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641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 08, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
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<kliown> david give me loann
<kliown> :3
Since I cannot reach kliown in any other way (not on IRC now, no known BCT account, this is a warning for all: don't beg or you will be delisted. The only reason why I did not delist kliown right away is possible confusion in previous exchanges (partly du to a bad English level).

Did it again so delisted.
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<kliown> davidd loanns
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Web Wallet on: November 08, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
CounterParty: can't see, I never really looked much at it
Wallet: we'll try to include improvements of the Qt wallet to the web wallet when it will make sense

On another note, rememwer you can buy Spicy Sauce from our IRC member TheKingOfProm! Stake 4 Steak #stakeandcash



Until we create a marketplace...
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 08, 2014, 03:18:08 PM
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<kliown> david give me loann
<kliown> :3
Since I cannot reach kliown in any other way (not on IRC now, no known BCT account, this is a warning for all: don't beg or you will be delisted. The only reason why I did not delist kliown right away is possible confusion in previous exchanges (partly du to a bad English level).
644  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: Pendant ce temps-là, chez NXT... on: November 08, 2014, 02:38:17 PM
Est-ce qu'il y aurait des personnes intéressés à intégrer une "French team" ?
Vu que je pourrais me retrouver à la tête de l'UFE Estonie et que NxT me taraude toujours un peu, ça pourrait m'intéresser. Même si j'ai besoin d'une remise à niveau sur NxT, c'est encore plus compliqué qu'HyperStake !

Puisqu'on parle de financer des startups, l'Estonie a de très méchants avantages fiscaux pour les entreprises transnationales. Moi, je dis ça, je dis rien...

C'est quoi UFE Estonie?
C'était bien ton voyage en Roumanie?
Estonie, pas Roumanie. UFE = Union des français de l'étranger
645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HyperShield strategy on: November 08, 2014, 06:33:31 AM
There is also one thing we can consider. What if we will hold BTC airbag in the form of a portfolio of staking assets?
Emergency funds shall be available in the form of hard BTC. You need immediate availibity for this and you don't want the price tanking because the altcoin crumbles. The only way that could have been possible is just-dice.com but it is closed sine diem because Canadian law.

The stabilization fund can be split into few parts. An emergency buffer, in hard BTC, and a replenishment buffer (we should not rely only on donations), in a set of PoS altcoins with a relatively steady exchange rate and volume. To prevent the price tanking each asset should be bought on the dips (the portfolio will be formed gradually). In this case the replenishment buffer can be urgently sold without a loss if needed.
OK. As long as someone handles the replenishment. Would you be this person?

PS. My hyperloan address

p9qwRDJz8Rm7Xexfq4BiYJNqJJfKLwcPWA
Added. In the future, I will only consider addresses sent to me by PM, to avoid being against the forum rules.
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Web Wallet on: November 07, 2014, 07:17:07 PM
Web Wallet

(new version)

We are considering creating a web wallet for HyperStake (like blockchain.info or coinbase).
Why (in no particular order)?
  • as always with HyperStake, experimenting!
  • first-mover/innovation (and probably at least short-term price rise, even though volume matters more than price). There is no PoS webwallet in existence.
  • wider adoption. The demand for cloud services providing a seamless experience (no risk of HDD crash, no requirements for 24/7 stacking on computer or Raspi, no setup...) would encourage people to have HYP.
  • also, but not sure, the code could be reused for the HTML5 wallet that would come later (and could make Android staking wallet easier).
  • finally, it would integrate nicely with HyperPool. It would really be cloud and green mining!

Things to take into consideration:
  • high security.
  • high availability (hence, scalability).
  • long-term funding.
  • webwallets are by design less secure than cold storage of your own wallet (but less prone to PEBKAC, too).
  • webwallets are less decentralised.
  • the webwallet might not stake, especially at the beginning.


