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41  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: May 05, 2020, 11:56:56 PM
Not surprising. The man apparently doesn't possess an original thought of his own. As evidenced by our resident troll, of course this won't deter the tools who already drank the Kool Aid from continuing to put their eggs in a fraudulent basket.

Is anyone out there compiling a list of achievements and revelations he actually HAS had a hand in? Are there any?

It's looking like he's spent so much time stealing from others that had he devoted the same amount to something original he would've solved world hunger and baldness by now.

I don't know if he has the skill to deviate from his current conduct.
42  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: May 05, 2020, 05:35:01 AM

I'm kind of sad that only 1 of the 4 ever responded in this thread, and that was the guy with the long (longest?) hair. His name eludes me at the moment but he was here.

I was kind of hoping that Craig would stop by in the form of leaving a comment as satoshi just to show everyone who's boss. Sadly, that never materialized.

Have you guys been following the latest with Jimmy Nguyen? Apparently he claims he was always available to receive the subpoena from Ira Kleiman's lawyers but has just been too busy. He's been so busy that he hasn't had time to tweet or check his twitter either, I guess.

Here is a whole thread dedicated to faketoshis.

People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis)

Painted frog just did a fantastic analysis of CSWs Phd Thesis which appears to be plagiarized from multiple sources.

https://medium.com/@paintedfrog/craig-wright-plagiarized-significant-portions-of-his-phd-thesis-and-tried-to-hide-it-80cd8f01459


43  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis) on: April 29, 2020, 06:04:30 AM
Love the idea of this thread, an all in on collation of faketoshis  Smiley
I don’t want to spam  up your thread , but I’ve been interested in this myself and found the US copyright website

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Bitcoin%3A+A+Peer-to-Peer+Electronic+Cash+System&Search_Code=TALL&PID=oyefnTa_Nuq7akCTyLQ_8zn7xtCh&SEQ=20200106132453&CNT=25&HIST=1



There appears to be 6 applications in for the whitepaper, so I can only assume that these people of claiming to be Satoshi ?

2 - applications are from Guido
1 - from CSW
1- appears to be from Ronald Keala Kua Maria
1 - from Wei Liu ?
1 - from Arthur van Pelt ?

All details are on the website and apologies if I am spamming  Smiley



Wei Liu and Arthur Van Pelt both registered the copyright to demonstrate how easy it is to lodge a copyright. They both claim "we are all Satoshi" rather than that they wrote the whitepaper.

https://www.coindesk.com/everyone-can-be-satoshi-wei-liu-on-contesting-craig-wrights-copyright

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Liu is a crypto entrepreneur from China and said his goal in registering the document was to point out that copyright is technically meaningless in this context. To be clear, Liu chose not to answer whether or not he is Satoshi Nakamoto when asked by CoinDesk.

He said:

“I filed it just to let people know anyone can register a copyright. Everyone can be Satoshi Nakamoto.”









44  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Bruno Kucinskas Trilogy - Part I: Phinnaeus Gage on: April 27, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
I didn't know Bruno other then following his posts on Bitcointalk.

It is sad that some of the Bitcoin OGs have fallen victim of scams and even inadvertently and unwillingly participated in them. Leaving them broke in the end.

Certainly one of the most entertaining characters on the forum. (Voted most entertaining person on Bitcointalk 2018).



https://usobit.com/obituaries-2020/04/bruno-kucinskas-jr-march-4-1960-april-8-2020-age-60/



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236380.0
45  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Plead] Phinnaeus Gage's User Moniker Manifested Due to a Malignant Brain Tumor on: April 27, 2020, 01:20:18 PM
Bruno was voted most entertaining identity on bitcointalk in a 2018 poll.

