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481  Other / Off-topic / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 13, 2024, 10:56:06 AM
Many people suggest using 5-10 percent of his monthly salary for gambling and many people increase this percentage and keep it between 10-30 but I think it is important to observe whether our family is going through any shortage or not because family needs get the first priority. I don't think it would be appropriate to have a gambling budget there. Gambling can only be budgeted for when the family is able to fully meet their basic needs. A financially sound gambler may try to spend anywhere from 10 to 20 percent of his income which will not hinder the gambler's gambling. The main reason for making budget is to gambling so that he can lose his money without any obstacles. But there are some gamblers who do not pay the family expenses but use the money from it for gambling. Which later brought both his gambling life and his family a major disaster.

Budgeting needs to be done by gamblers, especially those who already have a family, because by doing budgeting it will make it easier for gamblers to manage their finances in 1 month for their gambling activities and for their family. If a gambler doesn't budget and only plays according to their wishes, then what will happen is that their finances will fall apart and they will use money that they shouldn't use for gambling. And budgeting will help a lot a gambler to see whether they can use their money for gambling or not.

True I agree with this, however and in any case management must be done especially when it comes to finances, and when you have a habit that requires you to spend a certain amount of money to be able to do so then obviously budgeting must be done, regardless of the amount but it must be in tends to be a small amount which is essentially the amount you can afford to lose. In addition, this is gambling, which is always a risk, which can be higher if you treat it in the wrong way.

As you said, having such money management in place makes it less likely for them to experience the problem of losing balance in terms of family finances. Another thing however is that limits should always be applied in any case especially when it comes to finances, and having a tendency to overdo it when it comes to gambling can never be right, it is a bad idea that will eventually lead them to significant financial problems that can most likely make it difficult for you to make ends meet, so the point is that management, budgeting and limits are very important things that all gamblers must apply to their gambling activities if you want to survive in the long run.
482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chased loss, got it back and lost everything. on: May 13, 2024, 10:32:08 AM
This happens with almost all the gamblers. Gambling lures you to play more even when you recover the losses. You only think to make little profits, but while chasing this unfortunately you lose all the balance. This happens with many gamblers many times. This is the tendency of all the gamblers I must say. What we can do here is that to withdraw little portion of the amount, so that we can use that to recover the money if by chance we lose it while gambling.

That's right, it doesn't matter if you've managed to achieve a recovery but still in the end there will always be the temptation to continue, we must remember that a person is addicted when he manages to win which means that didn't achieving a recovery result because you managed to achieve several wins that made you achieve a recovery? Yes, it means that there is most likely an element that will make you feel addicted and maybe you think of continuing to not only come out with a recovery but also with another victory, but it is a fact that there is no guarantee for anyone to always be able to win in a row, which means there is a possibility that when you continue then a defeat can occur at that time which makes you have to lose the amount of recovery that you previously managed to get.

This means that you will most likely get emotional and go back to chasing the losses that you just incurred to recover your money and I would say that this is actually a cycle that is most likely to be experienced by gamblers who are always greedy, instead of leaving and securing the recovery that you managed to get but you continue again and it is only natural that you end up losing again, meaning that whatever success you achieve in gambling is all useless if you basically cannot ignore the greed in you.
483  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 13, 2024, 10:03:07 AM
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If addiction normally happens out of one's consciousness, then a gambler is supposed to be evaluating their gambling lifestyle once in a while to make sure that they are still in good conduct. In everything that someone is doing, self-reflection is very important. I don't know about others, but for me in particular, I do something at a time and I think about it all to see if it was really the right thing to do or not, and if I realize I have been doing the wrong thing all the while, then I will just retrace and put myself in place.

Yes, I think it is a fact that addiction can happen at any time with any scenario without the gambler realizing it, and usually the addiction scenario starts when at the beginning of the involvement someone manages to get a big win that makes them feel very happy which in turn puts great expectations on winning. Sometimes people who come with the right approach such as gambling for fun will always have the possibility to experience changes in their mindset, all because of the many temptations that look tempting which when a gambler is careless then various things that look tempting can change their mindset, This means that in gambling, no matter how good your approach is, in the end, fun can still turn into tension along with some pressure, and this can usually also be caused by a gambler mismanaging the time to gamble, for example, they gamble at the wrong time when they are experiencing personal problems, which means that losing in gambling can make them get caught up in emotions even though their initial intention was only to find pleasure.

