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41  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: March 07, 2024, 06:39:19 PM
Final weigh-ins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpvLa71E_M

Wow! So only around 39% here voted for AJ to win. Around 69% is looking for Ngannou's victory this weekend. I wonder if you guys already took the juicy odds on Ngannou.

Once again I want Ngannou to win. But I don't think he gets lucky for the second time. Fury trained at McDonalds during Ngannou's debut but this time AJ is training hard and is not underestimating. Maybe AJ will try to outbox Ngannou early on, avoiding the heavy punches. AJ is also not very used finishing 12 round fights but his stamina should stay longer than that of Ngannou.

There's a lot of jeopardy in this fight. If AJ loses then that's a huge embarrassment and could spell the end of his run to try get his belts back. However, if he wins then that puts him one fight closer to the Fury fight. If he gets a stoppage/KO then that's one thing he managed that Tyson didn't. I think Francis is going to want to make a statement too and go for the KO so he doesn't leave the outcome in the hands of the judges. Francis knows what he's capable of now so he can try use 100% of his punching power whilst knowing he can go the full ten rounds. However, AJ also knows what to expect now and I don't think he will make the same mistake that Tyson did by underestimating him. AJs trainer said he watch the Fury/Ngannou fight over 30 times so they should be well prepared for what Francis will bring.
42  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jake Paul to Fight Mike Tyson in Live Netflix Boxing Event - July 20 on: March 07, 2024, 04:11:55 PM
Da fuck. Just saw Jake post this and didn't know whether it's legit or not.

Mike Tyson also posted it: https://www.instagram.com/p/C4NzOXlroRJ/

And TNT (though not sure why they would be promoting it since it seems to be a Netflix exclusive): https://www.instagram.com/p/C4N1dpNtJbg/

Not gonna lie, I'm kinda piqued by this. Tyson is still a beast and can throw even at his age, but his boxing acumen may override Jake's youth and of course his relative inexperience. I think this is 50/50 right now for me. Personally, I would have liked to see Mike fight John Fury but I suspect John is all talk and wouldn't step up for it. Jake should either be going for the Tommy Fury rematch or the KSI fight which is probably the biggest fight for both of them.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: March 01, 2024, 10:36:32 AM
i hope copa lawyers actually use the airport bag security check-in analogy
it doesnt matter if someone claims someone else did it/hacked/swapped things/added. what you hand in needs to be checked by you because once handed in, its your responsibility and everything is then on you

(well not the analogy itself, but point out that his excuses hold no weight as whats filed is his responsibility)

CSW's efforts are akin to a school kid handing in his homework. the teacher gives him an F grade and the kid is like "um um but but, its not my homework sir, please give me an A for effort".. in this analogy he deserves detention, twice. not just a F grade

Well, they usually push back on the excuses/lies, but only once and then just quickly move on. You would think they would push him a little further given the ridiculousness of the blatant lie, but hopefully the judge is aware of the fancifulness of Craig's excuses and that's all that is needed. Craig's lies are pretty much the legal equivalent of the dog ate my homework. These are all documents he submitted as proof of his claims and now they're doing the opposite it's the shaggy defence of it wasn't me. Why can't Craig just go back and get all the "original" unedited non-hacked documents (because obviously he can't because they don't exist, but I'm surprised the lawyers haven't asked for these). It's like a murderer sat in court and the judge asking why he was found covered in blood, holding the murder-weapon and a receipt for the knife in his pocket, and the only person with motive to commit the murder is that person, but his defence is it must have been someone else or the evidence was planted. How many forgeries are enough? Every document he has submitted has been proven to be forged or tampered with in some way and many are blatant, even the physical notepad should have ended any doubt. If Craig isn't found in contempt and there isn't another trial for that with potential jailtime I think this whole process will have been a farce. If Craig loses this case is he going to be barred from claiming to be Satoshi, or just in the UK? Is he going to just ignore that and possibly move to a different country and still make the same claims whilst no doubt appealing the verdict. I'm really hoping he gets a taste of his own medicine and ends up in several lawsuits that he's never out of court.

Oh, and we've nearly got a bingo:



44  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 29, 2024, 08:42:14 PM
Day 17

The shortest day of the trial so far at little over an hour due to Craig's side dismissing most of their witnesses. Not much happened obviously, but the day opened with COPA confirming the recent email forgeries and they would have a report ready on them soon.

Day 18

The "cryptocurrency expert" Prof Sarah Meiklejohn came across very well. It's funny how lawyers try to spin things in both ways. When Craig is caught plagiarising and his excuse is I was hacked, it's always well, is it possible he was hacked?, and the answer of course is I suppose it is possible, but just like it's possible aliens from another dimension also beamed the forgeries onto his computer from their spaceship. I mean, you can't prove that they didn't do that, so I suppose it is possible. When they were going over Craig's failed signing sessions Meiklejohn gave several ways Craig could have faked them including domain spoofing, wifi-hijacking etc, and Craig's team were pushing these as pie-in-the-sky claims but Meiklejohn's it is possible was dismissed as unlikely fancifulness, even though she stated she didn't believe this is what likely happened (I don't think Craig is smart enough to do this when all it takes is changing a bit of code in electrum, which is probably what he did).

Zem Gao, a blatant Craig Wright fanboy was also cross-examined. I missed the first part of his evidence and him being sworn in and I initially thought he was on COPA's side he was making Craig look so bad. Not sure why Craigs defence had him on, and they ended with going through all his pro-Craig writings at the end which was pretty much an embarrassing slam dunk for his impartiality.

