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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 04:46:47 AM
The main reason why i  think this coin is complete shit and dead, is because i need to get some cheaper.

So fuck mazacoin, it sucks. Please lower price for me. Thanks.


I saw written on a bathroom wall that there was no premine and its all a scam!
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 04:38:55 AM




This.

Thanks Bitranger. That's why I'm here. Lakotas believe in the right things. . .and I hope this can help them.

edit: I'd like to get rich while that happens. . .
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 04:20:24 AM

The dev is from Canada moron.   So run along and get some more tweets and come back again.  This guy is just trying to drive the price lower and lower, so him and his crew of nobody's can try and drive the price up later.   Put this guy on Ignore and move on. Nothing he says is true.

Thanks... Could have swore I already did ignore him actually, some of its been pretty offensive.
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 04:11:48 AM
If I were the holder of the MZC premine right now. I'd be staying quiet also and buying as many coins as possible, and telling my friends to buy them. . . . But at the same time convincing the tribal chiefs that an "official" statement from them could bring the value of the premine into the hundreds of millions. After everyone has invested, release some big news, and watch their holdings skyrocket. Before the recent price jump there was much more speculation that this could work, but now its clear adoption will be worth a fortune so its worth taking a pause and getting some more money in.

Don't be naive. The chiefs won't risk endorsing this as their own coin and risk losing the government subsidies.

25mil coins is peanuts to them to even bother consider it.

Not to mention the fact that they see it already as "Scam" coin perpetrated by "white" folks.

The guy behind this coin is not Payu but an Irish dude running a mining operation that goes by nick "Pirate".

Payu is just the cover for this scammy operation. Payu is the patsy.

-I'm no expert on Lakotas, but if they're anything like the natives here in Canada, they have far more taken from their lands every year than they get back in subsidies- and they know it.... All that dependence leaves them in poverty. This is why I happily see natives at every single protest out there.

-Its 2X25mil and if MZC went where AUR went thats a half billion, they'd probably be interested.

-"They", come on, you're speaking for 100,000 people are you? Also that's a bit racist, you really think there's no one out there who's native and into bitcoin?

-Is that based on the email someone sent someone else? Sure, I'm not convinced - and why hasn't he sold any premine?

-Sounds good but is that also based on some email no one can read?


So what you're on here to call me names and save me some money right? Thanks man, awesome!
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 03:48:11 AM
If I were the holder of the MZC premine right now. I'd be staying quiet also and buying as many coins as possible, and telling my friends to buy them. . . . But at the same time convincing the tribal chiefs that an "official" statement from them could bring the value of the premine into the hundreds of millions. After everyone has invested, release some big news, and watch their holdings skyrocket. Before the recent price jump there was much more speculation that this could work, but now its clear adoption will be worth a fortune so its worth taking a pause and getting some more money in.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 09, 2014, 01:43:10 AM
any new's for craptsy

meh, I'm no longer convinced it can help coins. Maybe RIC because it doesn't have enough exposure. But you look at TAK and MZC added yesterday and they both tanked like crazy.

Comes in like a windstorm, goes out like a fart.
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 01:38:40 AM
I see lots of people ignoring the facts and the Twitter silence of Mazacoin devs. Ignore at your own peril. Price is crashing and we should see 1k soon. Don't let "optimists" fool you. Many will look positive until they've dumped.

Go buy some Maxcoin while they're dirt cheap. You can make back your loss from this fiasco in a few months.

So what's the scam then? They're going to stay silent until the premined reserve is worthless? Sounds like a great plan.


Everyone knows you stage the getaway before you rob the vault, amirite?

What does that mean? They're going to tank the price through silence and then cash out the vault? Again, awesome plan.

Hey if the price is skyrocketing and their screaming on twitter about great news - then your theory might make sense.

"Lets stage a heist Harris. We're gonna take as little as possible, it'll be awesome!"
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 01:34:36 AM
I see lots of people ignoring the facts and the Twitter silence of Mazacoin devs. Ignore at your own peril. Price is crashing and we should see 1k soon. Don't let "optimists" fool you. Many will look positive until they've dumped.

Go buy some Maxcoin while they're dirt cheap. You can make back your loss from this fiasco in a few months.

So what's the scam then? They're going to stay silent until the premined reserve is worthless? Sounds like a great plan.
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 01:30:17 AM
For everyone new to the MazaThread, here's the situation:


With every person that posts, ask yourself this: what is the motive. Nobody posts without a motive. ANYBODY posting in this thread, regardless of their supposed "opinion" on MZC clearly has a stake in the coin. Why else would they waste their time on every. single. page. if they weren't actually somehow invested? They wouldn't. So here's the breakdown of people in this thread:


1) The largest group: miners and traders who honestly want the price to go up and act that way, sharing positive and promising aspects of the coin. Most people in this largest group want to get rid of most if not all of their MZC when they hit some sort of threshhold - 2x, 5x, 10x profit? These are the sincere people - they might not admit their intentions, but they are sincere in being optimistic about price, and their optimism suits their cause by hoping others agree and help support the buy order side of things.