Everyone interested, please join http://hyperstake.slack.com/messages/webwallet (and read http://hyperstake.slack.com/messages/beginners-tips first). You only have to PM me an email address (may be a disposable one, as long as you remember the password)
647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HyperShield strategy on: November 07, 2014, 07:08:00 PM
There is also one thing we can consider. What if we will hold BTC airbag in the form of a portfolio of staking assets?
Emergency funds shall be available in the form of hard BTC. You need immediate availibity for this and you don't want the price tanking because the altcoin crumbles. The only way that could have been possible is just-dice.com but it is closed sine diem because Canadian law.
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 07, 2014, 06:29:34 PM
my thoughts exactly, yeah its registered with a password...
You need to identify. Configure your IRC client for auto-identification on startup. Meanwhile, you can do it manually with /ns identify your_password (with the right nick)

I sometimes had this issue whilst I already have my nick. I never understood why and I had to restart my IRC client and, in rare circumstances, my session.
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HyperShield strategy on: November 07, 2014, 04:40:56 PM

Phase III - nitropool (Progressive Retaliation II)
If it is not enough, then we "go nitro". This means using some of BTC accumulated by HyperShield (donation, eaten buy walls...) to buy hashing power at nicehash. The multipool mines like crazy(loaf), much like a car with nitromethane. And I like the imagery more than "steroids" Smiley


Very good plan, as always, but why do we need a phase of Nicehash&Multipool chain? It's essentially the same as to place a buy wall directly but with the much smaller coefficient of efficiency. A part of a hash power fund will dissipate into thin air because of pools lags. It means that for every BTC spent we will absorb less HYP. Let's use Occam's Razor.
CrazyLoaf is the one who argued the opposite, that nice hash would be more efficient than buy wall. So I expect CrazyLoaf to reply here Smiley

You would monitor NiceHash (since it has the most hash in the most algos available) to see if some had fallen to the point where you could "arbitrage" into HYP at a lower cost. Of course, this also depends on what coins are mineable atm. If there's not an arbitrage opportunity available, better to just spend direct BTC to buy HYP and/or create buy support.

You are right, but it's important not to lose focus on the whole chain. A HYPothetical profit from a mining arbitrage can be completely eaten by a multipool, as the performance of this technology remains arguable to date, imho Smiley
Alright, so it seems I should update the plan, right? Can you propose an rewriting, any of you?
650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: HyperShield strategy on: November 07, 2014, 04:11:02 PM

Phase III - nitropool (Progressive Retaliation II)
If it is not enough, then we "go nitro". This means using some of BTC accumulated by HyperShield (donation, eaten buy walls...) to buy hashing power at nicehash. The multipool mines like crazy(loaf), much like a car with nitromethane. And I like the imagery more than "steroids" Smiley


Very good plan, as always, but why do we need a phase of Nicehash&Multipool chain? It's essentially the same as to place a buy wall directly but with the much smaller coefficient of efficiency. A part of a hash power fund will dissipate into thin air because of pools lags. It means that for every BTC spent we will absorb less HYP. Let's use Occam's Razor.
CrazyLoaf is the one who argued the opposite, that nice hash would be more efficient than buy wall. So I expect CrazyLoaf to reply here Smiley
651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 07, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
Yes, you are right Myagui, this wall shall not be up all the time. So could you rather send the 0.5 to a BTC address that you control, then make this address public. We'll add it to the OP. If someone disagrees with Myagui having control of this address and would prefer someone else to control it, we can discuss it. The issue for me it to have people involved.

I also updated the announcement by mentionning OTC (reduces price volatility and doubts from random sell walls) and mentionned that I'd like the sell wall funding to be opt-out - that is, by default everyone would contribute to the sell wall but could opt-out. This is surely a controversial topic, so I'd like this to be discussed.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / HyperShield strategy on: November 07, 2014, 03:24:19 PM
HyperShield

HyperShield is a set of practices to mitigate extreme price fluctuations (also known as "pumps and dumps"). Like everything in HyperStake, this is a constant work-in-progress but below is the state of the art:

Plan
Phase 0 - business as usual (Preemptive Action I)
Multipool plus sell wall, plus market makers, plus OTC (OTC reduces volatility - ##hyperstake-otc and trading thread). The multipool generates buy pressure, a community-funded (opt-out with necessary mentions) sell wall acts as a deterrent for a pump and a community-funded bounty borrows money to market makers to maintain volume (they keep the benefits). The sell wall is upped when necessary (exactly how and when is yet do be decided). The sell wall being eaten is the signal to move to Phase I.

