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401  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: UPDATED! [Live-Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter *11 Sold [Selling #12] on: July 09, 2013, 04:26:45 PM
I like the way you're doing it ragingazn628. Thanks for the hard work!

Yeah it's much better to be organized now and save a lot of headaches for everyone Smiley would be very clear and organize for when I do bi-weekly dividends as well!
402  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 09, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
Cheers, no worries got a bit panicky when they weren't there  :s

No problem my fault. I am making a google docs spreadsheet right now. It has auto save Smiley

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah5wT_NTrV00dDBSZmVaMDBjR1lrc3piNlNQRTkwQUE&usp=sharing
403  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 09, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
I'm going to start using Google Docs now like I did with the Avalon Chips GB. I don't know why I didn't in the first place. It would have saved so much trouble and headaches Sad - In fact I'm going to spend the entire day backtracking every single payment and updating them on google docs with proof of payment etc.

If you think I am wrong or missed you on these lists please correct me asap!

Also if you would like to speak to me directly via VOIP with any regards or concerns please call my google voice: 860-631-7775 or my skype: vodkawow

Jupiter #1 has been paid!

1st KnC Jupiter:
Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
floatyfish - .55 BTC - 1 Share
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 6 Shares (6 on #1 Jup 4 on #2 Jup)

143 / 143

Jupiter #2:

mightycount $500 PP - 4 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - 1.6 BTC - 2 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share
2400baud - $100 PP - 2 Shares

11 / 143

404  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 09, 2013, 02:39:35 PM
I don't understand. This happened more than once. I would save the post but it wouldn't save. That's what causing the problems. Either that or I have some serious ADD and forget to press save Sad

This should be good. Ok so we will do first come first serve. We will merge the Saturn and Jupiter together. If you want your Saturn share to go to Jupiter please let me know! If not let me know your decision for a refund. There are more shares when combined so those who paid first gets put on the list first.

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
floatyfish - .55 BTC - 1 Share
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares


FROM SATURN MERGED TO JUPITER!
Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - .7 BTC - 1 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share


Total:
 
154 / 143 Shares

Can you go ahead and order it, then choose random people to refund?  I just want to get it ordered...

Also, I'm in CT, so I'd be glad to sign an NDA (or since I'm <18, have my mom sign an NDA) and visit the machine / take pictures! 

Already paid. I will be sorting out who will be on Jupiter 2. I think it is fair to put the later payments on Jupiter 2 no? First come first serve basis. Those who paid first will be on this Jupiter.

I don't understand. This happened more than once. I would save the post but it wouldn't save. That's what causing the problems. Either that or I have some serious ADD and forget to press save Sad

This should be good. Ok so we will do first come first serve. We will merge the Saturn and Jupiter together. If you want your Saturn share to go to Jupiter please let me know! If not let me know your decision for a refund. There are more shares when combined so those who paid first gets put on the list first.

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
floatyfish - .55 BTC - 1 Share
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares


FROM SATURN MERGED TO JUPITER!
Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - .7 BTC - 1 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share


Total:
 
152 / 143 Shares

Can we finish up Saturn please guys? Either finish it or move all to Jupiter ;p - First round of BBQ party today!

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
floatyfish - .55 btc - 1 Share
wolfskill - .55 btc - 1 Share
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
George900 - .55 - 1 Share

Also check out the super burger patties I made for today!



Sorry to be a pain but why have my 2 shares disappeared?

Sorry about that fixed it for you. Might be forum error or I didn't press save on the original post.


1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
floatyfish - .55 BTC - 1 Share
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares


FROM SATURN MERGED TO JUPITER!
Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - .7 BTC - 1 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share


Total:
 
154 / 143 Shares

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Sorting through payments now. I have to backtrack everything now to make sure it's fair for everyone Smiley Please be patient - Without further a due let the 2nd Jupiter begin!

NO MORE SATURNS!

I already warned you guys about this lol Tongue

Can you share pictures of the data center that you are setting up?

It will be hosted in my basement. It's being renovated right now. Once everything is completed I will show some pictures Smiley

hi guys, can you enlighten me up:

0.9 btc = 1 share = 2.8 ghash/s

143 shares total for jupiter

total btc per jupiter miner = 143 * 0.9 = 128.7 btc
total cost per jupiter = 128.7 * 75 usd/btc = 9652 usd

isn't the amount 9652 usd relatively high?


guys, enlighten me up.  i'm interested to buy more knc miner shares.  thanks!


It varies day by day. Mark my words extras will be adjusted / refunded. And I have not even counted custom fees yet (if there is one ...) I will know from my Avalon Chips Group Buy on customs regulations etc.
405  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 07, 2013, 06:08:23 PM
I don't understand. This happened more than once. I would save the post but it wouldn't save. That's what causing the problems. Either that or I have some serious ADD and forget to press save Sad

This should be good. Ok so we will do first come first serve. We will merge the Saturn and Jupiter together. If you want your Saturn share to go to Jupiter please let me know! If not let me know your decision for a refund. There are more shares when combined so those who paid first gets put on the list first.

