Like a say, prob the dark hacker come from eth team.
Just realise and think. they create TheDAO, and this is hacked, bit the "good hacker" bring back the coins, but just a part of them.
I think this DAO hack, and the FORK just happen for a big play to stole money!
i just wish some law enforcement would have a look at it. the whole situation does not look good. the dao the hack the fork , and no report to law enforcement, gosh if you dont report you are helping the thief. in my country they for sure would have to answer some very unpleasant questions. i wonder how that is in swiss ? they foundation is lokated in swiss . a hack is a internet crime and i think i heard there is a inernational conected crime force for interent crime . |
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so alex now wasnt part of it hmmm did he lie then or does he lie now ? but ALEX you know there names. tell the names of the white hat attackers. you say they are honorable people then it will be no problem to come forwart and show faces. |
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  Where's the update on the 8M ETC you are holding, Alex?They're stealing that from their own eth comrades yes thats exactly what it looks like |
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yes what now ? i searched but no statement ! why ? |
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If they don't then they are black hats themselves. +1 if you just +1 the mod delete you post |
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Dude...just roll it back...actually, since the big foundation here got a bunch of free etc and millions of dollars selling the premine how about stepping up and bailing them out the right way without controlling the blockchain? These are the questions and warning signs you all should be asking and paying attention to. They have alot of free etc, they're going to keep it for themselves? LOL!!! Like I said earlier, good game.
Not really, All the hackers now know that stealing BTC can be profitable from sites. And, now they know stealing Ethereum from sites is pointless and a waste of their time! You would call this a WIN for the Ethereum Foundation. Which Ethereum "sites" are you talking about? Yelp, the safest thing to own and have on a exchange today is:
"The DAO" tokens.
28 day time lag for transactions to be updated onto the ETH Blockchain!
Absolutely, pointless hacking an exchange to steal.
Then why wasn't this loss bailed out? https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4v0v9k/someone_just_split_from_the_dao_and_drained_it/unbelievebal. another colateral as they call it ? |
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If you support ETC then they are the rightful owners. Do you see the logic paradox you are within? Get Liquid! @Get_Liquid 2h2 hours ago
@Sinzfeldt Yeah it's fun dumping coins on people who have principles, blockchains are about making $$ fiat profits at all costs.
Scumbags like this is why this scene is quickly destroying itself. gosh how often does one have to explain this. ETc does not think theft is ok. ETc sais a chain shall never be rolled back for bailout. and the job of devs is not to make such a change. a hardfork is ok if there is a bug but not to reverse bad investment decitions. and for the theft. if black hat attack was theft the white hat attack is theft too. but i know for the ETH there is doublemoral and 2 sets of rules ok |
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I see your point and I am just thinking out loud... Right now we have 2 Ethereum's The HF and the Classic. The one right now that is second in line to BTC is the HF Ethereum. I am thinking if I am a new investor that does not know about all this drama and wants to invest he sees HF and Classic. He would be like whats up with this?? Which one do I use? blah blah looks unprofessional.. I don't know what the best thing to do but I don't want to see classic get slowly crushed by the HF.
We are not there yet but to get Classic up and going like HF already is will take some time to get organized. During this time everyone will just keep pounding heads saying that classic is dying and stay away from it.
I am not thinking it should be done now and hopefully never but if things get bad enough it might be best to re-brand the original but still keep all the same tools that HF uses. Let's hope it does not come to that. Time will tell.. If enough miners bail out then you can bet they will try the 51 percent attack again. The most important thing is we must keep people on board and interested. What ever it takes.
i think the name is good like it is. it is a permanent reminder of what happend. and every seriouse investor should get a hint there is a story behind this names. thats good i think the selling argument for etc is its immutablility beside its all the othere ether has too. and sure there is still lots of work to do but for me its amazing how much was done in such a short time. i am still wow what a strong comunity congrats........ |
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Has nobody yet changed the thread title to "Welcome to the End"  the blueeyed leader already forgot this thread exists i guess ? |
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Dude...just roll it back...actually, since the big foundation here got a bunch of free etc and millions of dollars selling the premine how about stepping up and bailing them out the right way without controlling the blockchain? These are the questions and warning signs you all should be asking and paying attention to. They have alot of free etc, they're going to keep it for themselves? LOL!!! Like I said earlier, good game.
Not really, All the hackers now know that stealing BTC can be profitable from sites. And, now they know stealing Ethereum from sites is pointless and a waste of their time! You would call this a WIN for the Ethereum Foundation. a win for the ethereum foundation? couse the keep the stohlen back coins for themselfs? |
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It has all to do with it you dumbass, because DAO was like a hedge fund, but with NO insurance, no one guaranteed for the investment's safety as in, like " if something bad happens we'll give you our own money " . And the hardfork was only viable because of the 1month lockup period of the DAO funds, otherwise not even that would have been possible.
Being "meant to protect" is not the same as insured money, like if a bank gets robbed doesn't matter much because the money / deposits are insured.
