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461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly: Terrorism money on: August 13, 2013, 10:43:50 PM
To counter that we need to do a better job focusing on the positive use cases for Bitcoin.

Who Uses Bitcoin?

Wow, speaking of such... I just checked out this thread:

Grocery store for Life On Bitcoin Film Couple - crossing fingers

This looks FANTASTIC!!!

EXACTLY what we need:

http://lifeonbitcoin.com/ (video)
462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly: Terrorism money on: August 13, 2013, 10:32:49 PM
There is likely no evidence for it. Most people still barely understand Bitcoin, let alone know how to definitively prove its use in various forms. However, there are certainly people beginning to understand the freedom Bitcoin enables and want to suppress that. So they start up a propaganda war against it to make it easier to try to suppress it.

To counter that we need to do a better job focusing on the positive use cases for Bitcoin.
463  Economy / Digital goods / Re: How to be Anonymous with Bitcoin on: August 13, 2013, 08:54:47 PM
Except they're offering more than just a ebook. They offer instruction, tuition, certification (diplomas), and more. You're offering a pdf with the same information from the bitcoin.it page. It's the same scummy behavior as this ebook. hint: the "info" is the 2% cashback card they promote on their checkout page.

What universities offer is not the point. The point is they charge for information which is readily available, which is what you seem to have a problem with. And not everyone graduates.

So why are you advertising people get interest bearing loans? Many consider charging interest immoral. Why don't you make micro loans available to people in developing countries with 0% interest and help them out? No, instead you advertise Coin Lenders with an oversize forum font spamming up the forum... Why are you acting so scummy and only concerned with profiting?

See how it feels when people carelessly through around such words?

That's just a strawman, and appeal to tone. I never said your behavior was against the free market. I'm against your shameless profiteering. How about you use your writing skills to improve the bitcoin wiki instead? It will do a lot more for the bitcoin ecosystem than a rehashed wiki article as pdf. Come to think of it, your site's autopayment script is more valuable than your ebook. Try selling that instead.

Since we're throwing around suggestions, how about I suggest you stop thinking you have any authority to tell people what to do?

What I find interesting is your statements that my ebook has the same info as an online page when you haven't read it. You must be clairvoyant... Let me spell it out for you. You can present information in a different manner to achieve greater results. There are math teachers that have their lessons fly over the heads of students, while others get amazing comprehension when teaching the same math.
464  Economy / Digital goods / Re: How to be Anonymous with Bitcoin on: August 13, 2013, 03:04:57 AM
It still doesn't change the fact that the information is public knowledge or common sense at best.

Information on basically everything under the sun is public knowledge in libraries and on the Internet. That doesn't stop universities charging significant tuition for instruction.

length doesn't imply quality or informativeness.

I didn't say it did. Actually, I tried to keep reading time short which I think is a plus.

I can probably condense your ebook into 3 points
  • avoid reusing addresses
  • keep inputs separated using separate wallets or coincontrol
  • use mixers
Feel free to prove me wrong.

I have no interest or need to prove anything to you. I'm not sure why you seem so hostile. I wrote a book which took me nontrivial time, research, and thought process and decided to put a price on the finished product. Nothing here is inconsistent with the free market. I was glad to make another good available for bitcoins.

I'm calling it a money grab because the information is such low value (you can get the same information on bitcoin.it wiki, feel free to prove me wrong), and you're trying to profit off of it.

See what I said above about libraries and universities.
465  Economy / Digital goods / Re: How to be Anonymous with Bitcoin on: August 13, 2013, 02:36:20 AM
oh look, a money grab ebook with recycled information

why don't you take your recycled content ebooks to HF?

