Knife
i thought exactly the same.

SafeCex (anonymous instant buys) ... instant gratification
And the prices look fair for various combinations.

I was going to sell some securecoins for UNO, but securecoin seems to have no known nodes :/

The exchange coin diaspora has started, there are likely to be a 12 ALT/btc major exchanges, then thrice that amount of small exchanges that will likely run LTC, ETH, Doge, or even UNO base pair markets.

But the service!  I need a one-stop-shop!!

Thus, I'd like to see (or create) a service for UNO that pulls from the books of all UNO listings on all markets, just a trade bot eventually.

Right now it would take team of OTC desk traders, but in 12 months things will streamline, would like to know more about the Quatloo, Ruby, and other trade bots coin projects.

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Blueman
i've always thought UNO community should strive to back the value with physicals (gold or silver)
so hang with the goldbugs http://www.jsmineset.com/  www.sgtreport.com bixweir rule

but your comment on artwork is very intriguing

linking UNO to rare existing Artwork, future Art projects and most importantly Artist ... plus it fits with the brand name better than standard commodities

thanks for the inspiration  

disagree some bit.  but agree on this bit: 'UNO is more of a factor for mining over the long term'

for the ASIC farms UNO offers not much (under 4kg/day), but given the fact that they also harvest BTC and NameCoin, it might led them to think about accumulation.  And yes they are the 1st to 'own' a bitcoin.

that is to say there is incentive for them to not only up the hash rate, but to also pay some attention to the rate of exchange, and they hold the coin choice to raise the price.

TO REPEAT; ASIC farmer balance sheet ... earnings in last 24hrs ... 45 BTC ... 0.0567kg UNO ... hmmm ... which market to support and which to sell
off?  


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@BlueMan.

masterpiece brother!  that is a work of ART!

"a bread-and butter or REAL-world economy around itself"

Key Point worth a repeat.

Hey Doge Community ... wanna start the next revolution in crypto ... become the coin of choice for the ALT market ... BTC is for the uber rich to play their uber rich games ... Doge can be the common mans coin ... and the ALTs (if they are smart) will work within the Doge ecomony rather than the high stakes BTC markets ... which run 95% of the capital ... it is insane to even think of going head to head with such a 'cornered' and 'whale market'.  Not say BTC is bad, just bad for the ALTs use as the 'reserve' to support their value.

So Doge lead the way.  WooF!

like the design, slow blocks, null inflation after year 3, actually well thought out calibration for a SHA POW

VOTE
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Home/Voting

nec 'neo' is still alive ... very allusive coin ... old launch working stakes
http://www.almightycoins.org/explorer/neocoin
believe still listed on bter too!

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BOUNTY
300 TALK for node list and block explorer for CACHe

BOUNTY
30 TALK for whom ever gets almightycoins to stop by this thread to talk about NEO and CLOUD

re: my goals to reduce exchange holdings
*mine too!!*

Think Different.  UNO is a unique product.  

Chasing the daily volume with a rare coin is not practical.  And the better aim is to have UNO function as EQUITY in a greater framework.  Subsidiary products- or brands - can flux and trade in big liquid numbers, UNO is more like a Berkshire share.

Also the spot price doesn't need to be dialed into the exact penny or satoshi, it can vary from market to market, and one market leads on Monday, another on Tuesday, randomly.

**personal opinion**

Where I am intending to focus my trades:

Cryptopia altcoin/UNO markets
LTC/DOGE on Bleutrade
$/UNO ... later once a platform is known
uno/bitcoin .... WHOLESALE lots ... round bids ... like 1 BTC for 101.95 kg

Enough persons are naturally concerned with the UNO/BTC trading that I pay it little mind.  Also it is a bit foolish to play poker with a coin that holds 95% of the chips (if we go by market capital).  Coins like LTC, Doge or even DASH, NXT, PPC, can be directly traded and have sufficient liquidity.  

There is much less risk of being eaten alive by bear-whale bitcoin sharks.
Really think about it, if I had a $million in btc I could break any ALT coin except maybe XRP, LTC, or ETH.
But it would be much less easy to kill a coin community that doesn't want bitcoin in exchange.  
ALTs for ALTs.  Bitcoin is for billionares.  Really ... see ... the Zapo advisors, or those twin who almost owned Facebook but got Zuck'd.

Point is forget volume, figure how to use UNO to store value ... that means flip other assets ... say ... forex CNY/$ ... online poker winnings ... day trading stocks ... shorting ETH ... whatever ... but when you need a battery to store that value won ... UNO is that kind of coin.  