And maybe I will go back to saying something that I have previously said above that one of the tips so that we can slightly avoid the possibility of addiction is to apply full awareness driven by assertiveness to maintain that awareness, the goal is that we are able to identify whether what we are doing is right or wrong, almost the same as what you said above.
484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: May 13, 2024, 09:44:42 AM
A gambler cannot be called an addict if he can stop at any point. Those who are addicted gamblers can never take losing easily. Even if they lose, they feel that they have to recover their lost money immediately. As a result of their misconception, they are gambling day after day. Some to recover his losses and others to win. Either way those who lose control over their gambling become addicted gamblers. There are some addicted gamblers who gamble after a loss with the intention of recovering that loss and eventually lose their entire bankroll. Those who wish to conduct normal and healthy gambling must stay away from addiction and have good money management skills.

Chasing losses in gambling is like chasing after a car that have failed brakes, you don't know where it's going to crash and when it crashes, it is going to case damage to the car and perhaps to the person driving it. A gambler must not chase losses in gambling because they will not recover the lost money, they will still loss more. I wish I can make all addicted gamblers to know this.

Well I quite agree with the analogy you gave here, chasing losses is like you are chasing an invisible wind, in the sense that victory is always unpredictable when it comes which makes them most likely even experience an increase in the amount of loss. Simply put, if for example the victory in gambling has certainty and guarantee then yes there is nothing wrong with chasing losses, but what we must understand is that however gambling is always an activity that cannot be predicted about how the results will occur at the end of the session, still in the end you can win but you are also very likely to lose, having the intention and goal of recovering something that has been lost can never affect the outcome at the end of gambling, or that means the idea can never change the percentage of winning chances to be higher than losing, meaning the possibility of losing a larger amount is very likely to occur, and what we must understand is that you have lost in gambling and how can you intend to pursue recovery in the same place? this is what makes no sense.
485  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: May 12, 2024, 05:45:40 PM
Manchester United's performance against Arsenal in the first half was impressive, but they could not convert any of their chances in the first half. If Manchester United maintain the same performance in the second half, they might earn a draw against Arsenal. Arsenal doesn't want to rush Manchester United so that they will not concede a goal with a counterattack from Manchester United.
Their match had entered the 90th minute and only minutes of stoppage time remained, but Manchester United were still unable to equalize. Likewise, Arsenal are no longer adding goals so the score is still 0-1 and Arsenal will really maintain this until the end of the match because Arsenal still have to compete on points with Manchester City in terms of fighting for the title this season. However, what is very unfortunate is that Manchester United once again had to accept defeat in their home match.
And yes, they had to lose this match, Arsenal's single goal in the first half brought them 3 very valuable points from Manchester United's home ground, Old Trafford. This victory made them move back to the top of the standings at least before Manchester City finished their postponed match against Tottenham. There is only one match left for Arsenal, it will all be very decisive for them and it also depends on the result of the Manchester City match.

However, in terms of appearance, Manchester United played a game that was not bad, unlike in the previous match where they had to suffer a crushing defeat to Crystal Palace. However, this performance was not enough to bring them victory or get at least 1 point from their home match. They had to experience defeat again for the umpteenth time and that had to bury their desire to be able to compete in Europe next season.
486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 12, 2024, 05:35:39 PM

You believe that Leverkusen cant be beaten after their 49-game winning run. Thats huge, the best in Europe, trust me. But listen up: dont give up on Atalanta. They beat Liverpool and can upset anyone. These guys are fighters. They have this energy and an air of uncertainty that could really throw Leverkusen off. There are no rules that say what will happen in the Champions League final. Atalanta can beat anyone on any given day.
Looking at the Head to Head of these two clubs, Atalanta still has a big chance to beat Leverkusen and get the UEL title, but the Head to Head was several seasons ago, meaning the conditions of the two clubs are different and currently Leverkusen is far from invincible because they have consistent performance and the players which is very complete without having any problems.
I don't doubt Atalanta because this club is a terrible club because the attacks are always unpredictable by the opponent.
Atalanta's playing pattern usually uses faster attacks and attacks more often from the middle and Leverkusen must be aware of this.
Whatever the result in this match, I still support Leverkusen and I would also say that Atalanta is one of the great clubs that can surprise.
In my opinion, head to head is no longer relevant now, because the performance of the two clubs is different, especially Leverkusen who have managed to record without defeat to date. In the previous season, when Atalanta was able to win against Leverkusen, Leverkusen had not shown such an extraordinary performance as it is now.

