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401  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: January 29, 2024, 09:03:50 PM
I agree with his mother that he should stop gambling, because gambling is quite dangerous for a person if it is not controlled by oneself. Moreover, the effects of gambling addiction can unintentionally affect a person so it is better to avoid it.

A mother will definitely direct their children in the right direction and tell them the truth that gambling is not good to take too seriously because gambling is related to money, children who are still in school and still under the care of their parents definitely do not have a stable income. which they can use for gambling, so what happens when they don't have money for gambling of course they will steal and even use their school money for gambling. Don't ever try to gamble if you are still a school child you will only make things difficult for yourself, I have a friend who didn't finish school because he was addicted to gambling, he is unemployed now.

402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: January 29, 2024, 08:39:02 PM
I appreciate the struggle of the Indonesian players in their participation in the Asian Cup. I think Indonesia, which is the team with the lowest ranking, is already great enough to be able to appear until the 16th round. Shin Tae Yong has really been able to change the playing style of the Indonesian National Team as a whole, yes, maybe it's just a matter of time before Indonesia's current generation will be able to talk a lot about it. regional competitions they will participate in.

Of course, it is not easy for anyone to handle a team with all its shortcomings, meaning that the average Indonesian player is not yet fully able to understand football professionally, there are quite a lot of basic mistakes that the coach from South Korea continues to correct and it is proven that currently their game is very developed.

Indeed, from the start Australia was a strong team, they were one of the champion candidates, but I also appreciate the Indonesian national team's struggle to reach the round of 16, but the good thing I saw this time was that no one blamed Shin Tae Yong's strategy, he was great coach, but the quality of Indonesian players is still far below Australian players, once again congratulations to the Australian national team.

the match between Yordania vs Iraq really ended dramatically, who would have thought that Jordan's 2 goals came in the 95th and 97th minutes, it was really bad luck for Iraq to concede two goals at the end of the match.
403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 29, 2024, 07:13:28 PM
What a bad end for a mighty player of BArcelona like Xavi, but well this is football and not only football the most high level football, so its not easy to become a great player and a great coach, Barcelona seems to be in the same pace as Manchester United, huge teams who lose the path and cant come back to the good one, no matter what they do.

I see that Barcelona is not as bad as Manchester United, they only lost badly in the last 2 matches (losing 4-2 to Bilbao and losing 5-3 to Villareal), I am sure of Xavi even though he is currently confused about what other strategy he should use to boost the squad's performance.
still remember a few seasons ago when Barcelona was in a crisis, Xavi came as a savior, well, of course xavi will be able to return barcelona's performance to its original place, however barcelona has good players, it would be a shame if barcelona followed in the footsteps of manchester united.
404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling by financial dependents. on: January 29, 2024, 05:48:38 PM

That's right, people who have never earned money by hard work will not appreciate this money. Everyone has to find out for themselves that money is very difficult.

I know many examples when children from rich families lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and did not feel anything at the same time - not the slightest remorse.
 And all this precisely because for them money was just a number on the screen in the "deposit" window. And it is from such people that the most dependent ludomaniacs are obtained.

Spoiled... is a trait that rich parents instill in their children so it's no wonder why many rich children don't feel pain when they lose big money while gambling or going on a spree, but it's very different when you earn money with difficulty, you will definitely struggle to be able to use the money as well as possible and will even feel hurt if you spend the money at the gambling table.
Many great gamblers are born from those who have good money management, well it's interconnected because good money management proves that you can control your finances very wisely, you won't gamble with more money than you have.
Unlike those who are unable to control their finances, they will definitely use all the money they have to gamble until they don't have any savings left.
405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin an opportunity like land on: January 29, 2024, 04:38:37 PM
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Its better for your regret to be not buying more than for it been not buying at all.