2) The second largest group: miners and traders that expect the price to go up but do not act this way. They don't plan on cashing out today, but they do like making money off of fear - so they spread it. They aim to spread panic now while uncertainty is highest, play the waves, and increase their position - because they know/expect that sometime this week, the price will be at a premium compared to what it is now, and that is their planned exit. Until then, it's all a charade from this group to make waves on the charts and open up margins. This is, on average, the most trade-savvy group. They're not just investing, they're working.

3) The third largest group: newcomers and simpletons who don't do an ounce of googling or backtracking through the thread. These people are naive and clueless, just got a sniff of a hot new coin, and are coming ready to ask questions first and read later. This group is the target prey of strategies employed passively by group #1 and actively by group #2. This is what all of the posturing from daytraders listed in the first two groups is for - these people are the most important ones in the thread to everyone above. They are the fodder to fuel volatility. The best part is, it doesn't matter that I'm saying this - cause none of them will read it once it's not the newest page! Cheesy

4) Fourth largest group: advertisers. Pool operators and promotion shills like that fucking spamming asshole from Atomic-Trade - just make a fucking image like everyone else don't act like "one of us" with your fucking referral link. These people don't really read threads so they're basically irrelevant.

5) Fifth largest group: the believers. I'm not even sure a single one of you posturing motherfuckers is in this group. I bet we're all daytrading scum trying to spin the market to our own devices. Nonetheless, this group is composed of people who actually support the overarching mission of MZC and aren't primarily concerned with price - they bought in at 14 and don't give a fuck about price, cause they are thinking about 2015 and beyond and what a beautiful revolution this could be. I consider myself 20% in this group because I plan on going long on 20% of my MZC holdings at worst, up to 50% if it gets traction.

Not Present: Whales and pure trolls. Whales don't give a fuck what us little guys think, because it doesn't matter. Everyone in this thread is essentially group #3 from the whale's perspective. Pure trolls would not come troll people about stupid cryptocurrency (pure trolling being just fucking with someone for the sake of a reaction, without any underlying motive). Nobody here is a pure troll. EVERYONE here has a motive.



The only logical conclusion: regardless of what anybody in this thread says, they all are here because they have money in the MZC market. Whether it's going in, or trying to get out, or just trying to stir up some shit to open up a margin - literally everyone that takes the time to post in this thread owns some MZC or wants to.


Nice post, but I'd say there are a healthy number of #1s who are also #5s - myself included. I've been an activist for years and I both would like to profit and see the politics of the Lakotas well funded. Same thing was obvious with Aurora. It wasn't some random coin that stake holders pushed, its rooted in a belief in dissenting peoples Icelanders being at the top of that list globally.

Believers sell when it goes way up, sure. But I only ever buy coins that I agree with the politics and I never sell more than a portion if/when it does go up.
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 12:52:56 AM
It not all manipulation and pump/dumps folks. Price of an asset goes up, any asset, people will sell some of it. Its profit taking and its perfectly natural. Maza is up, way up, and its going to keep going that way despite some wild ups and downs.
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 09, 2014, 12:50:16 AM
Why would a decentralized currency be more "official" when approved by a central authority? Official was surely meant to signify first and only.
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 09:03:31 PM
I've entered in to a contract now, I hope maza crashes and burns!

It will.

It has.

Depends on perspective and how much you paid for it. I'd say Maza is actually way up since I bought it ahead of all this attention.
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 09:00:36 PM
how much coin you guys think the whales need to move the market?

watch out for a fake pump to see our sell positions

About 100btc to move this market up past 15k

Maybe if you wanted to fill all sells in one shot, but that will not happen. Price goes up/down, the orders all get moved around. News comes out, everything changes good or bad. Nobody could predict how, when or if MZC will be worth any amount - all we can do is guess and I'm guessing it'll go way up.
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 08:45:49 PM
Auroracoin is rising, now Mazacoin will also rise, buy better now when its still under 20.000 satoshi

 Roll Eyes The Yankees are doing well, now the Red Sox will also start doing well.

Absolutely. When more people start watching baseball, all the teams make more money.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 06:18:54 PM
Watch the Payu Harris interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGR3in8iOoc

Many tribes adopting Mazacoin is total fairytale.

Payu says himself he'll work with other tribes as go to coin guy, if they want their own currency.

It's much more appealing to other native indians to start their own coin and get free stash instead of adopting someone else's currency from which they didn't get squat. Get it? Payu will be there to help them launch their own currency but it won't be Mazacoin.

So expect many "mazacoins" from various tribes if this catches on, where each tribe can do their own pre-mine or hold their own stash reserve.

