I would like to vote for Heutenamos too. More than annoying he seems to have some problems in thinking straight.
You only get one vote, so is it me or him? Bold, Inclined & Underlined ? wow my posts got some Real Weight.  |
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No I just showed you how waste is your thought process.
You are stating your opinions and i don't expect anything else from a judgmental guy who can do nothing other than labeling/abusing people. You don't want scammers to be banned.
No, because ban is a complete different issue and they deserve it when they go against forum rules (not yours or mine) You don't want any actions to be taken against them.
The actions against them are pretty solid and consensus already.I don't have a habit to force people to accept my brand of logic (particularly when it is full of bullshit) You want people to get scammed by the same person again & again.
If they are lacking common sense and have no motivation towards their own safety then YES. Such people can only learn from punishments/scams/losses and not from advises,bans or anything else. Please stop posting on my thread. I am done arguing with you. Better make a self-moderated one next time so that you can delete all the posts which prove you or your mentality wrong  such a child. |
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There is no response from OP my friend.People are waiting for their first weeks payment and i don't think this will continue in future. |
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No I just showed you how waste is your thought process.
You are stating your opinions and i don't expect anything else from a judgmental guy who can do nothing other than labeling/abusing people. You don't want scammers to be banned.
No, because ban is a complete different issue and they deserve it when they go against forum rules (not yours or mine) You don't want any actions to be taken against them.
The actions against them are pretty solid and consensus already.I don't have a habit to force people to accept my brand of logic (particularly when it is full of bullshit) You want people to get scammed by the same person again & again.
If they are lacking common sense and have no motivation towards their own safety then YES. Such people can only learn from punishments/scams/losses and not from advises,bans or anything else. |
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You were the one who brought this topic forward & mixed real life incidents with scams happening on this forum.
Get your concepts/thoughts clear 1st Sir, then comment!
I didn't compared it to real life ,i explained you how they are unstoppable. Though what was the question for ? You need legal lawsuit to identify alt's ? |
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Yes but what if the guy himself scams after building all the reputation required to do one ?
what after making a scam accusation against him ? does it solves the issue ? No, the scam has already taken place and there is no fruit in banning the scammer/user except the useless satisfaction of the victim.
You added it later, that's why could not reply to it. Lets say your family member is murdered brutally by someone. Now tell what would you do? I cannot do anything unless i have some valid evidence bout it. Generally i contact the police and sort that out ,it's possible that the member was not a good guy and his murder was a good thing ? Now, do you think that the local forum scams can/should be compared to life and death situations or even to legal issues ? Get things right Kid. |
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Most of the forum agrees to it because what you say is utter foolishness with no achievements by doing it.People should have the common sense to understand the consequences of their trade/deal whatever.
Now,if we put your question out of the forum then what are governments doing for the ton load of scams ,crimes increasing day by day ? It never ends and the best solution is that the people should take the required precautionary measures.
So you think there are no agencies established that are trying to control scams/money laundering in real world ? Please read this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_launderingwhat is the outcome after having several agencies for that ? some people need to taste the fire in order to know the consequences and avoid it in the future.You can't help everyone. Wikipedia is not reliable. Look at your logic Sir: Wikipedia is not reliable. We should not try to do anything to control scams. We should read to your comments & wait for people to get scammed here or in real world. Implementing controls would reduce scams. I never said that implementing controls/rules/policies would stop scams. Implementing controls is in our hands but preventing scammers from scamming is not. Still, if the controls are implemented then scams would reduce. what makes you think there is no prevention over scams ? many DT members are active most of the time for such reasons.People who ignore the negative rating's and require more help then they should ask for it. I remember asking sebastianju about a lot things i never understand or which seemed fishy to me while i was a newbie. |
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Now you are serving punch! Fruit punch? or Hawaiian? Right in the face where it usually goes... the mouth. But you won't give Godly people any?  You keep focusing on the wrong people. Best regards. When is the penny going to drop that BADecker is NOT on your side? Your Catholic, he's Christian. Both different cults. In his eyes your his competitor, a threat to his cult he's convinced himself will burn in lake of fire. An opponent. The oppoosition. An adversary. WAKE UP! Its a bit of a shame, Its religion that separates them or else they might well have been friends. Well, in reality it's not religion cause people hate each other for nothing and it's been going on since centuries. Rivalry is a part of human/animal instincts |
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Most of the forum agrees to it because what you say is utter foolishness with no achievements by doing it.People should have the common sense to understand the consequences of their trade/deal whatever.