There was no day in court today and the trial will resume tomorrow, and if I understand correctly, Craig is back on the stand to answer the recent admission of the forged email. This should be interesting, but of course he will almost certainly just blame someone else. Hopefully both COPA and the judge take this opportunity to grill Craig rather than just letting him pass the buck to someone else, especially as this is a forgery that took place during the trial. For those wanting a quick refresher here is what happened with the forged email:

Quote
December 2019: Craig and Ontier had an unrelated email exchange

March 2020: Craig sends MYOB login info to Ontier, and they make screenshots that same day

8 Feb 2024:
    * Craig is on the stand stating that Ontier received his MYOB login in 2019
    * Ontier emails Shoosmiths stating that they did create the screenshots in March 2020, not earlier

18 Feb 2024: Craig sends an email to Ontier backdated to December 2019, makes it look part of that December 2019 email thread.

23 Feb 2024:
    * Craig is on the stand again, affirming his previous statement and claiming he has the emails
    * Ramona [Craig's wife] hands over backdated email
    * Shoosmiths asks Ontier, attaches backdated email
    * Ontier reconfirms no login details before March 2020, backdated email was found on their system but found to be received 18 Feb 2023, appears to be part of a December 2019 thread but different.

https://twitter.com/oisyn/status/1763202102266929394

If you want to enjoy another couple of Craig's unbelievably stupid and sloppy forgeries here's a two more:

https://twitter.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1763201157713838500
https://twitter.com/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1763252633177915783

And if you want to read the COPA forensic reports used during the trial here they are: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/4y3gdele4foy15006z8ch/h?rlkey=scs42wew1o3vwfv0nduhc43dm&e=4&dl=0
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 26, 2024, 07:01:05 PM
Day 16:

Mostly boring in court today and ended a little early today as Craig's council decided not to cross-examine their own forensic experts given the obvious. COPA witness Patrick Madden was cross-examined for most of it and I don't think he came across great or did any favours for COPA, but the day ended on an absolute bombshell with the revelation Craig had supplied a forged email purported to be from his previous lawyers and even better was put forward by Craig's own council. Craig's previous lawyers confirmed the faked emails Craig has submitted so that's another nail in Craig's coffin surely. Further details on what actually happened here: https://blog.bitmex.com/copa-vs-csw-day-16-craigs-lawyers-do-copas-job-for-them/

Who said he's a security expert? That's a title Craig has given himself, but given he gets hacked regularly when it's convenient for him as an excuse I'd say I'm more of a security expert than Craig.

I don't think that australian stock exchange would hire someone incompetent for monitoring their systems .

Oh, well I guess Craig is Satoshi then Shocked. Did they hire a so-called security exert who gets hacked multiple times a year? I haven't seen any evidence of him doing anything with the Australian stock exchange, and the same goes for most of Craig's fabricated C.V. What Craig usually does - assuming the claim isn't just a flat-out lie in the first place - is take a kernel of the truth and either inject some backdated lies into it or shit some more lies all over it, sometimes both. Take the meeting minutes from BDO Kendalls: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.828.34.pdf

BDO, a company Craig allegedly worked for, but obviously never had anything to do with bitcoin, so Craig forges and backdates some 'proof' that alleges he mentioned bitcoin long before the publication of the whitepaper, only he gets caught in this physical fraud by writing the notes on a notepad confirmed by the makers to not have existed at the time. Craig lies so much it's impossible to know when he's telling the truth, but you can usually assume he is not.

Christen Ager-Hanssen released his evidence against Craig today which is worth a read:

https://medium.com/@agerhanssen/bdo-drive-october-2007-extracted-2023-you-wanted-evidence-82593c431a11

Along with a load of texts: https://twitter.com/agerhanssen/status/1762110519010312307

For those wanting a current update I would recommend checking out the latest Dr Bitcoin podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aproxaMcFL4
46  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 24, 2024, 09:10:33 AM
when the case wins in favour of COPA (no if).. id hope contempt is least of CSW troubles. id hope the copa win would then be used as evidence of forgery, fraud and multiple other crimes and someone files criminal claims against him. rather then these silly civil claims of annoyances

Well, if the judge finds him in contempt then do they not recommend another trial for that which could pose prison time? You can't lie under oath and perjure yourself and that's all Craig has been doing. My only worry is if they feel it's not in the public interest to do so or maybe give Craig enough benefit of the doubt that there could have been malicious actors planting evidence. Maybe he would have to prove that in the perjury trial.


told ya he would.
the thing about courts is, if you (or your lawyer) are filing a claim they have to check what they file, and sign it in.. much like checking your bag before going to airport, because if the court/airport find things when they search what you hand in, you are on the hook. you cant then later cry 'but someone i dont trust done it for me', sorry but you are still on the hook for what has been handed over in your name

Well yeah, but I guess he doesn't really have much choice but to lie. The fact that he claims unscrupulous enemies hacked into his computers to plant this forged and manipulated evidence in the possibility that Craig might not notice and then use it in evidence in court is beyond ridiculous. I'm really hoping the judge doesn't even consider that as an option and takes it for the bare-faced lie that it obviously is but I don't know how the courts proceed with this.

Craig was shown a video of him literally trying to forge the whitepaper in latex changing it bit by bit to try match the true and original whitepaper. Craig claimed he was just doing a "demonstration" to some unnamed party. You can view the compiled animation from his log edits here: https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1761038309554332034


afterall why would you record yourself performing forgery unless you want to package it up as part of a portfolio of 'art' to be part of some media deal later on.

