thanks. lots more to come so have another look sometime

thanks!

I didnt read that whole Nxt thread, but I was informed that the guys over there told him in no uncertain terms to GFH. Lets not stir up even more FUD here.

The guy didnt need to be paid to do his dirty work because he was driven by his unbalanced nature to attack emunie.

No need to go looking for other culprits..

Wow this again so soon. And we only just finished with the last thread.

Before I address any point here, I'd like to let everyone know that I'm a moderator on the emunie forums. About a month ago we had a guy join called Cossakman. Cossakman likes to think he's in the know, so he made loads of posts, so full of misinformation presented as facts, that I had to give him a gentle warning to be more careful as it was confusing our new forum members at a time when they are trying to understand what they are investing in.

Cossakman has changed his name twice on our forums since, and is now known as Maet. Thankfully he doesn't post much anymore.

A few days after I gave him the warning, someone posted a thread on BTT claiming "an anonymous source" had given him information proving emunie was a big scam. So much good information was then posted on this thread that the original poster withdrew the claim about emunie, deleted any reference to emunie from his OP, and sent messages to all the posters apologising for being taken in by this spreader of lies (his source).

What Cossack doesn't know, is that the guy gave up his source to us along with everything he had said to him. Yes Cossak, we have copies of it all.

The source was of course our poor friend Cossak who apparently couldn't take being warned by me and decided to spend his hours doing as much damage to emunie as he possibly could. The thread I speak of is here, though the OP has removed the emunie bits, you can find it quoted later in the thread from this post onwards:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402536.msg4377911#msg4377911

If you want to see the character of this guy (now known as Maet) please have a look on our forums where his attitude has always been very different indeed.

Cossak, I say this to you: Perhaps my warning to you was not as diplomatic as I meant it to be. I really thought it was, but I apologise otherwise. You obviously feel wronged and this is how you've reacted to that. Please, do yourself a favour and just walk away and lick your wounds. All this energy you’re putting into this is more harmful to you than anyone else.




Ok. Weve been arguing this point recently in another thread, so I'll give you the quick facts and a couple of links with proof:

The thread Cossak speaks of that is the waiting list for emunie beta testers has 53 pages and 1014 people on it.

Emunie has over 400 people registered as beta-testers, founders and administrators. All of these are able to invest in the sale right now. This is where 600BTC came from.

This is a post I made earlier which proves the above:



So, maybe the question you should ask yourself is this: If Cossak is willing to lie about this, what else is he lying about?


He then goes into an attack on Fuserleer's identity, schooling etc. I just ask you to not take in what he is saying as truth, but follow the links and decide for yourself. This guy is not doing this for the betterment of this community so please don't take what he says for granted. Also, ask yourself why it is this supposed master criminal and scammer-extroadinaire uses his real name and never changes his forum nick from one site to another? Honestly?

"No normal person brags about making $1500 by stealing from other people". Funny because I visited the link and that's not what I saw.

I wont go into the rest about scamming and identities as its just more FUD and Dan can clear anything up himself if he wants to.


The rest is just more drivel honestly that's already been dealt with in the thread I linked.


Firstly no one claimed it was proof. Secondly, since when does proof rest on the shoulders of the accused?

Yes we have a website and our launch was delayed. Its a fair cop; lock me up now!




Demands at the end of a character assassination, not simple requests. Dont attempt to appear reasonable after all that. Cossak, you do not get to run the show. Not now, not ever.



ROFL it's a bit late for that isnt it??  


The icing on the cake:

 "Fuserleer will seen his eMunites / Cult Followers to spam my thread"

Typical underhand tactic used by people who make accusations and want to remove the accused right to defend themselves.


To the OP, if you're not just a sockpuppet, I suggest you ask yourself why you take the word of someone like this and are willing to just post it without doing a little research first. Your credibility is worthless now.



By the way, it really saddens me how many poeple took the OP and his "little birdy" at their word. Try and think for yourselves guys. Please.


Edit: The name Cossak had between this and Maet, was CMC. Here he is trying to get $10,000 from the Nxt crowd to destroy their competition:
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,2750.msg27177.html#msg27177

Thank you tk.