What's your profitanium vault?


the dollar?
LOL
it is not even a coin anymore, not since Nixon

i liked BWs suggested alias for UNO ... "Bitcoin Elite"
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seem to be lots of music recording projects ( i know of at least 7)
i would suggest watching Funk, Audio, and Song (uno base paired) ((still unclear on their soundness))

"The Cryptsy campaign was a huge success IMO"
Agree.  UNO community is likely one of the better coins to have escaped, given it was our #1 market for years.
DASH, Doge, and other higher profile coins still don't know, or don't want to discuss how many coins are held by Project Investors.

Another positive direction is that the UNO market has become very decentralized.
Here a new exchange https://safecex.com/market?q=UNO/BTC
[note the bulk order option] <<<  
plus the cryptopia UNO market is developing a diverse market and direct swaps for other good crypto coins (and goods / services)
plus shapeshift ... reach out to them let'm know you like the fact that UNO is listed

And there are many more lesser known markets.  This is a nice attribute of UNO.  Many markets, few coins.
Bittrex is standing in primer market position.  Would be nice to get UNO traded on POLO or other higher profile exchange in 2016.
Still looking at the NXT exchange (or similar) also. [see metaexchange, openledger, NXTsecureAE]

A major selling point for UNO, IMO ... the asset you hold in your hand, you hold the keys, and you take it to market in small amounts.  Where most other Top100 are very dependent on the exchanges and stacking the order books.  That puts the coin and the communities capital (BTC) at risk to a 3rd party.  

Last would like to see an exchange that UNO community controls.
Something that the mentioned Foundation would manage and like shapeshift / blake exchange [automatic swaps].

and yet rock bottom price  but looking at the books just trying to grab 1Ton quick would likely double the spot, and quadruple the hash 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786993.0
 Best Proof of Stake coins █████ Voting Poll █████
September 18, 2014, 08:52:29 AM

so market cap wrap
AMZN $360B (produced less than $2B in net profits in 25 years)
Silver $70B (5 billion ounces)
BTC $6B
UNO $0.0002B (yet the most rare share)

well my favorite web wallet is Cryptsy
it was my first wallet
i've been with them for a long time now
THUS
yes they can be trusted

https://wbbshop.com/ WBB

lots of 600-700 day accounts
unfazed as all ways
HODL!

;?

UNO last 3 days http://pastebin.com/XJftcEKu

Date   Type   Price Each (BTC)   OSC Traded   Total BTC
Date
   
Type
   
Price Each (BTC)
   