Phase I - releasing the pressure (Preemptive Action II)
Whales use S4C/HyperSend to kill the pump before it explodes (remember; "HyperShield is a set of practices more than a technology"). For instance: if the price is below 5K, they don't sell. If the price is above 5K, they send 25% of their stake to the exchange for selling (StakeHunter pledge). If the price rises too quickly ("too quickly" being decided by the community), they raise the percentage of staking to be sold. 33%, 50%, 75%, 100%. The will generate an increasingly high sell pressure that will neutralizes the pump. Why just the whales? First, everyone can do it; second, "noblesse oblige" (with great powers come great responsabilities - read Rich man's problems).

Phase II - market bot (Progressive Retaliation I)
If this doesn't suffice and the pump does explode into a dump, then the first retaliation is to activate a market bot for helping in a "soft landing".

Phase III - nitropool (Progressive Retaliation II)
If it is not enough, then we "go nitro". This means using some of BTC accumulated by HyperShield (donation, eaten buy walls...) to buy hashing power at nicehash. The multipool mines like crazy(loaf), much like a car with nitromethane. And I like the imagery more than "steroids" :)

Phase IV - buy wall (Preemptive action III)
Finally, as a last resort, we erect a buy wall with the rest of BTC from HyperShield (it is important that a buy wall is not constantly erected). Worst-case scenario (the buy wall gets eaoten), we have more HYP to sell later at higher price.

What is needed
1. Multipool (already working). Phase 0.
2. Multisend (presstab is on it). Required for building up the sell wall. Phase 0.
3. Bounty (both in BTC/XMR/XUSD and in HYP) for the market maker. Should start as a donation since it requires BTC. Phase 0.
4. HyperSend/S4C (already working). This requires some concertation among large holders in particular. I will contact them. Phase I.
5. Market bot (already working). Phase II.
6. Nicehash account. Should start as a donation since it requires BTC. Phase III.
7. Buy wall. Pledging to give a part of you sales for the buy wall. Phase III.
8. "HyperShield/BTC" donation address for market making, nitropool and buy wall. Address is 1CwkZdajxxneGaohM2TQqzhaA6kDuRVz3m and I control this one, but can share control with other trusted members (better that way - hit by a bus...).
9. "HyperShield/HYP" donation address for sell wall. Address is pRgFiB3HH1D4oPRkW9eSZYr663DMFrs3Mg.
Previous address was pEfYxSV4CdQzLXmL2QN1Jtf3S8AVbYeNbW but a bug prevents reusing it

That's for the strategy. Now, right now, a sell was has been eaten without moving up the price much. I see it as an evidence that HyperShield and needed. So, what can you do right now?

- Someone to volunteer for the HyperShield/BTC address (either in a BTC wallet or straight as a Poloniex address, up to the person). This person must be a trusted member of the community. Myagui (who I trust, by the way) already proposed to place 0.5 BTC in the buy wall.
- Start sending some HYP to the sell wall (I'll do it also). Low priority, though, considering the price.
- Setting up a nicehash account. CrazyLoaf, since you are the one who proposed it, could you take care of this?
- Announcing our program to reduce volatility. Traders won't like it, but normal investors will.
- Continue to promote HyperStake the usual way: HyperLoan, Hypillionaire part deux, Hypberry, HyperPool...
- Remember to stay alert. Being cool doesn't mean being careless :)

More informations:
- HyperShield on the wiki: http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/HyperShield
- HyperShield discussion on Slack (for devoted users, PM me an email address for invitation): http://hyperstake.slack.com/messages/hypershield
- You can chit-chat about HyperShield on IRC (##hyperstake), but with no certainty this will be properly considered, especially if you want something to go on.
653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 07, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
kawa900jc: updated, thanks!
qiwoman2: great, can't wait to see the impact it will have.
654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / HyperSanta on: November 07, 2014, 04:10:00 AM
HyperSanta
Bringing Christmas to a poor soul near you

Christmas is coming (and winter and the Others too). At HyperStake, we are all about sharing, especially with those in need.
That's why we are setting up a donation fund for offering Christmas gifts for children - and not only children but also lonely elders, homeless people...