This season Leverkusen have not been beaten, and it is still a question mark whether any club can beat them or not. Maybe they will end this season without a single defeat in all competitions, and to be honest that opportunity is very wide considering that the potential opponents are no better compared to their performance this season.

Xabi will definitely be targeting that too, Xabi has taken Leverkusen this far and I'm sure he'll be eager to finish on a high as well. There is no reason in my opinion that could make him not think about finishing the season without a loss, because he is only a few games away from achieving that.
487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 12, 2024, 05:15:25 PM
Bayern Munich are 2-0 up now and it looks like they will be able to win this match considering that the match time will not be long. However, to be honest, there was nothing special about Bayern Munich's game in this match, but they should be grateful because they were able to score 2 goals in this match.

Wolfsburg could actually handle Bayern Munich's game, but they couldn't immediately concentrate at the start of the game so they had to concede goals very quickly in the 4th minute and 13th minute. Bayern Munich must start focusing on their journey next season, they have very good attackers, but they have to do a lot of evaluation, especially in their defensive area.

If this score lasts until the end, then they can bounce back because they lost in the previous match. Once again, if they want to become champions, they must be able to play better than this season, because their threat is Leverkusen, who will most likely have the same performance as this season.
488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 12, 2024, 04:54:34 PM

Real Madrid have a higher chance of winning the league this season than Dortmund. The final match will be a winning match for Real because the have the players that can bring home the trophy no matter the club that they will meet, none of them will be an obstacle to Madrid.

Ancelotti will always come up with a strategy that will favor his men on the pitch, and these players have the strength, skills and confidence which is what makes them different from the rest clubs. Dortmund is also strong for them to reach the finals but Real Madrid is the strongest.

I saw a very interesting statistic in the newspaper today. They have played 51 official matches this season and have only suffered 2 defeats. Borussia Dortmund have achieved a very important success so far. But I don't think they will have a chance against Real Madrid in the final. I agree with you. Because Real Madrid have players who can change the score at any moment. On the other hand, Borussia Dortmund have looked like a team that tries to score from corners or free-kicks with set-pieces. I think Real Madrid are the clear favorites in this match.
Almost everyone will predict that REal Madrid will be champions this season, from any point of view they are better than Borussia Dortmund. Real Madrid is a club that has a very good mentality, their mentality is one of the factors they have achieved so much success as they have today, and they have done this for generations, and it has been proven now that their young players also have a very good mentality.

Real Madrid management succeeded in managing the club, that is one factor that we must not forget. The reason is that we can see several big clubs that end up having problems because their management cannot manage the club well. They are a unit that cannot function alone, and Real Madrid has succeeded in making all the elements sustainable with one another. This is something that a club must have, when the club can do that then I am sure they will be able to achieve great success and it will last not just for a season.
489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 12, 2024, 04:32:32 PM
Mbappe made the right decision when decided to exits Parc des Princes stadium, it was one of the sad moments for the Frenchman but there are decisions that ought to be taken to safeguard the possible promising future. Kylian Mbappe sits in solid position to be Ballon d'Or winner but he made the wrong choice by staying in PSG and keeping his dreams alive. Mbappe is fed up with the club's inconsistency to win the UEFA Champions League which have become a burden and challenge, he's leaving at the end of the season.
Kylian Mbappe's decision to leave at the end of this season was quite the right decision considering that he still had the opportunity to have a better career at another team. So there is nothing wrong with this decision because it is time for Kylian Mbappe to try a new challenge in another team, especially since this team is a team that has won a lot of Champions League trophies. And PSG can take steps to find a replacement for Kylian Mbappe next season so that they don't experience a lack of strength when they start next season.
I agree that this is the right decision that Kylian Mbappe has taken, because his career as a footballer will run in place if he still stays at Paris Siant Germain. I don't mean to demean Parisian Germain because after all they are a big club, but the problem is we can judge for ourselves how they are when they are in tighter competition, yes they can't do much even though they are populated by several big players.