Actually I didn't consult that page at all when writing, and the book has several chapters. If that one page was enough information on the topic then there wouldn't be any confusion expected on the topic, which isn't the case. Plus I have a forum for discussion/questions as well. The ebook is about $2.90 so if that amounts to a money grab then... okay. I feel the subject is an important one. Thanks for the encouragement, though.
466  Economy / Digital goods / Re: How to be Anonymous with Bitcoin on: August 13, 2013, 02:16:21 AM
Just send all your coins to a Satoshi Dice address and it'll automatically be mixed Tongue Tongue Tongue

Appears I have to buy your book so this post is a shameless plug you should've put in the marketplace

I was thinking that but I thought the topic might be of general interest to people too.
467  Economy / Digital goods / How to be Anonymous with Bitcoin on: August 13, 2013, 02:06:57 AM
(mods please feel free to move if not the right category)

I've seen a lot of confusion over Bitcoin anonymity. I think it's because Bitcoin is moving beyond a base of core technically savvy users, so I wrote an eBook in simple to understand terms explaining how to gain anonymity with Bitcoin. The website is below and has a forum for questions.


http://BitcoinAnonymityEbook.com
468  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
Montana & SC. New Mexico is sorta-kinda free of extra MSB registrations unless there's a "negotiable instrument" involved.

I'm not sure how many states still don't consider online doing businesses in their state to be regulated by their laws - but that's probably substantial, too. Still, unless you're going to discriminate by state (which is totally valid), the costs for getting all states' MSB licensing is quite a few million. Just for my little state of MI, it's >$500k in bonds and fees, >$500k for CA, and it's probably similar in other states.

Yes, but you only make a down payment on the bonds, based on the credit rating of the owners or something like that. Like I said, people really should listen to the talk. I found it very insightful.
469  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 09:28:17 PM
Is there a transcript of that? I sure don't hear of many Bitcoin businesses taking in hundreds of millions. There are ways around dumping money into bonds and fees for state-by-state MSB licensing -- you could partner with an already-licensed company, but that has its own costs (tangible and otherwise). Another idea I've heard floating around is to open a credit union to get around MSB licensing.

There might be a transcript, but I don't know where. LTB makes its content available in an open source way, and I think they mentioned someone making transcripts once...

Yes, you're correct about partnering with a licensed company as a cost effective option. That was one of the things discussed. There are a lot of cost saving considerations which is what surprised me most. Like you I had the 1M dollar figure as the starting point. Actually, registering at the federal level is not so costly. From there a business would also need licensing for the 50 states, but there is more to that. For example, whether or not a state requires a license if a business is not physically located there can be different. Some states, at least two, if I can remember being Montana and New Mexico I think, don't require any additional license.

So, yes, to operate in all 50 states and be fully compliant as a money transmitter is going to be costly, but there are options and already Bitcoin businesses making progress, for example, with partnering with existing licensed entities.

EDIT: also yes you're right, they mentioned banks are not subject to money transmitter licensing, so opening a credit union might work.
470  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 09:04:09 PM
I guess this explains why BitInstant has sort of stopped providing their services?
I'm not sure how US businesses can go forward without limiting the number of states they deal with, or cutting off service to the US altogether. It's a big fucking deal when a Bitcoin-oriented service snags a couple million in VC funds. For a "MSB" to be fully compliant and serve all the states, they need many multitudes more than that -- at no gain, except to have permission to operate. It's basically taking an enormous pile of money, dumping it in a pit, and having the company execs say "THAT'S how committed we are to this business." Compliance will snag a whole lot of business from people and companies which otherwise may not even consider buying BTC due to how risky using exchanges are right now.

I think there's going to be a bit of a blackout in the US from major service providers for years, but once funding and proper licensing is secured, we can get back off LocalBitcoins and sites too small to regulate, and enjoy safe trading from behind our desks again. While we're trading in a decentralized p2p way, though, the USG and states are almost certainly enabling money laundering and tax cheats -- so their priority shouldn't be in threatening service providers, but in establishing a path forward.

If regulators would just hold off and let these businesses grow to the point where they CAN fully comply, I think everyone'd be better off. Suggesting something like a five-year grace period would really be better for everyone involved than to start off a "conversation" talking publicly about enabling terrorism, child porn, and money laundering.

Just reading your post I can tell you haven't listened to this episode of Let's Talk Bitcoin:

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/57717761405/the-regulatory-question-inside-bitcoins-conference

The talk features a panel discussion from the recent Bitcoin Conference in New York, which included actual professionals in the regulatory space including from the U.S. GAO.

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It's a big fucking deal when a Bitcoin-oriented service snags a couple million in VC funds. For a "MSB" to be fully compliant and serve all the states, they need many multitudes more than that -- at no gain, except to have permission to operate.

