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421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin Proof of Stake Minting Setup Guide on: May 03, 2013, 05:26:36 AM
I believe I read somewhere that user wouldn't be able to send payments from encrypted wallet while it is "open for minting purpose only". However, I tried sending 0.1 coins in this state and they went through without asking password. Can anyone confirm this observation?

Maybe I understood the logic wrong?

Oh ok so maybe I stand corrected. Only rpc on commandline is currently blocked from sending. This is actually considered a bug as the qt should ask you for passphrase in a future release.
422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [PPC] [PROPOSAL] PPCoin Online Stake Safety on: May 03, 2013, 05:07:00 AM
Abstract: A proposal to relieve stake minter the risk of running online hot wallet.

Description: This proposal is simpler than the previous dual-key proposal [1]. A special transaction type called cold-locked transaction is introduced so that a designated spending address is specified in its first output. Protocol enforces that, spending of any of the outputs in the transaction must be sent to this designated address, or to itself (for stake generation purpose). When stake is generated, the stake transaction is also cold-locked and the designated key in stake must match all designated keys where all the inputs come from.

How hot wallet is protected:

By providing a cold-wallet address as the designated spending address in cold-locked transactions, stake minter can now run their entire balance online in a hot wallet to earn 1% annual interest with minimum risk, while providing maximum security to the entire network. This would allow even the exchanges, pools, and other online wallet providers to participate in network protection without risking public assets, and reduce fees or even pay interest to its users.

For public review and discussion.

References:
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115608.0

423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin Proof of Stake Minting Setup Guide on: May 03, 2013, 03:45:31 AM
Sunny,

I have gone through the steps but I can't get into minting mode. I am still seeing "Info: Minting suspended due to locked wallet". on the lower left and "Wallet is encrypted and locked" when hovering over the lock in the lower right.

I have gone through your following steps 1-4.  After starting the wallet up (in the several times I've tried this), I run the mint.bat file and enter my password- to clarify, this is the encryption password for the wallet and not the rpc password in step 2, correct?

before the terminal window disappears i can briefly see "Error: type mismatch".

Any idea of how to fix this?

Thanks and regards-

Oh I haven't tried xk5's script, yeah it was meant to be wallet passphrase, to see it you can start->run->'cmd' and then cd to the script directory to run it on command line, so you can see the errors properly without the terminal closing on you.
424  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: New Cypto-Currency to rule them all !! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: May 03, 2013, 03:39:02 AM
Yes, exactly, the original PPCoin demonstrated that the difficulty was too low even way back then.

However much NoVaCoin increased it presumably also was not enough?

So by the time BitBar came out it should have been apparent that even more increase was needed...

-MarkM-

Nope, ppcoin started at difficulty 256, the first block took about 20 minutes to arrive after build was published. For a SHA-256 coin, it was reasonable at that time.

Novacoin started with a very low difficulty for scrypt coins, so you probably could generate early blocks very fast with even cpu. That's how Balthazar got > 110K coins. Technically Balthazar didn't 'premine' either, he told his compatriot about the release.

Bitbar started with very low difficulty too.

I would recommend developers who want to fork ppcoin, to pick a higher starting difficulty. Due to the way minting is designed in ppcoin, block subsidy would drop as difficulty increase, if you pick low starting difficulty, it would greatly amplify first day mintage and give the public an impression of heavy premining. For ppcoin, we started at a high difficulty of 256 and with 9 days of announcement, yet there are still people accusing us of premining to this day.
425  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: New Cypto-Currency to rule them all !! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: May 03, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
i am sorry i am a newbie just excited about this currency didn't know your accomplishments thanks for your work

Oh no problem welcome to the world of cryptocurrency Smiley
426  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: New Cypto-Currency to rule them all !! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: May 03, 2013, 03:16:14 AM
A whole weekend? Really?

What does it take to do the centralised node checkpoints part?

-MarkM-

Yes I might have overestimated Wink Checkpoint part is not hard, Balthazar figured it out himself no problem, you just need to replace a key and switch a node to be master.
427  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: New Cypto-Currency to rule them all !! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: May 03, 2013, 03:01:31 AM
It's a trivial clone. It can be done on a weekend for a programmer familiar with forking bitcoin, maybe a few days more to get familiar with ppcoin. Most of your touted innovations were actually done by me, with ppcoin.
428  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: May 03, 2013, 01:58:04 AM
So the 2nd ppcoin fork 'bitbar' has been released today.

In my opinion that's a good thing for ppcoin. There will be a lot more clone altcoins by the end of the year. Having multiple clones of our work actually indicates that more developers are valuing the design, and more new users would have opportunity to learn about the original work in ppcoin.

