but you havnt answered. all you said was possible options EG offering a service to take the black waste off having a maid remove the ash periodically using an anaerobic process then you say your goal (thus not yet achieved) is to have (again future tense) experts (thus not yet sure yourself) which all reveals your not even ready. yet you kept saying things will be done in next few months and ramping up production to make them in days yet, from what i see now. your not even at prototype stage because you havnt worked out if you want a drainage pipe or a furnace chimney and as for The fish do not get the benefits of our waste thanks to peoples' feelings.
just shows how little you know about some countries law about dumping waste so close to shore. for instance if your seen dumping waste within 3nm of USA. you'll get fined by the EPA so goodluck with finding experts but it has been obvious for a while now. you still have a lot of work to do. and yes there is a little hint above about the legal stuff. it kinda seems your attentions more wish to seek the 'extra services' of costly maids and waste removals you want to charge ontop the time share fee. i understand the business benefit/profitability of such thoughts. but i feel your motives are more rubbing your hands together at the extra income streams you can achieve for holiday home rentals rather than a true seastead LIVING/HOME lifestyle and lastly. self governing (making own laws/rules) is not something you can do when your close to shore like your latest project is trialling. there is 'self policing' but thats more of just a neighbourhood watch thing. as your still limited to not being able to shoot someone without it causing a bit of legal issue from the mainland law but it has been fun seeing you side step questions but pretend to answer them maybe come back when you have final decision answers and not al the ifs and maybes and dreams in otherwords. finalise what your want in the pod. design it accordingly. and also look for what target market you are actually after. because right now you say its seastead living, but subtly hinting at the vacation market of wanted to be the ritz penthouses of the sea. atleast decide a path and what such user experience is expected to have I'm sure you are just on the edge of your seat to see our progress in the coming months. As we actually do things instead of talk about them. I'd welcome you down to come see our progress but...not so much. |
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Consider the halving.
Some people always throw out the idea that if the miners start getting paid half of their reward then mining will end. Well, the scenario they pose is that enough miners stop mining that the few remaining miners cannot mine a block for weeks.
The miners are now getting half of the value they were just last week.
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So I guess we have a day or so to find out if we have a dead cat bounce or a double bottom. Either way, the price will likely go down a bit.
Unless you're buying or have urgent financial need and have to sell or spend I'm not really sure why anyone's bothering to pay attention to the price. It's going to be all over the place for the next 2-3 months at a bare minimum with little relation to fundamentals, reality or anything else one can whip up. It's like worrying about your hairdo after you've been beheaded and the basket that caught your head is on fire. Yes, I'm not worried too much. Even if it's a dead cat bounce I know it will come back up. I'd just rather not have to wait yet another year for the price to get back up in the 5 figures. In the meantime I am copyrighting the Vegeta meme and will be making most of my money based off of that. |
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Ok then. Sorry I answered your question. That is about what I expected.
Don't worry. Lesson learned.
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So I guess we have a day or so to find out if we have a dead cat bounce or a double bottom. Either way, the price will likely go down a bit.
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Excellent, it looks like we all want to talk about toilets on boats. Here are just a few of the options: Composting toilet Marine toilet Incinerating toilet Anaerobic digester Urine diverting toilet Here is a quick primer for seasteading and the #2 question everyone always asks: Seasteading. Where does the poop go?Composting toiletThis is a very simple solution which can easily be used on a seapod. Here are our friends the Wynns explaining the intricacies of their composting toilet they had on their RV which they then installed in their boat. https://www.gonewiththewynns.com/compost-toilet-big-questionsThe downside to the composting toilet is that the user experience is not seamless. Good for people living there long term but we do not want people coming to visit for vacation learning a new toilet procedure using coconut husk or sawdust. There are certainly a lot of different composting toilets, our storage is a few meters below the toilet so we have the benefit of the waste being far below the toilet which helps with smell. Marine toiletThis is what we had on the first seastead. On that one we chose to use fresh water to flush but on our boats we used salt water. In Thailand all of the boats just flush out to sea so that's what we did as well. Our boat didn't even have a waste tank. Here in Panama we will not be letting anything into the water so we will have a black water tank (even though the current boats in the marina and anchorage do not follow any sort of clean waste procedure). We will have a service for pumping out peoples' black water tanks. Fairly simple, the technology has been around and proven for decades. The upside of these toilets is the user experience is the same as being at home. The downside being the need to pay for a service to come pump out your black water. Incinerating toiletThere are several different types of incinerating toilets, the one we are looking at has the same user experience with a hose that runs down to the incinerator. You just dump the ash every couple of months. We are leaning toward this one. The upside is that the user experience is the same as a marine toilet. There is no need for pumping out the black water and for vacationers the maid can just empty the ash periodically. The downside is the cost and the energy usage. Fortunately here in Panama natural gas is cheap so using a natural