Not true. Again you need to listen to the talk. Also, not every Bitcoin related business is categorized as a money transmitter. If you want to sell fruit from your orchard, offer singing lessons, or babysitting services, for bitcoin you need no license, for example.
471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you could subscribe to sites w/ Bitcoins... on: August 12, 2013, 07:56:09 PM
This sounds like a promising service. Best of luck!
472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY regulator memo: Notice of Inquiry on Virtual Currencies on: August 12, 2013, 05:10:59 PM
Nice try Mr. Benjamin M. Lawsky, but several things...

First, don't try to pretend the businesses and individuals that use a currency are equal to a currency itself. There is no "virtual currency industry". There are individuals and businesses that may use virtual currency at various levels but that commonality doesn't separate all such entities neatly into one industry.

Second, don't imagine you have jurisdiction to make meaningful impact on the use of virtual currency. Bitcoin, for example, being a decentralized global currency extends beyond any one U.S. state, and indeed beyond the U.S. itself.

Last, the U.S. dollar, as the world's reserve currency, I can assure you has been far more dangerous on a measure of human morality than the fledgling billion dollar Bitcoin market. The U.S. dollar has undoubtedly financed far more drug deals, global scale arms deals, heinous crimes, assassination, and murdering of innocent children unfortunate enough to be in the path of U.S. militarism in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

So, as you consider the purpose and intent of your regulation please keep in mind the reality of just how much more dangerous the U.S. dollar has factually been, for a number of years, in this world.
473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Realistically, how safe is a dedicated HD or SSD as cold storage? on: August 08, 2013, 08:09:19 PM
I was just wondering realistically how safe would it be to do a fresh windows and wallet install on an SSD and then unplug it ?I would just keep my SSD unplugged with my bitcoins until I wanted to access it. What ways could this be penetrated/accessible to outside parties? Thanks in advance!

It couldn't be accessed by outside parties. You're essentially doing cold storage in another way. It's interesting, something I hadn't thought of, but yes it would work. The biggest risk would be if it's the only copy you have. Remember even brand new drives can fail unexpectedly.

Securing coins from external threats basically involves separating the private keys from any online (therefore potentially vulnerable) system.

Armory does this by using an offline computer (as one method) so the private keys are kept offline there and can never be accessed externally. Users shuttle authorization back and forth with a USB stick. Your method does away with the second computer, by simply using a second operating system and second drive.

The Trezor also separates private keys from online systems by holding them on a separate dedicated USB device, which has no OS and is therefore immune even from viruses on the computer it's plugged into.

Any of these methods can successfully separate private keys from online threats. Each is a bit different and may work better for different people. However, Trezor I feel is the most complete solution because it handles backups and any other minor security concerns (like disabling autorun for the Armory USB stick) more elegantly.

Also note the method suggested by Icon above only keeps the private keys safe when not in use. If the file is loaded onto a compromised system that could be a problem.
474  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BEWARE - MTGox Stealing Your Money! on: August 08, 2013, 02:29:41 AM
Mt.Gox has a back log of wire transfers to process. You are not alone, but people are getting their money although slowly as Mt.Gox works to process orders manually. See here:

MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering]

The press release you linked to is old. Their most recent press release is here:

https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20130805.html
475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Needed: Security best practices for creating better Bitcoin services on: August 07, 2013, 06:03:05 PM
I had this same idea. I think in general there should be a repository, maybe even a new forum for Bitcoin project code, PHP/Python, etc. Bitcoin itself it open source, but everyone would benefit if some other aspects of Bitcoin development also had shared knowledge/work. Why keep re-inventing the wheel? Everyone benefits from more stable, secure businesses. Securing wallets, dealing with DDoS, even legal issues like obtaining money transmitter licenses etc. shouldn't be problems every single business faces on its own, over and over.
476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think people pulling out of mining is good for Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2013, 10:33:30 PM
If I recall correctly, my 700 Mhs rig was mining almost a bitcoin every day back then due to RUCoin and the BTC-e exchange. 

Now, I wouldn't be able to do that since the information gets out quicker and coins adapt.  I realize, internally, that by running CoinChoose I am destroying my ability to mine more efficiently, but rather have the info out there.

