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481  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 10, 2015, 05:03:14 AM
Who is xmk3 and who put him in charge? I thought Jonah was hired to liquidate everything.

xmk3 is Mathew Eden I believe.. he's the tech dude we saw in the early XPY hangouts meetings (the famous hangout video about lowering the stake rate of PC).  CTI (Chief Technology Officer) of BCI (BlockChain Innovation Inc.) the company mandated to phase out ZenCloud.  I don't believe Maviator is part of the company.  Don't you remember Josh saying Mathew this, Mathew that...

I'm going off memory, you could be right..  I'm sure if someone can track down that contract between GAW and BCI it will all make sense.

I believe Maviator was only granted access to unlock accounts, if he was behind the phasing out process he would have a lot more access than he has.


All these so called "contracts" between these inexperienced self-promoting kids hiding behind their GoDaddy web sites and online Delaware registered shell companies are not worth the bandwidth it takes to generate the status PDF's. Likewise, all these wannabe industry "insiders" with their cooked up company titles are criminals directly or by association in my opinion and should be exiled from any/all things crypto for life.

It is no secrete I place this Jonah guy in the same category and have done so since he sat there and smiled/laughed as Garza would trash talked me and others who spoke the TRUTH last fall during a few of their little video chats. I *almost* find it funny, but a little taxing on my patience, to see some of these guys here providing what some may call support or "trying" to contribute something of value to the discussion when in reality they should be with Garza behind bars.

At any rate... back to work...

Scott-

Scott, thanks for the post. This will likely get lost in the noise but you are spot on.
Interesting how the thread exploded with support issues right after your post...  lol
482  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 09, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
Well, it would appear that if people want their zencloud accounts unlocked they will have to post here Smiley

https://talk.paycoin.com/discussion/1322/cannot-withdraw-xpy-from-zencloud/p1


Hey, been searchin for a week to unlock my zenportal account. Kindly unlock my account please..

my username is noduj28.

Thanks!

Contact Homero Garza to fix your issues.  We tried to warn you about this months ago, stop bothering us.  Funny that you come to the "trolls" forum to fix the massive fuck up your golden boy Garza handed you.  Paycoin is worthless, who cares if you can get into your account.  Keep this shit on the paycoin forums you fucking idiot.

Don't be so harsh....

My bad.  It is just getting annoying seeing these Zencloud help posts, several per page.  They do nothing but bash and disregard this forum until they need it for something.  They are coming here to be bailed out from Homero's mess, that they so vocally supported for months on end.  Why should we have to endure this?

Seriously they have no option.  They cant get help elsewhere

We (or most of us) wanted to help them avoid being scammed or at least get out as best they can.  This allows that.

Also just maybe if we dont have posts like this they may learn we are not the enemy and may become valuable members of the community.

I never quite got who or why they made them come here for support?  I can see the irony of having them come here but why doesn't ZenCloud handle it's own support (the company phasing it down), after all, they made the change to 2FA auth after Authy shut them down for non payment, they could have simply removed it (2FA) and let is phase out if they didn't want to deal with support... They have a couple Prime Controllers, it's not like they couldn't replenish the supply in case of accounts being hacked.

I think this is he only place they can come. Former CEO Jonah got banned from most of the other forums but still posts here and has the ability to unlock accounts.
Jonah banned on talk.paycoin.com ?

Maybe?

I've been able to figure out this was a scam without leaving this website, I try to point it out and help people out from here. I have much more important things to do than sort through which website is which, which team of assholes is running which scammy project. For some reason people want to get back into their zencloud accounts, by some stroke of luck they need to come here to do it. The whole thing is a fucking mess and the sooner people dump and move on the better.

The account is unlocked.   

I've been asking what the point of locking accounts permanently for 2FA failures is as it seems quite ridiculous.


A company built on fraud and deceit no longer supports even the basic infrastructure for the remaining bag holders and you are surprised ? of course it's ridiculous, but quite expected from this scam.

Hell, I have a zencloud account that is likely locked out but I am not asking for assistance here or anywhere (it's a negative balance anyway, lol) cause I wrote Josh the clown and all his minions completely off back in october / december
483  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 07:03:43 AM
Can we have a few more Zencloud unlock requests please? I think it's funny as fuck that paycoin bagholders have to come to this evil trollfudster forum to ask for help.

The actual bag holders with large amounts of free xpee are not coming here for help, but "funny as fuck" ? yes ....indeed lol

sweet sweet irony. now they have to come to the fudders and trolls who destroyed their coin to get to their coins... Cheesy

and feel bad you should, for helping to destroy such an admirable and honorable coin whose only intention was the betterment of mankind (or some such horse shit)
484  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 06:55:35 AM
Lets see if I got this right.

Paycoin was formerly named Hashcoin, and it emerged out of the mining section of bitcointalk.

It did not. GAW had their own forum since June 2014 and did not use Bitcointalk for business. They concocted Paycoin XPY in November 2014.

So paycoin took a different route to begin with, than most other coins take.

But what is it that is giving people incentive or motivating people to buy paycoins?