gas incinerator may keep the price down for energy usage. Anaerobic digesterSeasteader, Jeff Frusha, just started his company in Texas creating anaerobic digesters which converts poop into biogas. He has been pushing this for years on the seasteading forums. I have been in contact with him and he is open to adapting his design for the space we have on the seapod. Here is an explanation of how to build a bio digester. http://www.solarcities.eu/education/388Urine diverting toiletThough not a type of waste disposal system, this can be used with any of the above systems. It helps to separate the urine from the poop. The key being that the mixing of the urine and poop creates the toxicity while poop alone will break down in hours on its own, urine on its own is fairly sterile. Though you need to factor in the prescription drugs that people take along with caffeine and other things so the waste cannot be used for anything useful unless you know that the people living there are not ingesting chemicals that would harm the plants or other things you may use the compost for. While this is all fascinating stuff, our goal is to have experts in each field focus on these things for us. We will likely buy off the shelf products for our first few models as we use what works as much as possible due to the amount of custom engineering needed for everything else. So our focus is on the incinerating toilet first until we have an expert in toilet technology come down to our incubator to design something specific to our design. There is a $4k incinerating toilet that we will buy for the first model that can hose the waste down into the storage area where the incinerator will sit. We have promised the Panama government that we will not dump any waste into the sea. So, just like almost every other thing here in Panama, we are not following what the locals actually do and we are going above and beyond what most of the world does. The fish do not get the benefits of our waste thanks to peoples' feelings. |
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6.5 million Australians, the skint ones, are getting $750 from the government to cheer them up. Will there be more of the same elsewhere?
The US gave out about $1200 after 9/11. To boost the economy. |
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Here in Panama we are currently in the testing phase.
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To make a final statement of how the bathroom is going to be set up without testing is premature. Even on the first seastead after I talked about composting toilets, urine diverting toilets, etc. the engineer (the guy funding it all, who makes the decisions) told the manufacturer to just let it go into the water since we were 13nm out.
as for you pretending to not money grab such as: We are not looking for investors. We are funding it all ourselves. No need for shark tank. Our engineer would not accept investors anyway. We have had to turn people away who want to invest in the business. We are building so we're not really worried about marketing. We have enough work for the next year. We assume that after people see these in the water and can walk on them they will want to buy one or a share of one.
see you pretend to self fund now. get some in the water and then when people go on a tour then they purchase .. but you are already selling time shares and mentioning deadlines of a few months but all you have so far is a 1/3rd scale model and still testing the utilities like the bathroom.. again its been your stumbling block of information withhold for years .. i truly think it might be wort you going bak and re-reading your own words a few times. because its very funny how on page 1 your first post was about YOUR PLAN and how even as far as page 5 you were talking about not wanting to reveal YOUR PLAN until YOU HAVE YOUR HOME IN THE WATER. yea even badecker done a comedical meme of you words. you had a picture of the spire.. and then later the big reveal of the thai pod build and you always on scene.. and then when you finally stood on the pod you were gleefully saying 'im freeeee' .. but later went and retracted everything saying its not your project not your home your just guests and how you had no desire for forming micronations, governments.. (again page 1&2 has you talking about it. infact every page of this topic had you talking about the governance of seasteading) up until the big reveal and eventual seisure .. but anyway point being. your still just testing the toilets. yet you are offering timeshares already.. come on does not sound anything like 'we are not looking for investors' do you atleast see where your 'governance' ICO TIMESHARE vs just a guest of someone elses project. no governance plans. no investment plans differ You may want to look up the term 'governance'. Self-governance, self-government, or self-rule is the ability of a group or individual to exercise all necessary functions of regulation without intervention from an external authority. It may refer to personal conduct or to any form of institution, such as family units, social groups, affinity groups, legal bodies, industry bodies, religions, and political entities of various degree. Again, you try to mix and match projects (there is this thing called 'time', there is past, present and future...). In Thailand self governance was part of the project because we were more than 12nm out. In Panama our project is not even seasteading because we are in a nation's territorial waters with no special economic zone. Of the few different options of toilets, none of them will cost over $5000. That is easy to factor into the cost. Toilets on a boat are not a new thing. All the people on the project have lived on a boat at some point. Not sure what your obsession is about toilets. We are looking mainly at an incinerating toilet but also exploring the option of composting or just marine toilets with tanks. The priority being that it needs to be convenient for the user (no learning curve required). We can have a long discussion on toilets and poop and how it breaks down, how long it takes, etc. if you want. Most people are not fans of discussing poop but you seem to be into it. There are much bigger engineering challenges than that though. Adding a toilet is easy, making a home that can withstand 2-3 meter waves is the one we are more focused on "getting right". .. but you are already selling time shares and mentioning deadlines of a few months We are allowing people to reserve their homes with a refundable $100 deposit, there is certainly no deadline. Besides Anarchapulco and our Facebook group we have not really advertised this option. We knew people at Anarchapulco would be interested so we wanted to make sure the option was available. We are building a manufacturing facility, we want to make sure that there is actual demand (and how much demand there is). That will factor in how much money we spend on equipment. Even Tesla asked for a refundable $100 deposit for their truck that they plan on starting to build in 2022. So...where is this money grab you speak of? $100 from a few people? Is that the whole point of our manufacturing facility, contracts with the marina, purchase of a $150k+ 3D printer, several thousand dollars on scale models, permitting, licensing, paying lawyers for forming a business, getting our homes classified as a houseboat for flagging... |
