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621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price December 2018 on: June 05, 2018, 06:04:30 PM
Some analysts are of the view that Bitcoin Price could reach a peak in December that is double the price now?
I think these traders expect that Bitcoin reach a new All Time High December 2018 because it was the case with Bitcoin last year (2017).
However in my opinion,I don't thing this year will be same as the last one.2018 is a really bad year for cryptocurrency in general,we should expect a new ATH maybe next year or in 2020.
622  Economy / Economics / Re: Economy in your country on: June 05, 2018, 05:24:46 PM
An economy is a zone of the production, appropriation, or exchange, and utilization of merchandise and enterprises by various operators. Comprehended in its broadest sense, 'The economy is characterized as a social area that underlines the practices, talks, and material articulations related with the production, utilize, and administration of assets'. Monetary specialists can be people, organizations, associations, or governments.
Economy in my country is very weak,alot is done to improve the situation but still, our economy struggles to expand and one of the biggest reasons in my opinion is that my country is located in Africa and ofcourse is considered as a third world party country.It's sad that Africa located countries that seeks for developement doesn't profit from Africa's benefits and always look for Europe.
623  Economy / Economics / Re: A cryptocurrency with volatility can't be used as money on: June 05, 2018, 04:32:12 PM
I'm just reading an article in the newspaper. Klaus W. Wellershoff (a last chief in UBS Bank) says that's impossible to use a currency with volatility as money. If the value of the money decrease, that means the value of the merchandise decrease. For example : if you buy a flat with bitcoin and few years later the bitcoin value decrease... Your flat lose his value as well.

What do you think about this argument?
I agree with this argument.
However,Bitcoin as an example is volatile only because the volume is low compared to fiat currencies and thus can't be used as a currency for the moment.But when Bitcoin will get more interest and have a huge volume like fiat currencies does,it will no longer be volatile and then can be used as a currency.
624  Economy / Economics / Re: Is It Possible that The Moslem Countries Can Accept The CryptoCurrencies System? on: June 05, 2018, 04:09:25 PM
In the Moslem Countries like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates even Brunei Darussalam etc were enacted Islamic Economy System based on sharia. Is It Possible that The Moslem Countries can accept the cryptocurrencies system in their economic system? What's your opinion?
Yes it's high very likely that the arabic world adopt cryptocurrency as this latter is not forbidden in Islam which leaves alot of arab people start using cryptocurrency like Mr.Everybody.However banks are still everywhere in the world which may still be considered a challenge for cryptocurrency adoption even in the arabic world.
625  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin - a financial pyramid: true or myth? on: June 04, 2018, 03:47:12 PM
If we talk about crypto-currencies in general, it will be more correct to immediately split bitcoin and all other crypto-currencies, the so-called altcoyins.

So, it can not be denied that many ICOs today are forms of financial pyramids.

However, this does not mean that absolutely all alternative crypto-currencies are a fraud. Some altcoyins have a very clear and transparent pricing model. And in fact today, in my opinion, such crypto-currencies as Ether, Dash, Ripple, Litecoin, NEM, Monero and others really create value, and their price is due not only to pure speculation.

As for bitcoin, the fantastic increase in its value in recent times, of course, does not cease to excite the minds of critics, but in reality it's quite simple with him.

The first and most obvious difference between bitcoin and the financial pyramid is that there is no central beneficiary. Theoretically, of course, there are very old wallets with a very large number of bitcoins, which in some sense can be considered such a beneficiary. However, there was no official central beneficiary, and without its presence the pyramid does not make sense.

The second important difference is in bitcoin with the growth of the user base and with the growth of downloaded money, the value grows, because in any economic system this value is directly related to the number of participants in this system. Moreover, given the fact that the volume of the economy is always proportional to the square of the number of participants, and not to the number itself, the value of bitcoin grows much faster than the user base grows, and it is not necessary to talk about inflating a bubble.

And, at last, one more factor is that at bitcoin there are no obligations to anyone. That is, bitcoin never promised anything to anyone, so bitcoin as a pyramid, in general, can not collapse. Bitcoin is only a financial protocol for making, validating and storing information about transactions among network members. The bitcoin code is publicly available, each participant can explore the logic of the entire network, and some participants can not just grab the bitcoins of other participants.

Given all of the above, I can conclude that bitcoin does not fall under the definition of the financial pyramid.