How's the price of land in your country?
Have you ever thought been in the time where land was cheap and bought alot?
Are you boarding the train(cheap) of Bitcoin holders or you want to wait for private jets? Grin

bitcoin is an opportunity!  that is a perfect sentence, as long as bitcoin maintains its circulation then its value will continue to increase like land, this is what makes me not really like bitcoin ETFs because that concept will only make the number of bitcoins seem to increase many times over.  The formula is actually simple, there is a limited amount of land so the price will continue to rise and if Bitcoin can continue to reach 21 million then the price will also continue to rise.

(but the difference between bitcoin and land is very big, usually land will only become a bubble in big cities and only very rich people can afford it while bitcoin will not become a bubble and all groups can buy bitcoin)
406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Paying house rent with bitcoin is it appropriate? on: January 29, 2024, 02:37:47 PM
Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



fiat will continue to have the same value and even tend to decrease due to inflation every year while bitcoin is different, the value of bitcoin will continue to change or fluctuate every day and tends to show significant price increases every year.
After a president who supports Bitcoin is elected, the euphoria of citizens towards Bitcoin will automatically strengthen. This also happened in El Salvador.
This could be a big breakthrough for the property business in Argentina and even in other countries. If this happened in my country, I would rent it out my house and accept payments via bitcoin or other secure cryptocurrencies.
407  Economy / Economics / Re: The world's logic favours income makers, not the savers on: January 29, 2024, 02:18:17 PM
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Moral of the story: don't save money for more than one month. As soon as you accumulated some amount of fiat, put it into an investment and make it generate passive income for you, although you should avoid banking investments, since they usually pay below the inflation. Go for Bitcoin and assets when there isn't enough money to invest in something bigger. There is no assurance you will defeat the evil rigged system which smash common citizens, but at least you will be trying to overcome it...

The moral message you convey really gives me new knowledge, especially in the principles of saving, everything you say on this topic is correct, not wrong, because in reality saving for decades has no use at all for long-term life. However, if you invest the money you have instead of saving, then the opportunity to be financially free in the future is quite large, everyone must be aware of investing, don't let yourself be busy saving but the value of the money you have continues to decrease because of inflation.
408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 28, 2024, 11:58:50 PM
today inter won against fiorentina, what a great assist made by asllani, martinez also made perfect use of the assist.

If Inter will win next week to the serie A will be over.

Next week we will have Inter Juventus

Inter have only played 21 matches while Juventus have played 22 matches and Inter's points are currently 54 while Juventus are 43, so for example, if Inter loses the match against Juventus next week, Inter's chances of remaining in 1st place are still big. But I'm sure Inter will play very carefully in this match, a draw is still good for them while for Juventus they will try hard to win against Inter, they are very ambitious of being in 1st place.

Salernitana will face Roma tomorrow, in this match Roma must be able to win so they can shift Bologna's position, currently Salernitana is at the bottom of the standings, it would be really embarrassing if Roma lost to them.
409  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 28, 2024, 11:45:43 PM
Seeing Leverkusen fail to secure a win against Gladbach is actually starting to indicate a decline in their level of goal productivity and it is quite worrying if next week they still fail to win. Bayern Munich seems to have received advice to win the Bundesliga again if the best scenario is through less than optimal results achieved by Leverkusen. We definitely remember last season where Bayern Munich got lucky when Dortmund was almost certain to win the title and what I'm afraid of is if this season happens again and Leverkusen becomes a stepping stone for Bayern Munich to lift the title.

Even though they were held to a 0-0 draw by Monchengladbach, Leverkusen's performance was not bad, based on the match statistics they were successful in getting 75% ball possession and 9 shots on goal. Their rivalry with Bayern is also expected to be long but the results that Leverkusen got are much better than those of Bayern, Leverkusen is still unbeaten and that is a brilliant record, I am optimistic that Leverkusen will become Bundesliga champions this season.

