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501  Economy / Goods / Re: ~ Buying a TESLA CYBERTRUCK with BITCOIN ~ on: November 16, 2023, 04:58:10 PM
Oh no! Tesla appears to have removed all language in the agreement saying that you can’t resell your Cybertruck within a year or face a $50,000 fine. Thats sort of a bummer to me. I was really hoping this would cause some cancellations of preorders ahead of me in line. Link to the new full agreement below.

https://www.tesla.com/configurator/api/v3/terms?locale=en_US&model=m3&saleType=Sale

On a limited production thing like the Ford GT you could get away with something like that. With a 'mass production' vehicle it's more difficult. Tesla had the 'get out of it' clause in the original contract that if you could show reason why you should be able to sell then they would let you after certain conditions were met.

But if other things happened. i.e. you loose your job and can't pay the loan and they don't let you get rid of it. Then you just keep driving it and not paying for it until they can repo it. Which can take a very long time and you were abusing the shit out of it the entire time. So they now have a car that has had been abused that they have to sell again.

Not to mention, in some states it's flat out not permitted to block the resale of motor vehicles to others. I know Nevada and New Jersey both *had* laws like that on the books, no idea if they still exist.
Short Version: Casinos were running car promos back then and if you didn't want the car, casinos were only offering about 65% OR LESS of the value of the car in cash. So people took the car and flipped it. Some casinos didn't like that so they put in wording to not allow the transfer for a certain amount of time. And then the lawyers came, then the states just put it in the FU they can sell it law because the better casinos were giving close the ACV of the car and were complaining that the ones being scummy about that were making all casinos look bad.

This goes back to the 80s. Was a big stink about it back then when the Corvette C4 came out and had a MSRP in the mid $20k range. There were a lot of casino promos with them and some casinos were giving something like $15000 in cash if you didn't take the car. Since you could take it and sell it for more then MSRP not allowing sales for a certain period of time was just bad optics. Not to mention the flip side, of you do owe taxes on the full MSRP next tax day, so you could take the car, drive it for a while and then sell it comes April 15th. But, that didn't work if you could not sell the car. It was just a mess all around.

I was in high school back then and a major gear-head, it was a big thing for a while if you were paying attention. If you didn't gamble or like cars you probably never heard about it. But, I can see the laws or variations of them still sitting there. If they can be enforced with a purchase instead of a giveaway or as a contract between the manufacturer and someone instead of a 3rd party who knows. I can see a bunch of lawyers just pointed out that it's just not worth dealing with it.

-Dave
502  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Question about Bitcoin network spammer on: November 16, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
Yes, I can check them and save them in JPG. In the end, my jpg file and paid NTF will be exactly the same in pixels. I just googled and 29,983 people paid a sum of $91 800 000 in The Merge NFT.
Like the old adage goes, "A fool and his money are soon parted"

I don't really give a damn about how the gullible ordinal or BRC20 battalion spend their Bitcoins. The issue is, they are making it harder for an average person to use and maintain the Bitcoin network. Yes, miners are happy but for how long if most regular user stop using bitcoin and opt for centralized shitcoin networks like BNB.

As an example, I have not used Ethereum network for a long time now and to this date I don't even think of it, but at the beginning I actually liked the smart contract nature of Ethereum network and used it regularly as an average user.

Look at it as enforced savings. You don't want to move your BTC to buy something since it costs so much in TX fess so you don't spend it. More for you later :-)

But, seriously. This too shall pass. No idea when, but sooner or later the 'next big thing' in crypto will appear and BRC20 will stop being used and fees will drop and things will get back to normal. Next week? Next month? Next year? No idea, but it will happen.

-Dave
503  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Problem with Electrum wallet when sending BTC to exchange! on: November 16, 2023, 02:37:54 PM
More or less the issue is you are doing a CPFP If you look at

https://mempool.space/tx/c2d38a9d12d6de50b1ea6b75f506457cdc94ab0c9f62b69a8df6db17f2cff310

The effective fee rate is only 67.3 sat/vb since you are covering the older 20 sat/vb tx

With you need about 190 sat / vb at the moment so you are going to have to wait it out or *massively* bump the fee.

-Dave
504  Economy / Service Discussion / Crypto to Debit Cards vs Crypto to Gift Cards Do you really care. on: November 16, 2023, 01:20:38 PM
Subject kind of says it all. I used to really care about getting a physical debit card for exchanging some of my crypto.