OSC Traded
   
Total BTC
2016-01-12 17:47:08   Sell   0.00000050   2352.64165679   0.00117632
2016-01-12 17:47:08   Sell   0.00000050   1.75000000   0.00000088
2016-01-12 17:47:08   Sell   0.00000050   1.10000000   0.00000055
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000051   1.00000000   0.00000051
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000051   82348.40097898   0.04199768
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000052   4707.55419757   0.00244793
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000054   12962.90400000   0.00699997
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000054   9259.20400000   0.00499997
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000054   7069.29529802   0.00381742
2016-01-12 17:47:00   Sell   0.00000055   10000.00000000   0.00550000
2016-01-11 00:24:50   Sell   0.00000054   2189.90870198   0.00118255
2016-01-11 00:24:50   Sell   0.00000054   7917.55167402   0.00427548
2016-01-10 17:58:32   Buy   0.00000062   7362.94135518   0.00456502
2016-01-10 17:58:32   Buy   0.00000061   1615.74260148   0.00098560
2016-01-10 17:58:32   Buy   0.00000060   846.18154280   0.00050771
2016-01-10 13:17:37   Sell   0.00000054   25.91792800   0.00001400
2016-01-10 08:25:05   Sell   0.00000054   1315.73439798   0.00071050
2016-01-10 08:25:05   Sell   0.00000054   8684.26560202   0.00468950
2016-01-10 04:19:52   Sell   0.00000054   574.93839798   0.00031047
2016-01-09 10:20:16   Buy   0.00000063   100.00000000   0.00006300
2016-01-09 10:10:12   Sell   0.00000054   300.00000000   0.00016200
2016-01-09 02:07:02   Sell   0.00000054   181.44735700   0.00009798
2016-01-08 16:11:06   Sell   0.00000054   15.71680400   0.00000849
2016-01-07 13:19:41   Sell   0.00000054   5993.61960000   0.00323655
2016-01-06 19:45:29   Sell   0.00000055   1715.74260148   0.00094366
2016-01-06 15:20:57   Sell   0.00000054   872.15759418   0.00047097
2016-01-06 10:30:36   Sell   0.00000052   68491.50303260   0.03561558
2016-01-06 10:30:36   Sell   0.00000053   10000.00000000   0.00530000
2016-01-06 10:30:36   Sell   0.00000054   9903.65414634   0.00534797
2016-01-06 10:30:36   Sell   0.00000055   846.18154280   0.00046540
2016-01-06 10:25:32   Sell   0.00000056   8928.50400000   0.00499996
2016-01-06 10:25:32   Sell   0.00000056   8928.50400000   0.00499996
2016-01-06 09:30:51   Buy   0.00000068   1362.26298430   0.00092634
2016-01-03 12:13:23   Sell   0.00000055   151.31009600   0.00008322
2016-01-03 11:46:48   Buy   0.00000056   1990.49160000   0.00111468
2016-01-02 12:57:00   Buy   0.00000056   10.00000000   0.00000560
2016-01-01 11:09:14   Sell   0.00000055   1000.00000000   0.00055000
2015-12-31 15:52:29   Sell   0.00000055   2.50836120   0.00000138
2015-12-28 14:14:44   Sell   0.00000054   96.34585366   0.00005203
2015-12-27 19:47:33   Sell   0.00000053   3.12800000   0.00000166
2015-12-27 16:05:25   Sell   0.00000053   4000.00000000   0.00212000
2015-12-27 03:36:53   Sell   0.00000054   341.14123571   0.00018422
2015-12-27 01:42:14   Sell   0.00000054   1058.85876429   0.00057178
2015-12-26 16:49:16   Buy   0.00000079   1047.35066504   0.00082741
2015-12-26 07:44:11   Buy   0.00000078   1075.49089489   0.00083888
2015-12-26 03:15:30   Buy   0.00000079   352.03417122   0.00027811
2015-12-25 20:33:18   Buy   0.00000076   41.26315789   0.00003136
2015-12-25 20:31:42   Buy   0.00000075   6.58363208   0.00000494
2015-12-25 04:25:06   Sell   0.00000052   1708.48676428   0.00088841
2015-12-25 01:31:23   Sell   0.00000053   6.58363208   0.00000349
2015-12-24 23:41:34   Buy   0.00000075   600.81084947   0.00045061
2015-12-24 18:23:45   Buy   0.00000074   643.42590507   0.00047614
2015-12-24 12:36:06   Sell   0.00000052   10755.25235234   0.00559273
2015-12-24 12:36:06   Sell   0.00000054   6400.00000000   0.00345600
2015-12-24 12:36:06   Sell   0.00000055   19486.49367941   0.01071757
2015-12-24 01:33:58   Sell   0.00000055   1397.81535086   0.00076880
2015-12-23 21:41:24   Buy   0.00000075   934.88012026   0.00070116
2015-12-23 19:58:18   Sell   0.00000055   1535.69096973   0.00084463
2015-12-23 12:38:15   Buy   0.00000076   1077.41284457   0.00081883
2015-12-23 10:35:18   Sell   0.00000056   38.38231902   0.00002149
2015-12-23 09:06:46   Sell   0.00000056   247.44796002   0.00013857
2015-12-23 08:38:35   Buy   0.00000076   0.67105263   0.00000051
2015-12-23 05:57:34   Buy   0.00000076   451.43522829   0.00034309
2015-12-23 04:35:10   Sell   0.00000056   643.47453315   0.00036035
2015-12-23 03:20:27   Sell   0.00000056   2157.34681115   0.00120811
2015-12-23 01:42:56   Buy   0.00000076   878.05996403   0.00066733
2015-12-22 20:26:32   Sell   0.00000056   650.06109677   0.00036403
2015-12-22 16:55:05   Buy   0.00000078   692.61435514   0.00054024
2015-12-22 10:57:07   Sell   0.00000056   419.77600717   0.00023507
2015-12-22 06:00:50   Buy   0.00000077   294.77083457   0.00022697
2015-12-22 03:24:33   Sell   0.00000056   760.43908783   0.00042585
2015-12-21 20:35:59   Sell   0.00000057   1137.95361478   0.00064863
2015-12-21 18:51:26   Buy   0.00000076   1141.85673663   0.00086781
2015-12-21 17:00:54   Sell   0.00000057   198.08664543   0.00011291
2015-12-21 07:31:12   Sell   0.00000056   1483.07218489   0.00083052
2015-12-20 23:21:20   Buy   0.00000078   472.15684686   0.00036828
2015-12-20 20:41:02   Buy   0.00000077   482.57173605   0.00037158
2015-12-20 20:41:02   Buy   0.00000077   176.42163626   0.00013584
2015-12-20 19:06:33   Sell   0.00000057   517.42826395   0.00029493
2015-12-20 13:22:43   Buy   0.00000077   307.46945105   0.00023675
2015-12-20 08:38:48   Buy   0.00000077   516.10891269   0.00039740
2015-12-19 15:19:17   Sell   0.00000057   2.57173605   0.00000147
2015-12-19 15:13:55   Sell   0.00000057   480.00000000   0.00027360
2015-12-18 06:44:25   Buy   0.00000078   1447.75641026   0.00112925
2015-12-16 17:50:52   Sell   0.00000052   1.13176662   0.00000059
2015-12-16 17:41:06   Sell   0.00000052   7.52356197   0.00000391
2015-12-16 17:35:15   Sell   0.00000052   7031.88093398   0.00365658
2015-12-16 17:35:15   Sell   0.00000053   712.34526893   0.00037754
2015-12-16 17:35:15   Sell   0.00000054   6400.00000000   0.00345600
2015-12-16 17:35:15   Sell   0.00000056   6400.00000000   0.00358400
2015-12-15 16:46:09   Buy   0.00000081   5.83859524   0.00000473
2015-12-15 16:05:55   Buy   0.00000074   10126.92593430   0.00749393
2015-12-15 16:05:55   Buy   0.00000075   10911.98640132   0.00818399
2015-12-15 16:05:55   Buy   0.00000072   865.65277778   0.00062327
2015-12-15 15:01:47   Sell   0.00000053   285.36149467   0.00015124
2015-12-15 07:28:32   Sell   0.00000053   2.29323640   0.00000122
2015-12-15 07:18:14   Buy   0.00000072   134.34722222   0.00009673
2015-12-12 02:35:58   Sell   0.00000052   2.29653387   0.00000119
2015-12-12 02:31:43   Sell   0.00000052   12000.00000000   0.00624000
2015-12-09 04:15:22   Buy   0.00000081   3.23016577   0.00000262
2015-12-09 04:14:21   Sell   0.00000052   4333.10162600   0.00225321
2015-12-09 04:14:21   Sell   0.00000054   900.00000000   0.00048600
2015-12-08 04:41:00   Sell   0.00000054   100.00000000   0.00005400
2015-12-08 03:26:24   Buy   0.00000073   4250.00000000   0.00310250
2015-12-06 06:24:27   Sell   0.00000054   4.07703784   0.00000220
2015-12-06 06:22:54   Buy   0.00000071   780.52112676   0.00055417
2015-12-05 05:55:06   Sell   0.00000054   7.22875925   0.00000390
2015-12-05 05:49:42   Sell   0.00000054   11764.06975877   0.00635260
2015-12-04 05:50:40   Sell   0.00000051   4.07597055   0.00000208

