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1501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 07, 2018, 06:53:43 PM
7 days left in the pre-sale.

We've surpassed 1000 in our ETH wallet. We're at 1990 ETH overall. It's starting to pick up steam these last days of the pre-sale.

If you still haven't had the chance to buy, here is a link to help you with setting up a wallet:

https://medium.com/@bluefrontiers/how-to-create-an-eth-wallet-to-hold-varyon-57551fae3c4f

1502  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 06, 2018, 11:05:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ07sM5w_Dk
My Story of Being Tortured in Prison. Roger Ver, CEO of Bitcoin.com
This is a brief story of what happened while I was in prison. I have more stories to share, if you enjoy this type of content.
Shocking.
Can't a few hundred millions afford a place (or hotel or whatever) with less horrible curtains? Really shocking.
P.S.: Interesting story though.
I will admit that Roger is a decent story teller; however, he does not really seem to understand the concept of "torture."  
On the other hand, even if he can show that he has various human characteristics and he is empathetic, a lot of this can end up being a distraction (and an appeal to emotion) that takes us away from considering the narcissism that seems to motivate his ongoing involvement in bcash and using bcash as an ongoing attack on bitcoin and deceiving other people (especially dumb people and newbies.. and probably even traps some smarter people into such deceptions in their hopes that bcash will pump relative to bitcoin if they realize the difference) into believing that bcash is some kind of "bitcoin"
Starts off "I am roger ver CEO of bitcoin.com"  do websites have CEO's?  or is he pretending to be important in bitcoin.
Lost my sympathy closed window minutes later, f off loser liar

I feel sorry for roger, been a lot of pressure on him, unsure if it is self inflicted though.
All I got out of that was
Blah, Federal, Blah, Federal, Federal, Blah Blaaaaahhhhh I was brainwashed its not my fault.

Please stay away from the door knob

Gary Davis
https://youtu.be/hJ07sM5w_Dk?t=90
I call bullshit (Roger Ver - A forum to discuss things on the internet), is that all it was.


Yeah Ok roger just fireworks hey
 I ran for California state assembly in 2000


Memory Dealer
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=10310
    
Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Foundation
28-09-2012, 04:52:02

In reality,  I ran for California state assembly in 2000 as a Libertarian / Voluntarist.
I said enough to upset the feds so much that I became the only person in the USA to be prosecuted for selling a legal product
that was also being sold by hundreds of other companies across the USA including http://www.cabelas.com/
http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/press-releases/2002/verPlea.htm
There is no freedom of speech.
This is why the world needs Bitcoin, and this is why I support bitcoinfoundation.org


I have nothing against Ver. I don't support Bcash now solely because it did not catch on and the more dominant won out. No need to work every angle to change that from happening. If there is a better way to raise the block size I believe it will present itself among the devs. Not through hype. Before the split my only hope was that it did not hurt Bitcoin overall, whichever side worked out.

I even helped him out a few weeks ago when some scammer was creating fake roger.ver instagram accounts trying to befriend people and get them to invest in some shitty pyramid scheme. The scammer targeted my gf who's english isn't that great but she handed the phone over to me as she does when people want to talk complicated crypto stuff. I let him know since that's just a shitty thing for anyone and scammers like that should be discouraged.

I agree with his voluntarism ideals more than so many others in the crypto world who have come in and shit all over the place. Then again, money changes people. It's hard to become super rich and stay grounded.
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 06, 2018, 12:50:00 AM
8 days left for the pre-sale!

Don't forget to follow Blue Frontiers on Facebook so you know when the main sale starts.

https://www.facebook.com/BlueFrontiersOfficial/
1504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 05, 2018, 01:11:15 AM
9 days left, get in the pre-sale while you still can.

Countdown can be found here:
https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/varyon


Almost 1900 ETH today.
1505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2018, 01:08:30 AM
That was no moon. Undecided

Still under $10k.

 Cry
1506  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 03, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
So another peek behind the curtain of the ICO world...

Most of these ICOs that raised a shitload within seconds of opening up their sale are actually big crypto funds that have all been worked behind the scenes where the majority is the huge fund while they have the last couple of percent from the small investors.

Blue Frontiers went into this believing the hype that if your idea is good enough, people will flock to invest in it. Our grassroots effort has gotten us about half way to our soft cap, even while not allowing US and Chinese investors which is pretty decent. We close the pre-sale next week and hopefully we can get some of the big funds to take it from there.

While I doubt anyone from these big funds will be my future neighbors, I look forward to the current crop of varyon buyers who saw the vision early on to come live on the new seasteads.
1507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 03, 2018, 08:27:12 PM
In case anyone missed it, the pre-sale ends on July 14.

Get in now to get your 5-15% bonus while you still can. If you already pledged, you can add to that and raise a tier to get a higher bonus.