Now for online purchases I can get a Visa or MC or Amex virtual gift card and for in store purchases I can use it in Google / Apple / Samsung / whatever pay app.

Yes at times having a physical card is needed, but I really see it becoming less and less.

Or is it just me and the way I do things.

Also, being US based may give me a different perspective then in other parts of the world.

-Dave
505  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Urgent Help Needed for BRD Wallet Bitcoin Recovery on: November 16, 2023, 11:37:15 AM
I have read those two post, I tried the method described there, but it did not work for me.  Embarrassed

Do you have any old addresses generated by BRD wallet that you can examine inside the xpub checker site?

I have an old addresses, which used in 2018, but it starts with 1xxxx, how can I transfer it to format like this "xpubXXXXX"

The xpub is generated from your seed. Use the iancoleman tool as recommended by others to get it.
Unless you changed something the m/0' is the derivation path used by BRD for legacy addresses.

-Dave
506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some rich person not interest about bitcoin for following reason on: November 15, 2023, 04:33:43 PM
Some car people not interested in Ferrari
Some foodies not interested in French pastries
Some landlords not interested in house boats.

And so on.

Many people are never going to want to be involved in BTC / crypto.
That's fine. Same way you can pick any of the examples above where a lot of people are making / spending a lot of money and have no interest in certain things that are associated with what they are doing.

-Dave
507  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: My shoppy.gg payments are stuck on: November 15, 2023, 03:27:52 PM
Hello, did you find any fix?  

I have the same problem with shoppy.gg, BTC transaction is stuck for days and they don't respond anything

they still don't answer..

Op's next post after what you quoted was them affiriming everything has been solved. Idk if it was through shoppy's help or the mempool just eased up though. as you may have noticed, these two posts had a 10 day gap.

What about the suggestion/s mentioned before in this thread, have you tried them? particularly CFFP if you have the PK of the receiving address or viabtc if conditions are met.

Yes, the OPs cleared when the mempool got a bit less congested in early June

3 options now

1) Wait it out.
2) As @Potato Chips said do a CPFP if you can
3) Paid TX accelerator https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator

Without knowing the amounts and your need for the BTC it's impossible to tell you what you should do.

-Dave
508  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Extra layers of security to prevent hacks on crypto transaction sites & exchange on: November 15, 2023, 03:22:20 PM
You are discussing 2 different types of hacks

One where the exchange is hacked. The other where the customer has some kind of hack / compromise.

For the client side there are a few methods that can be taken, but they all have their own issues.

I would like to see the option for having a 48 hour hold on withdraws over a certain amount.
Step 1 initiate the withdraw.
Step 2 at least 24 hours later you have to put in the address where you want the coins sent. (with some 2fa)
Step 3 at least 24 hours after that but no more then 48 hours you have to approve it. (with a different 2fa then from step 2)

For small amounts it's fine, whatever, but much like taking cash out of an ATM, you have limits and if you want more you have to go into the bank.


For the actual hacks on the exchange. It's really simple, all deposits go immediately into a 3 of 5 multisig wallet. Period.
The hot wallet for withdraw never has more then X hours on average of withdraws in it.
The cold wallets can ONLY fill 1 address for the hot wallet so even if you get 3 of the multisigs it's hard coded to only send the funds to hot wallet address so you would also have to get access to the hot wallet if you got access to the cold.

-Dave
509  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Biggest Exchange: M2 Exchange based on Abu Dhabi (UAE) on: November 15, 2023, 12:49:35 PM
1st thing on the 1st page is something showing 10.5% APR on crypto investments.
It's going to be FTX 2.0 or anything else promising rates that you can't get in the real world

People will keep putting in their BTC and cry when it disappears.

But people will invest in the magical internet money machine.
Not your keys, not your coins.

-Dave
510  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Mailing list migration on: November 14, 2023, 12:43:16 PM
- They create a self-moderated thread.
This would not work. Spam control needs to be proactive rather than reactive, or else you end up filling everyone's email inbox with hundreds of daily spam posts before they are trashed.
Indeed, and I think that is partly why the mailing list has been able to be useful for so long.