At his new club, Mbappe can do something even better for his career, especially if it is Real Madrid, which is a big club with no doubt about their quality. Mbappe has the opportunity to achieve great success in his football career with REal Madrid. He is still young and he also has abilities above the average of other players, this is something that will be something very big when he is very mature in the future. At Real Madrid he can also learn many things, not only football, but things like mentality and others.
490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does gambling excites you ? on: May 12, 2024, 03:11:31 PM
I got a lot of exciting if I gamble with what I like, it makes me feel so happy and cool about everything, gambling is not just to gamble, does it excite you and do you like it when you gamble with what love and you will notice that you enjoy it the more and you make more wins in it
It's really feels exciting when we playing gambling but we must remembers that many people lose their control because of the exciting feeling and caused them lose their money. When we can feel excited in gambling, we must remember that we don't have to keeps playing gambling because we don't knows we can still feels like that. We can lose that feeling, especially if we lose for some money and that can makes us to keeps playing gambling, even some people will forgets when they must stops playing gambling. Stops playing gambling immediately is something that we must do after we gets excited in gambling and don't have to waits for too long to stops because the situation can be change anytime and we will feels regrets because we playing gambling too long.

Yes that's right, gambling is fun and exhilarating but it is precisely this excitement that is mostly always the main trigger for people to fall into gambling without a good awareness in themselves which in the end over time they take some sometimes dangerous actions and it flows and will only be able to stop when they run out of most of their money. I think it makes sense to make this excitement the reason why a gambler loses control, which means that something else has to be applied when you are gambling which is maintaining the awareness that gambling has significant adverse effects when one gets carried away, and not only that, they also need to apply assertiveness in themselves to always remember the dangers of that fact.

What this means is that the excitement will most likely not last long and eventually the situation will turn tense and stressful as you lose some money due to losing, and this is where it all starts which is where most gamblers fall into the abyss of addiction because they cannot control themselves and their emotions, and this is also the reason why a gambler should gamble based on the right understanding of how gambling really is.
491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chased loss, got it back and lost everything. on: May 12, 2024, 02:43:09 PM
Exactly, I am familiar with the sentence from the title you gave above, and I admit that it really happened because I also have one friend who has experienced such a scenario where at first he struggled hard to chase something that had been lost before but when he had succeeded in grabbing it instead of stopping and securing his money but what happened instead he continued the session even in an increasingly crazy way. And this is why we are always forbidden to chase the losses we have lost before, because the first thing that is really hard to ignore is "greed".

I'm sure that even if you've made it to the recovery phase, there will always be something whispering in your ear that will tempt you to continue gambling with the lure of a bigger win, but it's a fact that it's nothing more than a temptation that will trap you. Believe me, it's a cycle that will never stop if you don't stop it yourself, and if you can't stop when you've made a recovery then it's the same scenario as the OP where he ran out of everything.
492  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 12, 2024, 02:18:30 PM
And when they are unable to control and control these desires and dreams, this will trigger addiction. Yes, because every time they lose, then they will feel that in the next round, they will get that luck, and then it will be like this until they don't feel it, they are addicted to gambling. However, if they have a gambling addiction, it will be quite difficult to stop it on their own, unless they have a big problem that will really make their life changing or if they get help from people around and treatment by professionals.

Yes, that's it. Addiction is quite easy to emulate but very difficult to kick off when it has deeply consumed the gambler. There is a popular saying that "prevention is better than cure." It's better to prevent gambling addiction at an earlier stage, when the gambler still has regular symptoms. It's true that a gambler can get lucky in the next round, but when they keep trying and the luck is not coming, then the best thing is to take a break and continue next time because the more the person continues to bet, the more losses they get and become emotional, which can lead to addiction. 

But normally, gamblers don't give up gambling because they lose the first round; they will still try next time. Though they should not do it frequently to avoid addiction,. 