Oh, no. Maybe I didn't explain it perfectly well. It wasn't an actual video of him that he personally recorded, but if I understand correctly, these edits were found in the metadata of the editing program he used that recorded his each and every change and Craig was obviously unaware of (it might have been latex). COPA then pieced the metadata edits together to make a video so they could show it to the court of what Craig was actually doing. Craig then claimed the edits were for a presentation as if he was showing someone how to do it or something (more BS).

i know he is not smart enough to realise these civil cases can turn criminal. but thinks whilst only civil he is free to do as he pleases without personal repurcussions because its not his money that covers his legal games.. but i do hope someone uses these civil cases as evidence to get some criminal charges filed

Oh he knows. He's mentioned in both this court and others about how you can't lie in court otherwise it's perjury and that has consequences such as jailtime and seems to use that to back up his claims that he wouldn't possibly dare lie in court. He even doubled down yesterday and said that even worse is lying to god haha.

The charisma of Craig is his primary strength.

LOL. Well in that case he is completely fucked.

I can't think of a more disgusting, detestable, deplorable human in the crypto scene, and the bar is very, very low.

Neither BitBoy, Richard Heart, nor Do Kwon hold a candle to what level of douchebag Craig is.

If he is charismatic, it is in the way cult leaders are charismatic: they appeal primarily to the lost, the dumb, and the soul-lessly greedy. Everyone else with a competent or moral mind can see them for who they truly are.

I don't think he is charismatic, he just has sociopathic confidence and rarely gets rattled which is quite an impressive feat. Can you imagine sitting in court with your entire existence based upon lie after life and you have to think of more lies on the fly to cover up those lies and knowing all this behaviour could end up with you in prison. He does seem like a bit of cult leader though, just without the charisma, but if you have the confidence and can talk someone into something then that's just as good if they believe in you and BSV-ers do. I think there's a lot of idiots who actually think he is Satoshi, the others just have a financial interest in him being proclaimed as such so they can enrich themselves with their BSV holdings, but that's something both parties have in common at the end of the day.
47  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 23, 2024, 08:04:12 PM
Day 15:

Missed about an hour or so of the trial today but the bits I did catch were Craig getting fucked. COPA were calling him a liar continually and suggesting he was in contempt several times. Craig was doing more of his usual Shaggy Defence and blaming anyone else he could. He admitted that several of the documents were forgeries, but again, not by him and other malicious actors. COPA asked then why he was using them in his evidence. More excuses obviously. Gets caught out. Passes the blame.

Craig was shown a video of him literally trying to forge the whitepaper in latex changing it bit by bit to try match the true and original whitepaper. Craig claimed he was just doing a "demonstration" to some unnamed party. You can view the compiled animation from his log edits here: https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1761038309554332034

It was also noted today from the disclosed emails Satoshi was obviously very familiar with "unsigned int" which Craig was obviously not: https://twitter.com/dotkrueger/status/1761040309197353395

I'm not sure if Craig is back for more questioning next week or it's the developers for COPA. If Craig isn't prosecuted for contempt after this then there's no justice.

The perfect ending for this trail will be if the real Satoshi Nakamoto could sign a message, saying.. "Craig wright is an imposter, I am the real Satoshi Nakamoto" ...but we know that will not happen. 🙄

This must obviously be done with the early bitcoins that was mined by him and not from some "fake" early coins that were ramdomly chosen.  

I don't think that would be good for bitcoin overall. People would panic thinking Satoshi is going to cause disruption and possibly worry he will dump his coins.

temporary price drama is just blackfriday discount month.. not really a bitcoin killer event
take a look at this last month jan 11th+
grayscale sold 174k of its 620k coins  now check the market price jan 10th vs feb 23rd
($46k $39.5k  $51k)
yes it went down but then it came back up within a month

Well sure, but I think it's a little bit different as Satoshi owns over 1 million btc valued at around $50 billion give or take. Satoshi coming back would cause quite a stir as people would no doubt wonder if his "vision" may steer bitcoin in a different direction.

Following his testimony at the COPA trial, Sirius released the bulk of his 2009-2011 email correspondence with Satoshi:
https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/


https://x.com/marttimalmi/status/1760886692469162491?s=20


Really hoping they challenge Faketoshi on this part:

Quote from: sirius emails
> Is the code free/open source or just open source?

It's free open source.  It's the MIT license, which just requires some
disclaimer text be kept with the source code, other than that you can do
just about anything you want with it.  The source is included in the
main download.

Satoshi

Clearly not intended to be patented in any way, shape or form.

The whole trial is a nonsensical farce. Satoshi obviously released it to the world for free and under such a license and if he wanted to prove he was back he would do it in the way Satoshi designed bitcoin to be. Obviously when you're not Satoshi you have to try prove it the way Craig is trying and failing to do.
48  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 23, 2024, 11:36:13 AM
Day 14

Another short day yesterday as Craig's council dismisses witnesses en masse, but those left still made Craig look very incompetent.

Howard Hinnant, who created the c++ library Craig claimed to have used, was one of the witnesses. Craig Wright claims he modified some code to which Hinnant - someone who obviously knows what he's talking about - commented: "That would be absurd, like starting with a P-51 Mustang plane & ending up with Ford Mustang car. Technically so outrageous that it's literally unbelievable."  Cheesy

Justice Mellor surprised many in the court by pointing out an error one of the witnesses made, which shows he's following along closely. I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone not involved in bitcoin to follow everything going on and I suspect Craig's plan is to try blindside people with irrelevant technobabble. I think these witnesses yesterday showed what an absolute charlatan Craig is. He's just a confident talker but can't back it up when it comes down to it, especially regarding anything technical.

Craig is now back on the stand today and this should be Craig's most taxing day given they're now going over all the evidence presented throughout the week that Craig will need to refute.