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
floatyfish - .55 BTC - 1 Share
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares


FROM SATURN MERGED TO JUPITER!
Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - .7 BTC - 1 Share
m_yaw - .6 BTC - 1 Share


Total:
 
152 / 143 Shares
406  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 07, 2013, 06:02:47 PM
I'll take the remaining 7.

sorry miscalculations fixing now.
407  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 07, 2013, 05:58:21 PM
Everything should be fixed. As per request I have merged Saturn with Jupiter. I think this is a no brainer because you will be getting more bang for your buck!

Also please excuse my tardiness. I have so much going on right now it's not even funny lol. I'm trying to get the 900 SQFT room ready for these machines. We need to do sheetrock / ceilings and put in good electrical for good AMPs for these babies Smiley


fixing.
408  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 07, 2013, 05:51:21 PM
@ragingazn628:
Looks like my last transaction is not yet included in Saturn 11.

Message:
Quote

Sig:
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GzIxD+LvnaflLLxCb/ciRSnBFf5NXIcl+/x4GsEMa0hB/+1mlLl9pGA3XOKXKsDmlKEnOvVgiH4pOqO6v48AEZ4=

fixed sorry it's been really crazy here the last few days



Can i suggest one thing?

Those who are in 11th saturn could move to 1st Jupiter so this one can close and all the company could benefit from an upgrade to the hashrate.

Don't know if this is complicated. According to my claculations all saturn shares into jupiter would exceed 8 shares. In this case the first 143 shares (saturn/jupiter together) would close the order.

What do you think?


I second this!


How much is a Jupiter share, now ? .5, .7, .9 ?

.9 BTC per share for either Saturn or Jupiter now... crazy BTC drop.


Hi ragingazn628,

When was the Jupiter purchased?  Will it be hosted in a data center, a storage facility, or.. your home? Smiley

If I ever visit from NJ, will I need a visitor's badge to see it? Smiley


Jupiter has been put in order but NOT purchased yet. We need to fill the requirements so I can go ahead and purchase it.

Due to recent theft of crazyblane's Avalon ASIC I would probably require an NDA requirement so you will not disclose the locations of the machines for security reasons of share owners and also your identifications.



409  Bitcoin / Hardware / Got some information on KnC on: July 05, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Hey also I got a friend who just moved back to Sweeden dig up some stuff on KnC... check it out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?gl8l3xneto0994t

Thoughts?
410  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 05, 2013, 07:18:15 PM
Hey also I got a friend who just moved back to Sweeden dig up some stuff on KnC... check it out:

http://www.mediafire.com/?gl8l3xneto0994t
411  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 05, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
I sent you a PM about my share on the jupiter. Could you please confirm that you got my payment (and that everything else is okay)?


yup I marked you already Smiley


finally, sent you my payment for 1 share (saturn 11), please feel free to move to jupiter, I'm totally okay with that.

07c9a0639663f79259c512af801886bbef2527bfce02f9f20515d7303563e634



Shares are no longer .5 BTC each Sad they are .9 BTC due to drop in BTC prices!


Would you like me to return the .5 or can you send more?


Quote
Shares for KnCMiner Saturn

https://www.kncminer.com/products/saturn

.7 BTC - Minimum
.7 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$80)
1 Share = 2.56Gh/s
78 Shares total

Shares for KnCMiner Jupiter

https://www.kncminer.com/products/jupiter

.7 BTC - Minimum
.7 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$100 )
1 Share = 2.80Gh/s
143 Shares total
How can it be about 100USD for .7 BTC for the jupiter shares and 80USD for 0.7 BTC for the saturn shares?

If i buy some shares of the Jupiter, when will the payouts begin? September?
That figure in USD you see isn't the price. It's the current exchange rate for BTC. When BTC was going for $100, we could get a share for .5BTC (equivalent to $50). Now they're being sold at .7BTC, because if they were kept at .5 the organizer would only be getting $35 out of each share, not enough to pay for the machines. The price has to be normalized to $50 per share to be able to pay for the machines.

Also, the figure for the Jupiter looks like a typo.


Yeah I know. What a headache. I wished they just stable around ~$100 to make everyone's lives easier.


Quote
Shares for KnCMiner Saturn

https://www.kncminer.com/products/saturn

.7 BTC - Minimum
.7 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$80)
1 Share = 2.56Gh/s
78 Shares total

Shares for KnCMiner Jupiter

https://www.kncminer.com/products/jupiter

.7 BTC - Minimum
.7 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$100 )
1 Share = 2.80Gh/s
143 Shares total
How can it be about 100USD for .7 BTC for the jupiter shares and 80USD for 0.7 BTC for the saturn shares?