What do u think about what do you think about my thoughts? Do u agree that bitcoin is not a financial pyramid?
People don't make difference between Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency and third party websites that claims such as "Double yourBitcoins in 3 hours".These latter are ponzi/hyip schemes that scam people,while when you buy Bitcoin for yourself there is not third party website that benefit from your Bitcoin other than you.I hope ou understand now the difference.Ponzi is not something new,it's just easier now since Bitcoin transactions are irreversible.
626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Best way to store Bitcoin safely ? on: June 04, 2018, 03:29:39 PM
Hi guys
I know this might sound like a newbie question, but Ive not had enough bitcoin to think about putting any in cold storage since Cryptsy ripped me off when they went down Sad
But just lately ive built myself back up a bit, and just need to check my understanding of a creating a cold wallet is correct ? This is what I think was the best way but im not sure Huh

1. Download latest BTC client
2. move to a pc not connected to the internet.
3. Create an address on that PC without internet.
4. Send fund to address created on PC with no internet access.
5. Save keys in safe place Smiley

Also I was wondering if there are any 100% safe third party wallets that enable quick access if needed ?

Sorry if my question has been covered many times, but I just don't want to make a big mistake.

Thanks
Rick
There are other ways to keep your BTC safe like buying a hardware wallet like Trezor or Ledger,also storing your coins in a paper wallet and keeping them in a safe place.
Other measures is not to download a wallet from unknown source as it may be infected with viruses that will steal your coins.(Electrum for example,alot of counterfeit wallets popped up and beginners fall in the trap),so check that you are downloading the wallet from the official website and check the developer signature and keep your computer safe from keyloggers and trojans.
627  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade is more a lucky thing or skill on: June 04, 2018, 03:10:14 PM
I'm not sure if I have time to play with charts and trade a lot, like I have seen some youtubers doing.
They make you really believe that is more like a skill and if you are good at it, it works.
My friend told me that is just about how lucky you are, and not a skill.
So, should I stick with holding or playing day trade is a better option?
It's both a skill and luck,as everything else.Ofcourse you need some skills to take buy decisions and as the market is super volatile and everything can go wrong you also need some luck.And this is applied to everything in life,skills cannot decide your success,opportunities also matters.
Don't think that traders always profit from their trades,even professional ones also lose money.
628  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Whales and pump and dumps have destroyed this market on: June 04, 2018, 02:42:28 PM
Someone just pumped BTC 100 USD
It is impossible for rational thinkers to make sense of this market: Whales and pump and dump entities have destroyed it.
In addition BTC pairs are on the way out and will make BTC worthless.

I agree with you on a certain level,we see alot of pump and dumps done on bitcoin pairs altcoin and this can really destroy the market.However this won't last long,pump and dumps are only effective when the volume is low,when cryptocurrency market get bigger these pump and dumps won't happen anymore as they won't affect the price.You can't compare cryptocurrency to fiat money,as fiat money volume is really huge that the price is not volatile.
629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your ideal transaction fee for Bitcoin transactions? on: June 04, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
i believe ideal transaction fee for bitcoin transaction should be $1. it will be much more helpful for traders in my eyes. though people has different opinion.

That's not true.
1$ is way too much considering the fact that miners already get the block reward,fees should be way cheaper.Furthermore,not even centralized services like Paypal charge 1$ (for small transactions) and I don't see how traders will benefit from fees being 1$.
630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Intrinsic value on: June 04, 2018, 02:05:45 PM
Many quarters object to bitcoin on the basis it does not have "intrinsic value".

What then is is the intrinsic value of (fiat) paper money?

The ability to arrange the use and value of all other things.

Bitcoin is immune to multitude of actions that a gov may take by quantitative easing, interest rates, capital controls, etc and emerges as a better means to value all other things and arrange their use.

A central plank of bitcoins intrinsic value and arrange the use of all other things.

There's a multi Trillion proposition right there.

