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1041  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2018, 03:10:03 PM
I have some euro in a German bank that I've been too lazy to get out.

I'll buy bitcoins with them if the price hits $3300. That might give me 2 BTC and I can finally close out that account.
1042  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2018, 06:32:12 AM
There's a reason why at weddings men wear black and women where white.

I have the same suit for weddings and funerals. Many similarities in both.
1043  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2018, 06:09:08 AM
I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

*in the US
1044  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2018, 06:06:19 AM
I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.
1045  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 25, 2018, 03:31:06 AM
4k bitcoin buy wall on Bitfinex at $3,500.

All past experience indicates that whoever is trying to drop the price wants it to crash below $3,500.  Angry

This is not cool.
1046  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2018, 11:45:18 AM
You also need government protection if you were to establish any seastead, which ultimately makes a seastead largely unfeasible because you are going to be in nearly constant negotiations for your own sovereignty and protection(s) in order to maintain your anti-government posture, you have to suck their dicks.. probably figuratively. 

The only thing we would need government protection from is the government.
1047  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2018, 08:47:09 AM

Umm...the guy said a whole lot of nothing with a lot of words.

Yes, lots of words is what he uses.

But there is an interesting thought on what he calls the ‘Metagame’. In other posts, he describes the behaviour of a coyote encountering a group of humans. The coyote stares down the humans with an expression like ‘I do not care for you humans; I’m not afraid of you’. And puts his nose in the air, turns around and goes away.

The coyote wins this game.

But the humans get together and discuss what they saw. A threatening predator that shows no fear for humans and willing to confront them instead of running away scared at the first sight of humans. The humans vow to hunt this animal so that it’s numbers are decimated.

The humans win. The humans win the Metagame. The coyote is not able to understand that by winning the individual with his behaviour, it is losing the Metagame.

I guess that is what he tries to ask: how is the cryptocurrency community intending to deal with the humans called ‘king’ when taking away their claim on society’s money? How will it save itself from the wrath of the King?

You’ll have to read it all between the lines but I sense that the author understands the tremendous power of of the idea of cryptocurrency. But somehow considers it a lost cause if it’s community does not come to terms with the King on how to blend in and give the King the King’s due.

Personally, I think the King may have less teeth than envisaged. On the other hand, it does is a force to recon with.

This guy does a lot of deep thinking (with a lot of words to express it  Cheesy ). It stems me positive to see some signs that he may be moving ahead in his thinking about cryptocurrency. We won’t make it just with this WO community (sorry guys).

I'm not disagreeing with the guy. Just kept waiting for the metagame portion that you mentioned.

I believe the ideal is that Bitcoin itself is a virus to the king. Slowly consuming until the king (banks) is dead.

Strangely enough, this was discussed in some of our seasteading discussions. We don't want to piss off the puppet masters who actually control things (especially early on). So we may have to put a Citibank on one of the first seasteads as an offering to the gods.
1048  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2018, 07:28:24 AM
So in 2014-2015 the price was down from the all time high. The reality is that the price shooting up to $1200 a year after it was about $12 was a bit premature. But the halving dislodged the supply from demand in a way that nobody really knew what to expect since it was completely new to the market. The price came down to more reasonable levels for the amount of bitcoins coming into the market vs the demand.

In 2016 there was another halving. This time people anticipated that the price would rise like in 2012 so they began buying. The same thing happened again, the supply and demand were dislodged and people misjudged how that would affect the price. But this time there were some larger investors involved since institutions were able to dip their toes into it. Thus the rise to $20k.

The price right now reflects the fact that there are some large institutions with their money in bitcoin but I believe we found the equilibrium of supply and demand around the $6400 range. Though that may have been due to remnants of the FOMO folks still hoping for recovery. Right now people are unreasonably dumping but we still may have some FOMO hold outs that are not yet desperate to leave, so the price may still go down further until they are scared out of the market. Institutions may even start dropping off at times of investor reporting or other institutional reasons. Some may recognize this as a cycle and double down (but don't trust Wall Street folks to be that smart).

The key here is that there is not another halving until 2020. So we will be in this price discovery phase for at least a year.

If history repeats itself, the few remaining hodlers will desperately be telling people a year from now "the halving is coming...hold on just a little longer!...Please!...".

Or, people who saw that the price began to rise a few months before the last halving may start putting their money in a few months before a few months before the halving.