For a while, the mailing list was greylisted - anyone could send to the list, but people who hadn't posted before would have their mails held in a moderation queue before they were sent. Apparently issues with mailman2 have made the mailing list now a moderated only list, although they still permit a lot of stuff and it's basically just manual greylisting. The key thing is the fact that emails from new people are held while emails from "approved users" go through pretty quickly. This cuts down on the spam.

However any system which requires pre-approving users before they can send anything will discourage many people from posting. With email, you don't know that your email might get moderated before you send it, but anything that requires approval before being able to even send will just result in fewer new people participating.



The fact that email is universal is extremely beneficial. New people do post to the mailing list, and sometimes they have good ideas. I strongly prefer a mailing list for these technical discussions since it has a low barrier of entry. Everyone has an email, and everyone knows how to use one. There's no need to make a new account with yet another password. No need to have yet another website that you have to login to in order to read or respond to posts. The barrier of entry is low, and that's what we want so that fresh ideas can come in. Of course we need proactive moderation so that it doesn't become all spam. Mailing lists are perfect for that.

Of course the last bit that makes everything hard is who is going to host it, where is it going to be hosted, and how will it be paid for. Running a mail server is not easy. It's extremely easy to get blacklisted and then the server is useless. The mailing list also has thousands of subscribers and apparently the existing self-hosted mailing list software just is not capable of dealing with it, or have significant other drawbacks. It's not just "a bit of modification", and just because there are developers involved doesn't mean that all software problems are solvable. mailman2 and mailman3 are complex projects with lots of issues, and the people working on Bitcoin aren't working on fixing those software since they're interested in working on Bitcoin. Even if the software were functional, who would host? Who would pay for servers? These are questions that are yet unanswered, and often have unsatisfactory solutions. Even now, it isn't the Linux Foundation that hosts the list. It's OSUOSL, a non-profit that helps open source projects. But they too have limited time and money.


Some points and just my view on a lot of them and not in order (sorry)

1) Running a wide open mail server is difficult. Running one for just a mailing list is somewhat simpler as if you are keeping the list clean and only allowing approved people to post will cut down on a lot of spam

2) The cost I really don't see as an issue. Although there is a cost, it can be done for under $1000 a year, which while it is not an insignificant sum it's not earth shattering.
2a) I can see a lot of places wanting to give a discount for getting bit a free advertising for supporting BTC

3) If you want to keep with mailman there might be more coding but there are other free and commercial options out there. I know a lot of people will balk from buying a piece of closed source commercial software to do this but time is money and if spending some money now saves time and effort then it's not wrong to do it.

4) Administration would be an issue, BUT I would think there are some people out there that would want to help. I could be 100% wrong on this, but with the number of people supporting BTC I can't see no one helping.

5) Although a royal pain in the ass you are not locked into 1 option. If you go with product A and discover it sucks....you then try B. I keep seeing the attitude of well this sucks but we are sticking with it from a small 2 person business to major 1000+ employee places and it just boggles my mind. Fine it didn't work....move on.


-Dave
511  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance Client Executives Kidnapped, Forced to Empty Crypto Wallets on: November 14, 2023, 12:22:03 PM
Although it's the 1st time we are hearing about it with a crypto exchange it's far from the 1st time it has happened to business executives.
Sometimes the kidnappers are going after a ransom other times they are going after something the company has.

It's why many large companies have large insurance policies on key people and contingency plans in place.

-Dave
512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how/why is this tx stuck??? on: November 13, 2023, 01:22:39 AM
Added to https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator by phil.
Not a guaranty that they will mine it, but it's better then nothing.

You are 2 blocks from the tip at the moment. So it should clear in a bit so long as a ton of TXs don't get hit the mempool.

-Dave
513  Other / Meta / Re: So I had a person send me a pm to beg for merits. on: November 12, 2023, 12:54:34 PM
Oddly enough I have never gotten a message asking for merit that I can remember.
Guess I am enough of an ass that people know not to bother.

7. No begging. [5]

That rule is for money, not merit!

I always thought that was for everything.
Yes, merit came out after that rule. But no begging for BTC, no begging for project support, just ask don't beg.

-Dave

514  Economy / Reputation / Re: Confession - Zapo=aTriz.... and jamalaezaz ?? ?? on: November 11, 2023, 03:36:10 PM
Sorry to necro bump this, but the My Apology to Bitcoin Community and Request for another Chance thread started by jamalaezaz is locked and the aTriz account has most likely changed hands thread started by Cashi was last active 2018-10-04

My question is if aTriz and jamalaezaz are alts, does that mean Zapo is jamalaezaz ?  There are no Flags against Zapo and the two aforementioned threads aren't clear about the co-ownership.

