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541  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
I seem to recall everyone running around calling Bitcoin the "official" currency of the internet as if that has any more truth to it!

Or how about the Bitcoin Foundation, that den of crooks and con artists being the "official" spokespeople for Bitcoin.

It is so funny that for being a decentralized currency, the crypto community desperately searches for a higher power to bless it and become a central authority for it.

Thats awesome, so true.

I think people have been taught to believe they have no control. That's why every single price move is referred to as a pump or dump. People can't fathom that a free market might actually be at play and that there isn't a master controller sitting at the helm of everything.
542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
If Maza is a total scam, the Lakotas won't be getting another crypto anytime soon, the potential for them to profit from this would be gone. So ask yourself, does this look like a person who would sell out their people. secretly sell the premined reserve, all for a few thousand? Could be, sure, but I'm betting it isn't.

Also the oft repeated argument that this can't succeed because it hasn't yet succeeded is asinine and could be equally applied to Bitcoin.



It's not about them being a "total scam". It's about a certain degree of misinformation about the currency being "official" as listed on website.

Fine, but it could just be poor phrasing and hopefulness? Every coin out there is claiming to be the official coin of something or other. It could have just meant that Maza is first on the scene for the Lakotas. Nobody got approval from Bernhard Riemann, the Incas or the moon either, but if I was a dev there I wouldn't hesitate to call them the official currencies...

I get that it may have been misleading about where the tribal leadership stands, but it isn't necessarily trickery.


Payu and Anonymous Pirate both have made the point that this currency is out of the hands and control of the tribal leadership to avoid internal politics and scandal. So you are correct, it is not trickery, in fact people are missing the fact that this was done by design to avoid trickery.


Ah so its the coin of the people, not the leadership. Thanks that makes me like Maza even more!
543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 03:01:31 PM
If Maza is a total scam, the Lakotas won't be getting another crypto anytime soon, the potential for them to profit from this would be gone. So ask yourself, does this look like a person who would sell out their people. secretly sell the premined reserve, all for a few thousand? Could be, sure, but I'm betting it isn't.

Also the oft repeated argument that this can't succeed because it hasn't yet succeeded is asinine and could be equally applied to Bitcoin.



It's not about them being a "total scam". It's about a certain degree of misinformation about the currency being "official" as listed on website.

Fine, but it could just be poor phrasing and hopefulness? Every coin out there is claiming to be the official coin of something or other. It could have just meant that Maza is first on the scene for the Lakotas. Nobody got approval from Bernhard Riemann, the Incas or the moon either, but if I was a dev there I wouldn't hesitate to call them the official currencies...

I get that it may have been misleading about where the tribal leadership stands, but it isn't necessarily trickery.
544  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 08, 2014, 02:00:19 PM


http://www.buffalopost.net/?p=9539

There's Harris again. If Maza is a total scam, the Lakotas won't be getting another crypto anytime soon, the potential for them to profit from this would be gone. So ask yourself, does this look like a person who would sell out their people. secretly sell the premined reserve, all for a few thousand? Could be, sure, but I'm betting it isn't.

Also the oft repeated argument that this can't succeed because it hasn't yet succeeded is asinine and could be equally applied to Bitcoin.

545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 07, 2014, 11:35:04 PM
I know, I know, I'm always on about the video. Just wanted to mention that plays tripled today....It goes to show that RIC remains very under the wire. Listing on a new exchange, people go back and check out the website and video because they hadn't heard of the coin yet.
546  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
so many hater's xD

Its weird right? What could they stand to gain from all their work? I don't quite get it, and its also so mean spirited. The conspiracy theorist, and psychology major in me thinks it may in fact be supporters of the coin. There's no better way to support an idea then to present its faults from a poor speaker. With the racism and anger, its hard to imagine anyone with a critical eye would take any of it seriously. Thereby dismissing complaints by making them look like the rants of crazy people.
547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
The price comes from the potential for MZC to store value. Just like Iceland. Speculators are assuming this community will take up and support this coin - thereby giving it circulation and a constant value against real goods.
548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 05:31:16 PM
Guys I have a problem with my deposit. I've tried to withdraw my MZC from mintpal->cryptsy and it seems stucked. Currently: http://explorer.mazacoin.org/address/MGBdXXoZiF2in4KChbhmdPPre1pKpxem6p

Have you got such troubles to? Any ideas what to do? There is no 'pending' on cryptsy.