Either way, I would say at least until next fall you should not expect to see any decent prices. News, technical advances, etc. never really have any impact on the price (at least in the short term, it just provides fundamentals in the long term).

I wish this were not the case as I will be selling seasteads starting next year. Coinciding with a market boom would be ideal. But that's just the reality of how the market reacts to halvings.

Then again, who knows...past does not predict future...but we can see some similarities.
1049  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 24, 2018, 05:45:35 AM
All good points.

Though those born into the system don't really have a choice.

It's quite tough to actually apportion blame really because if they want to get assfucked more than to find alternative ways to exist then perhaps there is no blame. Merely people that do want to be assfucked and some that do not. The minority should either take a part of anal island and start their own thing or leave for the new island. That's if the minority did not want to get ass raped. If they were the majority then the ass raping fans should go and set up else where.

I believe the #taxationistheft folks wish that this would become the majority view and the theft fans should be the ones to go and set up elsewhere.

I agree, every piece of land is taken by the ass rapists so there is no "if you don't like it just leave".

I think blockchain and smart contracts could actually be the start of something that could present a better system. We will wait and see.

I agree. In time this should provide many of the solutions.

I also see seasteading as the solution for those that want to "leave the island". This also we will wait and see.
1050  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 24, 2018, 05:31:12 AM

Umm...the guy said a whole lot of nothing with a lot of words.

Ending with "if you like what I just said, go to this epsilon site to learn more".

The whole article sounded like someone who just learned about Bitcoin and was like "hey guys...I know this Bitcoin thing was made just to get people rich, but have you ever thought that it could be used for liberty?".   Roll Eyes

2009 called...they want their whole point of Bitcoin's existence back.
1051  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 04:39:24 PM
Bitfinex added RSK (RBTC).

Quote
Today we are pleased to introduce trading for RSK (RBTC) - a smart contract platform secured by the Bitcoin network.

Trading will be enabled for RBTC against BTC and USD. Margin markets may be introduced pending the development of a sufficiently liquid trading market.

RSK is the first smart contract network secured by Bitcoin. The network provides scalability whilst reducing storage and bandwidth usage using probabilistic verification and sharing techniques, thus providing flexibility for instant payments such as retail-ready store payments and microcredits.

RBTC is the native token of RSK and is used to pay gas to execute RSK transactions and smart contracts. RBTC is pegged 1:1 to BTC, and can be autonomously converted to/from BTC through the so-called 2WP’ that bridges the Bitcoin and RSK protocols.

https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/318

Strange...in theory it should be 1:1 so what does adding it to the exchange do? Other than allow Bitfinex to fractionally reserve RBTC.

I spent some time on Rootstock...never got it to run on my linux box trying to compile from scratch. Admittedly I have Java 10 running and it uses Java 8 so I had to do some editing. I guess it was a bit too reliant on keeping with their set system of compilers.
1052  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 03:11:11 PM
A good year of posts like these should do the trick.

Dear n00bs that are in bitcoin to win some big fiat prize...bitcoin is over. Listen to the trolls. You lost your fiat.
1053  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 02:01:13 PM
Btc will collapse to zero.  My friend is a high up in wall street.  Get out while you still can. Dont be left holding worthless fake money.

I hope your friend "high up" in wall street gets out of bitcoin.

He can buy it back when he needs to pay for bread in the bread line.
1054  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 12:34:38 PM
I HATE THIS FUCKING WORLD, EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND FUCKING MONEY.  WHY THE FUCK CANT WE JUST ALL SHARE THE FUCKING RESOURCES FOR BASIC SURVIVAL.  WHY SHOULD A FUCKING MARKET DETERMINE IF SOMEONE GOES HOMELESS. FUCKING ALL THE LAND IS OWNED BY FUCKING BILLIONAIRES , HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU OWN LAND IT SHOULD BE FREE WE WERE BORN ON EARTH.  JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE POOREST PEOPLE ARE THE HARDEST WORKERS. THIS LIFE IS FUCKED GLOBAL WARMING KILLING US ANYWAYS.
Sadly that's the truth and climate change will be our first problem sooner or later.

However... how the fuck we get out this situation? I would start to reduce dramatically the population and you would see how fewer resources we need! But it's a complex talk...