The perfect ending for this trail will be if the real Satoshi Nakamoto could sign a message, saying.. "Craig wright is an imposter, I am the real Satoshi Nakamoto" ...but we know that will not happen. 🙄

This must obviously be done with the early bitcoins that was mined by him and not from some "fake" early coins that were ramdomly chosen. 

I don't think that would be good for bitcoin overall. People would panic thinking Satoshi is going to cause disruption and possibly worry he will dump his coins. I think if Satoshi was going to come back he would have done so already, and assuming he isn't dead, Craig's bullshit wouldn't be a worthy excuse for him to return. 99.9% of people already know Craig is a fraud and we don't need proof from Satoshi for that.

Following his testimony at the COPA trial, Sirius released the bulk of his 2009-2011 email correspondence with Satoshi:
https://mmalmi.github.io/satoshi/


https://x.com/marttimalmi/status/1760886692469162491?s=20


Adam Back also shared his: https://twitter.com/pete_rizzo_/status/1760718737286537526
49  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 18th MAY 2024 re-scheduled on: February 21, 2024, 04:43:29 PM
Tyson yesterday notified the WBC that he intends to go ahead with the Usyk fight so we can assume the fight is still on track: https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/tyson-fury-notifies-wbc-president-mauricio-sulaiman-that-he-is-prepared-to-proceed-with-usyk-preparations
If Fury were to lose the fight he would want it to be as a result of a highly dubious points decision rather than a clean KO (or TKO) as it would allow him to claim he won but was cheated. I did read an article stating the WBC was thinking of having five ringside judges for the fight just in case the fight went the full 12 rounds and the result awarded on the judges scorecards.

Ngannou needs to knock Fury out next time and make a statement, and I think he will try his best to do so it's not left up to the judges. I think more judges would help, but people will still be robbed.

It was only a month or two ago that he said he has no interest in fighting AJ and that he's not on his level. I think all those fights would be good, but I'd love to see him against someone like Zhang assuming he beats Joseph Parker next which is on the AJ/Ngannou undercard.
It is funny reading some quotes from Tyson Fury, he changes his mind far to often for anybody to take him seriously  Grin

For the fights you mentioned, I will go for Ngannou to win by knockout by round 4 and for Parker to win by TKO by round 8.

I personally wouldn't put money on Parker in that fight. Parker was KO-ed by Joe Joyce and Zhang absolutely battered Joyce twice and very comfortably I might add. I'm really routing for Zhang as I think he could be very dangerous to the other heavyweights especially Tyson and the big heavyweights are gonna avoid him like the plague. A Zhang Vs Ngannou would be a slugfest. Both have heads and chins made of granite. Either way I'm looking forward very much to the Zhang/Parker fight on the undercard.
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 21, 2024, 04:28:44 PM
Day 13.

Very short day today as Craig's council has decided not to bother cross examining several witnesses due to them obviously not going to help in Craig's favour. One person that was meant to be examined today was Rory Cellan-Jones who used to work for the BBC and was involved when Craig tried and failed to out himself to the BBC. He instead published a blog today about his experience with Craig: https://rorycellanjones.substack.com/p/the-battle-of-bitcoin

Craig still owes him 0.01701 BTC in bitcoin which was worth around £5 at the time but is now worth around £700. He should sue him to get it back  Grin.

The Dr Bitcoin podcast also published an interview with Rory today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=secLQHfCaTI

Here's a list of people who will now not be appearing:




emphasis: he hires people to do all his work. he cant code and nor alot of other things he doesnt do but pretends to/claims to.

Another thing to note here is I don't think he does actually hire people. Passing the buck on to someone else is just part of his lie-arsenal now. How else can he explain away some plagiarism or dodgy backdating editing that is on his personal blog or papers or whatever else. He has to dream up a scenario where he is not responsible otherwise he's guilty and he's been caught in the act, and in court that's contempt which can land him in prison. As long as he passes the buck and sows enough doubt the courts may not bother prosecuting. Even if they did I'm sure Craig would just flee the country again to avoid trial/prosecution.
51  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 20, 2024, 07:35:03 PM
We definitely didn't need it.  But it should now be far more difficult for Wright to maintain his little fanclub of 'SV'ers.  At some point the remaining fools will grow tired of people laughing at them and calling their intelligence and/or integrity into question.  To continue supporting SV now would mean someone would have to be either braindead or malicious.  

His fanboys are delusional and will dream up some way to excuse it. If they had any brains they would have dumped him long ago. Many BSV-ers think Craig is playing some sort of 4D chess on a level even geniuses don't understand so they'll play this off as some sort of elaborate ruse by Craig. It's going to be interesting to see if Calvin Ayre dumps him after this. If Craig's funding gets cut I don't think he's gonna want to piss away his own funds on continuous and costly lawsuits. I also hope that the judge recommends prosecution for contempt against Craig and maybe even some of his lying witnesses. Keeping him in court fighting for his freedom would be the best outcome as he will have to concentrate on that rather than suing others. I really hope the ATO finally puts out a warrant for him as well. Having these sorts of legal pressures on him should weigh him down substantially and hopefully put him where he belongs.
52  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK 18th MAY 2024 re-scheduled on: February 20, 2024, 07:27:22 PM
Tyson yesterday notified the WBC that he intends to go ahead with the Usyk fight so we can assume the fight is still on track: https://www.si.com/fannation/boxing/tyson-fury-notifies-wbc-president-mauricio-sulaiman-that-he-is-prepared-to-proceed-with-usyk-preparations

Still a myriad of things can go wrong to not make this fight happen, but I believe Tyson wants it even if the thinks he might lose. The money is too big to not take it.