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you have not even figured out what bathroom functions it will have
Source? |
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it was you that has been promoting it as a single long combined project of yours where you wanted seasteads.
yep you made a crypto specifically for it.
Yep. 3 different projects run by many different people. All one long combined project. I am the only person in the world interested in seasteading so obviously I am running it all. I'll be sure to tell the other projects in St. Lucia and San Francisco that they need to start answering to me because those are my projects too. Here in Panama we are currently in the testing phase. We order samples of what we want to put into the home and try it out to see if it makes sense for the home. To make a final statement of how the bathroom is going to be set up without testing is premature. Even on the first seastead after I talked about composting toilets, urine diverting toilets, etc. the engineer (the guy funding it all, who makes the decisions) told the manufacturer to just let it go into the water since we were 13nm out. We can give estimates of prices at this point because we have already built the prototype and know the costs of that one. We can safely say that we can build a base model for $195,000. This is based on what we are currently paying for labor, what we paid for the 1/3 scale models, what we are paying for material, etc. We know that we have wiggle room of going from the most basic home with tanks to take care of water and waste and a generator for electricity to the more advanced features of solar, batteries, water maker, incinerating toilet, etc. The price stays the same but how much we can offer for that price can be changed. It will still be a floating home on the water. We can add optional add-ons as needed. We are not looking for investors. We are funding it all ourselves. No need for shark tank. Our engineer would not accept investors anyway. We have had to turn people away who want to invest in the business. We are building so we're not really worried about marketing. We have enough work for the next year. We assume that after people see these in the water and can walk on them they will want to buy one or a share of one. Even the first seastead I never talked about it until it was in the water. But at this point a lot of people want to be kept up to date on what we're doing so I let people know. We are not worried about publicity. Are we giving these homes away? No. I'm not sure what world you live in where asking people to pay for something is some sort of scam. These will not be charity homes. People will need to pay for them. We started asking for a refundable $100 deposit because we had several hundred people telling us that they wanted to buy one but unless they actually have to put a small amount of money behind that we cannot gauge the interest. Having a price we can build to that price, it gives us constraints on the level of technology we put into it. It lets everyone in the design line know that we're not building $1 million homes so leave that experimental 30% efficiency solar paint that is being designed in the lab behind and focus on the 50 cents per watt solar cells from Alibaba. Leave the untested water-from-air prototype for someone else as we buy a $5,000 desalinator on Amazon. We had an estimate of $70k for that big window shown in the pictures so we are coming up with better solutions. You say I'm all about the money but this tends to be the number one question we get. How much will it cost? This is something no other seasteading project ever likes to answer. I'm going to be up front about it. Putting a price allows us to get past all of the dreamers of "I'm going to quit my job and go live on a seastead!" to let them know that they'll actually have to pay for their home. It allows for people who actually want to come down here to begin planning. Because this project is actually building something. $10,000 for a one week per year share gives an upper bound of $500k for a fully upgraded home with all the bells and whistles. We will likely leave the share management to third party companies but we are already getting people reserving those, so obviously people want it. A group could get together and buy a basic home for $195k and have 2.5 weeks each year. One of our buyers plans on buying one and tokenizing ownership (he's actually coming down to the build site this weekend to check things out). Our focus is on building these and selling them. What people do with them after that we're happy to assist but can't guess at this point all of the different things that will be done after purchase. |
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having been involved in seasteading for a dozen years now I know that it is mainly people just talking on the Internet and nobody actually doing anything. im glad you finally see my point by your own admissions. that even after a dozen years. all you managed to achieve was to be a guest on a space research pod that was not an actual 'seasteading/bluewater/oceanbuilder' project (remember you yourself denounced association with its funding/designing/involvement) so im glad your finally realising your lack of results even after all them investment campaigns and world wide conference tours I never claimed that I built/designed/funded the first seastead. I'll wait while you provide proof to the contrary. we spent about a year planning the design and working on things like "how do we get water, Internet, electricity, food, waste disposal, etc."
