I have some questions
1. why Monero can cost 200 $ ?
2. why shitcoin like electroneum costs 0.05 c and going to cost 0.2 in near future ?
3. Why shield cant get up to 1 $ ?
3) Because it will cost 1sat in the nearest future. |
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We aren't talking about prices five years ago, we're talking about right now and the last couple months. You've been able to make more by holding BTC then buying mining equipment for the last five or so months.
Yeah, seems you're a victim of your own logic. As I've already mentioned BTC, currency is fluid. Meaning instead of holding it you can sell and buy mining equipment. You CAN'T do that with mining equipment, mentioning this for the third time because you keep seemingly overlook it.
No, you didn't manage to catch up with BTC, your math is seriously flawed. It's all percent based dude. This last month BTC increased in value 54%, the amount you earned back on that GPU is 19%, that compounds, which you're attempting to do, but also forget that applies to BTC as well. Meaning if you earn more, that will in return also earn you more. I'm not sure why you're stuck on GPUs being some weird sort of magic money creator that doesn't apply to other parts of investing.
And also, no you didn't make 3x ROI in five months. That's fucking retarded. That means on that $2500 you were earning $1500 a month. Based on $2500 I'm going to assume it's a 6x1070 rig. At $2.5 a day (completely disregarding power costs), you earned $450 a month. Meaning you still haven't quite ROI'd in five months. Otherwise you were earning $7.5 a day per card, what coins have you been mining these last couple months? Profits haven't been that good since the beginning of summer and it only lasted for about a month. And no your cards aren't worth 4x their value. They're worth less now then when you bought them as they've been depreciating. The closer we get to new release of GPUs the more they'll depreciate. $400 in BTC is still worth $400 (actually it'd be worth a lot more now as BTC has been appreciating). GPUs don't appreciate
'But what if' is not what we're talking about. I wasn't talking about fantasy. BTC increased by 54% over the last month as of making that post. I'm not even sure why you're doing 'what if's', this isn't make believe.
If you have problems with maths - don't call someone retarded - it is solely your problem. If 10K invested in GPU's made 35K in 5 months - it is 3.5xROI. Additionally 10K in GPU's cost even more now. So in 5 months 10K => at least 45K. 10K invested in BTC => 40K today Return to school boy - don't look more foolish than you are. |
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Hi guys, Mining and Staking Trezar here. The ccminer KlausT version get more hash with 1070 or 1080s 1060 is the same as ccminer 2.2.2 Nice increase in price this week!  Do you have a link for the miner. Whats your hashrate? 1060/6G - 900+ 1070 - 1250+ 1080 - 1200- 1080ti - 1400+ |
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P.S. Is there any analog of nvidia-smi for AMD?
overdriventool can be called via command line to set clocks, volts, fans, etc, but can't query information. It's sad. I need go query info, as it seems that it is the only way to make vega's work most of the time. |
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Normal hashrates. 1080  1080ti  |
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I got a problem. 1 gpu hashrate crashed to 0. There are 2 problems with it 1) Total hashrate doesnt change - it shows hashrate for 3GPU not 2 2) It shows hasrate on the dropped GPU1 and zero hashrate on GPU2, but as you can see the temperature shows that it is wrong.  Hashrate reported via api is also the same. So - restarting script doesn't work because hashrate pretends to be normal. P.S. Is there any analog of nvidia-smi for AMD? |
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As I understand code optimization failed, so there is only one way left - to OC core.  Looks like it. Show plz result with default miner and with your miner, and core setting. But not dashboard, raw hashing more interesting. I did a few posts ago.(Scroll back) on the 1070ti and the 750ti Same clocks and settings. 1070ti: ccminer 2.2.2: 2.1 MHASH ccminer sp-mod 2.42MHASH 750ti: ccminer 2.2.2: 220 MHASH ccminer sp-mod 440 MHASH Any more popular GPU's to compare your hashrate for opensource miner? |
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Here is the results of the nighty build. Same hardware. Yesterday I finetuned the clocks on my cards and managed to squieze out another +4-5%  As I understand code optimization failed, so there is only one way left - to OC core. |
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Where is the button "vote"? i think dev pay for listing with the donation.. becouse free listing was not successful Think it could be better to get funds to for being listed on topia, yobit listing gives a scam reputation to coin imo. But yobit is very good with PND shitcoins. So XSH will be the right place |
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Oh Yess! A good exchange! How much users they have? Moon? Moon! Hodl! Good exchange? Really? "Good" is at least coinexchange.io or cryptopia. |
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I visit this thread to get information about SP work, but what I can see? Some guys are getting elementary skill of economics. Not bad.