Here is an interesting article about Fury stating he wants to fight Usyk twice, then Joshua (probably twice) and Ngannou again but is Fury just being Fury by talking about things that distracting from the real focus? Five fight plan for Tyson Fury

Call it a hunch but when I read about the unification fight I feel there is a chance Fury will pull out of the re-scheduled 18th May 2024 fight with Usyk. Hopefully it will go ahead as planned.

I mean great if true, but Fury changes his mind like the weather, and I also don't believe half of the shit he says. It was only a month or two ago that he said he has no interest in fighting AJ and that he's not on his level. I think all those fights would be good, but I'd love to see him against someone like Zhang assuming he beats Joseph Parker next which is on the AJ/Ngannou undercard.
53  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: February 20, 2024, 07:16:01 PM
(...) Fury might lose his belts soon but it seems Saudi was wanting Francis to fight the winner of Fury/Usyk so the belt could be on the line then, though I don't think it should be right now.

If Ngannou was to beat AJ, then I wouldn't mind him fighting with a winner of Fury Vs Usyk. Sure, it will probably be a record speed to become an undisputed champion in only 3 fights, and giving a novice such a chance sounds like a joke at first. But not giving him such an opportunity, after almost beating Tyson in his very first boxing fight and after defeating Tony, would make the whole sport look bad.
It's not a good look when a newcomer manhandles all the top stars and boxing organisations pretending nothing is happening making him build his record from scratch. Given his age, he would never be able to get a title fight the "normal" way.
AJ fight will confirm if Ngannou belongs in the top 10 or was his first fight just a fluke.


I'd love Francis to challenge for the belts eventually - assuming he actually starts officially beating people - but you really can't give him a title shot for his third fight. If Fury losses the belts I'm sure he will rematch Fury next, but I can't see Usyk fighting Francis and maybe Usyk will just vacate and/or retire the belts if he wins them.



i am seeing AJ get wrecked by Fancis.  even with that simple fight plan he had with Fury will already work with AJ. all he needs is to land big shots.

I'm sticking to the same thing I said for the Fury/Ngannou fight: I think either Francis gets a KO or AJ outboxes him and tires him out.

What now, if he beats AJ, he fights for the belt again?

I suspect Francis will have a MMA/PFL fight next, but not sure he would fight for a belt in boxing next, assuming he wins. He could rematch AJ or Fury (depending on his outcome), or maybe fight one of the mandatories that Fury/Usyk have to try prove himself and get himself on the ladder to eventually fight for a belt, but he needs to earn that right.

^ I guess it just shows how corrupt WBC as a organizations, they will give all the favor to the any fighter that is the current hype on their body. Canelo has his way with them, not fighting his mandatory and choosing any fighter that he wants to fight without any repercussions.

So same here, for sure if Ngannou beats AJ he will be the poster boy of WBC and then fight the winner of Fury vs Usyk.

But if can only last as long as Francis won, specially in a spectacular manner against Joshua.

It's all sanctioning bodies really. All they care about is their fees so it's in their interest to rank fighters so they can collect the sanctioning fees. They could have still put him in the top 50 or something without giving him a top ten.
54  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 20, 2024, 06:15:43 PM
Day 12

Today was mostly taken up by Stefan Matthews who has been caught out in several lies already. Matthews claimed to have been given a draft copy of the whitepaper before it was public, but was shown an email sent from Craig with Stephan CC-ed that proves otherwise:

Here's an article published yesterday that lists lots of contradictions by Craig and his witnesses: https://whatthefinance.com/satoshi/sermon-of-contradictions-11th-testament

Adam Back and Martti Malmi are apparently up tomorrow.


I will try get back on track to the daily updates, but if you want to listen to a concise recap of the trial so far I recommend listening to Part 2 of the Dr Bitcoin podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3CoTfili4
19min 14sec  - 22m 0 sec (the story of secret meetings to destroy satoshi ID in january 2011*)
not only did craig trip himself on the date as it was after G.williams(person claimed to be in secret call) died months prior(aug 2010), but D.klieman was also in hospital at the time.. but there are other inconsistence too not mentioned but worth highlighting now on this forum for context

going back through my own notes.. of al the snippets from different court cases over the years


This wasn't the only person they brought up in the trial. There was some other guy Craig alleged to have been in contact with but that guy was in a hospice at the time and his daughters confirmed he wasn't using or even able to use a computer at the time.

Craig couldn't even explain two simple bits of code within bitcoin nor did he know what the code did. He didn't know what 'static const unsigned int' was. According to Arthur Van Pelt 'unsigned integer' was used over 500 times in the original bitcoin code  Grin. It was at this point I think they should have just called off the trial and told him to get out. Craig really should have spent more time learning to code or at least memorising it instead of wasting his time with phony degrees and worthless patents.

This by itself means anyone who still believes Wright's claims should feel deep humiliation, as it's beyond obvious by this point that they've been taken for fools.  Anyone who claims to be satoshi, but can't explain what satoshi's code does is undeniably a fraud.  And it's permanently on record now for all the world to see.  Wright can't explain the code.  No one can come up with a justifiable excuse as to how the real satoshi wouldn't be capable of answering that question.  Ergo, he isn't satoshi.  That's all the evidence any rational person should need.

The charade is over.

I mean, we didn't need that to know Craig is a fraud, but yeah, the trial should have just been closed early after that. I just wish they could pull out a laptop, link it up the the screen in the court and tell Craig to code bitcoin from scratch. That would be interesting.



I haven't seen so far copa dispute any of his certificates . It would be the no 1 target if copa had any evidence that he either plagiarised or faked any . Strange that none has disputed so probably he is a person with a very wide knowledge .

What certificates? His fake degrees? They have already been through the plagiarism of one of his degrees. Craig blamed it on his editors and some other bullshit.

