@Spendulus, Mt. Olympus is located just above Polaris (north star) and I suspect they have modern facilities available.
Next question.
Yeah, you always suspect a lot of shit, like titans and other insane ''theories''. I mean you literally believe in Titans because there are a few rocks here and there that kind of look like a big foot or a hand, how stupid can someone be, really? |
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We can't see pain, but we can measure it, test it, feel it. Just like oxygen or anything else that we can't see. There is still plenty of evidence of pain, not so much of god
How do you measure pain ? Where is the National Bureau of Standard's pain calibration reference ? Nope... pain is real, but it is purely subjective. This is why doctors & nurses have to ask patients, "on a scale of 1 to 10, how much pain do you feel ? There is no 'painometer' they can use, like there are thermometers, sphygmomanometers, weightometers (mass scales), pH meters, etc. As humans, we 'believe' in pain; or better put, we can 'believe' in the pain of others, so we know pain exists; because we know darn well we have felt it ourselves (on one occasion or another), but yet, there is no physical, objective way to measure pain. There are physical, objective ways to measure distance, mass and time, and ways to measure all the physical phenomena that can be described by interactions and combination of these 3 fundamentals; but pain ? ... no, it cannot be measured. Quote from: https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_painA widely accepted scientific definition of pain is that “Pain is an unpleasant sensory and emotional experience that is associated with actual or potential tissue damage or described in such terms.” A key feature of this definition is that it goes on to say, “pain is always subjective.” Why would you focus so much on that? We can still test pain, feel it and know how or why it works. We cant do ANY of that with god, whats your point here? It's a bid pedantic, granted, but unless you're rigorous with assumptions and definitions, you can't really reach valid conclusions. The demonstrably wrong statement that we can "measure pain" jumped out at me. At least we can't in a truly scientific way. We can only rely on the self-reported (aka, subjective) experience of an individual conscience of their "pain". Others believe that individual because pain is a relatively common experience, that "we" have all had a one time or another. In a way, that hints that there are may be parallels with an individual's experience of "god". Experiencing "god" is perhaps rarer, but no less subjective and un-measurable. How many people ''experience'' god? Do muslims experience their god? They certainly claim so, do christians experience their god? They also claim so, in fact all religious people from all different religions claim they experience their god, is that proof of god or proof against god? |
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First of all you have to prove there is such a thing as "outside the universe" which you have not. Second of all, you are the one claiming to know there is 1 single creatoe there, ask yourself the same question lmao, did you go there to find out? Your brain is fucked up.
Yes, people have to work together to create a car, so what? Are they not multiple people? If you and I work on a car, are we suddenly 1 person because we are working together? What kind of retarded logic are you using here?
How in the world goofy are you? Just because your body is made up of millions of parts, doesn't mean that there are a bunch of little Astargaths running around loose inside of you.  No but if you and I make a car, aren't we both the creators? Or do we suddenly become one? Answer the question, you and I, we both work on the design of a car and we start building it, who is the creator? Aren't we both the creators? |
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We will be laughing at you from Mars when elon musk finally makes it there. Might not be in the next few years but 10-20 for sure. |
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You have been unable to prove god created everything in the other thread so why do you keep claiming such thing? You still cannot prove there is only 1 creator and not multiple.
You have shown that you are unable to accept scientific proof, so you are locked in your own fanatic cult. You are a perfect example of the relationship between science and religion. Actually, i did you a BIG favor by accepting all your premises which are wrong, even after accepting all of them, they still dont prove a single god as shown in the other thread that you continuously ignore after slme time. You cant prove everything has a cause. You cant prove only more complex stuff can create less complex stuff. You cant prove there is 1 single creator and not multiple. You are such a funny guy. You accept all my wrong premises, but you won't accept science proof. And then you admit it. That's okay, though. Everybody needs a religion. Why won't you step up to a religion that's right? No, i said even after accepting all your premises as true, they still do not show a single creator. Because they actually point to multiple creators, specially complexity. No, you said: 1. All my premises are wrong;2. That you accepted them as true. Any joker who knows that there is something wrong, yet accepts it as true, really needs to have his head examined. Then, stating the obvious, that some wrong premises don't show something... Why would wrong premises show something? It's obvious that if there are some wrong premises, whatever they show is probably wrong, as well, right? I mean, I suppose there could be some wrong premises somewhere that accidentally show something right for some wrong reasons, or because of some misinterpretation, or by simple accident... but even talking about it without showing some reason, or detail, is goofier than the wrong premises. Any time you want to show us how you got into outside-the-universe to find out the number of creators, all you have to do is show us how you did it. Up until then, since all we can see about outside-the-universe is one O-T-U. We can't even tell if we would begin to understand anything about whatever it is that's out there, because we only think in universe mindsets. One of the biggest problems with complexity when creating things is working together. In the past