Dortmund won 3-1 over Bochum, from the start this was not a tough match for Dortmund, Fullkrug managed to score a hat trick, his performance was amazing.
410  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 28, 2024, 11:32:50 PM
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I was surprised to hear this. Kloop has just turned 56, he still has a long career in football as a coach. It seems that he is tired, so he made a statement about wanting to quit after the end of this season. Kloop is not bad, for more than 8 years he has given 7 titles including EPL and UCL. There is no news where he is going, but I read on social media that he will not go to a club or country this year. There are rumors that several names such as Mourinho, Unai Emre, Gerrad and even Xabi Alonso are candidates to replace Kloop.

Yes, I also heard this news, but will Liverpool easily get Xabi Alonso's services, because from the news I have read, there are many big clubs who want Alonso in their team, especially Chelsea and Manchester United.
Gerrard is not a competent candidate for a coach to handle a team like Liverpool, I also doubt that Mourinho will be able to handle Liverpool. The next person who is competent enough to be Liverpool's coach in my opinion is Unai Emery.
Everyone must respect Klopp's decision, reportedly he has the potential to become the coach of the German national team.
411  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Playing crypto for many years without holding Bitcoin. on: January 28, 2024, 11:13:27 PM
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But he doesn't hold any Bitcoin.

The sister graduates without even enrolling.

The experienced crypto guy with years of learning still hasn't graduated.

He always tells himself the familiar phrase, "Wait for the right time..."

And the sister? She doesn't talk much; she just bought 1 BTC. Let those guys' bodies lie where they fall.

Don't be like that young guy...

traders are very different from investors and from your story I see that the brother is an active trader while the sister is an investor or holder, but the biggest mistake of the brother is that he doesn't have bitcoin at all, if he only focuses on shitcoins but doesn't focus on build the stability of its assets by investing in bitcoin
out there there are many cases like those brother, they don't have bitcoin to hold, they only focus on trying to trade with bitcoin, portfolio diversification is very important, never just focus on one crypto asset, invest in more than 3 or 4 more crypto assets OK, and the most important thing is never miss Bitcoin.
412  Economy / Economics / Re: How to stay poor! on: January 28, 2024, 10:55:44 PM
Say that to women to get a better replies. Tongue

They will says:
1. Well, that's my life why you need to judge me, mind your own business.
2. Men always like pretty girl, I want to become a pretty girl, that's why my maintenance costs e.g. skincare, nice outfit, nice car are high.
3. You only live once, no one know how long you will life, just enjoy your life.
etc.
This one is good, and it made me laugh cause we know that some or most of the woman would totally answer it that way.
I also get that they want to look good and all spend on beauty products skin care, but if it is too expensive for their income then might as well think about other options.

Actually, you don't need to ridicule women like this, they have the right to be beautiful by buying skin care and branded clothes with their own money, and when they have husbands, their husbands are the ones who have the obligation to beautify their wives (if women are not beautiful then men will cheat)
beauty costs money, in fact every man is obliged to spend money to make their partner happy, because it is a man's responsibility, don't think that when you pay for your partner that you will fall into poverty, don't be too stingy, you as a man will not fall into extreme poverty, increase your income then your partner will be happy with you Grin
413  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Use your winning responsibly on: January 28, 2024, 10:43:12 PM
Using the money from gambling winnings for important things is wise, there have been many gambling winners who have fallen into poverty because they didn't use the money from their gambling winnings for something that built their wealth when they won gambling, they instead squandered the money so they ended up returning life is difficult when the money runs out.
I once won up to $400 in gambling, I used the money to buy a new smartphone which had higher specifications than my old smartphone, I used the smartphone for my daily activities and it really helped me use the money from my gambling winnings for important things.
414  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 28, 2024, 10:24:57 PM
I might think that Girona strength will really be tested in the next 3 matches because Girona will face Real Sociedad, Real Madrid and Bilbao where this team is the top team which might make it difficult for Girona to continue their winning trend. Of course, the big match is the Real Madrid vs Girona meeting which will take place at Madrid home ground. I am amazed by the strong strength that Girona has this season because they are very well organized in the way they play when facing strong teams. Their defense is strong enough to make it difficult for their opponents to score goals against them.