Now,if we put your question out of the forum then what are governments doing for the ton load of scams ,crimes increasing day by day ? It never ends and the best solution is that the people should take the required precautionary measures.
So you think there are no agencies established that are trying to control scams/money laundering in real world ? Please read this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_launderingwhat is the outcome after having several agencies for that ? some people need to taste the fire in order to know the consequences and avoid it in the future.You can't help everyone. Wikipedia is not reliable. |
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the difference b/w sig spamming & placing referral link as part of OP being considered as spam on this forum
The difference doesn't matters anymore.There are rules and you need to follow them cause you can't change it until you have found a solution where more than half of the community members agree with it and i don't see that happening. Yep, I saw that. Priority of this forum administration is to control spam by implementing as many rules & policies as possible BUT not even try to control scam by implementing any rules or policies. No one is coming up with suggestions, all of them are just opposing whatever has been proposed to control scams here. Funny party: As mentioned by you most of the forum agrees to it. Most of the forum agrees to it because what you say is utter foolishness with no achievements by doing it.People should have the common sense to understand the consequences of their trade/deal whatever. Now,if we put your question out of the forum then what are governments doing for the ton load of scams ,crimes increasing day by day ? It never ends and the best solution is that the people should take the required precautionary measures. If you go by my 1st logic: Selling accounts SHOULD NOT be permitted. If you sell your account even on other site then also you are held responsible for anything that happens with this account. Lets say if your account is hacked then forum admin can drop an e-mail to your registered e-mail id & inform you to login ASAP and see what's wrong with the account. Similarly if hacker did any scam using your a/c then you should repay for the losses.
So I get a mail, how does that hold me responsible for a scam with the account I just sold off-site? You will have scam accusation thread against YOU. In any case, if you have sold the account then you won't care about what's happening with your account BUT if we had this POLICY that accounts can not be sold then YOU would have been held responsible for this & YOUR account should have been banned. Yes but what if the guy himself scams after building all the reputation required to do one ? what after making a scam accusation against him ? does it solves the issue ? No, the scam has already taken place and there is no fruit in banning the scammer/user except the useless satisfaction of the victim. |
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Maybe self-moderated posts should be not allowed in the market section all together.
Why it should not be allowed ? people have a right to make the threads for their own taste and if you feel humiliated by it then you are free to make another thread in such situations (you also get this message when the post gets deleted). People should have the common sense to spot scams cause you cannot push everything for it. I'm not just talking about scams... i'm talking about things like delete bad product reviews and such on... If the OP of the thread is really deleting replies which are against to him or his sale then he will be tagged a proper feedback very soon. Neutral in general cases and Negative if it is really scammy. |
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Now you are serving punch! Fruit punch? or Hawaiian? Right in the face where it usually goes... the mouth. But you won't give Godly people any? You keep focusing on the wrong people. Best regards. But he still fails to convince one cause his God doesn't cares about his efforts and neither he cares to prove his own fake abilities God doesn't force anyone to believe in Him. I have done way more than He would have when I proved to you through science that God exists. Jesus always spoke in parables, so that people could figure out the story of God on their own. If they weren't interested, that was okay. It was their choice, and God was holding their freedom of choice open for them.  You weren't able to convince people about your believe and why does God has to hold their freedom of choice when he himself could make it a lot simpler by making himself visible. |
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Maybe self-moderated posts should be not allowed in the market section all together.