I have used the example of people making a car. If they don't act as one, the pistons won't fit the cylinders. Some of the doors will be on backward or upside down. The wiring system won't hook to the battery, or will short the battery out when the connection is finally made. Since all we know about is one O-T-U, the best thinking would suggest that there is one creator. Otherwise the universe would never have worked. You say that you did me a big favor. But then you demean me by telling me that all of my premises are wrong. Do you think you doing me a favor by not showing me HOW all my premises are wrong, or even stating what all my wrong premises are? You could PM me, you know, so that you don't hurt my feelings by explaining all my wrongs to everybody. Seems that you kinda are showing us that you are a bit mixed up. Have you been drinking again? First of all you have to prove there is such a thing as "outside the universe" which you have not. Second of all, you are the one claiming to know there is 1 single creatoe there, ask yourself the same question lmao, did you go there to find out? Your brain is fucked up. Yes, people have to work together to create a car, so what? Are they not multiple people? If you and I work on a car, are we suddenly 1 person because we are working together? What kind of retarded logic are you using here? |
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We can't see pain, but we can measure it, test it, feel it. Just like oxygen or anything else that we can't see. There is still plenty of evidence of pain, not so much of god
How do you measure pain ? Where is the National Bureau of Standard's pain calibration reference ? Nope... pain is real, but it is purely subjective. This is why doctors & nurses have to ask patients, "on a scale of 1 to 10, how much pain do you feel ? There is no 'painometer' they can use, like there are thermometers, sphygmomanometers, weightometers (mass scales), pH meters, etc. As humans, we 'believe' in pain; or better put, we can 'believe' in the pain of others, so we know pain exists; because we know darn well we have felt it ourselves (on one occasion or another), but yet, there is no physical, objective way to measure pain. There are physical, objective ways to measure distance, mass and time, and ways to measure all the physical phenomena that can be described by interactions and combination of these 3 fundamentals; but pain ? ... no, it cannot be measured. Quote from: https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_painA widely accepted scientific definition of pain is that “Pain is an unpleasant sensory and emotional experience that is associated with actual or potential tissue damage or described in such terms.” A key feature of this definition is that it goes on to say, “pain is always subjective.” Why would you focus so much on that? We can still test pain, feel it and know how or why it works. We cant do ANY of that with god, whats your point here? |
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^^^ Where's my fucking 2 TH/s bitcoin miner I paid $5k cash for back in 2013? The one that left me high and dry unable to make any investment in BTC? The fucking company was named after a UK space program, the miner was named after a "satellite" the "Prospero". "The Prospero satellite, also known as the X-3,[2] was launched by the United Kingdom in 1971. It was designed to undertake a series of experiments to study the effects of space environment on communications satellites and remained operational until 1973, after which it was contacted annually for over 25 years.[3] Although Prospero was the first British satellite to have been launched successfully by a British rocket, the first British satellite placed in orbit was Ariel 1, launched in April 1962 on a U.S. rocket. Prospero has the COSPAR (NSSC ID) designation 1971-093A and the US Space Command satellite catalogue number 05580." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prospero_(satellite) Where's my fucking X-3 miner? Why didn't I get my money refunded so I could make other BTC investment arrangements? ".. now you don't need to do anything productive" <--- You're a massive piece of shit, you fucking leftist retard.   Now it makes sense, you lost all your btc and went insane, thats why you started this thread. You are not a liar after all, just delusional, posting the globe map as proof for the flat earth lmao. |
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Switchdex was ethershift before and they don't have an option to trade with Bitcoin, I guess this thread falls on altcoin's service discussion. the most close one is bisq but need to grow in volume...but when this will be main stream we all be jumping all day long,
Bisq's trading volume is increasing ( chart), if more exchanges starts putting restriction from certain countries others might start using DEX. All DEXes have low volume because people do not use them. For sure all these restrictions will bump up the volume of DEXes as well as the use of privacy coins. |
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You have been unable to prove god created everything in the other thread so why do you keep claiming such thing? You still cannot prove there is only 1 creator and not multiple.
You have shown that you are unable to accept scientific proof, so you are locked in your own fanatic cult. You are a perfect example of the relationship between science and religion. Actually, i did you a BIG favor by accepting all your premises which are wrong, even after accepting all of them, they still dont prove a single god as shown in the other thread that you continuously ignore after slme time. You cant prove everything has a cause. You cant prove only more complex stuff can create less complex stuff. You cant prove there is 1 single creator and not multiple. You are such a funny guy. You accept all my wrong premises, but you won't accept science proof. And then you admit it. That's okay, though. Everybody needs a religion. Why won't you step up to a religion that's right? No, i said even after accepting all your premises as true, they still do not show a single creator. Because they actually point to multiple creators, specially complexity. |
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Considering how awful the democrats candidates are in their majority and that the stupid US system is basically a 1v1 Rep vs Dem I don't see how Trump could lose.