That's very unselfish of you, but there is a positive tradeoff. You're helping the market make decisions more efficiently. Eventually that would have happened either way, though. If you hadn't posted the information someone else would have.
477  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think people pulling out of mining is good for Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Hmmm...and my idea to start the site was purely as a result of RUCoin and the insanely low difficulty / high exchange rates back around the same time Smiley

Interesting. Yes, I was aware there were a few surviving alt-coins besides Bitcoin around that time. IXCoin I think it was, which may have been the first alt, had died as well as a few others. I knew there were varying rates of profitability with the surviving alts (like litecoin) too, but nothing I ever took seriously. I never took a hard look at the viability of alt-coins until the Bitcoin Foundation uproar, which showed me they indeed could offer a value Bitcoin never could: alternative.
478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think people pulling out of mining is good for Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2013, 05:46:05 PM
Interesting, do you believe Bitcoin cannot hold value in the long term (the next 10 - 100 years) and will be doomed to be a simple means to transfer value?

No, I think it's possible for Bitcoin to continue to hold value, but what actually happens no one knows. My thoughts are not much different from what this community has always thought, for the most part, about Bitcoin which is that its future value is uncertain. Along with that, though, people believed that until something superior to Bitcoin came along it would reign supreme having the only worthwhile value.

What I realized at the time of that post (from the chaos of the Bitcoin Foundation feuding) was another possibility, that there could be multiple coins with worthwhile value at the same time as Bitcoin had value. Working from there I saw several advantages, a big one being the subject of the thread, which was providing the market a more diffuse power structure for cryptocurrency than following only Bitcoin and its new foundation.

I don't believe it's possible for all coins to have similar value, of course, as that means infinite inflation. I do believe, however, the market can value a select few at any given time above all others and these can be the most widely accepted. There still remains the possibility any "super" coin can be supplanted by something far superior, but that's the same as it always was. Until that happens the coin maintains first mover advantage, and reason to retain its value. So that probably means Bitcoin sticks around regardless. What this complex market reasoning means for average people, however, is that they probably stick with something far simpler and more predictable to store the majority of their wealth, like gold. Cryptocurrency is superior to gold for its transactional properties, while gold is superior to cryptocurrency for its wealth storing ability. Both have reasons for people to value them, and I believe will be valued accordingly.
479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think people pulling out of mining is good for Bitcoin? on: August 06, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
ITT: people who are mad because their GPU mining rigs are being marginalized by ASICs. Also, http://dustcoin.com/.
or http://www.coinchoose.com/
and enjoy mining at 5x profitability of BTC  Cheesy Cheesy Wink

Good lord.

coinchoose.com appears to be the real world manifestation of what I described back in October 2012:

Solution to The Bitcoin Foundation (the announcement)

But the issue of confidence comes into play another way. Nothing backs cryptocurrencies, famously. They gain or lose value and acceptance based on how they are perceived. As I've illustrated it's easy for alternative cryptocurrencies to challenge each other, and no one knows what the market will come up with next. Since it's just as easy for merchants and everyone else to accept one form or another of these all electronic currencies and switch between them, any one could rise or fall at any time.

What I think this means is cryptocurrencies should be used transactionally, rather than as primary stores of value. I see a cryptocurrency version of xe.com showing all alt-coins values relative to gold (or USD to start). Exchange rates would be updated and available to merchants in real time. They could quote product prices in one, two, three or more currencies.
480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowdfund Homes in Detroit? on: August 06, 2013, 01:41:47 AM
... Fix up your home, drive a nice car, and take pride in yourself? You are now a target.

If that's the only attitude you project then yes certainly, but look at the video here:

http://theurbanfarmingguys.com/about

You will see the guys moving in to invest in that neighborhood are not doing it without betterment of the neighborhood being their core mission. Making a profit isn't the only thing which might attract people to Detroit. Opportunity can mean different things. There are actually entrepreneurs already on the scene in Detroit. A couple articles:

http://www.fastcompany.com/3007840/creative-conversations/how-young-community-entrepreneurs-rebuilding-detroit

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100900219

I agree it's probably not for the fainthearted, though.
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