Look at theory of missed opportunities and avoided risks as well.
Thats because sp_ is quiet. Can't troll his "improvements" |
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PSA: It's still much more profitable to buy BTC and hold it then mine cryptos.
If you bought a 1070 a month ago for $400 it would have made you roughly $75 ($2.5 x 30). BTC increased by 56% over the last month (you could've made more if you bought and sold at big peaks), that same investment of $400 would have earned you $224 or $7.5 per day. More then three times what you could earn mining. That $400 is also very fluid, meaning you can buy/sell/reinvest/buy equipment with it. That 1070 is now a asset and can't be easily sold or repurposed.
Have fun.
Here's a PSA: If you bought a 1070 a month ago it would still be worth $400 today and you'd have that $75. In fact, repeat that over the course of a year and we can buy several more GPUs and several more $75 earnings. I bet in 5 years from now you can still sell a 1070 for at least $200. Who knows what the price of bitcoin will be. Either way, invest in bitcoin or invest in GPUs... it doesn't matter and is totally up to the individual. If I'm boring then I'll just buy bitcion and vegetate while watching TWD. If I'm super cool crypto guy I'll mine That doesn't even make sense? That's $224 in addition to $400. Your money doesn't disappear and you sell if BTC starts pooping. It's a percent dude. You invest in a couple GPUs, you'd invest in more BTC and that BTC would make you even more money. That GPU returned 19%, the same investment in BTC returned 54%. No, no one is buying a 1070 for $200 in five years. Based on a quick ebay of a 670 (which came out 5 years ago), you're looking at $70 and that's if you can find someone willing to buy them. In addition to that I don't think you understand the logistics of selling lots of GPUs. eBay and Paypal will take about 12% of that as well, you'll have to spend time and labor on doing so, and of course shipping costs. I don't think you understand investment. A GPU, a BTC, they're both investments only BTC is super fluid as I already mentioned. GPUs are not fluid. You can't just sell your GPUs on a whim and shift to an entirely different market. Mining isn't about buying one GPU and mining with it, it's about diversifying your assets and maximizing profits. Yup, mining is about 'being cool'. I'm sure you'll keep that mindset if earnings ever go negative. People like to compare where their comparison looks good. I have another example. Btc was 2500 when I invested in New rigs. In 5months I got 3xROI. So it is x4 of value. Btc the same time made x4 and is 10k now. So I've managed only to catch up with btc. But what if btc stayed on 2500? Of cause I wouldn't make 3xRoi but 1xRoi anyway. |
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It also seems like people dont know what a premine is. A premine is the genesis block being worth a crap. That didnt happen. That is obvious from the explorer
Yes fools like this explanation of premine. Have you ever heard about hidden premine? 8K in first days with faulty common pools - thats it, obviously. Way to go Elmer FUD. Are you saying the linux wallet could not be mined to solo? There are some smaller GPU miners that were doing just that. Why do you need a pool to mine XSH again? Crickets on Dev splitting the top 5 wallets now?  I'm sorry but I can't help you, if you don't understand that 8000coins with superfast blocks at the beginning is hidden premine. Yes someone else could also mine but there were a lot of problems on this way: with pools - few algos were available (actually 1 or 2), too many orfans etc. So who has the advantage to mine first? Of course dev - thats why it is called hidden premine. It is common practice - no pools, no miners, no wallets, delays with ann etc. These are the means to get hidden premine. Choose any and you will get it. P.S. Now dev is very busy patching vulnerabilities in his copypasta code Superfast blocks to mine that anyone reading the ANN could mine, was unfair. Got it. Now you are basically calling the king of crypto, Bitcoin a scam. Not to mention Ethereum as well. And basically every other POW based coin without instamine protection for the first 100% of the mineable blocks. First block mined. That address's second block mined was at height 191. I see that you avoid 8K coins per block at the beginning compared to equivalent of 80coins now - yes it becomes not so comfortable to explain "no hidden premine". |