If i buy some shares of the Jupiter, when will the payouts begin? September?


typo / forgot to edit.

KnC Said they will start shipping Sept / OCT

Jupiter 400GH/s Shares:

Code:
1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
czspeedycz - 3 BTC - 5 Shares

Total:
 
70 / 143 Shares
[/quote]

There is some miscalculation here. The sum is 75 shares with me. Also I am on this list, but the one on the first page is without me Smiley

fixed sorry
About mining company. Honestly I don't think .100 mh/s will matter much unless you have like 20+ shares BUT

We can probably use this formula:

Saturn Share = 2.56 Gh/s / Total Speed

Jupiter Share = 2.80 Gh/s / Total Speed

Profit for Saturn Shareholders:

(BTC Mined bi-weekly)*(Saturn Share)

Profit for Jupiter Shareholders:

(BTC Mined bi-weekly)*(Jupiter Share)

So let's say the total speed is 3000 Gh/s.

I have 10 shares of Saturn and my friend has 10 shares of Jupiter.

The total BTC mined bi-weekly is 400 BTC.

So:

My cut:
400 * ( 25.6 / 3000) = 3.413 BTC payout.

Friend's cut:

400 * (28.0 / 3000) = 3.733 BTC payout.

Does this make sense?

Also let's say machine 1 and 2 are down for due to fail power supplies or something, those people who are shareholders for those machines will NOT be calculated with the rest of the share holders so it's fair. So IF the machines are down for 2 weeks and it's time to cash out the total speed would become 2600 Gh/s and only the current running machines will be paid.

What do you guys think?

BTW Happy July 4th tomorrow!
That's... not a mining company at all.

Basically, my problem is I don't see why people who bought in later should be able to get more hashes for less money. Even in your example, the people on the Jupiters earn an extra ~$20 per week, without paying any more. And having people totally left in the cold if their machines stop working at absolutely no fault of their own... that's just bad.

Incorporate it as a proper mining company, with each share being equal. It's easier to account for, and fairer for everybody.

So... the whole idea of making a mining company is so that we do no need to track each machine separately.  Once we figure out all the shares - then the total div is just the coin generated by the number of shares (less expenses).  No need to track which machine is off line etc.

Like I said, you guys can decide and I am open up to whichever. I bought in on Saturn so if we do it separate I would be getting 2.56 gh/s per share but if you do it that method then I would get 2.60 gh/s

ALSO can we PLEASE PLEASE! Finish up saturn or should I move everyone to jupiter? I really don't see the point of 11th Saturn anymore :/


11th KnC Saturn:

Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares
jongaper - .7 BTC - 1 Share



Total:
 64 / 78 Shares[/code]

Jupiter 400GH/s Shares:

[code]
1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
piecinitup - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
Gyu - $500 PP - 10 Shares
czspeedycz - 3BTC - 5 Shares



Total:
 
87 / 143 Shares

412  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 05, 2013, 06:02:13 PM
Going through PMs and replies now guys hang on Wink

crazy 4th of July indeed!
413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 03, 2013, 04:02:39 PM
Also can we please finish up Saturn? I would like to either finish it ASAP or I will have to move them all to Jupiter. I already knew this was going to happen if we split it Tongue I told you guys from a few posts back lol
414  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 03, 2013, 03:50:52 PM
11th KnC Saturn:

Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share
Fantazygirl  - $200 PP - 4 Shares

Total:
 63 / 78 Shares[/code]

Jupiter 400GH/s Shares:

[code]
1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $600 - 12 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
gtdevo - 6.6 BTC - 11 Shares
sealight - 3 BTC - 5 Shares
Faerbit - .6 BTC - 1 Share
lajz99 - $100 PP - 2 Shares
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
czspeedycz - 3 BTC - 5 Shares

Total:
 
70 / 143 Shares

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About mining company. Honestly I don't think .100 mh/s will matter much unless you have like 20+ shares BUT

We can probably use this formula:

Saturn Share = 2.56 Gh/s / Total Speed

Jupiter Share = 2.80 Gh/s / Total Speed

Profit for Saturn Shareholders:

(BTC Mined bi-weekly)*(Saturn Share)

Profit for Jupiter Shareholders:

(BTC Mined bi-weekly)*(Jupiter Share)

So let's say the total speed is 3000 Gh/s.

I have 10 shares of Saturn and my friend has 10 shares of Jupiter.

The total BTC mined bi-weekly is 400 BTC.

So:

My cut:
400 * ( 25.6 / 3000) = 3.413 BTC payout.

Friend's cut:

400 * (28.0 / 3000) = 3.733 BTC payout.

Does this make sense?