1 to 10 ETH: bonus 5%
10 to 40 ETH: bonus 10%
40 ETH and up: bonus 15%

Only 11 days left.
1508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 03, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
As a community,  is it possible to collaborate and effectively come up with a video presentation on why Blue Frontiers is important. In order to promote the project?

Any ideas you have are more than welcome. Some people have been doing personal videos where they tell their reasons for supporting the project.

Like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs6Nx6ywfsw

Definitely feel free to make your own videos and upload them to Youtube. Blue Frontiers will gladly disseminate them.

1509  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 03, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
Finally Bitcoin is recovering from the bloodbath that happend this past months. we're at the 7k$ mark right now! more and more are entering the market

Bitcoin price still under $10k.

 Cry


Has the chain of blocks failed us all?
1510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 03, 2018, 08:11:40 AM
Also announced are the team lockup times.

Team Token Lockup
Blue Frontiers is allocating 15% of Varyon tokens to the team, which consists of the founders and executives, full and part time staff, more than one hundred professional volunteers, and advisors.

All team tokens will be locked for one year from the end of the TGE. Founder tokens will be vested over 4 years. Key employees’ tokens will be vested over two years.

The team will also be required to accept a significant part of their compensation in tokens, from 10% to 40%, and 40% specifically for founders. Payments received until Dec 2021 in year N are locked until the last day of year N+1.

The Volunteer team will be allocated approximately one percent of the total token issuance. Volunteer tokens will be locked for one year.

Some advisors will be awarded half of their tokens at the close of the sale, with the remaining tokens being vested over the course of one year.
1511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO][VAR] 🐬 Blue Frontiers - Sustainable floating islands 🐬 on: July 03, 2018, 06:39:03 AM
Exciting news. The varyonomics has been released and updated in the white paper.

This is one of the major updates for the main sale but we are releasing it just before the end of the pre-sale which ends July 14th. So get your ETH in before then to get the 5-15% bonuses.

The Varyonomics are described here with full details in the white paper.

Some of the main points of the updated varyonomics are that in addition to using varyon as the currency to interact with Blue Frontiers there will be significant amounts of varyon used for staking purposes.

Staking means locking away varyon in a smart contract for many different things in the SeaZone.

The biggest staking requirement will be the surface occupation stake. Basically any platform or anything occupying space in the SeaZone will need to lock away a set amount of tokens to monopolize a given space. This takes supply out of the market thus creating value. Periodic auctions of monopolized space will ensure that those locations that are most desired lock the highest stake.

Staking also allows stakeholders to veto proposals by Blue Frontiers and to amend the SeaZone charter in a weighted heterarchical decision-making process, with length of staking granting somewhat higher weights for the same amount of staked Varyon.

One major component is the Vickrey Auctions which will be used for selling major infrastructure such as seastead platforms. Vickrey auctions essentially allow people to bid what they actually want to pay without needing to game the system. What the white paper does not get into which I believe is the most significant part (most likely to get it out before the end of the pre-sale, and it's very complicated so trying to get it into simple terms has been difficult) is the method used to ensure that varyon's value is not depreciated by the auction. I will not butcher the details but it is something like setting the minimum bid amount to all varyon that have been sold (do not quote me on that because it is very complicated and I have not wrapped my head around it enough to put into simple terms yet, which is likely why they did not include the full explanation in the white paper yet).

tl;dr: Varyon pre-sale ends July 14. Varyonomics were added to the white paper which give some real value to owning varyon. The added details are what were required by the big funds which are waiting in the wings for us to add these things before they would buy.

1512  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 03, 2018, 03:10:50 AM
I can't stand it any more, living in secrecy.

I am Satoshi Nakamoto.

Here is proof. The alert key.

mainnet public key:
04fc9702847840aaf195de8442ebecedf5b095cdbb9bc716bda9110971b28a49e0ead8564ff0db2 2209e0374782c093bb899692d524e9d6a6956e7c5ecbcd68284

mainnet private key:
30820113020101042053cdc1e0cfac07f7e1c312768886f4635f6bceebec0887f63a9d37a26a92e 6b6a081a53081a2020101302c06072a8648ce3d0101022100ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffffffffffffffffffffefffffc2f300604010004010704410479be667ef9dcbbac55a0629 5ce870b07029bfcdb2dce28d959f2815b16f81798483ada7726a3c4655da4fbfc0e1108a8fd17b4 48a68554199c47d08ffb10d4b8022100fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03 bbfd25e8cd0364141020101a14403420004fc9702847840aaf195de8442ebecedf5b095cdbb9bc7 16bda9110971b28a49e0ead8564ff0db22209e0374782c093bb899692d524e9d6a6956e7c5ecbcd 68284
1513  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 02, 2018, 04:50:32 AM
Whats wrong with conspiracy?  Some things should absolutely be questioned until the truth is in a majority consensus.