Most entertaining person on bitcointalk - POLL - 12 days - 3 votes per member

His accounts are:

YuTü.Co.in
Gleb Gamow
Phinnaeus Gage
46  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis) on: April 27, 2020, 01:32:08 AM




Jörg Molt was quickly called out by his ex wife and Andreas Antonopoulos


Craig Steven Wright is discussed here

Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido discussed here

Bilal Khalid(AKA James Caan ) discussed here

Phil Wilson discussed here

Ronald Keala Kua Maria discussed here
47  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis) on: April 27, 2020, 01:14:40 AM
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48  Other / Ivory Tower / People claiming to be Satoshi (List of Faketoshis) on: April 27, 2020, 01:14:18 AM
DISCLOSURE: I don't believe any of these people to be Satoshi.



Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido - Belgium - (Copyrighted whitepaper)
Ronald Keala Kua Maria - Hawaii - Claims to be Satoshi but curiously trademarked "Bitcoin Cash"
Jörg Molt - Germany
Craig Steven Wright - Australia / United Kingdom (Copyrighted whitepaper & claims copyright over the bitcoin database)
Bilal Khalid(AKA James Caan ) - Pakistan / United Kingdom
Phil Wilson (aka Scronty) - New Zealand
Peter Benjamin -Benjamin Capital Management Group - USA (TeamSatoshi - Unsuccessfully Sued Craig Wright in the UK)
"Satoshi Nakamoto" represented by Robert
 Meyring - Meyring Law - USA (Current lawsuit in the US)
Panda Batterham - USA ?
"Satoshi Nakamoto Real" - Russia (Corresponded with "Hell Finny" <sic>)
Lance the Bali "Satoshi" (originally from Texas).

These are people that have publicly stated that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Other than Phil Wilson who claims to have worked with Craig Wright all of them claim to have worked independent of each other.

This all started on twitter where a conversation between Arthur van Pelt, Pete Myers and Adam Back came up with a brilliant suggestion:

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They have all called each other frauds.

I would love to see a head to head debate between them chaired by
@adam3us



Have I left off any notable claimants from my list ?

Any suggestions on who should be hosting the event ?
49  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Excuses and minimization offend people on the right side of an argument on: April 23, 2020, 05:34:58 PM

Validation of Wright's evidence is a question for a technical expert. Gavin had sufficient expertise to demand the right things-- he had even previously published a more or less reasonable laundry list-- and he didn't. He also knew enough to know the basic limits of his expertise, such as being unable to determine if a random windows PC had been tampered with. Most importantly, he should have known that he was being asked to participate because his enforcement would be taken as a high degree of assurance, nearly proof, by the media and the public -- and as a result deserved either an appropriately diligent vetting on his part or a refusal to participate if he was unable or uninterested in providing one.

From my perspective it was just another example of a long history of poor judgement.
 
The fact that anyone can be tricked is why it's so much more important for people who will be perceived to be an authority to make an extra effort to not get tricked or just not play along.  So I think here the issue isn't so much that wright tricked him, it's that he shouldn't have been exposed in the first place, and that to this day he still has do little to nothing to walk back the damage.  Wright suckers still continue to cite his equivocation as evidence to support wright. I  think Ver is one of the less ethical people around cryptocurrency, and yet even Ver did better and eventually provided an unequivocated statement against wright's claims.


I have often seen people with a list of "thinks to ask and do" crumble under pressure in court or in a pressure setting. Wright would have known Gavins strong desire for being shown a demonstration of proof. Wright would have carefully spelled out his demands and "walked away" if he felt the ruse wouldn't work due to his demands not being met. With other situations his temper and demeanor resulted in him intimidating others or throwing his toys out of the cot. Gavin appears to be a relatively placid character.

To verify it properly it either needs to be able to pass public scrutiny or requires a "James Randi" of Crypto to verify it properly using carefully prepared tests. The demonstrator should never set the limits or scrutiny of the test.  The test needs to be designed by those that verify it.

Wright has the perfect chance to prove it in the Kleiman and McCormack case. Where the court determines conduct and demeanor. The lawyers and experts will determine the tests.

If he does not utilize the opportunity to prove it then he will still be held liable for his claims. For the case to succeed they do not have to prove that he is or isn't Satoshi. They just have to prove that his conduct means Kleiman is eligible for compensation.

Under "fair comment" McCormack only has to prove that based on the publicly available information that in McCormacks opinion he is not Satoshi.