I am happy that we have a more pro-active user base now. There are users contributing both on github and graphics work. So let's continue the great work and be diligent in this fierce altcoin competition!
429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitBar New POW-POS scrypt CryptoCoin on: May 03, 2013, 01:45:12 AM
PPC has dust protection. you cant sent such a low amount, network would not accept it.
8 decimals are just to make transaction at exact amount, not microtrasactions.

if NVC is based on PPC, and BTB on NVC...  I believe it might be just that.

Correct. You need to send 1/10,000 of a BTB at minimum.
430  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBar Block Explorer on: May 02, 2013, 11:18:55 PM

I have bought the altcointech.com  .net  .org and .info domains as I want to stat a technical wikki for Alt coins.

What do you think?


Yes there definitely need to be a good technical source. I think we would be at 100 altcoins this year, I got multiple PM's to ask me to help create coins. There are tons of people not versed in programming want to create clone coins.

bitbar is cloned from NVC, is basically the same as ppcoin. I thought mr_random would know better. From my point of view, the more programmers clone ppcoin, the better. It's one of the yardstick how well the design is being accepted in the market.
431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: May 02, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
Might also be related to the fact that those other altcoins have issued much smaller amounts of coins so far. Going by market cap, ppcoin is about on par with namecoin, and about 5x bigger than the next one (terracoin). About 10x as big as feathercoin.

I think dustcoin's calculation is a bit off for feathercoin, it's 4x too low. FTC has close to 30k BTC market cap today.

432  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPcoin Logo tweak (peercoin) on: May 02, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
No need to change symbols, the official symbol means two 'P' connected by a bar, it's not 'IP', but two 'P's, but if you draw actual two P's it would look ugly. You can move the vertical bar 'I' to the right and inside 'P' though, if you think that would look more like two 'P's.
433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin Proof of Stake Minting Setup Guide on: May 01, 2013, 08:53:51 PM
What hardware is appropriate for "Proof of Stake" minting?

At this time my coins are on a rather old laptop. For Bitcoin mining this is absolutely insufficient, and for PPC minting? Do I need a VGA card, or even an  FPGA?

No special hardware required. Proof-of-stake minting is not computing intensive.
434  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: May 01, 2013, 07:30:59 PM
Putting Chinese symbols there probably would limit its popularity. I don't know. Let's see how well it's received.

Thanks to robotrebellion and Mjbmonetarymetals for contribution of graphics work Smiley Oh and a new term 'eco-currency'  Grin
435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin Proof of Stake Minting Setup Guide on: April 30, 2013, 10:19:26 PM
Sunny would you be able to answer the question above please
you prob didn't see as maybe didn't refresh
I cant' send coins to my wallet from exchange without knowing the answer and knowing is safe to receive while locked

and how to unlock???

it really needs an easy unlock feature, obviously placed like now tbh
thats gott be more important than anything else I can think of on backburner

thanks

You don't need to unlock wallet unless you want to mint blocks with an encrypted wallet. For Qt it doesn't need unlock in order to send/receive coins.
436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPCoin Proof of Stake Minting Setup Guide on: April 30, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
I would be very happy if users start contributing to the github wiki page, so far there is a lot a complaints and no contributions, except for the quite nicely done reddit discussion forum page.

As to the website, there is nothing preventing anybody designing a nicer portal than ppcoin.org, I have a separate domain name ppcoin.info currently not used. If there is community consensus that the design is nice enough I would link ppcoin.info to it. But that would need someone to either volunteer the work and hosting, or try to raise a bounty for it.
437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: April 30, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
FYI, another SR like market called 'FreeMarket' is in the works and is planning to support ppcoin:

http://pastebin.com/qq3cPcfC

Courtesy of FreeMarket team:
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We would like to take this opportunity to announce that The FreeMarket is being launched within 6 weeks (June 12th 2013).

Following months of planning and development we shall be launching the latest online marketplace that is 100% crypto-currency focused. We currently have integrated Bitcoin, Litecoin and PPCoin. Although hidden on the TOR network for privacy and anonymity reasons we are not entirely focused on the contraband market, however The FreeMarket will only restrict sales of the following items;
•   Firearms.
•   Chemical Weapons.
•   Weapons of Mass Destruction.
•   Child Pornography.
•   Any item designed to cause harm to another human being.

Users have the option to "opt-out" of viewing any of the listings that are classed as contraband in many countries.

Accessibility

Our initial thought was that by providing a hidden tor service, it would immediately restrict the amount of people we could attract to the site so to address these issues we shall be releasing a modified version of the TOR Browser that automatically loads The FreeMarket upon startup. This modified browser will be shared by Torrents and the source code will be freely available for examination by everyone.