I am curious, I see paycoin did quite well and has been up high on the leader boards at cryptsy for some time.

There is a reason why Paycoin is not doing so well anymore. You should look into that.

Thank you for replying to me, but your answer isn't very clear.

Not only did paycoin emerge out of the mining section,

It did not. See above.

but it also has this thread which is in the bitcoin section of the forum, when alot of other 'altcoins' are restricted to posting only in the altcoin section at bitcointalk.
And this thread is amongst the top 10 busiest threads at bitcointalk.

Can you say why this thread is here, and not in the altcoin section of the forum?

You are the first person in 2000 pages to not grasp what the thread is about. If there is anything in the title or the OP to lead you to believe that this is an altcoin thread - let me know, I'll see if I can fix it. The thread is about GAW and other Mr. Garza's ventures, one of which may have included Paycoin XPY but there is a lot more to that than just a coin.

I read much of the op.

Read all of it.

You want me to read 40000 posts? It said in the op to read the most recent 10 pages, which is 200 posts, I am not going to do that, so I skim a little to get a rough idea about things.

Oh.

Well, your method of skimming doesn't work and you're not even reading replies to your posts here, so I'm not sure if you can be helped.

Are you saying that altcoins are allowed to post in this service discussion forum?(there is an altcoin marketplace and services forum for altcoins)

It is a topic about multiple different matters, with paycoin in the midst of that discussion, and it has paycoin/xpy in the title of the thread.
I am not going to debate over this, I am simply noting that paycoin is an altcoin, and wondering why this thread isn't in the altcoin section, so I asked why, but no one really answered the question truthfully yet.

You not liking the answer doesn't mean it's not truthful. Are you related to ikeboy by any chance?

From what I have read, I discern that paycoin emerged out of the mining section of the forum,

It did not.

taking a different route than an announcement thread in the altcoin>announcements section of the forum.

Creating a scandal over 'josh garza' and these other issues, isn't that a subtle way to indirectly advertise paycoin? (I have been accused of this type of thing when I tried to post on bitcointalk, and had several threads deleted by mods, even though I was posting in the altcoin section, let alone trying to post here like paycoin is doing, so am wondering what is going on)

I am trying to understand what it is that makes an altcoin become successful like paycoin is successful.

It is important to gain some understanding, when thinking of buying/investing any altcoin.

You are not gaining any understanding if you are refusing to read and just repeating your own narrative.

Isn't that why this thread is here, to advertise paycoin?

No. Read the OP and let me know which part of it leads you to believe it is advertising Paycoin.

I read the OP, so I know this thread is about multiple different money making business ventures.

No. You didn't and it isn't. Read the OP and let me know which part of it leads you to believe the business ventures mentioned in it are making money and for whom.


Suchmoon,  I tried with "nope, try again" but that didn't work.... great post!
485  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 06:50:37 AM
Can we have a few more Zencloud unlock requests please? I think it's funny as fuck that paycoin bagholders have to come to this evil trollfudster forum to ask for help.

The actual bag holders with large amounts of free xpee are not coming here for help, but "funny as fuck" ? yes ....indeed lol
486  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 06:45:55 AM
I just want to see when PYC and CON pass XPY in market cap.

That will be a sweet sweet day

perhaps for you, just shitcoins passing around IMHO
487  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 06:18:30 AM
Always diversify your losses! You don't want one scammer getting too fat on your sadness.
Conventionality belongs to yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQX9qvsk838

hey Dave01,

here's the MotherLoad you were looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaobNoR0Og0

please notice the song title! just for you ( well and the gawtards)

super ninja edit: the Man on the Horse with a Lantern has been explaining this for a while!
488  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 06:10:07 AM
Since the SEC/FBI work like molasses in antarctica there was no charges filed by the time he got stateside and he is now free in the US most likely attempting to get to belgium.
So I'm guessing they didn't seize his passport upon his return ?

Good Lord...

None of this traveled here or traveled there makes any real sense. I have followed this thread since (hold on checking history...) page 400. I still haven't seen or read anything that convinces me of anyone's where a bouts including CEOpig. Dubai, Belgium, Texas ? all just bullshit. IMHO

ninja edit: not saying Garbonzo aint traveling ....
well anyone not being Carlos who flipped a car recently
489  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 05:58:42 AM
hi guys , i need help , what do you think abou XPY ? i buy 16000 XPY at rate 0.00049 and still hold until now , maybe i should sell or stiil Hold until $20/XPY very soon ?

yes, you should HODL, xpee is expected to loose the lose bag holders soon.

edit: also yes $20/xpee soon
490  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 06, 2015, 05:55:39 AM
Hope I am posting this in the correct place.  I am locked out of my zencloud account.  Can someone unlock it?  mfitze
lol go back to HashTalk pls

Your shit is worthless now anyway. Why even bother

HashTalk does not allow for unlocking zencloud accounts or talking about btclend.  Neither does paycointalk or hashclub or gethashing or any other crypto forum which is not bitcointalk.

And mfitze you are unlocked.

so the only forum that allows unfettered conversation and topics is now ZENCLOUD support central!