That leads me to another speculation . If he is a security expert ( let's not forget that's not disputed by copa ) would it be possible not to have c++ knowledge ? So i googled it .

Who said he's a security expert? That's a title Craig has given himself, but given he gets hacked regularly when it's convenient for him as an excuse I'd say I'm more of a security expert than Craig.

CSW admitted he hires patent writers
Hi, sorry for interrupting, patent professional here.  There is a very simple and very good reason for hiring professional patent drafters, and that is that if you don't know what you are doing, you will almost never be able to write a defensible patent.  At least in U.S. patent practice, specific words can have very specific meanings which differ from common connotations;  claims have to be in a specific format;  and the body of the patent must be drafted in particular ways to avoid giving up entire areas of subject matter, or worse, destroying your chances of obtaining or being able to defend a patent.  Also, there are requirements for drawings and how they relate to the claims, such that someone who doesn't know what they are doing can make it impossible to prosecute a patent to allowance.

For example, "plurality" means "two or more" and never one.  One patent-holder's case against a competitor was completely ruined by pointing that out; his patent required two items, but the competitor only used a single item in the not-actually-infringing product.

Another patent-holder could not enforce his patent because the drawings didn't show parts of the claimed matter.  (The USPTO examiner didn't bother to do his job during examination of the application, it should never have been allowed in the first place.)

Yes, legally speaking, you are allowed to draft and prosecute your own patent application.  Doing so is almost always a waste of your efforts because you will be destroyed by your lack of knowledge of the laws and practices.

Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled unfettered glee at the meltdown of Craig Wright and all the other scammers who enabled and supported him.  Hodl on.

Another thing I forgot to mention was COPA brought up Craig's patents. What Craig has actually done in most instances is merely add his name to existing patents. I.E. they were filled by others originally without Craig, but then amended later to include him. He has also been registering the patents in several jurisdictions to bolster the number he has, I.E. if he registers the same patent in the US, UK and wherever else then that is three patents for Craig as opposed to one. Regardless, and as I've always said, his worthless patents are irrelevant to this trial just like his qualifications.

He doesn't understand what's a static const unsigned int, which is considered basic knowledge for beginners in C++. In fact, you can find the definition of these keywords on probably every programming book there is, beyond C++. Yet, he's a "cybersecurity expert" and has written Bitcoin in above-average C++ code. They add up, don't they?  Roll Eyes

Lol! Just lol!

Was his definition wrong or different than what someone would expect ?

He didn't even know what it was let alone what it does and that wasn't the only code he couldn't explain. He's a buffoon and it was over at that point for him, if it wasn't already given every bit of evidence has been found to be fraudulent and manipulated in some way. His witnesses are just making him look like a bigger bozo.

55  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou - March 9 on: February 19, 2024, 04:31:01 PM
Less than a month to go now. AJ and Francis had their first face-to-face discussion recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbc_KOoCu2A

That is why boxing has rank system, ratings and etc. Otherwise any good unknown boxer would come, defeat everyone and sponsors gonna lose their “champion is promoting us” thing. It is not enough to simply be good. You must be good and be high in rank. So far Ngannou is unranked. Btw, Ngannou does not deserve to be a champion.  Simply because he has skipped all that “path to face champion”. He did not fight other contenders. And it is to late for him to do that.

Francis is ranked at Number 10 by the WBC, though I don't believe he should be. The WBC's reasoning was that he's already got a leg-up and proved himself through fighting in the UFC and shown he can go toe-to-toe with the current heavyweight champion of the world so therefore he deserves to be ranked. I mean, sure, maybe put him in the top 50 or something but not straight into the top 10. That's just silly but there's a reason many call the WBC "We Be Corrupt" and they obviously want their sanctioning fees. It will be interesting to see how long before he is challenging for the WBC belt though. Now he's in the top 10 he can actually fight for it, but fighting Fury again with the belt on the line would be a bit silly in my opinion. I would love for Francis to win it at some point but he needs to earn that right and not have it handed to him after a few fights. Of course, Fury might lose his belts soon but it seems Saudi was wanting Francis to fight the winner of Fury/Usyk so the belt could be on the line then, though I don't think it should be right now.
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 19, 2024, 04:19:42 PM
Sorry for missing the updates for the past few days. Here's a quick summary:

Day 8:

Day 8 was the last day of Craig's cross examination. COPA's Jonathan Hugh KC has now finished questioning him and handed over cross-examination to Alexander Gunning KC for the first time who was grilling Craig on the bitcoin code. It was by far my favourite day as Craig fucked himself royally and he knew it. Craig couldn't even explain two simple bits of code within bitcoin nor did he know what the code did. He didn't know what 'static const unsigned int' was. According to Arthur Van Pelt 'unsigned integer' was used over 500 times in the original bitcoin code  Grin. It was at this point I think they should have just called off the trial and told him to get out. Craig really should have spent more time learning to code or at least memorising it instead of wasting his time with phony degrees and worthless patents.

Day 9:

Craig's cross examination has finished now and his "expert witnesses" are now being cross examined. And when I say expert witnesses they include his sister, friends, and people who worked for or with him years ago. I'm not sure why Craig picked these doofs because they're making him look like an even bigger idiot. One of the witnesses was caught looking down at something at certain points after questions. COPA's lawyer asked him if he was reading from something and he admitted he was. He was asked what he was reading from and said notes. He was asked why he had notes and who gave him them. He denied Craig gave him them and made the notes himself, but couldn't explain why he needed them. The time he was caught was when he mentioned Timecoin because he paused and looked down before he continued. This is the first time he'd ever mentioned Timecoin and hadn't mentioned it in either of his previous testimonies for Craig, so it was pretty obvious he'd been told to try shoehorn this mention in somewhere and obviously has list of things Craig has told him to now mention to bolster his claims. Timecoin is something Craig dreamed up fairly recently so it's obviously another example of Craig trying to backdate evidence and re-write history in his favour.