We have also started to develop "The FreeMarket" Android app that will incorporate TOR connectivity without the need of running any other third party software to make the app functional.

Vendors

Vendor accounts are available for a $10 refundable deposit. The deposit is refunded automatically upon the vendors feedback rating reaching 10.

Vendors have the option to peg their listing against the USD to protect against any drop in the exchange rate of BTC/LTC/PPC.

Vendors can choose which Crypto Currencies they wish to accept for their listings.

Vendors also choose which fiat currency they wish to set the price of the item using. The buyer will see the price of the item in their chosen default currency.

Vendors can set their default refund policies and early finalization policies to save time when creating new sales listings. These can be edited for each item if required upon creation of the listing.

Vendors can offer up to 5 different shipping options and also list up to 5 shipping exclusions.
 
Upon receiving an order the vendor is presented with all the information about the buyer so they can make an informed decision as to whether they wish to request early finalization, accept with additional terms (Buyer will be requested to accept these terms), accept the order  or reject the order.

Early finalization can be completed in a percentage and not in full, no vendor or product feedback is required to be given until the item has been shipped and the escrow balance has reached its final destination.
Vendors can also add shipping discounts and product discounts. Upon the discounts being set the buyer is refunded the difference from the escrow balance automatically.

Fees are set at 5% of the total order value completed through the escrow process.

Buyers

Buyers can make informed decisions on which vendor they wish to use, all product details are included in the listings including any refund policies, early finalization policies, and product feedback from other buyers and which crypto-currencies the vendor will accept.

Buyers can cancel their order at the click of a button if they do not wish to accept additional terms set by the vendors. If a vendor requests part or full early finalization of an order, the buyer will be notified through their inbox, buyers are also notified of any discounts added by the vendor directly to their inbox with the discounted amount being refunded directly to the relevant crypto-currency balance.

Feedback

The  FreeMarket offers two separate feedback systems, one for the vendor and another for the purchased product.

All feedback ratings are a maximum of 140 characters long (just like a tweet).

Feedback does not have to be completed until the item has been shipped and the escrow balance has been finalized.

Product feedback will remain with a listing until the listing has been permanently deleted by the vendor. If a vendor becomes out of stock on a product they can deactivate the listing until they have more stock available to ensure they keep all previous product feedback.

Vendor feedback is there to provide an insight to a potential buyer as to what dealing with each particular vendor is like.

Feedback scores are set as +1 for positive feedback, 0 for neutral feedback and -1 for negative feedback.

Escrow

All orders are made through our onsite escrow service, the buyer can finalize the escrow balance in full or in part before the item is shipped at the request of the vendor.

Escrow disputes are something we wish to avoid to ensure both the vendor and the buyer has a great experience using The FreeMarket, however in the real world disputes do and will always happen. When a dispute occurs that cannot be settled between the buyer and the vendor, we shall follow the terms agreed to at the time of purchase, these terms are set out clearly by the vendor and displayed throughout the buying process. Buyers have the free will to decide themselves if they believe the terms offered by the vendor are to their satisfaction. If they are not, do not use the vendor. We understand that not all policies will cover every scenario and should the dispute require moderation, The FreeMarket will always be fair to both parties after reviewing each case separately.

Financial Exchangers

Not everyone has the knowledge on how to use the mainstream crypto exchanges and some people like simplicity, we have a section of the marketplace dedicated to financial exchanges. All crypto-funds being promised by an exchanger or buyer will be required to be placed into escrow. The vendor/exchanger can set their additional commission at the time of the listing being made to ensure the amount of currency being offered for exchange doesn't need changing every time the crypto exchange rate changes. No percentage fees are added by The FreeMarket on completed exchanges, a $2 listing fee is the set price for each listing made by an exchanger.

Service Offerings

We are currently developing a section of the marketplace that is solely focused on service providers and freelancers to ensure the core marketplace doesn't become full of people offering services. All service offerings have the option to use our onsite escrow service to ensure security for both the provider and the purchaser.
This section is still under active development at the time of writing and more details will be released once a final decision has been made.

Gaming

The FreeMarket will include an official onsite lottery, each ticket will be sold for $1.00 (or the equivalent based on the buyers default currency). To enter the lottery you can pick 4 numbers between 1 and 35. Every Sunday we will randomly request an individual number from random members once 4 unique responses have been received, the winners will be notified and will received an equal share of the jackpot. In the result of no winners the jackpot shall roll over to the following Sunday. No commission is charged or taken from the jackpot fund in the lottery.

Support

We have enough team members and developers to provide constant 24/7 support.

Security

Security and confidence is the most important factor when it comes to sending crypto coins anywhere. That is why we have implemented several security features in the back-end of The FreeMarket to ensure that if any vulnerability are discovered and exploited by someone with ill intent, damage is confined and recoverable.