It is when the majority is in consensus that I start questioning things.
1514  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 09:28:00 AM
It would do more than just provide a currency system it is a truth system as well


Truth of central bank inflation and tax lies


....and the currency wars continue

This. If as many people that bought bitcoin understood why Bitcoin...things would change quite rapidly.


Unfortunately most just watch the price trying to figure out when to get out.
1515  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 05:37:38 AM
Big jump in price coming in 5....


Edit: nvm...usually goes up when I get a big order on LBC.
1516  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 05:35:58 AM
I will delete this post.

We've been waiting on you to delete all your posts. Followed by your account too.

We really have been inundated by trolls as of late. More than I have ever seen yet. I haven't been around this thread long enough to know, is there a generally accepted correlation between troll activity and the market like there is in the Monero speculation thread?

You missed the last bottom troll that was NotLambChop.

She was so bad they had to change the forum policies for new accounts because of her.

What did she do that was so bad and how did they change the rules in response?

*edit* Was NotLambChop crumbs? I see some people claiming he/she was. Man I fucking hate that guy. He had this way of "arguing" that would lead you on a wild goose chase forever. He would kind of address your point but subtly draw the conversation enough off track that the culmination of each deviation was this meandering never ending path through the swamp. Infuriating. Angry Or even if they aren't the same person. Doing a little research on NotLambChop forced me to remember that guy.

She was some fat financial reporter for the legacy finance system (come to find out).

She would come on here with a new account and post pictures of unicorns and naked old men. Constantly. The admins had to play whack a mole with her accounts she was creating banning her over and over and over as she logged into this thread to do the same thing non-stop.

The rule was changed so that new accounts could not post pictures until reaching like 2 months of activity.
1517  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 04:34:04 AM
I will delete this post.

We've been waiting on you to delete all your posts. Followed by your account too.

We really have been inundated by trolls as of late. More than I have ever seen yet. I haven't been around this thread long enough to know, is there a generally accepted correlation between troll activity and the market like there is in the Monero speculation thread?

You missed the last bottom troll that was NotLambChop.

She was so bad they had to change the forum policies for new accounts because of her.
1518  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 02:01:10 AM
In this video Tommy Lee is much more interesting and it is only 6 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWRYqyRi1yI
1519  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2018, 09:35:16 PM
Something that might be interesting to consider is why some of you seem to be so invested in the idea of segwit being the ultimate good that you call anyone who question it, even on a technical security front, names. What's up with that?

In times of war, the cannon fodder must be convinced that they enemy is not human.
It's true. Friend from school, a few years younger, he is an afghan vet. They call the locals over yonder jallas. Cause they go jalla jalla jalla when they attack. Necessary in order to be able to shoot them.

Which brings us to the question, who is the real enemy here?

We used to call them hajjis. It refers to people who have traveled to the Hajj (a ritual of taking a pilgrimage to Mecca). The thing being that it pretty much encompassed all foreigners in Iraq/Afghanistan/etc. even though most of the people working there were Pakistani. One of the commanders sent an e-mail out saying how it was an ignorant slur and to not use it anymore. To which someone asked if we could just call them oompa loompas...  last time I was there the term TCN (third country national) was adopted.

The word they have for us is essentially "the jews".
1520  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 30, 2018, 07:01:24 AM
These single large pumps are not good indicators of a turnaround. High volume rise over the course of a day would do it. Not a single jump.

Bitcoin is still under $10k  Cry

There seem to be a lot of ways in which a trend can reverse.. one of them does involve getting some kind of BIG up candle, but sometimes we get trickle too...

Many of us should realize that it can be quite difficult to recognize or figure out a reversal... remember late 2015 and early 2016 - even into early 2017.  In October/November 2015 there was a pump from upper $200s to $500, and then a recovery and then nearly a six month question about whether BTC prices were going to go above $500.  Such $500 price point was again challenged after the August 2016 Bitfinex crash, and thereafter $800 was questioned (including considerations of returning to $500) in February/March 2017 which seemed to revolve around whether various alt coins were a threat towards BTC's dominance and questions about whether BTC scaling was going to resolve...

Personally, I even had my own doubts about when that 2013/2014 trend had reverted into a bull market, and I found the May 2016 push above $500 to be a pretty strongly convincing sign.. in spite of the subsequent FUD spreading and questioning of the strength of BTC and the then upwards BTC price momentum. 

In our current BTC market situation, getting above $10k and staying above $10k might be our new $500 threshold point that needs to be be breached before a certain level of largely unambiguous confidence is achieved (regarding reversal and resumption of the bull market).

I believe the reversal was when we had like 2 months of relative stability in the price. We were less volatile than the Brazilian Real and for a moment we were even more stable than the British Pound. That's a good solid bottom to form the base of the cup for a cup and handle rise.
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