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I was the only one in that project that actually put money into it. I did not have a huge amount of money but I put $10k toward the project so we could get the website going and pay for things like establishing a company, opening a bank account, paying for some professional renderings of our final design, etc. Time number 500 where Franky takes my words from another project and applies it to another project. Your quote was from when I was talking about the Marinea project. You also try to act like I am the only one on all of these projects making all of the decisions. I wish I had been in charge of these projects, things would have turned out a lot differently. Even here in Panama I am the Chief Operations Officer of Ocean Builders. There is a CEO and above him is the guy with the money that actually runs the company (who has been running it all along) https://ocean.builders/about . As for how the water, waste, toilets, etc. work. I can always postulate on the final solution (compost, anaerobic digester, incineration, black water disposal, urine diverting toilet, etc.) but it's not until it's actually implemented that it matters. As for water, that's a simple solution that we used in Thailand and many ships have used for decades (desalinator). Of course, the decision was never mine to make so I could only pose possible solutions. The final solution for waste was to let it go into the ocean and feed the fish below. Garbage was easy enough...just take it back into town whenever we were heading in (just like boats do). The key being to try not to bring a lot of garbage out in the first place (get rid of plastic before coming out, leave the packaging on the boat, etc.). We never planned on being fully self sufficient. People don't get that through their heads and still don't get it. I don't know how many ways someone has to say it but you do not have to be fully self sufficient (especially on the prototype model). I think my analogy gets lost when I say "we're not building our own chips for computers on the seastead", but unfortunately I even had someone saying that we should be doing that and make sure we deal with the heavy metals or whichever that we'd be using. Seriously. No nation in the world is even fully self sufficient so why would it be expected that a single home can provide every solution to everything? How many rice patties does Singapore have? Enough to feed all of their people? As for Franky thinking I don't answer the question. When my answers are manipulated and twisted, it is better to not answer your questions. I am making a mistake by even posting this because now you will look at something I said back in 2009 about wanting to get Ron Paul elected and talk about how much I love Trump because Ron Paul was a Republican running for president and Trump is a Republican running for president so it is all the same thing. Even after my full explanation of the past 3 DIFFERENT projects I VOLUNTEERED on you still believe it is all one project and that I was running all of them. I also promote Bitcoin and answer questions about Bitcoin. Am I Satoshi? |
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Just file with paper this year.
Nobody at the IRS will want to open these potential Corona virus letters.
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People keep telling me the halving is priced in.
But obviously the miners are living paycheck to paycheck like the rest of the world. They sell as soon as they get bitcoin.
People can pay wholesale prices for bitcoin right now.
At the halving, that wholesale cost will be the same but the miners reward will be cut in half.
One article I read said that 25% of all bitcoins sent to the exchanges are from miners to sell. That amount will soon be cut to 12%. A lot less people selling on a regular basis.
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I just found out about it. I heard a long time ago about casino ships in countries where casinos are prohibited, but I hear about accommodation for the first time. If you do this, you need to carefully consider where to get food, where to take out the garbage, etc. But the idea is good!