By the way, if anyone wants a good look at the client, theres a nice webpage here which one of our members made:

http://hatcher.io

I made a post on emunie's forum this morning addressing one of the issues in this thread. I'll just paste it here for your information:



There seems to be the idea that there are only a few beta-testers and so how is it that they are able to come up with 600 BTC? I think this idea has been spread by someone intentionally trying to cause FUD. As well as the testers I speak with on a daily basis, there are many given that rank who (as far as I can see) don't participate in the testing at all.

I also wonder, how exactly do you think you know how many testers there are? Where are you getting your information (if not out of thin air, or the misinformation of others)?

 This pre-sale for the beta-testers is also for the founders. Do you know how many of those there are? I think if you do some research, you'll realise that 600BTC isn't such an unlikely figure as you imagine.

 What you (or anyone who desires the truth) should do now, is go to the top of this board (forum.emunie.com) where you will find a tab named "members". If you go into this tab and click on "More Search Options", you will be able to show members of a certain rank. I encourage you to count how many beta-testers and founders emunie has. All of those have access to this sale, regardless of how much testing, or posting they do.

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The idea is 50/50 at present. I'm not sure if that's set in stone though.

The beta testers are being given 1000 coins ($100 US) each for their work (some of whom have been testing for over 6 months).

Your second question has already been answered in this thread.

It's called Return on Investment:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_on_investment


I hope that helps.

My BTT account was made in Oct 2012.

Firstly, no person will be creating new coins. This function is fully automated depending on unfilled demand. The new coins will be created directly in the wallets of the people that already hold emunie, in direct proportion to their percentage holdings. If the demand for coins falls off, the system stops making coins.

Also, there is a buffer system whereby the system buys/sells coins in order to prevent spikes in price. This does not attempt to fix the price, just prevent huge fluctuations. (This is where a lot of the pre-sale money will be going. The rest towards further development, advertising etc)


The money brought in from new coins will obviously go to the people that decide to sell theirs.


The price of each coin is largely irrelevant at this point. If you invest $100 and get 1000 coins, or 10,000 coins, they will still be worth $100 at launch.

It's true that buying in bulk will get you a discount. Its not a huge discount in my opinion and I think your argument about rich getting richer is largely an appeal to emotion so I wont argue against it here.

All equal. No one gets a special deal.

hehe, I guess that answered my question.

Btw, all your points have been answered elsewhere. I don't intend doing so again for an obvious (and bad) troll.

So you're done trolling Nxt and back to emunie. Lets have a quick look at your posts:







Interesting change of opinion...







Your credibility is now measured in the negative.




I asked you before and shall ask again; are you well?

Well played sir...

You can read about our pre-sale here:

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/992-important-information-regarding-public-pre-launch-sale/


And join a notification list for the start of the pre-sale here:

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/907-emunie-pre-sale-email-notification-list/


There is a lot of information on the workings of emunie on the forums and I suggest anyone considering buying in do some reading first. A good place to begin would be our faq:

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/1044-emunie-and-presale-faq-please-read/

"A presale is a presale". Yes it certainly is, I cant argue with that. The question is though; does a presale necessarily equal a scam? Of course it does not.

You say you've done some research and come to this conclusion. I say your conclusion is based on unfounded biases (shown above and below).


It is closed source (for now) yes. I think the reasons for this are obvious and have been discussed elsewhere. You don't like/agree with closed source for any reason, obviously. I can't argue against your opinions and beliefs so I wont bother. It's important though to see that it is just your opinion.

I encourage anyone who wants to find out about emunie to do their own research and come to a decision based on reason, not someone else's fear.

It's reset after nearly every new patch....

Your post shows that you have put in no time at all researching what emunie actually is, or why there is a pre-sale. If you'd like to educate yourself before your next post, I suggest you go to our forums and have a good read. emunie is a complex subject and shouldn't be written off based on ignorance and biases developed from previous experience of other coins.

You do emunie, and yourself a great disservice by doing so.