Day 10:

This was a shorter day and included only a couple of testimonies, including from Craig's sister. The best thing she had was that Craig has always been smart and weird, and used to dress up as a ninja as a kid Grin. So... Satoshi is a Japanese name and ninjas are Japanese, so therefore Craig is Satoshi??? The other people were just old work colleagues in various capacities. Pretty much all the witnesses couldn't remember Craig ever mentioning something specific to bitcoin, only that he was always messing about with computers, and might have mentioned something like blockchain, or mining etc, but Hugh kept asking them if this is what actually happened or are they looking back through the prism of hindsight and knowing what they know now rather than at the time. The trial has become a farce now in my opinion.

Day 11: Today

Today we've had Craig's witnesses of David Bridges, who worked alongside Craig at Australia's Qudos Bank who he met Craig in 2006, Max Lynama who is Craig's cousin, and now BSV's Stefan Matthews who is currently being cross examined as I type this. Nothing exciting or important has happened or been said so far really and Matthew's is just denying most things.

I will try get back on track to the daily updates, but if you want to listen to a concise recap of the trial so far I recommend listening to Part 2 of the Dr Bitcoin podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3CoTfili4

They have been doing updates every few days and I'm sure part 3 will be coming soon.
57  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 13, 2024, 05:47:27 PM
Day 7

Much more of the shaggy defence today (It wasn't me). Craig claims to have never personally posted one of his blogs, but had numerous "editors" doing so for him, so of course any backdated forgeries are not him but one of the various editors, only one he could recall the first name of.

Craig also claimed he was hacked by Ira Kleiman who planted backdated blogs to smear him. COPA's barrister KC Hough rebutted him "But this was before you even contact with Ira". Craig then claimed it was in fact Ira's lawyers. I'm surprised Craig hasn't claimed yet that his dog ate the original whitepaper/USB stick that the genesis block was on. He also claimed the ATO were the ones who leaked some of the forged documents.  

Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.
You can check his qualifications for charles state university here https://alumni.csu.edu.au/benefits/verify-qualifications , craig wright 23-10-1970

Edit. If his doctorate was plagiarised after all the noise years ago i would expected that the university would have it withdrawn , i'm not sure if this can happen though , someone with knowledge on this might add something productive .

Can you link to his degree page because it says you need his full name and birthdate, but CSU has stated they're investigating the plagiarism:

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2020/05/11/craig-wrights-doctoral-thesis-being-investigated-for-plagiarism/

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Though his claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto are controversial at best, that’s more due to his lack of proof than his acts of plagiarism. In spite of that, Wright still enjoys his supporters and believers. If a lack of proof doesn’t sway them, repeated and believable allegations of plagiarism certainly won’t.

But Wright’s plagiarisms may finally have a consequence.

The same author that discovered the plagiarism in Wright’s Master of Laws dissertation, PaintedFrog, found similar plagiarism in Wright’s doctoral dissertation and Charles Sturt University. There, Wright was granted a Ph.D. in Computer Science and Economics in 2017. According to his bio, he also was a lecturer and researcher at the university.

However, that degree may now be in jeopardy as Charles Sturt University has revealed that it is investigating the allegations. Though it can’t confirm anything beyond that, the announcement has caused many to hope that the degree is revoked.

Unfortunately for those eager to see Wright suffer consequences for his plagiarism, that optimism likely needs to be tempered. Revoking a degree, though possible, is an extreme last step and it’s one that few schools take regularly.

However, that doesn’t mean that Wright won’t be impacted by the investigation if they do find that plagiarism took place.

But again, any qualifications Craig claims to have are irrelevant to him being Satoshi, especially when they've all come long after his claims. What Craig is is just a conman who rocks up in a nice car, flashy suit and tells you all about his many qualifications in order to gain trust. A man this intelligent couldn't possibly be a scam artist, but that's exactly what he is. Craig knows full well that nobody is going to believe him so he has to fake all his "proof" but when he gets caught out he blames everyone but himself, so now his last resort is hoping he can collect a load of qualifications to make out like he's a genius, and Satoshi was a genius, so craig must obviously be Satoshi.
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 12, 2024, 11:24:43 AM
Day six.

Missed the first 30 minutes of the trial this morning but Craig is getting absolutely rekt right now. First time I've seen him red-faced as they are bringing up his Master of Law degree plagiarism haha. If I'm understanding him correctly he's now blaming the degree plagiarism on an editor he hired and also malfunctioning editing software. Even the judge has expressed disbelief asking Craig "how on earth" is this logical. Mind-blowing. Annoys me that they even keep referring to him as Dr Wright, a qualification he quite clearly has not earned.

You can see the evidence that they're discussing here now: https://medium.com/@paintedfrog/craig-wrights-llm-dissertation-is-full-of-plagiarism-f21439ea8a47

"Satoshi" is now trending on twitter.

59  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 09, 2024, 07:20:10 PM
Day five:

More of the same from Craig today as he has been playing more of the blame game and pleading the Shaggy Defence (it wasn't me) and everyone but him is responsible for the faked documents he has submitted in evidence of him being Satoshi. Today he claimed Christen Ager-Hanssen basically hacked into not only his computer to plant faked documents to frame him but that he also hacked his phone and had access to all his personal communications such as emails and whatsapp messages for months. Quite impressive to hack both devices of one of the world's most leading security experts and for Craig not to know he was being monitored for such a length of time.