"I want to be unlocked two, before I loose any moire xpee. their is not much time left before the cashtakers become kraken and they're xpee are released"
491  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 08:29:44 AM

accusing potential investors is a really big turnoff by the way. Where did some people learn their public relations skills?

If you're claiming XPY Paycoin to be a 'success' then you're exactly the kind of 'investor' a certain Homero Joshua Garza would like to meet.

Don't worry if you are on any international anti-terrorism watch-lists, or if you have what are colloquially referred to as, 'banking problems', Homero Joshua Garza will happily take your money and promise you massive profits 'soon'.

Complaints? Take a ticket and a seat.

 

potential investors! i.e. investors=newbagholders
492  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:43:18 AM


Lets see if I got this right.

Paycoin was formerly named Hashcoin, and it emerged out of the mining section of bitcointalk.

So paycoin took a different route to begin with, than most other coins take.

But what is it that is giving people incentive or motivating people to buy paycoins?

I am curious, I see paycoin did quite well and has been up high on the leader boards at cryptsy for some time.

ahh, you may be thinking of the original paycoin which this is not. This paycoin took the name after cloning peercoin and was created to recover a virtual mining company that sold PNG's as miners.

there was a dispute between the paycoin (last dev?) and GAW which is early in this thread.


nope. try again.

Thank you for replying to me, but your answer isn't very clear.

Not only did paycoin emerge out of the mining section, but it also has this thread which is in the bitcoin section of the forum, when alot of other 'altcoins' are restricted to posting only in the altcoin section at bitcointalk.
And this thread is amongst the top 10 busiest threads at bitcointalk.

Can you say why this thread is here, and not in the altcoin section of the forum?



ahh, you may be thinking of the original paycoin which this is not. This paycoin took the name after cloning peercoin and was created to recover a virtual mining company that sold PNG's as miners.

there was a dispute between the paycoin (last dev?) and GAW which is early in this thread.

edit:
"Can you say why this thread is here, and not in the altcoin section of the forum?"

cause this is about a scammer who scammed even the paycoin name  .... but wait, there is more!
493  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:34:25 AM
Hello

Please unlock

User: Jorkata
E-mail: gidcorp@mail.bg


yep, you are in the right place to ask! zencloud masters supporting master zen scams through inventive social media  techniques to achieve major velocity ... and you know, reset your account ... lol.
494  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:30:42 AM


Lets see if I got this right.

Paycoin was formerly named Hashcoin, and it emerged out of the mining section of bitcointalk.

So paycoin took a different route to begin with, than most other coins take.

But what is it that is giving people incentive or motivating people to buy paycoins?

I am curious, I see paycoin did quite well and has been up high on the leader boards at cryptsy for some time.

nope. try again.
495  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:25:49 AM
Please contact zencloud support @bitcointalk.org via the troll/fudster thread !

we need Apu in this thread as official support representive

My PM inbox looks like this:

!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter
Repeated a bunch of times.  

Apu and seriousinvestor are the best....
496  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:20:22 AM

"Additionally, the company CEO fled the United States for the United Arab Emirates (UAE),
leaving no employees in the company to address consumer requests, until being returned to
the United States, less than two months later, by the U.S. government, due to violations of
financial responsibility laws in the UAE, which would have required imprisonment."

That's new. What's the source for the information in the charge-back request?

How is that new?

It's been posted all over this thread as it happened.

Hold on, are you saying the above is proven ? seriously, it's proven he is in Dubai ? and has been returned to the United States by the US Govt ?

so where is MrGanza now ?


497  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:14:10 AM
I was accessing zencloud thru sms text.  What do I do to unlock my account?  Username kieran2230  

Your account is not locked and therefore there is no unlock button to click or press.

It's on hold.  

Code:
-62.56690306 XPY

What did you do?

You like that huh? Yeah, I took advantage of a bug and made around $150.  Is there anything else I should do?  Guess the permanent stakers will pay eventually?  I spent around $420 on 10 stakers at one point so I was happy to get 25%.

I had 6 month cashtakers that popped at 90 days, I emptied the account and the balance was negative, did you hit the same "bug" ?

just curious, I'm sure the account I have/had is locked and negative (and now I know where to get support, yay!) but I could care less.
498  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2015, 07:07:05 AM
Please contact zencloud support @bitcointalk.org via the troll/fudster thread !
499  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 03, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
very well, it must be difficult to come here and essentially beg for zencloud account support from the troll/fud army and the head traitor.  /s
I don't really want to rub it in though.... seems too easy, lol.

That's a new title.

I thought I saw you referenced that way on one of the payhashtalk.xpee forums. Smiley
I didn't even realize I was part of some army. /s /jk


You aren't part of an army, trust no one.
added /s and /jk lol
500  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 03, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
very well, it must be difficult to come here and essentially beg for zencloud account support from the troll/fud army and the head traitor.  /s
I don't really want to rub it in though.... seems too easy, lol.

That's a new title.

I thought I saw you referenced that way on one of the payhashtalk.xpee forums. Smiley
I didn't even realize I was part of some army.
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