The casinos on ships are not in the countries. The ships might be registered with a country. But when they do their casino activities, they do it outside of the 12-mile limit, so that they are in international waters. Many governments want to legalize international waters. The UN has been trying to do this for years. The point is that legal anywhere is important only when there is military or police strength to uphold and enforce the legal activity. Might doesn't always make what is right, but it always makes what exists. Yes it is not about prohibited or not but about paying taxes. There are casinos in Florida so should be slowed also in Miami port. But If ships would allow gambling close to Florida coast then they would need to follow Florida gambling regulations and pay taxes there. 15 years ago I worked on a cruise ship and casinos simply started working after ship go to international waters. Same with the shops. On cruise ships that also makes sense. When on sea everything is open, when the ship dock then people go off the ship. So there is not even need to have casino and shops open. Even most bars are closed during port days. And crew members can go off the ship or take a long sleep. I've been to one of these casinos in Florida. I got on a ferry that took us 12 miles out to a casino boat. We sat out there gambling all day then came back on the ferry. I have no idea how they pay taxes or if they do at all. The thing US seasteaders do not understand is that by living in international waters they are subject to paying US income taxes as if they are in the US. People who live outside of the US get the Foreign Earned Income tax credit which makes it so that their first $100k of income is tax free if they live in another country. But if you are in international waters you are not in a foreign country. So the default goes back to paying full US income taxes. This has been demonstrated in court cases, one man on a contract in the Antarctic tried to claim the Foreign tax credit. He was turned down due to not being in a foreign country. So the whole idea of seasteading being a tax haven is false. You must pay more taxes (as Americans). |
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My initial theory about this was that the fact that China is communist, and communists being communists a mass killing was due. Communists try to make everyone as equal as the weakest among them.
The more weak people there are, the more it hurts the rest of the population. Solution? Create a virus that kills the weak (wipe out the elderly so you can stop taking care of them).
Congratulations, you're old enough to stop being productive...now die.
Communism is the worst system for protecting the weak.
What I'm interested in is how this affects different groups in the US. For example if it infects everyone but only causes serious damage in old people then there should be a serious uptick in old people deaths in communities that don't take precautions vs communities that do take precautions. In other words, if Chad the Republican hero gets this and insists on visiting ma and Pa who also believe that this is just a hoax to damage their dear leader then they should have a higher mortality rate than Timmy the Timid Dem who takes precautions and doesn't expose his parents (who would probably shoot him if he approaches). We'll see. Reality is the ultimate bullshit director, and this could have an impact on communities that define their own subjective realities. Timmy the Timid will likely go to the hospital if he has a little cough thinking he has the Corona virus. Turns out he didn't, but by going to the hospital now he does. |
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Hm. This does seem to be a disease that takes out older people. And the response from people with something for an actual brain (ie: experts in this, not dumbfuck pols) seems to be shifting to "protect the elderly!" I am really curious to see what happens in places like the US and UK. My initial theory about this was that the fact that China is communist, and communists being communists a mass killing was due. Communists try to make everyone as equal as the weakest among them. The more weak people there are, the more it hurts the rest of the population. Solution? Create a virus that kills the weak (wipe out the elderly so you can stop taking care of them). Congratulations, you're old enough to stop being productive...now die. Communism is the worst system for protecting the weak. |
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Update on our shipments from China. I had 2 I was waiting for. One is ready to ship, they sent me a video of the crane being tested which also showed a lot of workers there working (all with masks).
The other one should ship in a couple of weeks.
I put in an order of some steel plates and there is no talk of delays.
Hopefully things are going back to normal.
I expect this all to fizzle out in a couple of months.
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Posted this on Farcebook:
To my future 2021 friends that will be asking me how to make money with "crypto" as the bitcoin price shoots up.
The price is currently under $7700/BTC. This is when you should have been buying if you wanted to "make money".
The real answer though is that bitcoin is money. You should not be buying to get more fiat(government money, dollars, etc.) you should be converting your old currency to your new currency that can't be confiscated by governments, frozen by banks, stopped from giving or receiving, and is backed by math not war. If governments were using Bitcoin they wouldn't need to prop up their currency with more math.
The halving is 2 months away. The price has shot up after every halving over the course of a year. While the next 2 months will likely be very volatile, it will go up after the halving. People buying now are not "lucky". They are informed.
*posting for posterity*
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