Yes, I like that saying which is applicable to everything as an idea to make one realize that cure is always much more difficult than prevention which means it is clear that prevention is always much better than cure in any case, especially if we talk about gambling which has a very bad impact that can destroy one's life in various aspects. In the end, I strongly agree with what you said above that a gambler must have any measures to prevent addiction as early as possible, and maybe I will give one tip so that you can avoid the possibility of addiction by maintaining awareness of how bad the impact is in gambling along with being based on firmness in terms of implementing it, none other than because as we know that addiction can occur unconsciously which makes a gambler fall into and get carried away over time.

Another thing is that as you said, a gambler should always have the ability to stop at the right time such as when losing especially to prevent the possibility of more significant losses. And if they are a gambler who really struggles to do that then I think what needs to be fixed is their understanding of how gambling actually works.
493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: May 12, 2024, 01:48:28 PM

This i will admit the joy of wining give motivation to continue no matter how you try to back out from the game it's hard to pull out, it take extra ordinary discipline person to stop because the spirit will tell your to double what you have won if continue .

Greed is always the order of the day for gamblers just some happened to control their own that is where individual difference and management and decision play a vital role,as some may find it difficult to control themself when the gambling is favouring them not know losses is ahead , greed is like addiction once your build up with it in heart very hard to go out of it, but the necessity remain that one need control greed if possible abstain from it entirely.
I think that you are right because whenever you win gambling it will give you joy and happiness so that will motivate you to gamble more but in order ways when you lose in gambling also that something that happened that happened in gambling when you lose is that you like to recover the money you lose and that to motivate you to gamble again so two things is involved both winning and both losing

I would say that someone who is obsessed with gambling then simply usually they always feel addicted when they win and if they lose then usually they will be curious, which when you win then the victory can be a motivation for you to continue the session in the hope of returning to victory like that again, and when you lose then usually yes the inability to accept the reality of defeat will be felt by them which in addition they put curiosity to always try once again in the hope "maybe one more try I will win".

So actually whether you manage to get a win or you end up losing it is two situations that still make you continue the gambling session, there is no urge to stop at all because the level of consciousness has begun to thin out which makes you fall and get carried away by the situation, and this is why it is always recommended not to overdo it in terms of dealing with gambling and also not to overdo it in terms of hope for victory, it all depends on the mindset of a gambler.
494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 12, 2024, 01:17:12 PM

If they can master self-control, they will not have a difficulty when they playing gambling because they will knows how to use gambling for fun and will avoids addiction. They will not playing gambling excessively because they knows that will only makes them loses more money. That's the thing that they always prevents to happens to them and with self-control, they will knows what they must do in gambling. They also knows that if they playing gambling too long, they will see the risks will becomes bigger and if that's happens, they can't accepts it easily and will trying to recovers their lose money. They knows that they don't have to achieve anything in gambling instead just to have fun so they will only uses enough money and will not playing gambling too long.
Only a few became successful while the majority had lost control of themselves, especially after winning some amounts. Many gamblers become greedy and many have been influenced by the people on social media prompting that gambling makes them rich. That is why those gamblers in the chase of winning, the more it wins less (to nothing). Sad to say that many are still blind not seeing that gambling is just for a pastime and entertainment, not as a source of income because it is hard to rely on when we just depend on luck.
yeah, minimize our time spent on gambling to avoid addiction and overspending. Gamble responsibly, the only thing we can do is to save our lives and money.

After all, gambling does not have any element of success except for nothing more than ordinary wins, which also do not always come in the way you want, of course, all wins only occur occasionally and by "chance" without being able to predict in advance, and this is why we are always advised to put a lot of caution along with applying a lot of limits, because only then will we be able to minimize the possibility of losing a significant amount.