Craig also got a telling off for reportedly speaking with Australian Financial Review during the trial. In fairness to him it did look like they ensnared him on his way out and spun a offhand comment into an entire article, that is if you believe Craig, which we all know the answer to that question but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

There's a couple of Craig Wright bingo cards for anyone watching and wants to play along:

https://twitter.com/Twentynothing00/status/1755921531568296360


https://twitter.com/THBitcoinBuddha/status/1755909856093962444


If anyone wants a recap of the first few days of the trail the excellent Dr Bitcoin podcast has done an hour episode covering some of the juiciest bits and it's well worth a listen rather than just watching the stream or reading tweets etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOnnlLm8_9c

Trial is adjourned until Monday. Will be back with updates then.

The UK Court should have allowed relaying the full livestream for media coverage. Why the court has taken such decision is confusing, may be not for others but is for myself.  Ultimately COPA will win the case.

You can request a link to the stream but you need to give them your full name. Not sure why it isn't fully public but maybe they don't want people recording and sharing it en mass. It's not terribly exciting unless you enjoy listing to Craig waffle on about irrelevant bullshit. I'm sure it will get spicier once the expert witnesses are called.
60  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial on: February 08, 2024, 05:14:26 PM
Day four

Day four has now concluded. As usual Craig has been blaming everyone but himself for the forgeries. He admitted today that several documents are in fact fraudulent, but passed the buck onto disgruntled ex-employees who are trying to make him look "incompetent". No Craig, you make yourself look incompetent. Not sure why he's using these documents as part of his defence but I guess he needs to backtrack once they get exposed as faked. They also went into the Tulip Trust nonsense and brought up his ATO tax issues.

Craig has also claimed the Kleiman court case where he was ordered to pay billions was one of the best things that happened to him as his outburst lead him to seek anger management. Craig will take very opportunity to grab some sympathy.

Also of note some BSV-tard shared a screenshot of holdnaut attending proceedings on twitter, thus being in contempt of court. The judge warned that access to the live stream may be cut if it happens again. Seems like it would be in the interest of BSV-ers to have the stream terminated so I'm not sure why one bad actor should penalise everyone else. Hopefully the person is prosecuted.

As you know his opponents ( AVP , Lopp etc ) were saying that he doesn't even have diplomas . Does he give you that impression ? Do you think he is/was a forensics expert?

he wasnt a forensics expert
heck he cant even forge his own documents correctly so doesnt know much about forensics to cover his own lies
also when he created companies like "info defense"/"hotwire" he was not actually offering any real services. didnt even have a server farm of super computers, he was just creating shell companies scamming both the australian and american governments for R&D grants/tax rebates.. the american gov never gave him any money and his partner seen early the scam and stepped away. but he did manage to scam the australian government and got caught(and ran off)

..
added note of future prospects of CSW drama
CSW filed forged documents to australian gov over years and got caught.., however CSW and his then team then tried to suggest the documents he filed with australians gov were THEN edited where he blamed the australian government for falsifying/editing the documents..
so as i said in earlier post i expect him to later suggest he will say(probably, as its his style) that he had originals, but at filing someone else edited the files either an assistant of his at filing or the UK courts edited it at receipt and presented him at court with edited documents

Another note: Craig has literally claimed to be one of the world's leading IT security experts, yet he's been hacked more times than I can count. Some of the excuses he comes up with to explain the hacks are also fanciful. See the Pineapple hack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10PAgBTPt60
https://mylegacykit.medium.com/will-craig-wrights-purchase-order-forgery-blow-up-the-pineapple-hack-lawsuit-8ae4da6fffdb
https://fullycrypto.com/craig-wright-ordered-to-pay-430000-in-pineapple-case

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Wright claims that in February 2020 an Oceans 11-style team broke into his house, planted a pineapple WiFi device and stole access to Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash wallets holding billions in bitcoin and BSV, as well as wiping 50GB of cloud data for no readily apparent reason.

Like all normal people, rather than appealing for public assistance in tracking down the gang, Wright sued the developers of the chains involved, saying that they had a duty to give him back the coins. This is despite there being ample evidence that the coins were never Wright’s to begin with.

You can even read the ridiculous story on Coingeek:

https://coingeek.com/dr-craig-wright-stolen-bitcoin-heres-what-went-down/

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Access to Tulip Trading’s coins was controlled using keys stored on Dr. Wright’s home computer in Surrey. The keys were contained in encrypted wallet.dat files, which were contained within a password-protected RAR file. The wallet.dat files themselves were also protected by an algorithmic masking scheme as a layer of added protection.

Dr. Wright discovered that there had been a hack on Saturday, February 8, 2020, when he noticed three transactions (‘two of them substantial’) transferring Bitcoin out of a wallet unrelated to the 1Feex and 12ib7 addresses. This led him to find that the RAR file was also missing, together with 37GB of files which had been wiped from cloud storage and which contained ‘approximately 50’ white papers and associated research data. £1.1 million worth of BSV, held in a separate wallet, had also been drained, and a further 0.333 BTC held on a popular exchange had been taken, too. Crucially, by losing the RAR file, Dr. Wright had lost any means to control the enormous holdings in the 1Feex and 12ib7 addresses.

Dr. Wright maintains that he can’t be sure how the hack happened, but intriguingly, says that he believes the hack was in part effected via a mysterious wireless router which he had subsequently found in his home and which no one in his family recognize:

“I believe that it must have been planted there by the hackers, either when tradesmen were in our home or by breaking in. This is being considered by the Police and me in the context of the ongoing investigation.”

The hacks are obviously convenient excuses to cover up lies he made up to cover up previous lies.
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