I transferred from rush to cryptsy and it was pending within seconds and there within minutes.
549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 05:29:48 PM
Look at it this way if you're feeling nervous about MZC. A currency adopted by the Lakotas would be worth a fortune because they are a tight knit sovereign group. . . Why would the creator want to dump and kill that when he could become very rich and bring wealth to his people from establishing the first official sovereign crypto? Just doesn't add up unless he's both a scammer and an idiot.
550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
wow, I was starting to take manonthemoon halfway seriously, but he's just an ignorant racist who hates Native Americans, jews, God only knows who else he considers to be the wrong color.

Did you assume that I'm white manonthemoon?

If i could find the ignore button I would use it. lol

No doubt right? Nothing else is telling like a little racism (lotta), huge heads up there. Ignored.
551  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ██[MZC] MazaCoin - National Currency - now @ RussiaToday, Independent, Telegraph on: March 07, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
I'm holding my MZC despite the well stated suspicions, why? Purely a matter of motivations. The tribal council sounded interested at least. If the owners of this coin want to get rich, they're not going to dump the coin and will follow through with their plan to give out grants and get all Lakotas on board. The price would skyrocket for sure if the council was on board. Conversely, he could try and dump the 50 million reserve MZC and tank the price - grabbing some profit in the short term and killing the coin. . . . Even if you're betting on greed to prevail here, its in their best interest to legitimize this coin not dump it.
552  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 07, 2014, 02:17:45 PM
I think we're finally going to see some new pools very soon too. Looks like Gatra is almost there from his post yesterday, that will surely help RIC a lot!
553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 07, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
Probably lots of people on here today, so I'll ask again. . . Pumps are fun, but lets create lasting value for Riecoin - help out with anything below and we'll gladly add you to the list with thanks!

Things You Could Help With Right Now

- get more pools operating
- create open source stratum-mining (Guru Gatra working on)
- finish block explorer (3v1l working on)   
- create p2pool mining  (ThePeePs working on)

- help get listed on cryptsy (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)
- help get listed on BTER (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)   
- have the website redesigned (northranger79510 working on)
- post details about Riecoin in math focused forums
- post details about Riecoin in crypto focused forums
- create an Android wallet
- create a Mac wallet
- create GPU miner
- create a way for people to view the resultant data from Riecoin
- create a live stat "speedometer" that redlines at world record breaking primes and explodes
- contact notable mathematicians/departments worldwide and see if they'd be interested in endorsing or commenting on Riecoin
- make a press release about RIC to be sent to math/science based publications
- compile email list of math and science publication email addresses for press release submission
- create press release for potential merchants
- compile email list of potential merchants (math and science focus first)
- create a faucet (percentage by donation so its always running)
- think of a fun giveaway and ask for donors to make it happen
- create Tor pages and presence
- blog about Riecoin
- finish Wikipedia entry
- start a foundation for bounties and contests
- create paper wallet generator (surfer43 working on)
- create and maintain a list of what needs to be done (remi stevens working on)



That was not a pump!

http://www.btc38.com/general/916.html

translates to:

Dear Customer Hello everyone: the long-awaited era finally planned new currency trading on the line. This time we bring you a three-currency transaction, the transaction will be opened at around 21:00 pm , they are: 1, Riemann currency RIC RIC stands for riecoin, Chinese coins called Riemann, released on February 11 Day, is a fully-fledged quality new currency. Currently, the number of miners in foreign currency-known mineral pool ypool more than 20,000, has the line in foreign mintpal and Poloniex and other trading platforms. RIC very little promotion in the country, but in foreign countries are still relatively popular, RIC and XPM somewhat similar, is performed by calculating the scientific mining primes way, thus avoiding wasted mining operator force, however, RIC's algorithm XPM carried out on the basis of certain improvements, said to be more efficient than xpm find prime numbers. RIC is the total amount of 84 million, one block every 2.5 minutes outputs, each block contains 50 RIC as a bonus, this figure will be halved every four years (equivalent to the basic parameters LTC), which also led to the pre-mining difficulty RIC is very large, less production. Currently, the price of each RIC on the foreign exchange market is about 1.9 yuan RMB. Bit era Riemann establish a dedicated investment currency exchange group: 376 123 691 Welcome to 2, Billy currency BIL this currency for all of us, may be more familiar with some, Billy coins released in December 2013, can be considered a second new currency . Billy currency English called BillionCoin, meaning that ten billion dollars, as the name suggests, its output is 10 billion, and Billy currency initially blocks, each block randomly generated from 1 to 100,000 BIL, production will be about 69 days halved, block production the other day, BIL's just down to the 1 to 50000 BIL. At present, BIL has a trading platform in support of domestic and foreign trade, the current price of each BIL approximately 0.0006 yuan. Billy bit era to establish a dedicated investment currency exchange group: 246 052 868 Welcome to 3, gold coins YBC gold coins are the first domestic cottage currency in the true sense, if only to compare and domestic currency, which has the largest number of miners, the highest market turnover, while, YBC is the first export trading platform for foreign currency-made cottage (if not already demise of CNC words). Currently, gold coins YBC in the country has developed a long ecological chain, including ingot chess game platform, gold bullions coins Stock Exchange as well as a lot of businesses to accept. Gold coins without a clear production ceiling, but according to the algorithm, gold coins yield about four years in four million or so, the 10-year yield of about 10 million or so, at present, YBC in C network, gold exchange, BTCTRADE other domestic can be traded outside the platform, each YBC cost about 15 yuan. Bit era gold coins to establish a dedicated investment exchange group: 370124137 welcome to join us on this currency long overdue, partly because the cottage currency market is chaotic, on the other hand, we also spent a lot of time in the currency consideration the screening. In addition to the three currencies of our on-line, and other popular emerging currencies such as particle coins, coins molecules, Aurora coins, mint coins, the Federal Reserve currency, QQ coins, black coins, currency, and so dark, and ultimately, we believe that these three combination of a currency, more in line with our distribution has always been a reasonable price, the combination of the old and new currency coins habits. I hope you will like it. Finally, we must remind everyone that the virtual currency investment risk is great, please participate, as appropriate. Due to relatively thin market funds, and the times they deliberately released simultaneously three currencies, aimed at weakening the hype fluctuations on the line at the beginning of the new currency, please be sure to maintain peace of mind to participate, thank you.


Ah, . . .Well that is good news then! . . .But still, would love to see my list filled out some more.
554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 07, 2014, 02:12:43 PM
RIC the video up over 10000 views now! Might be the most popular video I've ever produced.
555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 07, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
Probably lots of people on here today, so I'll ask again. . . Pumps are fun, but lets create lasting value for Riecoin - help out with anything below and we'll gladly add you to the list with thanks!

Things You Could Help With Right Now

- get more pools operating
- create open source stratum-mining (Guru Gatra working on)
- finish block explorer (3v1l working on)   
- create p2pool mining  (ThePeePs working on)

- help get listed on cryptsy (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)
- help get listed on BTER (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)   
- have the website redesigned (northranger79510 working on)
- post details about Riecoin in math focused forums
- post details about Riecoin in crypto focused forums
- create an Android wallet
- create a Mac wallet
- create GPU miner
- create a way for people to view the resultant data from Riecoin
- create a live stat "speedometer" that redlines at world record breaking primes and explodes
- contact notable mathematicians/departments worldwide and see if they'd be interested in endorsing or commenting on Riecoin
- make a press release about RIC to be sent to math/science based publications
- compile email list of math and science publication email addresses for press release submission
- create press release for potential merchants
- compile email list of potential merchants (math and science focus first)
- create a faucet (percentage by donation so its always running)
- think of a fun giveaway and ask for donors to make it happen
- create Tor pages and presence
- blog about Riecoin
- finish Wikipedia entry
- start a foundation for bounties and contests
- create paper wallet generator (surfer43 working on)
- create and maintain a list of what needs to be done (remi stevens working on)
556  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 06, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
I'd be more then willing to setup a p2pool, but I would need someone to write the PoW module for it, as i don't know C at all.  I would also be able to have a p2pool node list available after the PoW module is ready.