Cry deleting data as I type

Sell out to white knight, new base pair, orderly with draw

1.  12k BTC is the claim, and supposedly now reduced to 10k via running a ponzi exchange for nearly 2 years.
2.  likely still more but 10k btc is easy math  
3.  New owner assumes the debt but needs just 1cent on the $ to get things back up.  
4.  This means only 100 BTC pledged, and creditors are given BTC and LTC 'Cry' tokens that can be trade/sold, the new owner with that 100 BTC stack pledges to be buyer of last resort @ 1 penny.
5.  In the mean time a liquid (likely ripple) acts as the base pair since BTC and LTC markets are very broken
6.  ALT coin holders can trade and exit
7.  In a few months BTC and LTC  markets can be restarted, granted anyone still wants to trade there
8.  Despite the debacle Cryptsy is an established market/business $50-$90k seems a bargain
9.  "Going bankrupt will be more than a quagmire" it would be a nightmare.  And it is to the benefit of BTC, LTC, XRP, Doge, Dash, and NXT whales to fund some kind of take over that makes all but the BTC/LTC creditors whole and avoids crypto getting tossed into deeper regulatory waters.

that's the real info.

12ooo Bitcoin
3ook LTC
DASH ... imagine 25%
Doge .... at least 20%
NXT, Ripple, all had big Cry markets
(not to mention how many BTC where on deposit to provide price support so 12K btc might be much more)

+50 locked up coins ... so there was no escape for them.

UNO community saw the problem and were able to turn 20% of the supply into 7%.

XPY is totally crushed I would guess +40% of the coins are in Verns hands.
 

bigger question

Are the Hearn, BigVern, and the BTC market down turn all related?

The bitcoin whales are becoming more and more a collective of hacker/thieves.  Eventually about $6B in market capital is going to try to squeeze into the alt market.  The Cryptsy chaos seems an effective event to muddy the ALT waters.