Why it should not be allowed ? people have a right to make the threads for their own taste and if you feel humiliated by it then you are free to make another thread in such situations (you also get this message when the post gets deleted). People should have the common sense to spot scams cause you cannot push everything for it. |
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the difference b/w sig spamming & placing referral link as part of OP being considered as spam on this forum
The difference doesn't matters anymore.There are rules and you need to follow them cause you can't change it until you have found a solution where more than half of the community members agree with it and i don't see that happening. |
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Now you are serving punch! Fruit punch? or Hawaiian? Right in the face where it usually goes... the mouth. But you won't give Godly people any? You keep focusing on the wrong people. Best regards. But he still fails to convince one cause his God doesn't cares about his efforts and neither he cares to prove his own fake abilities |
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You can be banned for spam regardless whether or not you are enrolled into a signature campaign.But if a mod thinks you are spaming, they don't care whether or not you are in a campaign.
No you won't be banned unless the 'paying signature concept' is involved in your posting. There are some rare cases but the whole problem of Spam is because of signature's and not just low quality posts. Users are constantly being banned for spam (with or without signatures) though we have been a little lax about it recently and it has built up to crazy levels due to a couple of badly run campaigns but some people are trying to get on top of it and these mass bannings are needed and long-overdue as people have got away with it for far too long. [...]
Please, tell me more. You didn't get my point ,read it again and it looks like you are excluding the bolded part ? Maybe you didn't get mine.
I agree that some campaigns are encouraging spam,
but at the end of the day, spam stays spam, whether you got a paid signature below it or not.
Spam stays spam but it isn't punished until it's irritating/trolling,maybe the posts get deleted now and then. I a not speaking about what campaign rules are cause it's subjective but yes i have seen people getting banned with no signature only because they were trying to reach the potential activity of the (probably) bought account and then enroll it in a signature campaign in the future.There is signature concept again. People get banned (or something similar) for trolling and that is common among all communities. Sig is the difference on BCT. |
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The wall at 1450 shouldn't collapse or else the price will be 1k sat soon,though people want to drop it more.
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You can be banned for spam regardless whether or not you are enrolled into a signature campaign.But if a mod thinks you are spaming, they don't care whether or not you are in a campaign.
No you won't be banned unless the 'paying signature concept' is involved in your posting.There are some rare cases but the whole problem of Spam is because of signature's and not just low quality posts. I can show you many legendary/trusted users not getting banned while their latest posts page is filled with one or two word comments.Sharing experiences and learning stuff is always encouraged but abusing it to get paid is not. This is a global forum and no staff member expects everyone to post in excellent English.It's very easy to spot the difference between a low quality post made to get information about bitcoin etc.. and another low quality post made to get paid and of course it leads to many variations. Isn't ore-mine an investor based game? In my understanding, if that's the case, it'd mean that it works very similarly to a ponzi scheme. Thankfully mining difficulty increases have been in their favor as they try to keep the "real mining" realistic.  I always had this doubt but i don't how people are classifying ponzi's here but oremine is nothing different from other low quality 10$ ponzi script's. Just because he made some better calculations on how he could profit in 2 years ? |
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we have payed 100% of our customers so there is no reason to be considered as i scam
Ponzis pay 100% of their customers until the money coming in is less than the money they are paying out, and they disappear. That was not deleted because of being scam and what your service offers is not relevant to the moderator.It might have been an accident like said by G.Mod above. |
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Didn't read that, since you quoted a post that was off topic. Stay on topic. Anyway, I'd rather focus my attention on the discussion here so if you're one of the people that just came to be offensive and not actually discuss the topic, welcome to my ignore list. Nothing personal. Have a good one. I am not here to offence/accuse you and neither doing it satisfies me by any means but you didn't cared to read what i said about the Ban cause you weren't able to handle your own trust and behavior when someone placed it in front of you. your ignore list is nothing great than others and people don't think of it before posting anything about you. |
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