The BSV camp will try to claim victory while facing complete failure. Because despite the claims that evidence will be provided by Craig that he is Satoshi I am of the opinion that it will not stand up to scrutiny.


this has been discussed o many times and we have made a conclusion that craig is not satoshi but faketoshi. By discussing him again and again we are doing what he exactly want i.e. giving him popularity. so I suggest all members not to discuss this faketoshi.

"I knew Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto was a friend of mine. And you Sir are no Satoshi Nakamoto."

https://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto



50  Other / Meta / Re: Are admins of bitcointalk related with satoshi? on: April 16, 2020, 03:04:14 AM

What if @theymos is satoshi...  Roll Eyes

Theymos created the first block explorer. I think that is an accomplishment on its own merits. There are plenty of people around on this forum that are less well known and have made massive contributions to bitcoin and crypto in general.

Just a few of them.
51  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: April 16, 2020, 02:23:05 AM


Craig Wright on the topic of  Hodling or rather hoedeling as he pronounces it.

"Hoedeling is probably the most despicable evil thing you can do with bitcoin"

Says the the man who claims to control the bitcoins mined by Satoshi that have never been moved.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1250595473368338432

UPDATE:



CSW appears to have been banned from Twetch
52  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trolls, dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals. on: April 11, 2020, 02:30:29 AM
Sure, but he is making claims that he is being neutral with what he adds, it seems rather that he is selectively adding them. If he wants to pick sides that's fine, just stop pretending to be neutral.

I think it's far more likely that your own opinion about Vod and/or his dramas is biased. At any rate, this is xtraelv's thread and it's his effort that makes it worth reading. I think it would be quite boring if he started doing some sort of affirmative action - one thread from this "side", one thread from another "side"...

suchmoon talking about bias is hilarious. She trusts Vod’s ratings ever after he gave me negative trust for putting on a fundraiser for a dying forum member... Talk about bias and horrible judgement.

Yep, magically the comment about him being a pretender was reported and removed. Funny how it is always the critical posts that are reported.

Someone must have reported it. I wouldn't. It is still visible here if it makes you feel better. http://loyce.club/notifications/897509.html

Being called a pretender is fairly warm coming from you. Usually the words you use on the forum are much harsher.   Grin  Even my friends sometimes call me a cunt.
53  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trolls, dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals. on: April 08, 2020, 06:14:05 PM


It must be frustrating that you have to make multiple sockpuppet accounts in order to bypass peoples "ignore list" . Yet considered insignificant and not even get a mention on a troll list. Ultimate fail. Cannot even make it as a troll.
 
54  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trolls, dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals. on: April 08, 2020, 11:10:54 AM
You don't appear to be neutral picking and choosing which drama threads to add. The thread is distinctively lacking in threads critical of Vod even though he is probably long term the biggest source of drama from any single user on the forum. Of course you have no problem complying with his requests to add threads to bring attention to threads he wants attention on.

You can always start your own competing list of drama threads and list whatever you want.

Unless you're trying to stir some "TECSHARE vs xtraelv" drama here, in which case you've got ways to go.

Sure, but he is making claims that he is being neutral with what he adds, it seems rather that he is selectively adding them. If he wants to pick sides that's fine, just stop pretending to be neutral.

There is no intent to include every drama or even a complete analysis of every drama.

If I write more about certain people I will be accused of giving them more "airtime" - If I write less I will be accused of selectively adding people.

TECSHARE you are not really in a neutral position to judge what is neurtal.

Something that is "written from a neutral perspective" cannot ever be completely neutral . I'm also not an expert on anthropology.

The intent of this thread is to provide people who are not familiar with the forum dramas a small glimpse or insight of what the drama is about.

It is up to the reader to investigate further if the want to know more detail. I believe I have included most prominent disputes.

55  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Unofficial thread - announcements regarding the Cryptopia security breach. on: April 08, 2020, 09:16:38 AM
Cryptopia ruling has just been made in the high court. If you are an account holder I recommend following the Cryptopia twitter account.
https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1247765372444409859

Since a ruling has been made regarding how the crypto funds are to be treated it is likely that they will announce a formal process that will need to be followed to claim back your crypto.