They are talking like fiat money have intrinsic value... Nonsense.
As Voltaire said:
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Paper money eventually returns to it's intrinsic value -zero
Those people are just trying to spread fud so that they can put their hands on some Bitcoins (lol)
631  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's suppose that Bitcoin became universal (used everywhere you go) on: May 24, 2018, 09:49:05 PM
Hi,
Let's suppose that Bitcoin became adopted everywhere such as paying bills with Bitcoin,getting salary with Bitcoin,shopping,restaurant etc...
How your country gonna survive if you only use Bitcoin in a daily basis? I mean a country cannot survive if individuals doesn't pay taxes,well with Bitcoin you don't pay any tax right?
How this gonna be possible? Please shed for me some light on this.
Thanks
You made my day...
Bitcoin just broke whole goverment yeah? Because they can't tax businesses which use bitcoin? Cmon man, if things would be like that, believe me, bitcoin could be more widely used than fiat because no one likes paying taxes and while people do dirty job in order to hide incomes, if there was bitcoin as a legal way, business owners would make you to turn into bitcoin in any way for their sake.
It's hypothetical.I didn't say that Bitcoin broke governments (not yet at least).I'm talking about the futur of Bitcoin and yeah no one likes to pay taxes but your country cannot guarantee it's survival if people don't pay taxes and alot of people use Bitcoin as a way to evade paying taxes.

Well, taxes also don't automatically get removed from your bank account either...
It would be the same if Bitcoin became universally used. Governments would just accept payment in Bitcoin, but you would be responsible for making those payments and reporting your income etc.

Also, isn't it nice that they have this big ledger (blockchain) to see what kind of income you have received.
I agree with you but escape taxes is easier through Bitcoin since it's pseudo-anonymous while you can't escape that long with traditional system since the government can check your real income if somehow you didn't report it.

Hi,
Let's suppose that Bitcoin became adopted everywhere such as paying bills with Bitcoin,getting salary with Bitcoin,shopping,restaurant etc...
How your country gonna survive if you only use Bitcoin in a daily basis? I mean a country cannot survive if individuals doesn't pay taxes,well with Bitcoin you don't pay any tax right?
How this gonna be possible? Please shed for me some light on this.
Thanks

 Wrong.  If you pay with Bitcoin at a business, the business will collect the tax owing on your purchase (it will be part of the total price).  If you get Bitcoin as income, generally the company you work for will remit the taxes to the gov't.  If you don't pay your property tax, your property will be confiscated and sold for taxes owing.  You don't have to worry about governments; they'll get their money out of you one way or another.

 

Yes,but you forget that when you buy something the government get money through VAT and not only from the company you've purchased from.
In addition to that,governments won't be able to tax direct payment between individuals.

 I didn't forget the VAT, that's the tax I'm referring to in red above.  It's not called VAT in every country.  We call it sales tax in North America and it can be federal, provincial/state, county, city or some combination of those imposed.

Yeah but still,if Bitcoin becomes universal taxes would be harder to manage by governments.

EDIT:Guys don't judge me too hard,we're just discussing.
632  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there a trading university/school? on: May 24, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
A question crossed my mind,how professional traders learn trading?
Is there any kind of education to this?If no,is there a specific wiki to learn trading online (like openclassroom for programming for example)
Thanks
Why the hell would someone open a trading school/university? Trading is related to market and economics. So you will need to know the basics of the economics and market in order to understand how to trade. You can google and learn how to trade to make profits. Lots of youtube channels and blogs are out there to help people trade.
Well,as any job/profession it requires skills right? So it's not just about market and economics it's also about how well the trader is trained and how much experience he have.Schools/universities would be a great way to build traders experience without exposing them to money loss.
A question crossed my mind,how professional traders learn trading?
Is there any kind of education to this?If no,is there a specific wiki to learn trading online (like openclassroom for programming for example)
Thanks

I don't know about any courses dedicated to crypto trading, but there are indeed many courses regarding trading forex etc..

I personally have learned about different kind of indicators and technical analysis in general from this site : http://www.fxacademy.com/

There is also a paid course from investopedia, but it was too expensive for me as a noob : https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/08/forex-trading-courses.asp

I guess one can learn about the various methods used in technical analysis and implement the same in crypto trading.
I'll check that out.thanks
633  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's suppose that Bitcoin became universal (used everywhere you go) on: May 24, 2018, 09:41:16 PM
Well, taxes also don't automatically get removed from your bank account either...
It would be the same if Bitcoin became universally used. Governments would just accept payment in Bitcoin, but you would be responsible for making those payments and reporting your income etc.

Also, isn't it nice that they have this big ledger (blockchain) to see what kind of income you have received.
I agree with you but escape taxes is easier through Bitcoin since it's pseudo-anonymous while you can't escape that long with traditional system since the government can check your real income if somehow you didn't report it.