Absolutely right, the other candidates are a bunch of "low energy" people as trump calls them. I personally like trump but even if i didnt, how in the world would you vote for the other guys? They are simply awful. |
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^^^ Dude, you're so full of crap. Independent travel is NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD!  Antarctica - Sorry We're Closed! -- https://youtu.be/vnNlbNtuv1gLets see who is full of shit. "Article I 1. Antarctica shall be used for peaceful purposes only. There shall be prohibited, inter alia, any measures of a military nature, such as the establishment of military bases and fortifications, the carrying out of military maneuvers, as well as the testing of any type of weapons. 2. The present treaty shall not prevent the use of military personnel or equipment for scientific research or for any other peaceful purposes." So right off the bat, it says no military allowed and that antarctica should be used only for peaceful purposes only. How bad is that??? You are such a bafoon. I would punch you hard in real life. https://www.ats.aq/documents/recatt/Att483_e.pdfThere are fucking guidelines in case you go there idiot, you can go there at anytime you fucking dumbfuck. |
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As i said in the first post, it would have been extremely difficult for the US to fake such thing and fool every other government. These idiots have to invent an even bigger conspiracy and say all governments are working together to fake such thing, why would do they it? Well, they write ab even bigger conspiracy theory to explain it, its never ending
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^^^ If the oxide is formed under high voltage it retains its electrical polarization when cooled, it's a kind of electret.
After much discussion and a failed first attempt at calculation, I've arrived at a distance of 3440 nautical miles for both Sun and Moon.
First I measure the Sun/Moon at sunrise/sunset with the luminary 50% visible (16 minutes), then I calculate the distance to the horizon with a 1 foot eye elevation and an eye angular resolution limit of 1 minute (1 nautical mile to horizon), then I calculate the luminaries un-refracted size (1 minute). Finally I measure the luminary at 90 degrees (32 minutes). Now without making any assumptions I know the radius of the luminary (16 minuets) and using standard right angle trigonometry and the 1 nautical mile per minuet defined during the first measurement/calculation we find the luminary is at a height of 3440 nautical miles with 32 nautical mile diameter.
There isn't really an edge with the dome and the ice wall, however Antarctica is protected by the Antarctic Treaty System so you can't go there un-escorted for any reason under any circumstance. If you try you'll be stopped by military force.
Do you realize you keep going back and forth to the same concepts, right? "Protected" by the antarctic treaty does not mean you cant go there, in fact nowhere in the few article/rules there does it say you will be stopped by military force. |
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^^^ Once refraction is accounted for it's the globe that's up shit creek without a paddle my summer child.
And yet you admitted to not know for sure even when "refraction" is accounted for. You said it yourself, you are still trying to calculate it fully, why have you stopped posting the calc, cuz you could not do it. |
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You have been unable to prove god created everything in the other thread so why do you keep claiming such thing? You still cannot prove there is only 1 creator and not multiple.
You have shown that you are unable to accept scientific proof, so you are locked in your own fanatic cult. You are a perfect example of the relationship between science and religion. Actually, i did you a BIG favor by accepting all your premises which are wrong, even after accepting all of them, they still dont prove a single god as shown in the other thread that you continuously ignore after slme time. You cant prove everything has a cause. You cant prove only more complex stuff can create less complex stuff. You cant prove there is 1 single creator and not multiple. |
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lol this topic is still discussed? hha  Eratosthenes calculated the earth's circumference 2300 years ago and we are still discussing this while we are building decentralized currencies, something is wrong here. Eratosthenes assumed Earth was a globe and based his calculation on that assumption, this is called "begging the question". A small close Sun above a flat earth produces the same results. You should research you facts before proving that you're a fool. @BADecker, the Copernican model is done, you're done. He assumed the sun was far away, thats why he used only 2 holes, however as shown many times, you can do it with 3 distant holes, measure the angles of the shadows and no FE model can account for the angles, even with a close sun. |
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You are a proven troll, please dont post anything else, your posts consist of 99% photoshopped fake pics as already proven in the other posts. |
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Exactly, whether he was right or wrong does not even matter because he was using science and the scientific method to determine those concepts, not the bible. You still havent shown anyone using something in the bible to invent something. Bible is useless, even for morals as it contains laws supporting slavery or even rape or murder.
Since God invented everything, and science only brings a little of it out into the open, religion far surpasses science... even the science of Einsteinian relativity, or his science of the aether. You have been unable to prove god created everything in the other thread so why do you keep claiming such thing? You still cannot prove there is only 1 creator and not multiple. |
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I've arrived at ~3440 without making any assumptions or claims. All values are known (eye resolution limit) or measured (angle of sun & height of observer).
But you just said a few posts ago, that you are still trying to calculate it and had some errors. Show us the full calc if you claim you have arrived at 3440 or shut up, liar. |
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