Also let's say machine 1 and 2 are down for due to fail power supplies or something, those people who are shareholders for those machines will NOT be calculated with the rest of the share holders so it's fair. So IF the machines are down for 2 weeks and it's time to cash out the total speed would become 2600 Gh/s and only the current running machines will be paid.

What do you guys think?

BTW Happy July 4th tomorrow!
415  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: July 01, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
Hey guys I just called Gary and he said the reason why the sample chips are stuck in customs is because Avalon put the value for them at $3 and we were just unlucky and were part of their random check. He also said Avalon should not just put them as "IC Chips" and so that's why customs thought it was fishy. I told him that they were basically un-programmed ASIC Chips and he said that's what he needs to clear with customs. So it should be cleared by tomorrow.
416  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: July 01, 2013, 08:13:07 PM
Can we finish up Saturn please guys? Either finish it or move all to Jupiter ;p - First round of BBQ party today!

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
floatyfish - .55 btc - 1 Share
wolfskill - .55 btc - 1 Share
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
George900 - .55 - 1 Share

Also check out the super burger patties I made for today!

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Heh.  Are you selling shares for paypal?  If so, for how much?

$50 a share

We all seem to be in agreement of incorporating it into a mining company, so why are people being moved to Jupiters? They'd still get those hashes when the Jupiters are incorporated into the company, but they'd just have to wait even longer to have a stake because they're on one of the last machines.

Basically, if the people on Saturn 11 stay there, they'll be getting ~2.5Gh/s per share once the 11th Saturn comes in, then ~2.7Gh/s (or whatever the total value with the Jupiter included) once the Jupiter arrives.
If they move to the Jupiters, they'll get nothing until the Jupiter comes in, then ~2.7Gh/s afterwards.

tldr people moving to Jupiters are losing out if this is to become a mining company.


Well let's say machine #1-3 comes first but the others haven't only people who paid for those shares are getting profit.

If we have 10 Saturns and 10 Jupiter then payouts would still be based on the hash rate which is 2.56 GH/s for Saturn and 2.80 GH/s for Jupiter NOT total X share of Total X Share

or we can do something like weighted share where 2.56 gh/s = 1 share and 2.8Gh/s would = 1.1 Share (this is just an example)

Hmm now I´m confused.. Can you please update the list of Saturn 11 now as well when some have changed from Saturn to Jupiter. Easier to follow then. Thanks!  Smiley


11th KnC Saturn:

Xeen - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
pickymeek - .5 BTC - 1 Share
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
juula - 10 BTC - 20 Shares
samos123 - 2 BTC - 4 Shares
annoEleni - $400 PP - 8 Shares - FB
jamesc760 - .5 BTC - 1 Share - reserved
annoJBerglund - $100 PP - 2 Shares
wolfskill - 1 BTC - 2 Shares
EsDva - 4 BTC - 8 Shares
mightycount $500 PP - 10 Shares
Bamdad - .55 BTC - 1 Share


Total:
 64 / 78 Shares

can we please finish this up guys!

Also since BTC prices are going down please send BTC accordingly ... I think I need to raise it up to .6 BTC per share now paypal would be good just $50 a share.

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
riclas - 10.45 - 19 Shares
Colgate - $400 - 8 Shares
Paranoia - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares


Total:
 
42 / 143 Shares
417  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED! on: June 30, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
Did the developer chips get sent out or picked up yet?

Also can you please email back everyone who has confirmed their shipping addresses so we know you have received them Ragin. Thanks.



I'm calling Gary again on Monday to see what's going on. Last time we talked they were in customs.
418  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: June 29, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
Can we finish up Saturn please guys? Either finish it or move all to Jupiter ;p - First round of BBQ party today!

1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share
floatyfish - .55 btc - 1 Share
wolfskill - .55 btc - 1 Share
physalis -2.5 BTC - 5 Shares
colonelsanders99 - 1.1 BTC - 2 Shares
George900 - .55 - 1 Share

Also check out the super burger patties I made for today!

419  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: June 28, 2013, 09:12:09 PM
Confirming once again to move my 3 shares to Jupiter.

If is to consider this as a company, wich i agree, the total number of shares should be 78*x "saturn" + 143*y "jupiter", where x and y are the number of machines.
If not, this would low the Hashrate.

That's what i think...


Yes agreed. We'll figure it out no worries.
420  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [Live - Group Buy].5BTC = 2.8Gh/s KNCminer Jupiter/Saturn *10 Sold [Selling #11] on: June 28, 2013, 09:11:13 PM
1st KnC Jupiter:
reactor - 2.2 BTC - 4 Shares
COINPRADER - .5 BTC - 1 Share
helloge 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
ezisdog - 1.5 BTC - 3 Shares
danieldaniel - .55 BTC - 1 Share
George900 - .55 BTC - 1 Share

Total:
 13 / 143 Shares
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