On the other hand, I might say that you are a smart gambler if you are able to stop completely when you get a big win, but the fact is that it is only a minority, because most gamblers are likely to continue their gambling habits in addition to applying much higher hopes and beliefs to get bigger wins, and actions like this can be caused by overreacting to winning or it can be caused by other things such as the influence they see on social media about other people who have managed to get a big win which indirectly motivates them to be even more crazy in terms of treating their gambling activities. And one of the biggest mistakes that gamblers usually have is that they have the mindset and belief that gambling can be used as a place to earn, and usually this mindset often appears when they win.
495  Economy / Economics / Re: Our decision making is responsible for the outcomes in our ways on: May 11, 2024, 05:23:12 PM
Everyone who suggests something to someone else of course has a good understanding of what they are saying and after we give them advice then it is their choice whether they want to accept it or not, this is their choice.
I agree with you, of course it would be better if we could avoid those who think that what we suggest to them is not very useful for them and we can let them learn it on their own until they can realize that what they did was wrong so that they regret it.

but if the suggestions or advice given can really help us, there's no harm in obeying it by first considering the advice given by other people. Don't see that he has more experience so that we obey him, of course it's not like that. When someone gives advice, what we have to do is respond well, because of course everyone will definitely give good advice for our future development, so we have to be able to consider it, if you don't want to do it, at least don't reject it, just accept it, but don't do it. . Respecting other people's opinions or advice is necessary.

If the advice given leads to losses or things that are not good, of course don't do it, but when someone else gives advice, we must be able to respect it, even if we are not happy with the advice, we must respond to it well, such as by responding well, in meaning asking again more clearly and in detail for the future, not by rejecting it directly. because if that's the case, maybe all that will happen is conflict with each other.
496  Economy / Economics / Re: Take care of your money and learn to save. on: May 11, 2024, 05:02:15 PM
Behind how small salary receiving every month not all people around the world has opportunity spend few percent for saving assets, most of countries has below standard of payment salary and required hard working around 12 hours every day. In my country Indonesia has difference cases and difficult for spending around few percent of salary for saving because too expensive daily cost than with how much payment salary receiving.

I think need to brave out from comfortable zone looking for opportunity with higher payment salary on bigger companies outside to bigger country, I think will make us have bigger chance to get more saving behind bigger salary receiving and easily for spending as investment assets.

That's true, not everyone can save, even those who already have a job and have a salary that they can get for a certain period of time. some people are of course used to a luxurious lifestyle but they have a mediocre income so that when they receive a salary it is only to pay this or that bill, even with what you say it is like the daily expenses which are very expensive, it becomes disproportionate to the salary which are owned. Even though money management is good, if income and expenditure are not balanced it will be difficult to manage.

A big salary might help, but what we have to look at is our own portion. If we really want a bigger salary or income, we have to be able to look at our own skills or abilities, whether we are able to do things equivalent to a higher salary. big or not, because I'm sure there are some people who are trying to get extra income by looking for side jobs, but even that is not easy to do so what happens is that it makes them sick because they are too tired from working.
497  Economy / Economics / Re: Surviving in this economy needs a new minds set on: May 11, 2024, 04:40:23 PM
mindset is definitely one thing that could help us achieving future success.
but surviving in this world also requires more than the change of mindset there's so many things that limit people from doing what they actually can do.
having good mindset that could help you change the way you thinking could only get so far when you don't have the things that could help you to achieve success faster than the other such as connections, wealth, and so on.
the people that have these could be having the worst mindset there is and would still achieve great things.
but yeah if we don't have anything, surviving in this world is tough the only way we can do is to have good mindset.

that is like the last thing we can have anyway.

A good mindset is one of the things that you must have in order to be successful, because if you have a bad mindset then in my opinion we won't have a sense of wanting to progress, as if we just want to continue being lazy. Now many young people spend their time just playing online games and it doesn't produce anything good, there are even some of them who are willing to not sleep to play games, of course this is the wrong mindset, because this will only make them experience a decline in their health. whether it's their immunity or eye health.

with those who don't have a good mindset, maybe they can realize by themselves when they experience difficulties such as with their financial situation. but no one can deny that there are people who can survive with a bad or less than good mindset, in fact I can't imagine what their future fate will be if they have a bad mindset that cannot be changed or improved. Of course, if they want a good future, such as being able to be successful in the future, then they must have a good mindset, such as being able to think of ways to make money, such as by working. it can help them to prepare for their own future.
498  Economy / Economics / Re: Debt Management. on: May 11, 2024, 04:20:08 PM
Pardon me if I'll step in but your discussion are interesting for me.
They say that don't stay on your comfort zone so that you're going to improve. It's true that comfort is addictive but if it's about with such situations that will help you to improve your life with so many things including debt management and financial knowledge, you need to make a choice now or you'd suffer tomorrow. It is so true that one won't make it and won't grow if he stays where he's comfortable but I can't blame them to that because even I, I'd choose comfort than any other challenge.