In the end, this is what all liberals (I think they are ok with us calling them what they are now...communists) really want. For everyone to die. Their whole belief system revolves around the craving for death.

I'm not sure why, perhaps their life is so miserable that they want to die but just can't bring themselves to kill themselves. So they want a system that makes that happen in a slow and horrible way...but for everyone in the world (because...equality).

Also might be why I run into so many transhumanists and people that want to live for hundreds/thousands of years among libertarians. Their belief system revolves around living. Even Hal Finney froze his head in the hopes of being able to fight death.
1055  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 23, 2018, 12:20:17 PM
Imagine that there is a small island with many people just living their lives, they have no taxes but they have a wealthy patron that pays for their government. Roads, hospitals, police, etc.

His only condition is that he has to have anal sex with everyone on the island at least once a year.

This goes on for years, young people are born and when they turn 18 they do their civic duty and provide the guy with their anus for the sex contribution. The guy passes down the tradition to his male children and this goes on for generations.

Then the rumblings begin of certain people saying "yearly anal contributions are anal rape!". People justify the anal rape as something that's always been done. "If you don't like it you can just leave", "it's the price we pay for a civilized society!", "what about the roads!?!", "it's only anal rape if the government doesn't spend the money right", "it's not rape because it's legal", "it's not rape if they're gentle", "on my island he takes me to dinner before I am forced to have sex with him so it's not really rape". Everyone justifies anal rape as normal because they don't know any other way of getting government services so they just accept it as normal.

People getting anally raped is a normal thing. Because government services.

Someone may step forward and say "why don't we just only pay for the services we use? then we could stop being anally raped every year.". After all of the justifications for being raped anally people in the end don't like what the guy is saying mainly because it's easier for them to get anally raped than to pay for things they want. Some even enjoy it so to them it's not rape. Some just can't conceive of how such a system would work so they'd rather just keep getting their ass torn up because it's just how things work. They see him as a threat to their normal way of life and attack him in the hopes that he'll just shut up already.

Or worse, some people are exempt and tell the people getting raped that it's their duty ("think of it like paying rent"...even though you're paying my rent too). They even like the system because the people they don't like tend to get raped harder.

Then some people may finally say...we'll just create a floating island where we don't have to get anally raped and move there.

Instead of people saying "well that's your decision, good luck with that" they are openly hostile to such an idea. "I hope your island sinks!", "you'll end up getting raped by someone even if it's not called rape", "a society without anal rape just can't work", "what about the waves!?!", "Pirates!".
1056  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 05:45:07 AM
Let's blame etherium. "Internet 2" my ass. All it accomplished was setting a horde of crooked shitcoin tokens on the world. I hated that crap from the getgo for good reason.

Ethereum turned the Bitcoin revolution into the "crypto" revolution.

People that couldn't work within the structure of a secure and honest means of transferring value had to go to Ethereum to create shit scams. Then call it "crypto" to act like they're part of Bitcoin.
1057  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 05:31:37 AM
I HATE THIS FUCKING WORLD, EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND FUCKING MONEY.  WHY THE FUCK CANT WE JUST ALL SHARE THE FUCKING RESOURCES FOR BASIC SURVIVAL.  WHY SHOULD A FUCKING MARKET DETERMINE IF SOMEONE GOES HOMELESS. FUCKING ALL THE LAND IS OWNED BY FUCKING BILLIONAIRES , HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU OWN LAND IT SHOULD BE FREE WE WERE BORN ON EARTH.  JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THE POOREST PEOPLE ARE THE HARDEST WORKERS. THIS LIFE IS FUCKED GLOBAL WARMING KILLING US ANYWAYS.

They don't own all of the water...


...yet.... Wink
1058  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 23, 2018, 03:13:47 AM
I think that taxes are used for other purposes. Instead of improving the situation this money is used for the entertainment of rulers and for war. I believe that taxes do not need to be paid and then it will be better.

Anyone who paid US taxes or used Federal Reserve Notes are complicit in the white phosphorus attacks on innocent women and children.

1059  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 23, 2018, 03:09:52 AM
Had a dream that the price was down to $1190.  Cry

I decided to go get drunk and the bar was crypto themed.

But still under construction.


This is Bitcoin right now.
1060  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: November 21, 2018, 05:57:33 PM
It's not theft if that money collected is reinvested to benefit the people of a nation. It is though, if there is corruption and those funds don't go where they have to go.

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