However, if Girona manages to get through the next 3 matches by winning then I will favor Girona as the team at the forefront to win the trophy this season. Barcelona has withdrawn from the competition for the trophy because it is far behind Girona. For this reason, it would be big history for Laliga if a team other than Barcelona and Real Madrid managed to win the trophy in this season. I think they will focus with their best strength to stay at the top of the standings by successfully defeating their opponents in the next match.

Who would have thought, Girona's journey so far has been very smooth, they were able to win easily against a team that could be said to be quite tough when facing Celtic last time, they performed well, Girona's defense also looked solid.

For Barcelona, this season they don't seem to have a chance to win the title. To be honest, I'm disappointed with Barcelona because they were beaten 5-3 by Villareal. xavi must be able to provide new energy for the barcelona squad if he is not able to, it is likely that his future at barceloan will be short.
415  Other / Off-topic / Re: Having a regular/steady income is important as a gambler. on: January 28, 2024, 09:57:46 PM
Gambling though is a risky game that the chances of winning and losing is in equilibrium but however in other for one to have a possibility of winning, it requires a steady income.

 Having a steady and regular income is very important as a gambler because it would enable you to scrap out money you should use for gambling, feeding, taking care of yourself and family and other miscellaneous.

A gambler who has a steady and regular income can have the possibility of winning because his gambling habit can not affect his personal obligations as a man even if he's an addict because being addicted to gambling doesn't actually implies that one will eventually stake all his money on bets but rather someone who plays gambling frequently. By having a steady income, he can take care of other life responsibilities without being affected by his gambling activities and moreover, someone who have a stable income can be aiming to win higher amount in his bets and might be lucky of winning one day and use the money to establish an investment.

Your thoughts on this

A gambler who does not have a stable income will only end up committing crimes and there have been many criminal cases committed by gambling addicts because they do not have the capital to play gambling.
For this reason, keep an eye on the people closest to you, and try to advise those who gamble but don't have a job or income because it could be that you or other family members will become victims of crimes committed by unemployed gamblers.
for an unemployed person, it's better if you don't try gambling, your thinking is wrong, gambling is not the best and fastest way to make money.
416  Economy / Economics / Re: The productive capacities of an individual to the society. on: January 28, 2024, 09:29:18 PM
Financial and economical capacity that is potentialed to enhance the society or regional welfares of the masses is primarily weighed by the individual capacities with the proportionalities dependencies of the individuals and the governments awareness, concerns and contributions to   possibly achieved a stable and reliable productive economy prides.

It is true that the regulatory and economy optimization is the responsibility of the government but a fascinating economic infrastructures is more sufficient if individuals is inspired with the credibilities of what to the for the masses (government) and not relentedly relying on what the masses (government) would do for them.
This is also a call security being responsibilities of everyone individuals and not giving it all up to the governments.

Personally, I am inspired with an utmost believe that the ability to accumulate the energy and knowledges to achieve a goal is aspired by when an individual is independently reliable to itself without the reliances of hoping on someone else even though there is a reputable. The essence is that you stays mindedly and focus with the agilities to reach out to your goals and targets.

That's right, your success actually depends on your own abilities, not because of the goodness of your government, it's just that the role of government is also very important for a person's success, access to education and good health can make a person's chances of success greater, besides that, infrastructure will also boost economic growth. which makes a person's chances of success in running a business greater.
The conclusion in my opinion is that a person's ability and also the role of the government have a fairly balanced portion in boosting a person's success and the role of parents is also important.
417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 28, 2024, 11:53:39 AM
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Benzema is not a star in the Saudi Professional League. He is 7th in the goal scorer list and he wants to leave the league if that is true. But I don't think he is still a considered a star like he was one when he left Europe. If a FIFA world player comes to a weak league like the Saudi Professional League, I think that the fans expect more from a striker like him than he is doing for Al-Ittihad.