We could launch the site 2 weeks earlier than planned but we wouldn't have time to test all aspects of the website and its security features. We will not launch early just to get launched for the sake of launching either early or on time without all of our testing being completed.

There is not a single wallet held on our webserver, they are all held on separate servers to ensure the highest possible level of security for everyone’s coins.

We fully understand that most websites are not perfect, so to ensure that if vulnerabilities are discovered they get reported to us, we shall be offering high bounties and a hall of fame listing to anyone that finds vulnerabilities or major bugs within our systems. These bounties are set based on the level of the vulnerability found and the potential consequences. We will have a mirror of the website with dummy data listed for people to attack at their leisure to try and discover vulnerabilities. Anyone wanting to obtain the .onion address for the testing site you can request this information through our support system on the main website.

For peace of mind we suggest that you do not keep large balances on you FreeMarket account until you have established trust of both our systems and The FreeMarket team. We understand trust and respect is not a given it is something that we must earn over time.

Auction Listings (Future)

We have plans to implement further modules to The FreeMarket including an Auction marketplace, we shall only implement this feature once we have enough traffic to make it a viable option for vendors to list items on an auction basis.

Conclusion

We look forward to providing a new marketplace platform for both existing and new members of the crypto community, we are also more than happy to answer questions and receive feedback both positive and negative. If you have any suggestions as to features we should offer then please feel free to let us know.
We shall keep everyone informed of the changes to the launch date and changes to the functionality of the website.

thefreemarket@tormail.org
438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: April 30, 2013, 06:19:34 AM
It's a lot more complicated than that I think. A lot of you appears to think that by switching a name then we can take on bitcoin. It's not so simple. The name appears to be an easy blame right now. Think about it, bitcoin has almost 4-year lead on us, litecoin almost 1-year lead. We have only 10% user base of litecoin right now.

Yes we have innovative technology and bring a message of energy efficiency (eco-friendly) I bet many bitcoiners already know this. Still the retail acceptance is low. Why? Most retailers don't care if we are eco-friendly, that we have different technology, they only accept what a lot of people have asked about.

I suggest many of our new enthusiastic users begin making some effort to talk to your favorite bitcoin accepting stores and promote the idea of supporting new innovations, supporting environmental responsibility. I believe within a year the cryptocurrency community would be much more open-minded to competing currencies rather than being defensive of bitcoin. But it takes time. Instead of just pushing me to change names, which is a false shortcut in my opinion, and I think it could turn out very disappointing than you would have imagined. So far only one altcoin team attempted name change, that is solidcoin, and turned out to be a disaster. The whole project basically collapsed afterwards.
439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: April 30, 2013, 04:34:23 AM
So the more PPCoins you have, and the older they are, the bigger PoS reward they give? Also, what does the current PoS difficulty translate to to the average user?

The reward is basically a fixed 1% annual interest, assuming your wallet has low 'churning' and you run the client often enough to generate blocks.

As to the difficulty, difficulty 1 means 2**32 coin-day-second, it's less intuitive to PoW case if you are not familiar with how proof-of-stake is generated. Basically it means if your coin (txout) is 'weighted' at 1 coin-day, it would take 2**32 second on average to generate a block. Since v0.3, the weighting has been adjusted a bit. For example, a coin 30 days old gets 0 day weight, 60 days gets 30-day weight, 90 days and beyond gets 60-day weight.
440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [PPC] PPCoin Released! - First Long-Term Energy-Efficient Crypto-Currency on: April 30, 2013, 04:01:47 AM
Ok I have heard enough of complaints of the project name. I understand most of you are wishing the project well, but you have to understand, rebranding is not a risk-free task and could cause a lot of confusion in the market, not to mention costing a ton of resources of the project.

Honestly I don't think the name is too bad, it's easy to remember. Yes there are a lot of immature people making fun of the name, but why can't we just ignore them and move on, I believe one day they would be the one looking funny when talking like that.

If you truly believe the name is causing us to lose market, I'd say the evidence is to the contrary. Just one month ago we were still in a close match with devcoin, terracoin, novacoin etc. Apparently the market has decided the name was either not that bad or didn't matter and now we are #3 even ahead of namecoin.

Like I said, if you hate the name with a passion, you can refer it as peercoin as you like. Amidst all these complaints I am a bit surprised to find someone who said ppcoin is a good marketing name, while feathercoin is not, because peer-to-peer is a tech term a lot of people can associate to.

As to our marketing message of energy efficiency, that's why the leaf coin icon was made. Yes it is our central marketing message from the beginning. But I think, peer-to-peer (i.e. decentralization) is the main innovation of cryptocurrency, having it in the name shouldn't be such a bad thing.
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