Actually, I think everyone definitely wants a comfortable life, therefore they look for what makes them comfortable. Also, I don't think it's wrong if we stick with things that make us comfortable, it's just that we have to be able to balance whether the comfort we feel allows us to progress or not. For example, if we are comfortable with the job we have, of course that's not a problem. What is a problem in my opinion is that those who are comfortable are in the wrong zone, such as spending time in vain every day, not being able to produce anything by doing things that make them comfortable, that's which is a problem and of course it is something that must be addressed.
When we are in a comfort zone, I think we have to be able to see first whether this comfort zone can produce results or not, because if it doesn't produce results then we should go out and look for other comforts that can produce something good like money. If we are trapped in a comfort zone that doesn't produce anything, it will only get us into trouble, such as having no income which could make us borrow money, but we don't know where we can get the money to pay for it.
499  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest on your dependants if you too must grow further on: May 11, 2024, 04:03:05 PM
Yes, what you said is very true. If we want to continue to be successful, we must be able to make the people closest to us become more advanced and have good thoughts about finances. Because if you are the only one who is the backbone of income generation in a family then whatever wealth you have will not last long.

So, according to the title written by the OP, make your dependents an investment for the future. It's not just about money but also education and knowledge. Teach them to earn money, not give money because this will make them not develop and even tend to be lazy.

I think we can help them to progress further by advising them to do the best for themselves, such as having a decent job to make money, giving them support to continue working so they don't become lazy. basically we will have our own family which we have to be responsible for, so we should be able to work on what we want, what's more, we definitely have a desire for something that must be achieved and of course we have to do it ourselves so that it can come true. Even though there are several people who are the breadwinners of the family, I'm sure it's not because they like doing it, it's just that maybe there's no one else they can rely on other than themselves, so like it or not, they have to do it.

It's true what you say, teaching them how to make money is one way to help them. doesn't mean they have to continue to depend on us forever, if they just keep giving money it will make them lazy, maybe they will even think that they don't need to work because there are people who always give them money, of course that makes them comfortable, I'm a very good person. it's easy to feel sorry, but sometimes I do things that are not in accordance with what I feel, where I could help him financially but I don't because I have helped him financially many times, and I think he has become comfortable with what I do, so he didn't feel awkward when he asked me for financial help.
500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It’s unlikely that anyone besides you will be happy with your winnings. on: May 11, 2024, 11:40:38 AM
Never tell anyone when you hit a ticket even if the winning is 1$ because people tend to wish you bad luck by instinct and that's why it's better to keep your betting tickets for yourself alongside the winning ones and losing ones. Also , I've noticed that if you go on a public chat where people are gambling , the amount of flames and bad words you get for actually tell who you bet on it's enormous and I will never ever go on public chats where gamblers are cursing each other just because they have different outcomes for a certain game.
Yes, it's funny, but it's true: people in general don't want you to win and want you to lose. This is an interesting topic, perhaps it even deserves a separate topic - I’m talking about the fact that winning changes the behavior of other people. There is a famous study conducted by Dutch psychologists. They studied the financial behavior of neighbors of people who won the lottery. The neighbors' behavior changed significantly after this event. We don't know the subtle mechanisms of this behavior, but we need to keep it in mind.

Honestly I don't know why this kind of thing can happen, but honestly I also admit that scenarios like this really happen in real life and not just about winning in gambling, which is where the point is that there are some people who are really not happy with whatever we get and if there is absolutely no connection between you and that person regarding something you get then maybe we can conclude that they are someone who is jealous of what we get.

Another thing I think is a fact that money can change everything including the behavior of people, and I think it is because of the arrogant nature of some people who think that they are far superior to others, and I think it is not uncommon for us to find people who experience changes in behavior when they have a lot of money that they get from various things including winnings in their gambling involvement, although not everyone is like this but the fact is that there are always some people who experience such changes when they have a lot of money.
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