A bit early, no?
We are starting now because we want to have maximum audience and fund.
And also because, being HyperStake, we want to experiment Smiley

Experiment?
So, HyperSanta will not be just another donation. It will also be the opportunity for exploration.
  • Test a bot with some nice features - the said features are a work in progress so you can propose some too also. For now, we can already say there will be a list of potential purchases so that every time you tip, you may discover than a new item had been unlocked, a game in the donation!
  • Integrate HyperSanta as "cause of the month" in the forthcoming Multisend (it won't be possible to check the list of items on multisend, only with the bot.
  • Introduce an "IRC on steroid", Slack. We are using Slack for several days and really like it. Time to go further and introduce it to you. https://hyperstake.slack.com/messages/hypersanta (and be sure to read https://hyperstake.slack.com/messages/beginners-tips). In order to access Slack, you only have to PM an email address (it can be a disposable address, as long as you remember the password).

Jingle hyp, jingle hyp, jingle all your needs!
655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 07, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
did you get my hyperloan address a few days ago?
Did you check before asking Wink ?
656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 07, 2014, 12:22:45 AM
My hyperloan address is pT7Ff3gXZ4RJA2ydTYNFi7xFjrRMfgJAip

Thanks Wink
Added.

I make use of PC's from recycle centers or straight out of a dumpster.
Costs 0 USD, dumpsters located in business/industry are great sources since companys often upgrade well within 5 years or less...

And now for a slogan:
"From trash to cash"
I'm sure you can do something out of it!
657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / HyperLoan experiment - round 3 - three nominees on: November 06, 2014, 11:23:46 PM
First round of Hyperlan, there was one nominee
Second round of Hyperlan, there was two nominees
Third round of Hyperloan, there will be three nominees
I am not sure yet, but fourth round of Hyperloan might have four nominees (and that will be the maximum - fifth week will still have four nominees, except by Hyperloan stacking).
658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [TEK] TEKcoin 500% PoS/PoW hybrid SuperStake on: November 06, 2014, 09:59:39 PM
I highly recommend participating in multiple POS coins. I have Tekcoin bottlecaps, hobonickles and Philosopher Stones. This way is more efficient as your PC is running anyway why not get multiple POS streams from one PC. I have been considering Hyp. Where is a good place to trade hyp coin? I do not believe that it is on cryptsy.
Poloniex has the biggest volume by far, as well as a XMR/HYP and a XUSD/HYP market - which mean you can get HYP for dollars, possibly at a cheaper rate than VirWoX.
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 06, 2014, 06:53:12 PM
I want to qualify for Hyperloan.

My address is p8o4HNTBoiimkmnWSh2Cy8g326EtDuXAV1
Added.

New banners are available at CryptoClubz.com where they are free to use or earn HYP. The new banners also include El_Kabong's fantastic work.

leaderboard (728x90)
banner (468x60)
wide skyscraper (160x600)

The code is available here http://www.cryptoclubz.com/m/referral/banners  so you can put straight in to your blogs or webpages!
Sign up to get a referral link!
Awesome Dexpla! Could you upload them to http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/Promoting_HyperStake with instructions? You should create an new section "Banners" with picture, instructions and code.
660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HYP] HyperStake | 750% PoS | Advanced Coin Control Wallet | 11 Markets on: November 06, 2014, 02:21:35 AM
it seems snowballs more popular than hyp now and increasing steadily,..
how do you think about it
any opinions?
1. High-PoS seems to be the new altcoin narrative, after fastPoW/PoS and anon.
2. BALLS is new and what is new gets pumped. I remember this when Monero landed on Poloniex and the same for HyperStake. What matters is what they will do after that - this will be the real test of the coin. Remember almost every week a coin steals the #1 position to Monero.

But in the short term, you can probably ride the pump - just be sure to only ride it by selling freshly staked HYP, to minimise the loss.
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