Now that i destroyed your stupid arguments, tell us your mains account on this forum, how many do you have ?
i guess you have no clue of the situation. if a person says this black hat attack is theft . and they take that as a reason why they destroy integrity of ethereum prefork, it should use this moral standarts for the persons own movements and then the white attack was theft too and they shall return the ether in there to the holders of the dao. or the dao holders or one should do a police report. or start a crowdfunding in the threats i am sure they will suport it right now 7.5 millions of etc are in the ahnds of the ones that like etc to die . and if you say they got enough repay with the rollback well they should get there etc too like every other prefork eth holder. or are there 2 sets of eth holders for you ? they ones that shut up and the ones that are bullied becouse they dont shut up? |
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18 millions dollars isn't a joke....
IF DAO holders wanted to sue - they could put up a really good case and it would then tie alot of things into the mix about using a new chain with an old brand. . I will be surprised if a whale doesn;t sue eventually especially if ETC rises in value more.
I won't sue as i am not a whale in by any means.
However i do want whats rightfully mine and if you do to - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION
Well, then make up your mind. If you're not going to sue then your empty legal threats don't mean anything. Have you even talked to the van-de-something white hat guy or do you just get the kick out of stirring shit on the intertubes?
Me - Hi MR Sande - Did you notice you and your 'white hat' hacker team which you curated still owes DAO Investors over 18 million dollars. Van de - No it must of slipped my mind Me - Oh really, Gee, Thats why you and your chronies havn't updated anybody as to what your doing with the stolen DAO ETC. Van de - Yes, well alot of things slip my mind , especially when you work for Ethereum Me - Yes really tough remembering to update people when you work for Ethereum and the ETC & ETH case has been ongoing for the past month.  I mean its only a mere 7.2 million ETC- So will you give back the ETC? Van de -- Well no DAO investor has asked for it back untill now Me - Well look at the petition PLEASE SIGN THE PETITIONA lesson in how to make friends and influence people. Your attitude will always get closed doors. Get your money ready. The only way you'll get this ETC is in court. And I'll be supporting the defense all the way. A lesson in tying humour into a BS situation. I won't be in the court room, i'm too small fish to take further action on this but you can have fun supporting the defence if it comes to that. The purpose of this thread is to raise awareness as so far nobody has come forward with a statement or anything regarding the ETC ( and hopefully get some signatures) The amount of people on this thread who don't seem to understand that the DAO holders are the victims in this case is astounding. - They rather side with supposed 'white hat' hackers' who has shown no interest so far to return DAO holders rightfully owned stolen ETC. If they have - please post a link to this thread!
yes its unbelievebal what moral those eth fork suporters have. |
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If it's illegal then call the police. They are not obliged to give you anything. Ethereum also suffered loses because of the DAO, with it's value going to 50% of what it was. I don't ask for their money, do i ? You stupid fuck.
i guess you are right one of the DAO Holders should report to the police. i am certain they get there ETC back . |
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hat bitfinex irgendwas mit substanz veröffentlicht ?
adressen der gehackten wallets ?
die nummer des reports bei pilizei? damit man mal was nachprüfen kann?
ihr argument für den haircut ist ja, dass bei einem konkurs ja auch alle die zur zeit coins dort haben, haften und damit in die konkursmasse fallen.
Und sie daher auch mit einem 36% cut rechnen müssen.
Jetzt wäre es natürlich nett und fair
die zahlen offenzulegen. Gibts da was ?
nichts konkretes, bisher. wundert aber auch nicht mehr bei der vergangenheit vom gründer. https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitfinexs-ceo-seemingly-tried-start-ponzi-scheme/die wollen weitermachen wie bisher und die folgen ihrer inkompetenz (oder kriminellen energie bei einem inside job) an alle kunden durchreichen. EDIT: was sagt ihr zum kurs? geht der nochmal runter kurzfristig oder deckt man sich lieber weiter ein? o mein gott ein pyramiden spieler lol |
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Why post that on this ANN, there is ANN for the DAO. Why do so many people keep posting stuff on Ethereum ANN, about ETC? beouse its a free world ? the title is "welcome to the beginning" not welcome to all that agree with every thing we do I'm just curious, are you ever going to post something useful to the Ethereum Foundation's supported ETH? hmm is that the key to be alowed here ? to post something useful for the ethereum foundation? hmmm doesnt say it in the title . and like i said the title is not Welcome only if you agree with us. or it does not say elite memebers only or it does not say promotion threat for etH or no ETC holders wanted. or stay out of here if you have a brain and use it. |
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Meine Gedanken.
Der Kurs steigt, weil so langsam allgemein klar ist, dass Bitcoin nicht Gox oder Finex ist.
Der Kurs steigt bei Bitstamp und BTC-e weil dort wirklich die Nachfrage den Preis treibt. Und der Preis hinkt bei OKCoin und Houbi nur nach, weil dort nur das HebelTradeCasino ist.
ja so seh ich das auch seit dem kleinen setback nach der bitfinex news ist er schon wieder am langsam steigen. wenn er langsam steigt hab ich das beste gefühl damit. schnelle anstiege sind mir immer suspekt. ist aber alles nur bauchgefühl bin aber so weit gut damit gefahren |
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Why post that on this ANN, there is ANN for the DAO. Why do so many people keep posting stuff on Ethereum ANN, about ETC? beouse its a free world ? the title is "welcome to the beginning" not welcome to all that agree with every thing we do |
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its just a fair demand i would say. the white hat attackerrs never intendet to keep that etc or they would be as criminal as the black hat attacker in there own perspectiv ? |
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