a large sum of money (regardless of whether they are miners or not).
If it's majority miners, it's not "regardless". They can rely on mining a large percentage of blocks, which in turn means a large percentage of the fees they paid get back to them.

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Obviously, this type of attack is being made to manipulate the price. If the cost of carrying out the attack exceeds the benefits that can be achieved by manipulating the market, the attacker loses the incentive to carry them out.
Agreed. IMO the way to up the price of spamming is not having larger blocks, because a significant percent of those blocks get mined by the spammer anyway - be they large or small blocks. A better solution would be to have really widespread mining, so the attackers know that their chances of pocketing back their own spam fees are low.

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Also, if 2mb or 4mb blocks are filled with 1sat / B transactions, no one would care, because the fees would still be low
My bad. I didn't write clearly (and I was not being accurate anyway).
I meant 1 satoshi as the transaction amount, not the fee. I know dust transactions are discarded anyway, but I meant "amount as low as can be". A bit of an exaggeration, admittedly.


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Jbreher recently mentioned the tx capacity of an average computer. I quote:

The only serious investigation into the matter has proven that your average 'home' computer today can handle a simple block size increase that will net us about 100 tx/s. And with a fix to core's crappy multithreading design, can handle block size increase up to about 500 tx/s. And that is without looking for other sw architecture improvements.
Jbreher is usually accurate in his factual statements, and his math is usually flawless. However, he does have his bigblocker agenda in his mind when he posts. He failed to mention bandwidth and latency, which are the real bottlenecks - more so than storage or computing power.

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I would like to be able to express my ideas more widely, but the language barrier does not allow me to do so.
I don't know what else you wanted to express, but you made yourself quite clear on these points. Don't think about the barrier - just say what you mean in the best way you manage. I think communication is just fine.

Merry Xmas everybody!
4273  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 10:35:54 PM
I think the blockchain needs to have a sliding window. The network could pay a few nodes to be legacy nodes and hold the full history version or  chunks of archive (searchable).

The main chain could start 2 years ago with each accounts balance on that day and every transaction since then.
Storage is not the only problem. Bouncing big blocks around also causes bandwidth and latency issues.
4274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 10:23:36 PM

If the block limit of 1mb will inevitably be eliminated, why refuse an increase in the size of the blocks at critical times like the ones we have seen these days?

Among other reasons: because, as our good Mayor implies in his reply, a hardfork is required to increase the block size. A hardfork is not unplanned for, but when it happens it should include a bundle of fixes, not just a quick bandaid.
Besides, the bandaid can't really solve the problem, even momentarily: if the spammers are willing to spam no matter what, they can as easily fill double-sized blocks with 1-satoshi transactions.

4275  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 24, 2017, 12:33:22 AM
I have always said that whilst LN is the only scalable solution it will also need a *minimal* increase in blocksize of the underlaying blockchain more sooner than later.

IF we can agree with that (maybe some people don't agree, it seems) AND unless LN is already around the corner (which it seems it is not).... why not do that small blocksize increase now as a temporary fix for the current network congestion (a fact... whatever the multiple causes including intentional spam) in the meantime?

Because any small increase can be spammed for a small increase of the cost.
We need more competition among miners. If possible, we need it before LN even launches, or at least takes off. Onchain transaction fees will likely increase when LN works at full regimen. In any case, we must make sure that when the would-be spammers want to disrupt LN, they tackle that wall of higher fees without the significant "miner monopoly discount" they have right now.
4276  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 10:33:25 PM
Back from beer time. More than one, actually. One too many, probably.
No dip to speak of. Awright, I'll check back later.
Gentlemen...

4277  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 07:39:01 PM
Tom Lee gets it:

Fundstrat's Tom Lee says he's a buyer of the bitcoin pullback, now sees more than 35% gains from here
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/fundstrats-tom-lee-says-hes-a-buyer-of-the-bitcoin-pullback.html

And hey Tom, I bought that dip too! Nailed it at $11,500.
Hm, I'm a bit envious. I started higher, two increasing chunks on falling prices and then more at 12k. Ready for just a little bit moar around 11k. Any ballpark suggestion for a limit buy order while I'm out for a beer?
4278  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 02:02:42 PM
BCash getting the pumpation-sensation by the looks of it.

Have a feeling it's going to be "one of those days" again.
Cheap corn buy orders set up just in case.
4279  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 01:37:38 PM

The way I see it if I had BAC Coin and BAC coin could handle 100 transactions per block.  If I'm the one mining the blocks and collecting the reward... what the fuck do I care what I spend if it causes everyone else to compete with me?

If I send 0 transactions... everyone else has to spend at least $0.01

If I send 100 transactions for $1 a pop... everyone else has to spend at least $1.01. *cha ching*

I'm going to get the transaction fees anyways, so of fucking course, I'm going to spam BAC Coin for year and years to come because it is GROSSLY profitable.

It doesn't seem like rocket science.
Competition.
If you mine half the blocks, on average you know you will pocket 50% of the fees you spend to spam. So you spend 50 to spam 100, and you have a 50% discount on the cost of spamming.

If you mine 1/3 of the blocks, you only pocket 33% of the fees. Spend 66 to spam 100.

If you mine 1/n of the blocks, you only get a 1/n discount. If n is large enough, the discount is negligible and you spam as much as you spend. That's what a healthy fee market ensures.

Unfortunately, he current fee market isn't in good health. The cause is mining centralization, too little competition, so n is small. The 1/n discount for spammers is good enough for their pockets. Let BTC price and mining competition rise, and we'll be rid of the spam. Transaction fees will be due to real transaction pressure only.
4280  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 23, 2017, 01:25:08 AM
I assume you are joking.

Agreed. However, I'm suspecting you're not married or have many close family relations in the US? The moment I brought up renouncing to my wife, and that she would need to apply for visas to visit family, friends, etc., well... you can imagine the response.

[CONDENSED RANT: educating women is pointless etc.]

Do you really? Unassume.
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