Does it matter? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2015835
Bunch of negative trust and has not been here in over 4 years.

Is there other drama someplace that I missed that brought this up?
If not then I would just file it in the whatever, not important pile.

-Dave
515  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin lose decentralization? on: November 11, 2023, 03:30:02 PM
The answer to the OPs question is the same every time it comes up. No.
There are more small and medium miners that point their gear wherever they want to.

If one pool gets too big, or in their opinion gets too big miners will point elsewhere.

It has happened in the past and will happen again.

Yes you have a lot of places with their own gear but compared to the people with 1 or 2 or 50 miners who will point elsewhere if they feel the network is loosing it's decentralization it's not a worry.

-Dave
516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: As a Bitcoin Core only user, how im supposed to pay someone in person? on: November 10, 2023, 05:48:29 PM
I'm also going to put this out there. While the question that the OP asked is a legitimate question. It does bring up another issue of how many one off situations are there that can happen.
Most people are fine with an insecure hot wallet on their phone and the bit of loss of privacy that comes with it.

There are ways to get around the privacy issue by running your own node and electrum server and connecting to that.

There are ways of using https://tapsigner.com/ or some similar product for more security. You can even have a large amount of funds in an encrypted paper wallet that you import & sweep & then pay the person.

There are 100s of different scenarios / options and each person will have to figure out what will work for them.

We can go down the rabbit hole of what works for the OP, but for the next person it may not be a good answer. There is not a one size fits all for things like this.

So....how do we as a group come up with a general framework that can be more tailored to people, or is it not worth it and we treat every one as an individual thing.

-Dave
517  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinbase delisting BSV :) on: November 10, 2023, 03:29:57 PM
They are not technically delisting BSV since they already delisted this shitcoin back in 2021 and people weren't able to trade it ever since; they are just removing it from their platform entirely meaning it will no longer show up in users' wallets either. Which is surprising that they have kept this shitcoin in their database for this long. Maybe they still hoped it would recover or something so they could re-list it again?

https://financefeeds.com/coinbase-suspends-bitcoin-sv-trading-double-spending-attack/


As stupid as this sounds I think they kept it because it cost them virtaully nothing to keep it up.
They have the servers and the back end and everything else. Keeping an it sitting there so people could withdraw (you have not been able to deposit for a while) was probably zero cost. So why bother doing anything.

If it was costing any kind of money I would think they would have pulled it a while ago.

-Dave
518  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Mailing list migration on: November 09, 2023, 07:28:59 PM
If they setup their own server and tweaked the code (they are developers....) it might work for them with very few changes.

What do you mean? That they could maintain the same mailing list hosted in their own server?

Yes.
This is what they are running: https://list.org/

There ARE some issues with it, and they are compounded by the fact that they (bitcoin developers) are running on someone else's (linux foundations) installation of it.

I really don't see it being an insurmountable task to do it themselves. But, you do wind up in the situation of is it worth it, or would it be better to use another service.

Can't really comment, since I don't contribute or mod or admin the list. I just read it....

-Dave
519  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Raspi 4 for Bitcoin Node: Still Compatible? on: November 09, 2023, 04:46:22 PM
never had an intel nuc. always seemed a bit pricy.

Which was why I didn't include them. The NUC both intel branded and other makes always tended to be a lot more money then an equivalent mini PC.
This even follows down to the used market.
Not sure why, it just is one of those things, at least around here.

-Dave
520  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: illegal and humiliating video verification in Rollbit.com on: November 09, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
Of course, voluntary, only you forgot to say that if I refused to carry out your illegal actions, you would block me without a refund.

Would OP able to withdraw all of his balance if OP refuse the "voluntary" call?

We always refund users who are unable to complete verification steps.

There does not exist a single case where this is any different.

Refund or withdraw?

1) Refund = you bet $10 you won $10 but you are only getting your original $10 back.
or
2)Withdraw = you bet $10 you won $10 here is your $20 and now you can no longer bet here.

I have no issues with #2 it's your house and your rules. But with #1 you could make the KYC so miserable on big wins that you get out of having to pay them.
I am not saying you have have done this, just that it leaves it open that you could.

-Dave
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