I guess there is no hope PiCoin will survive.
To be honest, the devs didn't deliver anything valuable.

I understand your principle, but you could also consider this to be a complete reboot of the game where existing holders get some percentage of the new supply as an airdrop (pretty generous!). Given that the game is essentially dead in the water, that's not an unreasonable approach at all.

Again, I'm neutral on the idea, but at this point those of us who want to see something positive come out of this game should be open to a variety of proposals, and evaluate available credible proposals against each other not against some fantasy where nothing of substance changes in the game and suddenly it is worth $100 million.

You're too late, consensus was already reached for the first vote

I used @kjadB's recovery site, worked perfectly

Thanks so much, the thought of losing 30K USD was making me sick !!

Who is Gartner?

I acknowledge all the above.
I am currently holding this depository, let the games continue!  

We actually need help with the markets. Yobit in maintence, no peers connected at nova.

Can anyone help get clearwallet.io back up and running?

This is how the world works, rich people like Zuckerberg, Gates, Buffet, Bezos etc own big stakes of the economy but don't have direct control of government policy, then there are politicians like Obama who get to control the levers of government without having much money but get paid wages and other perks, and then some guys like Trump who have both. Adding politics to the CK landscape makes things far more interesting, I like it!

clearing house is not my project. That project is halted.
I took over in summer 2016. You can't use your clearinghouse seed for vialectrum.
You had to export your Viacoin private key. People used it dangerously as an online wallet.

Edit: I'm glad you found your private key. Don't bother about the XCH. XCH is worth $0

Your assurances mean nothing to me (or matter to a regulatory agency), I'll ere on the side of caution and implore others to do the same.

To a degree I understand the rationale, but all this extra complexity seems pointless to me.

For one, there is almost no transactional volume in the game, nor will this be something that tries to compete with Bitcoin, so the distinction is moot. Let's be blunt: for all intents and purposes the game is pretty much dead.  

Additionally, people or the game management can electively burn M/CK, as has been done in every other "game" crypto token: PEPE, BTS, and others. So say town makes 10mil M, 10% or 1mil can be sent to a burn address, with a check each game year. This is sort of like a proxy dividend via outstanding float cancellation. Really, I don't think this is necessary to consider now, but I am sure it has helped something like PEPE in a fashion which has gone from 1bil issuance to 700mil as a result of burns by the community and the "PEPE foundation."  

Also, we do not have to run an ICO to have a crypto token. That would be a separate topic entirely. I just think it has now reached the point of pure idiocy that a game called "Crypto Kingdom" has absolutely nothing to do with crypto and we need a token.

Anyway on the topic of a fund raise, eventually people will realize we need money in some fashion as PJ isn't going to do shit (he has had a year and was paid well in XMR to do nothing) and we need other developers. And even if we make a crypto token, we will still have a broken spreadsheet game. Unless you find someone who will work for free, that will take some form of compensation to fix.

Now, just for ease, you can look and see that no other "game token" even cares about the ownership vs currency distinction. I think just the one token is enough. However, if it is such an issue why not do this:

We currently have 4tril M. I say move it to a # everyone is comfortable with. 5tril, 10tril, 100tril, whatever. We then take that token and issue CKM and CKO in the same amounts. M is then removed. So say you own 100bil M after we "lock" a # of M outstanding value, you will now own 100bil CKM and 100bil CKO. The M version is money/currency and the O version is ownership. CKO can just stay on Ultima, CKM we try to make the token off of.

In regards to the game, about 50% of M and numerous game items are Zech-related. The game will own 50% CKM and 50% CKO to do what they wish with as well as all the game items. So you could raise funds off that CKM/CKO and then have all the items for market making by the game (sort of like Coinshop used to do).

Personally, I think it's piss that Zech invested so much in the game (thousands of BTC and tens of thousands of XMR) and then everyone expects him to spend even more money and then the game is no better off as those additional payments are only for debts that Zech himself created. But you've locked his shit for months and it doesn't make economic sense for him to pay anything off, so either just give the shit back or do something, anything, else.

I mean, Zech has a fucking point. I'm a greedy fuck and even I can see that. What was the benefit of, say, paying someone like Syksy 100-200 BTC (which did go to his wallet; he is only lacking around 15 BTC atm)? Dude up and left the game entirely, and he's not the only one.

So that CKM/CKO thing should make everyone happy. I still think it's pointless complexity, but just do something...



 

Yeah, it sucks, but you're right on point: the vibe in CK isn't welcoming

This is why this game/project will never go anywhere. You and I are not the only ones who wanted tokenization, but over time anyone with an interest or who had suggestions for the game has been chased off. CK is the crypto bizzaro world where everyone seems to do all they can to make the project fail/flounder.

I want everything in ck to have the ability to be put on a blockchain, but M. This is where we disagree, and a free floating supply means that you are simply adding in game inflation to mask the actual deflation of the original asset--also not sure how that works for players who weren't part of the initial distribution of M token--aren't you essentially creating endless inflation by parsing the exchange asset into bigger and bigger denominations of the game asset?

That's why we have a 10% M supply to initiate a general meeting. TBH, you rehash a lot of Loaf's arguments and seem to appear every time he starts this argument, so I'm inclined to think you are Loaf--if that isn't true, apologies, but I have stated the deflation problem last time you were on here pressing this agenda, so it shouldn't be alien to you.

An M exchange asset is going to create deflation--I've said it enough times for those who are paying attention, and care, to understand the issue--I do not wish you good luck in you or loaf's agenda.

If you guys want an M exchange asset (and I can't wait to dish a huge dose of "I told you so") then the CKG Bounty is off the table.

When we get markka on a blockchain, there should be a depository working like that of XMR when it was the game currency.

So you can withdraw markka to your own wallet or other exchange and deposit back to the game. The problem I see here is the network security.

This could be solved using an ARDR child chain as proposed by boomboom. This way the child chain security is taken care of by the ARDR parent chain.

Boomboom (or guy who agrees with loaf a lot), feel free to create that bounty or do the leg work to get it done.

I've told HMC the exact same thing in bold. Waiting for "put up or shut up" from him in regard to your post. Sucks, but we barely had a game before and we have even less of a game now, so I'd say a token alone won't do anything. Anyway, I'm sure we'll get around to making a token when there are only 3 players left and we'll get around to actually making a game when there is 1 player left...