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It also seems like people dont know what a premine is. A premine is the genesis block being worth a crap. That didnt happen. That is obvious from the explorer
Yes fools like this explanation of premine. Have you ever heard about hidden premine? 8K in first days with faulty common pools - thats it, obviously. Way to go Elmer FUD. Are you saying the linux wallet could not be mined to solo? There are some smaller GPU miners that were doing just that. Why do you need a pool to mine XSH again? Crickets on Dev splitting the top 5 wallets now? I'm sorry but I can't help you, if you don't understand that 8000coins with superfast blocks at the beginning is hidden premine. Yes someone else could also mine but there were a lot of problems on this way: with pools - few algos were available (actually 1 or 2), too many orfans etc. So who has the advantage to mine first? Of course dev - thats why it is called hidden premine. It is common practice - no pools, no miners, no wallets, delays with ann etc. These are the means to get hidden premine. Choose any and you will get it. P.S. Now dev is very busy patching vulnerabilities in his copypasta code are you interested in this coin mate? have you invested in it? I already said - have kilotons of XSH to dump in fools hands. |
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And 47coins were sold for today. Very liquid market there  |
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It also seems like people dont know what a premine is. A premine is the genesis block being worth a crap. That didnt happen. That is obvious from the explorer
Yes fools like this explanation of premine. Have you ever heard about hidden premine? 8K in first days with faulty common pools - thats it, obviously. Way to go Elmer FUD. Are you saying the linux wallet could not be mined to solo? There are some smaller GPU miners that were doing just that. Why do you need a pool to mine XSH again? Crickets on Dev splitting the top 5 wallets now? I'm sorry but I can't help you, if you don't understand that 8000coins with superfast blocks at the beginning is hidden premine. Yes someone else could also mine but there were a lot of problems on this way: with pools - few algos were available (actually 1 or 2), too many orfans etc. So who has the advantage to mine first? Of course dev - thats why it is called hidden premine. It is common practice - no pools, no miners, no wallets, delays with ann etc. These are the means to get hidden premine. Choose any and you will get it. P.S. Now dev is very busy patching vulnerabilities in his copypasta code |
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Some people are spreading FUD just to buy cheaper, don't pay attention to them. abudfv2008: У тебя настолько пригорело от недополученных 3к шилдов с пула, что уже два месяца бомбит? Закончил бы уже позориться.
Чу херней страдаешь. Ценник вниз давлю - покупать надо Уймись уже, мамкин манипулятор Ну вон с ~115 уже ниже 80 сходили. Давим давим |
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It also seems like people dont know what a premine is. A premine is the genesis block being worth a crap. That didnt happen. That is obvious from the explorer
Yes fools like this explanation of premine. Have you ever heard about hidden premine? 8K in first days with faulty common pools - thats it, obviously. |
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Is there any console utility for AMD to get GPU usage like nvidia-smi?
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SHIELD is a bubble that's gonna burst, it's a fad, a scam, it's going back to 1 satoshi. See, it's crashing... ©
It is obvious PND coin. First pump is done. Dev also tries to hide his premine by dividing his top 5 wallets to smaller ones. But there are still megatons of shitXSH to dump in fools hands. Get ready for the second pump in a while, I think now he has enough to pay for better exchange with new "investors" to dump his shitXSH. |
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