Hi,
Let's suppose that Bitcoin became adopted everywhere such as paying bills with Bitcoin,getting salary with Bitcoin,shopping,restaurant etc...
How your country gonna survive if you only use Bitcoin in a daily basis? I mean a country cannot survive if individuals doesn't pay taxes,well with Bitcoin you don't pay any tax right?
How this gonna be possible? Please shed for me some light on this.
Thanks

 Wrong.  If you pay with Bitcoin at a business, the business will collect the tax owing on your purchase (it will be part of the total price).  If you get Bitcoin as income, generally the company you work for will remit the taxes to the gov't.  If you don't pay your property tax, your property will be confiscated and sold for taxes owing.  You don't have to worry about governments; they'll get their money out of you one way or another.

 

Yes,but you forget that when you buy something the government get money through VAT and not only from the company you've purchased from.
In addition to that,governments won't be able to tax direct payment between individuals.
634  Economy / Trading Discussion / Is there a trading university/school? on: May 24, 2018, 09:34:37 PM
A question crossed my mind,how professional traders learn trading?
Is there any kind of education to this?If no,is there a specific wiki to learn trading online (like openclassroom for programming for example)
Thanks
635  Economy / Economics / Let's suppose that Bitcoin became universal (used everywhere you go) on: May 24, 2018, 09:26:17 PM
Hi,
Let's suppose that Bitcoin became adopted everywhere such as paying bills with Bitcoin,getting salary with Bitcoin,shopping,restaurant etc...
How your country gonna survive if you only use Bitcoin in a daily basis? I mean a country cannot survive if individuals doesn't pay taxes,well with Bitcoin you don't pay any tax right?
How this gonna be possible? Please shed for me some light on this.
Thanks
636  Economy / Speculation / Re: What would happen if Bitcoin did hit $1m by mid-2020? on: May 24, 2018, 08:57:20 PM
Obviously if this happens, a lot of new millionaires, billionaires and maybe even trillionaires will be born. Do you think this would have a large impact on society? Would this cause nocoiners to become the new low class? Would prices of every day goods rise? Would Fiat currency even be worth anything? Or would we just have a lot of new money in an otherwise unchanged society?

(Hopefully) obviously, this post is purely hypothetical and in reference to John McAfee's prediction.
I think if Bitcoin some day hit $1m it won't stand long in that level as every holder would like to cash out his earnings (As any millionaire would do) and thus the price would decrease almost in time.As usual,media would start talking about it's huge pump (and potentially spread fud as we are used to),at that stage fiat currency would see a big decrease in value too.
But meh,I don't think countries will let Bitcoin go that far,if you know what I mean
637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is this right time to re-enter into Bitcoin? on: May 22, 2018, 11:08:48 PM
Hey everyone,
Today we saw sudden fall on btc.so I was thinking is this right time to buy some btc or wait for more dip..what do you think..
Please reply in comment
I don't think it's a good idea to buy right now,as we are not sure either prices will increase or decrease,the market is not moving too much.
If you are going to enter again you have to catch it from the bottom.Buying now is risky as it can break through and head to 9k+ or bread down and head to 7k.
But if you are willing to buy for long-term holding,it will surely break through sooner or later.So it really depends on your willing Smiley
638  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [FREE EVERYONE RAFFLE]BECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD 21.0 LITECOIN 100 SPOTS on: May 22, 2018, 10:24:04 PM
Thank you for your daily raffles sir
I would like to take #12 please.
Smiley
639  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcoin Talk App for Iphone! on: May 22, 2018, 10:17:51 PM
Dear Community.
I would like someone to develop a mobile application to consult and write in the forum easier than surfing in a browser!
I'm begging please !   Kiss  Cry
I don't think anyone would be interested in making a mobile application for this forum but there is an application that makes browsing forums through mobile much easier.You can try Takatalk for example I don't know if it exists for IOS though.

EDIT:It does exist for iPhone.
640  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Will Bitcoin be used easily in real world purchases soon? on: May 20, 2018, 10:30:25 PM
I hope so! Is there any technology that exists right now that I'm not aware of that allows for goods & services to be purchased or sold online or in person the way we use Venmo or Paypal?
Certainly,there is alot of challenges that faces Bitcoin to become as fluid as normal payments modes such as Paypal because of PoW limits (transactions times,fees) but we clearly see some upgrades like the lightning network,segwit that will help Bitcoin become more used as a currency.
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