56  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptopia Cryptocurrency Platform Services and Development on: April 08, 2020, 07:56:52 AM
This is good news in a shit situation.
https://twitter.com/Cryptopia_NZ/status/1247765372444409859



https://www.grantthornton.co.nz/globalassets/1.-member-firms/new-zealand/pdfs/cryptopia/civ-2019-409-000544---ruscoe-and-moore-v-cryptopia-limited-in-liquidation.pdf


It means that is you own xyz coin it is held separate from abc coin. It is not such good news for creditors of the company or holders of coins that were affected by the hack.

From my understanding it means that the losses are not socialized but each coin category owns the coins that are held by the company in trust for those coin owners and will be need to be returned as coins rather than $.

New Zealand law views crypto as property rather than currency. This does give stronger ownership protection.

The most important paragraph of the ruling.



As I predicted in May 2019:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669443.msg51096551#msg51096551
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669443.msg51124268#msg51124268

57  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trolls, dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals. on: April 07, 2020, 11:02:32 AM
Where is the theymos vs. Lauda ordeal from 2019? That was semi-private but still quite the scandal. Tongue

I've included that now. Theymos v Lauda

I've also included the Russian dispute.

I try to be neutral with the topic regardless of my personal opinion. But if you feel that it misrepresents what happened. Please let me know.
58  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk trolls, dysfunction and all out flame wars. Guide to the scandals. on: April 05, 2020, 12:59:53 PM
xtraelv, can you add OG vs Vod to the OP?  It's good practice that future users know how many people OG accused of being a liar, a pedophile, etc.  I added some links to my signature to help people realize OG calls everyone these things when they expose him.   I am not the bad guy here.

(You could also capture his negative trust... he has FIVE against me now)

I've added it to the list. It is probably very symilar to the rest of the issues some members have with OG.

It is a pity that it wasn't resolved in the last round of forgiveness and reconciliation.  I was pleased to see that the war with QS has stopped.
59  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: April 05, 2020, 12:31:29 PM

Oh, are you being served ...

"Jimmy Nguyen, who normally tweets almost on a daily basis, went totally quiet after this. Is he taking "social distancing" to the next level? "
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1246404801891569664


...

"Jimmy - we've been trying to serve you with a subpoena in Kleiman v. Wright.  We tried your house and your email. Will you accept service via Twitter? https://tinyurl.com/st2z2gv  @KyleWRoche"
- https://twitter.com/VelvelFreedman/status/1244322484679315461

It is quite hard to believe at this stage that Jimmy Nguyen does not know that they are trying to serve him. Calvin Ayre has commented on the post and it would be hard to believe that he would not pass on such a message unless he was deliberately not telling him.




While there probably will be no legal consequences for dodging being served - it could be construed as showing contempt to the court process.

I believe Jimmy Nguyen was a US lawyer. Showing disregard for the court process may make it more difficult to be re-admitted to the bar in future. (Just an observation)
60  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper on: April 05, 2020, 07:03:54 AM

Of course, the overwhelming majority of civil cases result in some kind of settlement, and surely Craig's backing out of one of those earlier settlement agreements (wasn't it entered into in fall 2019, but backed out a few months later?) is going to cause more difficulties to settle, but surely not impossible and likely the goal of all sides, maybe including the judge does not want to turn some of the civil matters into criminal matters with the level of outright lying and deception of Craig's folks which may be tolerated more for both defendants and in civil matters, but surely he has been pushing limits with his ongoing bullshit and seemingly outrageous abuse of the system.

In civil cases judges are often reluctant to apply criminal sanctions. It is more likely that civil sanctions are applied.

According to the O'Hagan version of events - CSW fled Australia. Kleimans lawyer stated in one of the court documents that the Australian authorities had made contact with him.

A detrimental outcome for him is inevitable.

Whatever the outcome - any penalties will always be interpreted by his groupies as confirmation that he is being persecuted for being Satoshi
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