Why isn't he a star? Benzema is still a world star either way. The fact that he's not performing in the league right now certainly has to do with the fact that he doesn't feel comfortable. He's already said that several times now and is desperate to leave. Perhaps he is also too old to play at the highest level. Real wouldn't have let him go if they were still fully convinced of him.

Benzema is not a striker who has pure talent, at Real Madrid he is supported by the world's best central midfielder while in the Arab League, the team he plays for does not have such resources.
The current issue is that Manchester United continues to be linked with Benzema, and I really agree with him being there, temporarily as a loan player, I support it if that happens.
Benzema will definitely be successful at Manchester United until his retirement, Manchester United has a pretty good midfielder but if he returns to Madrid, I am 100% sure that will never happen.
418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 27, 2024, 06:21:09 PM
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For Klopp, this will be a trademark to his name and the team will never forget him whilst the premier league will also see him as a great icon to have badged two trophies after he has announced to leave the club, that will be the best way to leave your name back in a club.

From the Europa League competition they are currently participating in, they are amongst the team with the higher probability of winning it. In the premier league also, they are still maintaining the top of the table which they look very good and can’t be easily defeated and removed from that position to the second place.

Klopp has an opportunity to add to his trophies before he leaves by end of the season, I don’t doubt his ability, but it won’t be an easy one for him since it has to do with two big competitions in the European football.

Jurgen Klopp left Liverpool at a time when Liverpool was at the top of the standings and I saw that it was a very unexpected decision (even though he has coached Liverpool since the 2015/16 season) I didn't expect him not to wait until this season was over, reportedly Moh Salah will follow in his footsteps leaving Liverpool, this is really a hard blow for liverpool. but the reason for resigning from Liverpool in my opinion is still unclear, I read in the online news about him running out of energy, what he really meant.
There is little chance that Liverpool will be able to get another coach like Klopp, he is a professional saint and is able to give Liverpool the best.

419  Economy / Economics / Re: Save while young better than wait on: January 27, 2024, 09:22:05 AM
Look, you can be old and rich or young an poor, but being old and poor is bad shit.

A surefire way of doing the wrong kind of things is to spend your money early or try to live a good life quickly without thinking about the future. Or if you have an ok job or income to think that is enough, even if you cannot save.

All young people, understand that time an money are linked. It is not the same to invest early than late, it is not the same  to invest more early that try to invest more later. 100 is worth 100 today, but 800 in 20 years if you play it safe but well. Make no mistake, you will need to start creating your wealth.

I once argued with a young person who said that youth should not take life too seriously, just enjoy it, give yourself self-reward with spree, when he said that I could only mutter to myself "he will definitely fall very poor when he get old".
what you say is all true, that the discipline towards money that we do from a young age will be connected until we are old, so don't let the extravagance we make in youth have a bad impact in old age, there are many examples of people who are old and poor  but when they are young they have a lot of money and potential.
420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: January 27, 2024, 05:06:48 AM
Addiction to gambling is not a problem for some gamblers because there are some gamblers who are addicted to gambling, but it doesn't affect the other activities of their life. They take care of their families, wear good clothes, smell nice, meet up with appointments but still cannot control the urge to gamble. It doesn't affect their life because they can afford to gamble and manage the loses they make. So, to these people addiction is not a problem. They are addicts, but because they are successful, their addiction is ignored or excused as it is not a problem.
So I am need to know, is addiction only bad when it is a problem?


More or less like that, addiction is a bad thing if your life is damaged, but if the addiction doesn't disrupt your life then it's not a bad thing because you can manage it so it's not something that has a bad impact on your life.
For this reason, it is very important for every active gambling player to continue to evaluate the gambling activities they carry out, because there are many rich people whose lives have been ruined due to their gambling addiction, which is quite worrying.
set your gambling budget - set your gambling time - use money you can afford to lose, this is good advice that every active gambling player must follow.
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