Surely, but Maza will always be the first giving it more value. It will also take a while to get others started. There is also the possibility that the Lakotas would be generous with MZC to smaller tribes to encourage them to adopt MZC instead of their own. . . . Oversaturation would be an issue that would cannibalize all the tribal coins, they'd be better off to encourage all North American Natives onto one currency. . .Of course that's a hard sell when the premine is dedicated just for Lakotas - something that could change especially if the price were to skyrocket.

They can't be generous with only 50 million total reserve. That's not even enough for themselves, a 5% of the total quantity, let alone to give out to others.

Seems like plenty to me, less than 5% as well I believe. It isn't all the 'treasury' the 'administration' will have. They will have to generate money to pay for officials etc all those things that don't produce anything in the physical world with tangible value etc. I would imagine an incredibly-fair-compared-to-US-and-bleeding-UK tax system.

You can buy 50mil for 1400btc at current price. That's only $868000. Are you saying less than $1mil USD is enough for Lakota + other tribes? Really? Not even enough to do significant change for Lakota let alone other tribes.

This was identical to Aurora. Before the price went up the amount being distributed to Icelanders was a joke per person, now its a decent amount. Remember before it was on a market, the national reserve would have been worth a market price of 0.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 08, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
I sold my coins, no pools = no future  Sad
I'm setting up a pool once stratum-mining is implemented... and that's being worked on...   Smiley

Also: Does anyone have 8k coins they want to dump? If not, we are staying above 0.0006 for a while!  Smiley

Apparently setting up a pool for Rie is extremely difficult. Also I wish the developer was more active here, so that is why I decided to just sell and move on.

I wish the best luck for everyone!  I will be joining the Heavycoin train.

Thanks for the kind wishes, but I don't get that mentality at all. I've never sold a coin at a loss, and I've never sold all of anything.

All in and All out is what drives volatility and hurts all cryptos.

These trains need our help, the hobos jumping on and off slow them down.
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 08, 2014, 04:28:43 PM
Repost from Riecointalk of interest:

Here are the first constellation numbers for blocks 1-14000: (5.6 MB) http://kæn.guru/~janus/riecoin/1-14000.json.txt

Generated using https://github.com/ysangkok/riecoin-tools/blob/master/check_proof_of_work.py

What do you mean when you say "create a way for people to view the resultant data from Riecoin"?
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 08, 2014, 04:11:30 PM
I sold my coins, no pools = no future  Sad

Really? You don't think they'll ever get them running? Why?
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
Watch the Payu Harris interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGR3in8iOoc

Many tribes adopting Mazacoin is total fairytale.

Payu says himself he'll work with other tribes as go to coin guy, if they want their own currency.

It's much more appealing to other native indians to start their own coin and get free stash instead of adopting someone else's currency from which they didn't get squat. Get it? Payu will be there to help them launch their own currency but it won't be Mazacoin.

So expect many "mazacoins" from various tribes if this catches on, where each tribe can do their own pre-mine or hold their own stash reserve.

Surely, but Maza will always be the first giving it more value. It will also take a while to get others started. There is also the possibility that the Lakotas would be generous with MZC to smaller tribes to encourage them to adopt MZC instead of their own. . . . Oversaturation would be an issue that would cannibalize all the tribal coins, they'd be better off to encourage all North American Natives onto one currency. . .Of course that's a hard sell when the premine is dedicated just for Lakotas - something that could change especially if the price were to skyrocket.
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 04:00:24 PM
I am new here.in my first post i thought this was a scam..I hadn't did my research!.

Since then i have and i have changed my mind..this is how i see it in simple terms

What Payu is trying to accomplish for ALL native americans is the same as what bitcoin is trying to do  for the world!.

We need to break the CHAINS around out necks and take the power back!

Payu and his team put a face behind the effort for his cause and i QUOTE

“I think cryptocurrencies could be the new buffalo,”

Standing on the banks of the Little Bighorn River last year, a son of the once-mighty Oglala Lakota Tribe made a promise to continue his ancestors’ fight against the United States. Only this time the war wouldn’t be fought with arrows or bullets, but with QR codes and cryptography.

“My family fought and died on this soil,” recalls Payu Harris , a Bitcoin developer and native activist. “Suddenly the story of Custer’s Last Stand wasn’t just words on a page but something deeply personal. I looked at how things were for the tribe now and suddenly had an idea about how we might fix it. We can’t continue to be 20 years behind the times, always trying to catch up. We have to be forward-thinking.”


If you are invested in Mazacoin quit thinking about it as a TRADE and the daily ups and downs

Think about it as a way to help the people that once roamed and hunted most of this Nation and never took from it more than they needed just to survive!

If we don't Help who will?..I want all of you to listen to these videos please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfvUA2vRAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9piIziXU9RE







If you support the plight of impoverished natives, the safeguarding of the environment, the rise of crypto currencies AND you want to own a rising asset. Buy MZC, hold and wait.
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