Right on excellent. I'm going to add you and surfer43 to the list then. The bracketed area is more about who we have that is capable of doing certain tasks and is willing. So if someone else comes along and wants to help or ask questions they know who to talk to. Even if you can't do everything needed, you're available to let people know what you can contribute and what is still needed.
557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 06, 2014, 05:55:53 PM
I am able to create a paper wallet generator but I wonder if many people are interested in this.


Right now, probably nobody, but that's not the point. Everything added makes the coin better, which draws more people, and eventually it is needed. Consider we send press releases to places that have the main stream conception of bitcoin. Paper wallets are a hot topic for the partially informed. Bitcoin ATMs are always a top story even when more interesting things are going on. If Riecoin is "ATM ready" thats a plus even if the expectation to see it used that way is still far off.
558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 06, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
Hey RiePeoples!

Alright, so you want to make some money from your investment? See your miners churn out some gold? Please, PLEASE let me add your name in brackets next to one of these items. Prove to newcomers that we're here to get things done and are committed to seeing it happen. That's what investors and exchanges want to see - people pulling the weight (especially around a coin with no premine).

Things You Could Help With Right Now

- get more pools operating
- create open source stratum-mining (Guru Gatra working on)
- finish block explorer (3v1l working on)   
- create p2pool mining
- help get listed on cryptsy (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)
- help get listed on BTER (vote and share the link to tell everyone!)   
- have the website redesigned (northranger79510 working on)
- post details about Riecoin in math focused forums
- post details about Riecoin in crypto focused forums
- create an Android wallet
- create a Mac wallet
- create GPU miner
- create a way for people to view the resultant data from Riecoin
- create a live stat "speedometer" that redlines at world record breaking primes and explodes
- contact notable mathematicians/departments worldwide and see if they'd be interested in endorsing or commenting on Riecoin
- make a press release about RIC to be sent to math/science based publications
- compile email list of math and science publication email addresses for press release submission
- create press release for potential merchants
- compile email list of potential merchants (math and science focus first)
- create a faucet (percentage by donation so its always running)
- think of a fun giveaway and ask for donors to make it happen
- create Tor pages and presence
- be a Riecoin blogger by starting a blog, posting about RIC and posting comments about RIC in other people's blogs. Ric gets good traffic, enjoy some!
- finish Wikipedia entry
- start a foundation for bounties and contests
- create paper wallet generator
- create and maintain a list of what needs to be done (remi stevens working on)



Maybe you want to help with one of the above items, but don't have the skills? You can still help with that task! Find out where the types of people needed are and make some appeals, ask some questions, tell them about Riecoin - maybe you can get other skilled people interested. . . . But at the very least, many of the above items can be done with google and a little bit of time put in.
559  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin, new prime numbers POW coin, CLIENT UPDATE v0.8.7 AVAILABLE on: March 06, 2014, 04:06:30 PM

Up 10% today  Cool


down 200%+ since it first came out and 100% since last week.
Up 20% today. 600 RIC Buy wall @ 0.00065  Cool

still no pump...

this coin should be 0.01 btc

Wait until next week...

meh, don't worry so much about the price. So long as there is still just the one pool and little marketing, hard to expect much. But ultimately its a good design so wait and help it develop, then we see value . . .  Take the time spent watching markets and do something constructive for the coin. Maybe someone could get started on a press release? Google how to make one, its not too difficult. And someone else could compile a list of email addresses from math and science publications? This is stuff anybody can do and would help a lot. . . I'm just too swamped right now or I'd do it myself, but I'm happy to give feedback.
560  Economy / Speculation / ugh. . .stop saying that something lost +100% that is impossible. on: March 06, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
Sorry, just venting. People going on about how their investment lost 200%, 300% yesterday/today etc. . .

Folks. If the price chopped in half today, it went down 50%. If it returns to the same price tomorrow, then it gained 100%. I know its harder to keep track of but. . .
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